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Title: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on June 23, 2014, 06:42:38 AM
Or did they at all?

I'm approaching 6 months on estradiol only, and though I've seen good breast growth my hips are pretty much still straight up straight down.  In the last couple of weeks I think I'm getting some deposits on the sides of the thighs below my pelvises and maybe a little on the front of the pelvis itself, but I might be imagining it.  Or not :D

How long did it take for your hips to fill out?  Does it start in small areas and join up?

I know we're all different, but I'd like to hear how it was for you.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on June 23, 2014, 06:55:30 AM
Im not sure...

A few days ago I was out with guy friends we were walking together and I was looking  at our shadows...
well we all had  the  same manly shoulder but their hips and stuff were like totally straight  and mine  were kinda curvy  I dont know how to explain it....I  dont know when this happened XD
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Ms Grace on June 23, 2014, 07:28:04 AM
I guess hips are possible, I have them...but I think they're mostly the result of my first ride on HRT 20 years ago. I was a lot younger then (24ish when I started) so it's possible I still had a little bit of skeletal growth left in me and two years of E gave me a bit of hip - dunno if that could even be possible. Certainly I've had slightly fattier/wider hips than most genetic males of similar weight even since and once I got back on HRT the shape quickly migrated there and I now have a gentle hourglass figure. I know that's unfortunately not the normal experience though.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on June 23, 2014, 07:58:46 AM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on June 23, 2014, 06:55:30 AM
Im not sure...

A few days ago I was out with guy friends we were walking together and I was looking  at our shadows...
well we all had  the  same manly shoulder but their hips and stuff were like totally straight  and mine  were kinda curvy  I dont know how to explain it....I  dont know when this happened XD

Love the image of that, FP :) I would love to notice something like someday. 

Quote from: Ms Grace on June 23, 2014, 07:28:04 AM
I guess hips are possible, I have them...but I think they're mostly the result of my first ride on HRT 20 years ago. I was a lot younger then (24ish when I started) so it's possible I still had a little bit of skeletal growth left in me and two years of E gave me a bit of hip - dunno if that could even be possible. Certainly I've had slightly fattier/wider hips than most genetic males of similar weight even since and once I got back on HRT the shape quickly migrated there and I now have a gentle hourglass figure. I know that's unfortunately not the normal experience though.

'Gentle hourglass figure'...what a delightful phrase :)
The common thread is the early start to HRT. I don't think I have much chance of skeletal growth at 45 :D
I can only hope that some fat goes on a bit in that area, and that I can lose some of this girth around the waist.

Anyone have any luck with hip pads?
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: KayXo on June 23, 2014, 09:48:48 AM
Hips might fill out after some time, as they did for me, but if you start E after puberty, chances are you still won't have that hourglass figure because your hip bone is not wide enough. But, even some ciswomen have quite narrow hips...
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: ZoeM on June 23, 2014, 10:30:47 AM
I ended up curvy (waist and hips both), and I first noticed it about six months in. I think my hips shifted, or were always wide, because now they stick out and form a large part of my curves.
(I'm definitely not complaining, mind :P)
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jenna Marie on June 23, 2014, 04:06:57 PM
Since "hips" in fashion are actually the upper thighs, I'm not claiming my bone structure changed at all when I say my hips started to fill in a little by about a year on HRT... and are now still gradually filling out at 4+ years. Who knows how long it'll take, but I like seeing curves (and increasing butt). :)
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: KayXo on June 23, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
Today, I wore a dress and did notice, to my surprise, that my body did have a pretty significant hourglass shape to it...more so since taking adequate doses of hormones for me. So, it is possible despite starting after puberty! It truly is. :) Now, I just need to lose a little weight, some cellulite and it'll be just perfect.  ;D
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Carrie Liz on June 23, 2014, 08:37:19 PM
From what all of my long post-transition friends have been saying, a feminine shape is basically the slowest thing to come in. It takes 4-5 years before it's more or less completely done, and keeps going even after that. It should really starts visibly beginning around 9ish months.

Bone structure won't change, obviously, but thigh fat can definitely make up for it.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: KayXo on June 23, 2014, 08:59:58 PM
I've been on hormones for more than 10 yrs but really, have noticed a difference since taking a more adequate dose, within months. It can happen quite quickly too, it depends.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: antonia on June 23, 2014, 11:03:06 PM
I think I'll throw in a second question to the same effect, do the sides of your torso beneath your ribcage retreat inwards?

In my case my hips are already plenty wide and wider than my shoulders but I'm almost as wide above my hips as below, it's soft tissue but I'm not sure if HRT will affect that area at all?

Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: KayXo on June 24, 2014, 02:59:29 PM
I do find my waist to be narrower than my hip area, well obviously...otherwise, I wouldn't be noticing the hourglass shape AND pre-menopausal women tend to accumulate much less fat in that area compared to other areas. 
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Dani on June 24, 2014, 05:42:14 PM
Joan,

I have been on Finasteride and Estradiol for less than a year. I was, also, grossly overweight. I was 340 pounds and now, one year later, I am 267 pounds. As I lost the weight, my waist went down, the chest went down, but the breasts and the hips increased. I now measure 47-40-47. My under breast chest is 41 inches.  I am 6 feet tall and shrinking. I used to be 6'1.5".

Finasteride and weight loss helped me more than anything else. Hips are basically muscle and fat. Depending on your age, you should not expect much change in your pelvic bone. The only way to get any curves at all is to build the gluteal muscle and eat a proper amount of good fat.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: calicarly on June 24, 2014, 06:48:41 PM
I would say my hips filled up from 6 months to a year into it...
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Misato on June 24, 2014, 07:57:03 PM
I was over a year on HRT before there was a measurable difference in my hips.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: PurpleCrown on June 24, 2014, 09:44:00 PM
I already had a bit of a hip shape pre-HRT because of my muscles, that were trained from cycling a lot. Didn't notice much change myself, but after 8-9 months others started to saying I've got some hips going on. Also wearing skinny jean help showing them. My waist is still getting smaller.

PS: Joan's avatar got me hungry for pizza
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on June 25, 2014, 04:57:58 AM
Thank you all for sharing your experiences. I guess if they're going to come at all, the hips come later on, and knowing that at least gives me some hope :)

I've started losing weight again lately after a six month period when nothing I could do would help at all, and I do try my best to eat healthily and exercise.

I'm now 187cm tall (6'2"), 80kg (176lbs) and I measure 104-78-97cm (41-31-38"). My band size is 88cm (35").  My hips are much narrower than my shoulders, and I would really like that to even out even a bit.  The sight of that difference can really get me down sometimes.  I guess it will be time to measure again around Christmas :D
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on June 25, 2014, 04:59:00 AM
Quote from: PurpleCrown on June 24, 2014, 09:44:00 PM

PS: Joan's avatar got me hungry for pizza

I love pizza!! I've been having cravings for it all week  :o
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jenna Marie on June 25, 2014, 07:15:34 AM
Don't forget that your shoulders can also get narrower. :) I started off at like 18" shoulders and now it's around 14". My hips are actually around the same width as my shoulders these days, but I don't think it was primarily hip growth that caused that!

(And I definitely have more of a waist now, though I'm still pretty plump. If I can't be skinny, I'll settle for curvy.)
Title: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: ashley_thomas on June 25, 2014, 08:00:47 AM

Quote from: Joan on June 25, 2014, 04:59:00 AM
I love pizza!! I've been having cravings for it all week  :o

Me too!! Holding off until Friday!
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on June 26, 2014, 04:14:27 AM
Quote from: Jenna Marie on June 25, 2014, 07:15:34 AM
Don't forget that your shoulders can also get narrower. :) I started off at like 18" shoulders and now it's around 14". My hips are actually around the same width as my shoulders these days, but I don't think it was primarily hip growth that caused that!

(And I definitely have more of a waist now, though I'm still pretty plump. If I can't be skinny, I'll settle for curvy.)

Thank you that.

Yes, it's the shoulders that get me down and I want the hips to balance things up.  Hopefully a bit of hip growth and a bit of muscle loss will get me closer.  Where do you measure for the shoulder measurement?

Quote from: ashley_thomas on June 25, 2014, 08:00:47 AM
Me too!! Holding off until Friday!

I'm holding out till Monday for this little Italian place I know where I'm going on business :)
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Sammy on June 26, 2014, 04:19:57 AM
My hips were a wee bit wider than is considered normal, but not wide enough to be that noticeable. So, as soon as I started eating more, apparently it all went down into hips... or butt. Butt kinda spurted out first and then hips followed - I can totally relate to what Grace said about "gentle hourglass" but I really need to loose about 1 kilo of male fat deposits around my waistline to make it more pronounced. I dunno if that is common experience or not, but I am not complaining (maybe that is to compensate for still quite tiny bewbs, lol).
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on June 26, 2014, 04:26:14 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 26, 2014, 04:19:57 AM
My hips were a wee bit wider than is considered normal, but not wide enough to be that noticeable. So, as soon as I started eating more, apparently it all went down into hips... or butt. Butt kinda spurted out first and then hips followed - I can totally relate to what Grace said about "gentle hourglass" but I really need to loose about 1 kilo of male fat deposits around my waistline to make it more pronounced. I dunno if that is common experience or not, but I am not complaining (maybe that is to compensate for still quite tiny bewbs, lol).

Thanks Emily :)

My butt has been doing the same, at the back on top and underneath, so I hope my hips catch up like yours did.  I'd much rather have feminine hips than large boobs.  I've always been envious of female hips.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Sammy on June 26, 2014, 04:38:10 AM
Quote from: Joan on June 26, 2014, 04:26:14 AM
Thanks Emily :)

My butt has been doing the same, at the back on top and underneath, so I hope my hips catch up like yours did.  I'd much rather have feminine hips than large boobs.  I've always been envious of female hips.

Totally so :). If one wants bigger bewbs... there is BA surgery for that. But with hips it all gets much more complicated :).
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: FrancisAnn on June 26, 2014, 04:56:43 AM
It sure would be nice. I'm a little fuller but not much. 9 months full time HRT plus lots of hrt earlier in life. Breasts are growing nicely, body hair is reducing nicely............. however my hips are going nowhere it seems.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jennygirl on June 26, 2014, 05:50:47 AM
Noticed a big bump recently, probably starting at around 16 months and still going. Probably also helps that I've gained a bit of weight. It's just crazy how much more of it now goes to my upper outer thighs. The difference when sitting or laying flat on the couch and such is kind of crazy to me at this very moment (looking down to a hip that is truly squashing outwards).

I have a small bit of tummy fat now, too, where I used to gain all of my weight. But now my legs look extremely soft, absolutely zero indentations or angular appearance. Thank you E gods!

Still thinking I might do a fat transfer to hips somewhere down the line, but there is seemingly a ton of research going on with that right now... So I am holding off for a bit and waiting until they figure out a way to not have the fat reabsorb. There have been some great advancements using stem cells, but it is still considered experimental and only for breasts. They have however managed to cut the resorption rate down to I think about 20 percent... I'd have to look it up again to be sure and I didn't have access to the full article. All I know is it seems promising to me, and I'm happy to wait for something better; I've heard after T factories are removed it is possible to feminize even further... so I want to give that as much of a chance as well.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: eggy_nog on June 26, 2014, 06:14:26 AM
Can you send me the link of the article? Sounds interesting! :)
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on June 26, 2014, 06:25:20 AM
Quote from: FrancisAnn on June 26, 2014, 04:56:43 AM
It sure would be nice. I'm a little fuller but not much. 9 months full time HRT plus lots of hrt earlier in life. Breasts are growing nicely, body hair is reducing nicely............. however my hips are going nowhere it seems.

That sounds like my experience so far.  We have to live in hope :)

And Jenny, thank you, that sure does sound interesting.  Firstly that the hip development came after so much time on HRT, and secondly about the research.  I'd like to read the paper too if you have a link.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jenna Marie on June 26, 2014, 06:19:14 PM
Joan : Do you know, I have no idea how the shoulder measurement worked. :) My wife's the precise one in the family; she researched it and measured me, a few months ago.
Title: Re: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: xponentialshift on June 26, 2014, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: Jennygirl on June 26, 2014, 05:50:47 AM
Noticed a big bump recently, probably starting at around 16 months and still going. Probably also helps that I've gained a bit of weight. It's just crazy how much more of it now goes to my upper outer thighs. The difference when sitting or laying flat on the couch and such is kind of crazy to me at this very moment (looking down to a hip that is truly squashing outwards).

I have a small bit of tummy fat now, too, where I used to gain all of my weight. But now my legs look extremely soft, absolutely zero indentations or angular appearance. Thank you E gods!

Still thinking I might do a fat transfer to hips somewhere down the line, but there is seemingly a ton of research going on with that right now... So I am holding off for a bit and waiting until they figure out a way to not have the fat reabsorb. There have been some great advancements using stem cells, but it is still considered experimental and only for breasts. They have however managed to cut the resorption rate down to I think about 20 percent... I'd have to look it up again to be sure and I didn't have access to the full article. All I know is it seems promising to me, and I'm happy to wait for something better; I've heard after T factories are removed it is possible to feminize even further... so I want to give that as much of a chance as well.
Are you talking about the articles on the CAL (cell assisted lipotransfer) method? I was looking at that as an option for me in the future if it turns out that I need it. One thing I read read was that it doesn't work in large quantities. (Usually no more than 1-2 cup sizes for a BA, and I didn't find anything on hips)
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Hikari on June 26, 2014, 07:06:59 PM
4 almost 5 months here, and while I have seen amazing breast development, very little on my hips except tiny amounts of fat. We shall see how long it takes, I have a good feeling about hips.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on June 26, 2014, 09:15:34 PM
Quote from: Jenna Marie on June 26, 2014, 06:19:14 PM
Joan : Do you know, I have no idea how the shoulder measurement worked. :) My wife's the precise one in the family; she researched it and measured me, a few months ago.

Sorry Jenna, I just realised I used the wrong name. I feel really bad about that :(

If only I could lose a bit of that muscle at the tops of my arms. At least I lost another lb this week :)
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on June 26, 2014, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: Hikari on June 26, 2014, 07:06:59 PM
4 almost 5 months here, and while I have seen amazing breast development, very little on my hips except tiny amounts of fat. We shall see how long it takes, I have a good feeling about hips.

This seems to be a common thread. Initial breast development with the hips - if they do develop - lagging far behind. I wonder if it's the same for girls going through puberty?
Title: Re: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jennygirl on June 26, 2014, 11:52:43 PM
Quote from: xponentialshift on June 26, 2014, 07:05:37 PM
Are you talking about the articles on the CAL (cell assisted lipotransfer) method? I was looking at that as an option for me in the future if it turns out that I need it. One thing I read read was that it doesn't work in large quantities. (Usually no more than 1-2 cup sizes for a BA, and I didn't find anything on hips)

Yeah it was something like that. All I could read was the summary, but there were several articles with similar studies.

I'm extremely interested in it! So if you have any info please do share :)
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Stephanie2 on June 27, 2014, 01:29:48 AM
I envy many of you who have gotten great hips and thin waist. The breasts are one thing, but it would be nice to have the whole package. Being overweight, the "love handles" hide much of the shape, if there is any at all. Hoping to reduce so that I will see the real shape.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: sad panda on June 27, 2014, 01:45:59 AM
I have big hips but it's not fat, it's bone, there's like hip dips there, they drive me crazy tbh :-\ my hips haven't really ever changed though no matter what hormones I have
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jennygirl on June 27, 2014, 04:31:20 AM
I do have to say that I was skeptical at first of how much it would change my lower body, thinking that some kind of surgery would be the only way. I still have some skepticism that HRT will be enough to reach my goals without spending my life in a gym- I guess I am just not a gym type of person? Anyway...

After 18 months of HRT, I have yoyo'd between very skinny and +15lbs TWICE now in my transition. I started very skinny & moderately muscular. The first time I gained 15lbs during month 5-6- it all seemed to go to my abdomen (or exactly where it used to). So I wasn't too happy with that! Then, I lost all the weight during months 9-12 and slowly kept losing it through month 14.. getting down to my lowest weight in 3 years. It did seem like some of the thigh fat stayed, but not much. This was concurrent with when I had FFS.

Then recently (around month 16-current) my appetite increased, and I listened... So, I've yoyo'd back up to +13. This time though, MUCH more of it has gone to my legs, butt, and hips. I mean I can hardly believe it. Honestly sometimes it's hard for me to stop touching myself :o :angel: My legs squash out around the sides and hips when I sit now, it is a VERY noticeable difference while sitting.

But I think that some kind of procedure will be in my cards someday, hopefully with an improved way of doing fat transfer.. I don't have much fat to work with, and I wanna make it count instead of just reabsorb :P I'll be first in line if they figure out how to use stem cell fat transfers for hips. Tbh, for me it is almost as (if not more) important than SRS- but I'm not letting it hold me up waiting around.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: sad panda on June 27, 2014, 06:23:26 AM
Quote from: Jennygirl on June 27, 2014, 04:31:20 AM
I do have to say that I was skeptical at first of how much it would change my lower body, thinking that some kind of surgery would be the only way. I still have some skepticism that HRT will be enough to reach my goals without spending my life in a gym- I guess I am just not a gym type of person? Anyway...

After 18 months of HRT, I have yoyo'd between very skinny and +15lbs TWICE now in my transition. I started very skinny & moderately muscular. The first time I gained 15lbs during month 5-6- it all seemed to go to my abdomen (or exactly where it used to). So I wasn't too happy with that! Then, I lost all the weight during months 9-12 and slowly kept losing it through month 14.. getting down to my lowest weight in 3 years. It did seem like some of the thigh fat stayed, but not much. This was concurrent with when I had FFS.

Then recently (around month 16-current) my appetite increased, and I listened... So, I've yoyo'd back up to +13. This time though, MUCH more of it has gone to my legs, butt, and hips. I mean I can hardly believe it. Honestly sometimes it's hard for me to stop touching myself :o :angel: My legs squash out around the sides and hips when I sit now, it is a VERY noticeable difference while sitting.

But I think that some kind of procedure will be in my cards someday, hopefully with an improved way of doing fat transfer.. I don't have much fat to work with, and I wanna make it count instead of just reabsorb :P I'll be first in line if they figure out how to use stem cell fat transfers for hips. Tbh, for me it is almost as (if not more) important than SRS- but I'm not letting it hold me up waiting around.

Wow, that's great!  :D I guess it varies a lot. I spent a year on a bad dose of HRT and my body stayed the same, then I started sublingual and gained like 20 lbs in probably only half a year. It's been a really emotional change for me because it mostly just went to my waist and belly. And made my legs stockier, but there's still this line under my belly where I simply don't store any fat. It was like  a more exaggerated version of this (http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6pusp6BpK1r6ofspo1_500.jpg) I just liked my figure sooo much better before HRT, when I was thin. But, on the plus side it made me finally able to appreciate that I had mostly a great figure before, which up until now I never believed. Now, I am determined to get thin again!  :laugh: So guess that's a 2nd time for me too.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Julia-Madrid on June 27, 2014, 09:59:03 AM
Ooooh, I am envious.  I've always been small and skinny so I am really not expecting hips to arrive.  I fix those deficiencies with clothing for squarish or inverted triangle bodies. 

Here's a really good site for dressing according to your body shape and colouring, by the way: 

http://www.thechicfashionista.com/
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jill F on June 27, 2014, 01:11:11 PM
My wife has found that there is a bit more to grab down there over the last month or so.

Jan '13 to July '13 -  Low dose E and finasteride
July '13 - May '14 - Increased E, finasteride and dutasteride
May '14 - present - E and dutasteride only.

Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jenna Marie on June 27, 2014, 02:00:01 PM
Joan : No worries on the name, I didn't even notice. :)

I can say that of all the trans friends I have, they all say the same thing - hips took a LOT longer to show up. Maybe the body prioritizes breasts first?
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jennygirl on June 28, 2014, 05:54:47 PM
My butt and hips... they are getting SO big.

I better watch it! I just ate a huge brownie today and I know where that is going ;)
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: kira21 ♡♡♡ on June 28, 2014, 07:47:13 PM
It took about 5 months and then, one day I looked in the mirror and thought 'holy moly where did that waist come from?' It just sneaked up on me. Its continued to shrink further. I have hips too. which I would say came in gradually and started looking 'hippy' maybe about 9 months in and now look quite natural. TBH I would like more, but I have a feminine body shape now, so when I wear tight clothes, which is pretty much all the time, it is a big plus. I am grateful. I wish I could tuck my lower ribs in just a smidge, which I will do with some tight-lacing when I have the time to commit to it, but it's not a big problem.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: ana1111 on June 28, 2014, 08:52:14 PM
I think ive always been a bit "hippy" because ive been on hrt and I already have hips ;D still no boobs though :(
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Julia-Madrid on June 29, 2014, 02:33:59 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 26, 2014, 04:38:10 AM
Totally so :). If one wants bigger bewbs... there is BA surgery for that. But with hips it all gets much more complicated :).

Hmmmm, my plastic surgeon (darling, don't I sound soooo much like a cosmopolitan princess?  :D) has offered to move tummy fat to hips and butt.  Since I've only been on HRT for 3 months I think I shall wait a bit, quite a bit.  But does anyone know about such procedures and how good they are?

Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Lady_Oracle on June 29, 2014, 02:59:22 AM
my hips have been steadily getting bigger. My hip measurement is at 40" and noticed some new stretch marks on my thighs and butt. Oh well, can't say it bothers me too much at this point since I absolutely love my curves. I think my waist is still at 29" or 30" idk..

But yeah gaining fat in that area has been steady. I've gained a few more lbs as of late so I think I'm at 144 from starting at 120 at the beginning of hrt. That's the course of over 2 years and 3 months on hrt.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Nicolette on June 29, 2014, 06:31:12 AM
Quote from: Julia-Madrid on June 29, 2014, 02:33:59 AM
Hmmmm, my plastic surgeon (darling, don't I sound soooo much like a cosmopolitan princess?  :D) has offered to move tummy fat to hips and butt.  Since I've only been on HRT for 3 months I think I shall wait a bit, quite a bit.  But does anyone know about such procedures and how good they are?

It depends on how many millilitres of fat you have to move. Fat removed is removed long-term. Fat added is much less so. Much of it tends to be reabsorbed, so that's why you need to overcompensate for that. Putting on weight in great amounts will trigger new fat cells to develop in the areas where fat was removed. If you're realistic about these limitations you won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Julia-Madrid on June 29, 2014, 11:36:12 AM
Thanks Nicolette!
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on June 29, 2014, 12:05:15 PM
Jenny

Good for you! :D Good reason for a few more brownies too ;)

I don't know whether willing it makes it so, but I'm sure I've got more on my hips than when I started this topic... :D
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: AnnaCannibal on July 01, 2014, 04:18:05 PM
Quote from: Jenna Marie on June 25, 2014, 07:15:34 AM
Don't forget that your shoulders can also get narrower. :) I started off at like 18" shoulders and now it's around 14". My hips are actually around the same width as my shoulders these days, but I don't think it was primarily hip growth that caused that!

(And I definitely have more of a waist now, though I'm still pretty plump. If I can't be skinny, I'll settle for curvy.)

Whoah!  Is this true?  Our shoulders can get narrower?!  How is this possible?  Muscle reduction?
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: KayXo on July 01, 2014, 06:10:36 PM
Yes, muscle reduction over time. :)
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Hikari on July 01, 2014, 10:35:26 PM
If you lift your arm horizontal with the ground and feel your deltoids and the gradually lower your arm to your side you will be amazed at just how big the muscle really is. Because it is muscle though over time on HRT it can get smaller. I had never thought just how big of an impact it would make till I started really looking at some before and after pics.

I think people's bodies are much more soft tissue than they think.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Stephanie2 on July 01, 2014, 11:45:39 PM
This is cool information to know about the human body on hormones. Smaller shoulders, larger hips, larger breast. Wow, the best of everything for our femininity!
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: AnnaCannibal on July 02, 2014, 09:53:58 AM
Quote from: Stephanie2 on July 01, 2014, 11:45:39 PM
This is cool information to know about the human body on hormones. Smaller shoulders, larger hips, larger breast. Wow, the best of everything for our femininity!

If I'm not mistaken though, the muscle reduction is typically one of the last noticeable changes to take place.  Like years.  Of course, if Susans has taught me one thing, its that everybody is different and it wouldn't surprise me if some ladies have noticed it a lot sooner.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: trans064134 on July 03, 2014, 04:11:24 PM
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on July 02, 2014, 09:53:58 AM
If I'm not mistaken though, the muscle reduction is typically one of the last noticeable changes to take place.  Like years.  Of course, if Susans has taught me one thing, its that everybody is different and it wouldn't surprise me if some ladies have noticed it a lot sooner.
I dont know if it's about age but I really noticed muscle reduction early(like 4 months in). I was very skinny and had little muscle to begin with. But the first thing I noticed were muscles on shoulder blades. When I raised my arms pre-hrt my shoulder blades really had sticked out like I was a swimmer, making my upper body look large. I was shocked when I saw these muscles literally gone!

As for hips in one year of hrt I gained 10 kilos and still gaining probably. Hips do stick out but sadly tummy gets plump too :/
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jenna Marie on July 03, 2014, 04:58:42 PM
Yeah, I don't remember exactly when I noticed the shoulders shrinking... but it was definitely within the first year sometime.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Sarah S on July 03, 2014, 06:53:05 PM
My pelvis has gotten wider form the HRT I'm intersex an have a female pelvis I have been on HRT for a over a year now.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Teela Renee on July 04, 2014, 08:40:34 AM
mine had some fat deposit along them on the way. But me and skittlez recently noticed my hip bone actually expanded alittle bit. Couldnt tell ya when tho. Im over a year into HRT so I stopped payin attention to the changes really. they are to gradual for me to notice, tho skiddlez's catches them all the time.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: KayXo on July 04, 2014, 09:31:30 AM
Skittlez?
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: galaxy on July 06, 2014, 09:37:00 AM
Ive done some photos during my transition and the result is no changing of my hips or something like that. I got some more weight in the last year, about 4 kilograms - so it gone to the belly only and it just looks more masculine now than before my HRT. Ive now idea why do you all have such results and ive these damend "men-problems". Thats really frustrating for me. I always had good blood levels and nothing happens. My body really looks very masculine after my 17 month HRT.  :'(
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Stephanie2 on July 06, 2014, 03:54:08 PM
Don't feel bad, Galaxy, as I can't even tell if I have any feminine hips at all with my weight gain. Everything went to the belly on me, too, except for the boobs, which is the only nice thing, at least!
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: JessikaBlackMage on July 06, 2014, 04:12:01 PM
I always had wide hips but it was not until I got on Finestaride to really block out all the testosterone it really allowed the estrogen to really redistribute the fat and put it in the places where I want it to be.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: BunnyBee on July 06, 2014, 04:14:30 PM
Like maybe the third or fourth year :O.  It took a long time for that to happen for me.  Sometimes it feels like HRT has done nothing at all for me in general, but then I see older pictures and I'm like, ok something did happen I guess.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: KayXo on July 06, 2014, 07:09:29 PM
Quote from: JessikaBlackMage on July 06, 2014, 04:12:01 PM
I always had wide hips but it was not until I got on Finestaride to really block out all the testosterone it really allowed the estrogen to really redistribute the fat and put it in the places where I want it to be.

Finasteride does not appear to block or affect testosterone levels. Rather, it seems to reduce its conversion to DHT through inhibition of 5 alpha reductase.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on July 28, 2014, 08:11:54 PM
Ok, it's been a while since I posted this topic and today I split a pair of work trousers. My trousers have been feeling a bit tight lately.

Progress? :D
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: ssneha23 on July 29, 2014, 09:04:16 PM
I cant see much hips happening for me . but all my jeans are so tight at the upper thighs and bum that I have to literally jump to get them over.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: TaoRaven on July 30, 2014, 01:11:31 AM
Never. Seriously considering implants.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: xponentialshift on July 30, 2014, 01:26:02 AM
I'm at 2 months and just started to notice some fat on my hips. (Mostly just by feel, haven't compared pictures yet)

On a similar note, for the past 2-3 weeks I've had an odd soreness in my lower back (where the spine meets the hip/pelvi bone... Basically where it feels like I have  2" x4" flat plate of bone). It doesn't feel like typical lower back pain. I can't "pop" my spine there like normal, and yoga doesn't fix it. Most of the days I forget its there, but occasionally it's a minor annoyance. I am optimistic and thing it may be my hips widening. I'll see what my doctor says on Friday.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on July 30, 2014, 02:04:43 AM
On reflection I think I probably just ate too much pizza ;)
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Lady_Oracle on July 30, 2014, 02:22:30 AM
I'm curious to see if my hips get any bigger here in the next year since I just started injections three weeks ago. I had pretty big gains in the past 2 years just being on pills so I'm excited to see if I get anymore changes in that area.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Bookworm on July 31, 2014, 11:10:27 PM
I hope I start hrt in time to see some real hip growth because I am still young.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jennygirl on August 13, 2014, 01:46:26 PM
Lately been gaining some weight on purpose and barely any of it goes to my belly. My butt and thighs are very noticeably growing. I have this entire pad of flesh that is forming on my hip that I can grab- where I used to only be able to do that with the tummy area
Title: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Eva Marie on August 13, 2014, 02:33:47 PM
I'm at about 11 months on full strength HRT and about 6 months into progesterone and just within the last few weeks I've noticed my pants are getting tighter. I've always had a nice butt and there is more of it now. My boy jeans just don't fit right now, and when I'm wearing them (not for much longer!) I can see a hip curve on the outside that is new. My upper thighs have gotten larger too.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jill F on August 13, 2014, 03:40:23 PM
The last couple of weeks have been amazing.   Once the balls got kicked to the curb, things are really starting to take shape.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Joan on August 13, 2014, 04:48:49 PM
Glad to hear things are coming along for you all nicely, ladies :)

7 months here now, and my upper things are getting a bit bigger, and I'm getting little pads of fat growing too. I still look pretty hip lite in a tight skirt but things slowly moving forward.

I had a full body massage at a friend's spa last weekend (romomatic oils - lovely!) and she said it's very noticeably different from the last time I went two months ago. I'm getting something of a waist too ;)
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Ruth Ruthless on August 13, 2014, 08:54:10 PM
7 months on hrt. Tiny hip growth. Small breast growth. Decided to give up trying to get curves by plumping up since it goes first to my belly before touching my hips and breast. I like my skinny curves at the waist and how athletic I feel on a low fat mainly whole plant foods high carb vegan diet. Being light and athletic has helped me feel emotionally much better and less focused on my dysphoria and less vulnerable to instances of transphobia and misgendering. So I'm going with what makes me feel better. Hopefully eventually some fat will somehow reach my face but I get really depressed when I eat high fat so not going to do that or to be exact I got my high fat treats down to one course per week. Waistline is gradually coming down and looking more feminine without large hips.
Title: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: ashley_thomas on August 15, 2014, 08:34:26 AM
My waist has retreated and my rear has gotten bigger. I'm on LD and going my own way under dr supervision so it's not apples to apples but I have a half inch on my hips (mostly rear I think) in 8 months of meds (stepped up over that time), and 1 inch decrease in my waist mostly on the sides.  It's enough to show some curves with the right A line skirt, skinny jeans or properly fitted shirt. I won't be mistaken for a curvaceous bombshell but  it does give some feminine form even making boy clothes (still part time) look slightly odd.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Jennygirl on August 15, 2014, 12:36:11 PM
Just weighed myself today and I'm up to my highest weight since transitioning (142 @ 5'8"). In February, I was 125.

I am amazed at how differently the weight is distributing now at 20 months instead of the last time I tried this at 7 months. A year ago (shortly after I had VFS) I came back from Seoul at the same weight of 142, except it was all in my belly. This time however, it's barely any belly at all.. My friends keep telling me how big my butt is getting, I take it as a compliment ;)

Looking at myself in a mirror, it's a whole other ballgame now. I think for the first time I'm going to have to buy new pants.

For anyone upset with their fat distribution and less than a year on HRT, don't be so hard on yourself. I have been on a megadose of pellet implants for 20 months and it is just now really starting to distribute in a new pattern. This takes time!
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: GingerMaxim on October 01, 2014, 03:58:09 AM
I can't wait till my hips and butt start to fill out.

I am hoping to get some hot hips and some junk in my trunk.

There is a woman on a show I watch that has gorgeous hips and I would love to have hips like hers.

OMG!!! I can't wait.

Ginger
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Ruth Ruthless on October 01, 2014, 04:01:37 AM
I'm nine months in and the only way my butt and hips fill out is if my belly fills out twice as much so for now I'm keeping my body fat low.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Hayley on October 01, 2014, 05:14:12 AM
I am at 14 months hrt and I finally feel like I have some hip. I've been taking photos of my torso every other month since starting hrt and the difference between day one and today are just unexpected. Considering I didn't feel like much changed looking at myself in the mirror. I have an album with day one, month 10 and 14 in it. I should add some others to it to fill in the gaps. I would share it but it is NSFW and I believe that is against the rules here.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: Apples Mk.II on October 01, 2014, 05:28:32 AM
17 months, nothing There. My thighs somewhat rounded, but at the hip is just hipbone protruding and a depression between the hip bone and the head of the femur.

Pretty much I have nearly no fat redistribution, MY face is also the worst point followed by hips and I still accumulate in the belly.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: BreezyB on October 01, 2014, 07:57:57 AM
3 months in and I'm noticing some curves but it doesn't feel like fat, definetly not bone either. But definetly things a bit more 'hippy' down there. Just needing it to fill out a little more so hoping it doesn't disapear on me. I was fairly slim prior to HRT so that may be a factor, how much male fat is around there to start with
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: KayXo on October 01, 2014, 11:54:15 AM
Definitely filling out much more in butt area since increasing estrogen and adding progesterone. These have helped A LOT! But, some increased belly fat too :( And no change in hips. Some filling out in breast and face.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: FrancisAnn on October 02, 2014, 09:58:31 AM
I've had some nice breast growth, less body hair........however so far I do not see much improvement in my hipps or butt. Still way to flat to look nice & feminine in pants.
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: GingerMaxim on October 07, 2014, 04:08:26 AM
I'm hoping for some hips, thigh growth. I actually want some hips to give me some shape.
I want also to have some junk in my trunk. I think if I could get some extra touche and some great larger hips.
Oh my...
Title: Re: When did your hips start to fill out?
Post by: FrancisAnn on October 07, 2014, 06:30:27 AM
Quote from: Joan on June 23, 2014, 07:58:46 AM
Love the image of that, FP :) I would love to notice something like someday. 

'Gentle hourglass figure'...what a delightful phrase :)
The common thread is the early start to HRT. I don't think I have much chance of skeletal growth at 45 :D
I can only hope that some fat goes on a bit in that area, and that I can lose some of this girth around the waist.

Anyone have any luck with hip pads?
I hate to admit it however since my butt is also way to flat I use a 4 padded girdle if I want some shape. Victoria Secret, 4 pad girdle, 2 on the sides & 2 on the butt area. HRT has changed a lot for me however my butt seems as flat as ever, Yuck. Maybe soon a little shape.