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Title: I made a post about trans issues on another forum,can you tell me if it soundsok
Post by: Jacqueline Herrer on June 07, 2014, 07:52:13 PM
I posted a new thread on a tech website that I frequent. Was hoping I could get another person to look at it real quick. I thought I did a good job at summing up trans issues, and I thanked them for reading my post. However I got ->-bleeped-<- from pretty much everyone, even the people who were kind of on my side. I don't know, this is why I don't really ever post anything online. I would like another pair of eyes though to see if I came off confrontational. If so I definitely need to change the way I present my argument, I try to put us in the best light possible.

https://teksyndicate.com/forum/politics/transgender-issues-thread/179658

Thanks
Title: Re: I made a post about trans issues on another forum,can you tell me if it soundsok
Post by: Ms Grace on June 07, 2014, 08:08:45 PM
Hi!

It reads fine to me, nice writing. It works as a good introduction to trans* issues and doesn't come off as heavy handed or condescending... to me.

As indicated by a number of comments, many cis people just don't get it... maybe they never will. Sometimes they lack the will, desire, imagination to put themselves in our shoes. That would be my first point, but I'd suggest that just laying stuff like that on a tech forum (presumably out of the blue?) will probably rub a number of people up the wrong way. They're there, I gather, to talk tech stuff, not gender rights, etc. So maybe they feel you are being didactic and condescending to them, even though that wasn't your intention.

People don't like stuff being rubbed in their noses (to them, that's the way it feels) - for example, meat eaters can find vegetarians talking about animal rights to be obnoxious and condescending. When people feel that stuff they don't want to think about is being shoved in their faces they can be snarky in return. Sometimes the better way to educate people is the eye dropper/drip feed method of responding to micro aggressions and false assumptions as they pop up rather than hoping to wash it all away with one well written piece.

Hope that helps. :)
Title: Re: I made a post about trans issues on another forum,can you tell me if it soundsok
Post by: Jessica Merriman on June 07, 2014, 08:09:22 PM
I didn't personally see anything wrong with how you presented the information.  :)
Title: Re: I made a post about trans issues on another forum,can you tell me if it soundsok
Post by: Jacqueline Herrer on June 07, 2014, 08:13:22 PM
Thanks, I worked on it for a long time. The forum is mainly for Tech stuff, but I posted it in the politics section because they usually have people debating a range of issues. They've had threads on gay rights before, that's why I figured I'd make a post. I'm going to take the thread down. It's good to know that I wasn't really coming off as condescending, and thanks for taking the time to read through my post. Definitely will try the drip method in the future.

Quote from: Ms Grace on June 07, 2014, 08:08:45 PM
Hi!

It reads fine to me, nice writing. It works as a good introduction to trans* issues and doesn't come off as heavy handed or condescending... to me.

As indicated by a number of comments, many cis people just don't get it... maybe they never will. Sometimes they lack the will, desire, imagination to put themselves in our shoes. That would be my first point, but I'd suggest that just laying stuff like that on a tech forum (presumably out of the blue?) will probably rub a number of people up the wrong way. They're there, I gather, to talk tech stuff, not gender rights, etc. So maybe they feel you are being didactic and condescending to them, even though that wasn't your intention.

People don't like stuff being rubbed in their noses (to them, that's the way it feels) - for example, meat eaters can find vegetarians talking about animal rights to be obnoxious and condescending. When people feel that stuff they don't want to think about is being shoved in their faces they can be snarky in return. Sometimes the better way to educate people is the eye dropper/drip feed method of responding to micro aggressions and false assumptions as they pop up rather than hoping to wash it all away with one well written piece.

Hope that helps. :)
Title: Re: I made a post about trans issues on another forum,can you tell me if it soundsok
Post by: Jacqueline Herrer on June 07, 2014, 08:15:08 PM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 07, 2014, 08:09:22 PM
I didn't personally see anything wrong with how you presented the information.  :)

Thanks, I think I need to stick to more inclusive websites.