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Sorry this goes on for quite a bit, belive it or not this is a majorly condensed account of what happened

Whilst returning from a meeting today I had a bit of an incident, I don't frighten easily & these idiots had a bit of a shock that their bully boy tactics failed, hopefully they'll think twice next time.

The group consisted of 4 men & 2 women (the women stayed out of the altercation which in my book is as bad as joining in). As I was walking down the pavement towards the group one of the men made a big act of moving out of my way as if I carried the bubonic plague, as I walked past he sneered "F******* ->-bleeped-<-" so I told him he should keep such opinions to himself (I was NOT polite), he threatened to smash my face in & spat in my face (grubby little urchin).
My immediate response was to reach for my phone & start dialing 999, before I was put through to the police one of his friends struck me in the back of my head sending me sprawling to the ground, my phone skittered into the gutter & several pairs of feet tried to stamp on my phone to smash it.

Before I go further in this tale i'd like to advise people that my next step is not recommended for most people, I only did it because i've been trained in Tai Kwon Do & Ninjitsu by some people I knew years ago, unfortunately they never taught me how to have eyes in the back of my head hence someone getting a shot in.

The group started to walk away laughing until they realised that I was following them, the main antagonist threatened to smash my face in (again) so I pretended not to hear it, when the guilable fool repeated his threat I thrust my phone in his face so the police now have a recording of his threat.
At this point the group started to run, I gave the police a running commentary of every side street they ran down, the chase went on for about 20 min. From time to time they lost me but I know every inch of this part of town so they didn't elude me for long, the group then split up.
I followed the 2 women & 2 of the men (the women refused to run), then one of the more aggresive men split off, a few minutes later the final man ran for it & unfortunately I lost track of him less than a minute before the police arrived.

The police said I was probably fitter than most of their officers for keeping the chase up for so long, they said they struggled to keep up with my foot chase in their car, lol.

My neck, back & right wrist hurt like crazy now but i'm a tough battle axe, i'll bounce back.

Please learn from this incident, get self defence training & if you are faced with a hate crime then BEFORE phoning the police use your phone to take a picture (if safe), it's quite hard to remember simple things such as the perpetrators clothes once the adrenaline wears off.

Stay safe out there people

Sorry you had to go through this Jayne, people can be such a-holes. I hope you're OK, and that these knuckle-draggers will think twice before hassling a trans woman again.

I seem to recall that a very wise woman once told me she'd noticed that 4 is the magic number for groups of men who resort to violence. She said that 3 guys will usually talk each other out of it, and 5 guys will probably not bother. But 4 guys (especially with a couple of women to impress) will most likely kick off.

Who was that wise woman again? Oh yeah, it was you.

I hope they're bricking it, knowing the cops might be looking for them.

That sucks that you had to go through that. People suck. But I applaud you for standing your ground. Right on! :eusa_clap:

Actually, that just reminded of an incident that happened last summer. I was walking over to my aunt & uncle's house and as I was passing the Taco Bell on the corner of a main artery through town, this blonde haired, skinny, preppie douchebag actually tried to rob me. He walks up to me and gets in my face and said "Give me your money." I looked at him and laughed and said: "F--k you, man". I shoved him aside and went on my way, checking behind me to make sure that he wasn't following me. There were two other guys sitting on bicycles that were identical to the little prick, so that was the main reason why I did what I did. If it had been he and I, I would have beat him until he was black, blue and bloody. But I wasn't about to test my luck in a 3 on 1 fight. Even though I fought many mismatched fights as a kid, I didn't want to risk it that day. The ironic thing is that I had a cellphone on me and I should have called the cops on the little bastard, but I had just got it, so I wasn't in the habit of using it yet.

Right on for being a fighter but at the same time, be careful out there!  I don't want you to get hurt.

I'm sorry you had to experience that sort of treatment Jeyne it just shows how uneducated and unintelligent these ppl are stay safe xx

I'm glad you got through that safely. And that's one more group of people who hopefully now understand that it's not okay to target transpeople for abuse.

Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on June 24, 2014, 02:50:34 PM
Right on for being a fighter but at the same time, be careful out there!  I don't want you to get hurt.

As I was walking home from a friends house (with the big dog) I was considering what i'd typed here & was going to edit it, as people have commented i'll leave it as it untouched & add this:

This should be taken as a cautionary tale, I was outnumbered & whilst dealing with the antagonist I had 5 people behind me, rather than face this man I should have put my back to the railings to keep it covered.
I didn't do this because I was bullied at school until 15 when I stood up to them, since that day i've been hardwired to never back down to bullying & that includes never taking a step back (I know it's silly).

I was on the floor for maybe 10-20 seconds, fortunately the target of their feet was my phone, had it been me then I could either be in hospital right now or going cold on a slab, sobering thought.

Whilst we have the right to tell these knuckle dragging idiots what we think of their abuse we should always carefuly assess the situation, from now on i'll go through a quick checklist in my head.
How Many?
How Public?
How Drunk? (me & them)
Time of Day

If it looks like things are going pear shaped quickly whip out my phone & BEFORE phoning the police take a quick picture of the offender, this increases the chance of someone getting caught.

Quote from: Felix on June 24, 2014, 03:53:07 PM
I'm glad you got through that safely. And that's one more group of people who hopefully now understand that it's not okay to target transpeople for abuse.

The irony is that I was returning from an LGBT meeting, one of the topics covered was Hate crimes. I made the coppers chuckle when I told them that.

Quote from: FTMDiaries on June 24, 2014, 02:31:31 PM

I seem to recall that a very wise woman once told me she'd noticed that 4 is the magic number for groups of men who resort to violence. She said that 3 guys will usually talk each other out of it, and 5 guys will probably not bother. But 4 guys (especially with a couple of women to impress) will most likely kick off.

Who was that wise woman again? Oh yeah, it was you.

I hope they're bricking it, knowing the cops might be looking for them.

You got the first bit of the quote right about 4 guys but you mixed up the other two, i've updated my old line & it now reads

3 guys & they'll probably not have enough balls between them
4 guys & they've got just enough balls
5 guys & they've got enough balls but the law of averages means one is a nice guy who'll tell his mates they're out of line
Throw in a woman to impress & throw away the previous rules ;D

I doubt they're bricking it due to their obviously low I.Q's but hopefully next time they see a transperson they'll decide to stay quiet because it's not worth the hassle of being an (guess the next word).

Glad you're OK,there's some proper wankers oiut there

All of this worries me because I am not tough, I own a pistol and concealed carry is legal here, but I really have doubts to if I have the guts to use it, or deal with the consequences if I do, and it could be used against me too....All of these things make me just really worried about the potential for violence as there just doesn't seem to be any good result.

Do you carry the gun in your purse?

Even though I don't like guns much I've been considering to get a small caliber pistol and have been thinking about how I would carry it

Glad you're alright Jayne! I never have such problems, probably because I ain't purty and can be pretty intimidating. In any event the best means of self defense is a swift kick in the nuts, nothing takes the starch out of a male more than that and it's not lethal, you won't go to jail for defending yourself in that manner.

Sorry this happened to you... your courage is an inspiration to us all !

OO

Peky

Quote from: V M on June 24, 2014, 07:11:41 PM
Do you carry the gun in your purse?

Even though I don't like guns much I've been considering to get a small caliber pistol and have been thinking about how I would carry it

No, I do have a concealable holster, but it is a full size 1911, I have been thinking of buying something really small like a makarov because this thing just feel really large to carry on me now, and there are some small frame 1911s by Kimber that I thought were quite nice they are really out of my price range especially for something I don't know of I would use.

I have been meaning to buy some pepper spray again I had some on me at the club and it was taken from me :( and I hadn't remembered to buy more. I have little confidence in my ability to fight off an attacker weaponless.

There were times after my mom and I and Snickers got attacked by a dog back in North Carolina that whenever I would walk Snickers from that point on I'd bring my seam ripper with me just in case of another vicious dog getting loose. Though after a bit I stopped carrying it, figured it'd be just as easy to step on its leg and break it if ever attacked again. I was really serious about protecting my dog, she was almost killed that day after all.

As for people, eh, I guess I'm just going to have to learn how to scream, and very loud. And rely on my speed and agility to get away because I don't have the strength to fend off a strong attacker, simple facts (I can't even do two push-ups). Though a good swift kick to the nuts would be a definite option if cornered. I pray I never get put into that kind of encounter.

Damn, chase them down, what're nuts!  :o Good that you were able to reverse roles, but be careful, next time it may not work out that way, you lucked out that they were all cowards.

It's been a few years ago, but I've been attacked a few times and have been somewhat wary of it ever since

I was able to fend off my attackers at that time but I've gotten older and have lost a lot of strength, plus I have various injuries I cope with so I'm not sure I would fare so well now

Quote from: Megan Joanne on June 24, 2014, 07:58:35 PM
Damn, chase them down, what're nuts!  :o Good that you were able to reverse roles, but be careful, next time it may not work out that way, you lucked out that they were all cowards.

Indeed.  I would bet you that none of those yobbos would have done anything of the sort if they had been alone. 

Quote from: Jill F on June 24, 2014, 08:29:34 PM
Indeed.  I would bet you that none of those yobbos would have done anything of the sort if they had been alone.

That's very true. I have NEVER had anything happen when it was a one on one situation. It was always people in groups.

Oh my.. how terrifying... I cannot even imagine.. My heart goes out to you, Jayne, and anyone else who has had to face such cruelty in this world. It is just amazing the amount of stupidity some people have.. :/

Part of the problem is that I can't/won't hide the girls anymore, have 5 O'clock shadow & can't use make up to hide it.

The best advice I can give for those worried about going out is be aware of your surroundings, carry a phone with a good camera.
Here in the UK we can't protect ourselves with guns so martial arts training is a good idea. If you face a situation with confidence most cowards back down.
If you're out at night then carry a torch, the LED ones are good for this. If someone gets aggressive & it's dark then point the torch at them & turn it on for a second to ruin their night vision for at least 30 seconds, maybe more.
Or you could just buy a big dog.

You're a total bad bit** for this. Nice job! but it's still sad we have to grow through these type of scenarios in 2014. I hope you feel better. Those little pussies will get what's coming to them eventually.

Awwww that's absolutely horrid. :-/  hugs x

Quote from: Jayne on June 24, 2014, 05:09:03 PM
3 guys & they'll probably not have enough balls between them
4 guys & they've got just enough balls
5 guys & they've got enough balls but the law of averages means one is a nice guy who'll tell his mates they're out of line
Throw in a woman to impress & throw away the previous rules ;D

Wise words indeed, and those douchebags yesterday certainly proved your theory right. But you know, I absolutely hate the fact that you even have to know this in the first place. The only reason why you know it is because of the way certain Neanderthals have treated you... and I dearly wish it didn't have to be like that.

Quote from: FTMDiaries on June 25, 2014, 03:36:37 AM
Wise words indeed, and those douchebags yesterday certainly proved your theory right. But you know, I absolutely hate the fact that you even have to know this in the first place. The only reason why you know it is because of the way certain Neanderthals have treated you... and I dearly wish it didn't have to be like that.

Unfortunately i'm probably going to have to face more & more of this as i'm well & truly in the "awkward" phase. I went to visit some friends last night & it was difficult setting foot outdoors without the nerves kicking in, Poopie came with me for moral support but even with his company it took over an hour to leave my flat.
It doesn't help that Brizzle is full off knuckle draggers & selp opinionated idiots, or as we call them localy "Wessers" (FTM's probably the only one on this board that will understand that reference).

I'm thinking of getting t-shirts printed up with various slogans on such as:

I'm lucky to be trans or i'd be perfect like you

I'm trans, what's your problem?

Please tell me what you think of me being trans, I can't wait to hear your opinion

I may be trans but i'm still a bloody human being

Is your life really so sad that it bothers you that i'm trans.

P.S. I can't believe you miss quoted me, typical bloody man never listening properly when a woman speaks  ;)

Quote from: Jayne on June 25, 2014, 08:44:26 AM
It doesn't help that Brizzle is full off knuckle draggers & selp opinionated idiots, or as we call them localy "Wessers" (FTM's probably the only one on this board that will understand that reference).

There's a definite air of menace in our home town. People round here tend to be quite aggressive by default; you notice it both when you're out in public and when you're driving around the city. All-in-all, it's a very angry place. It's weird because there are plenty of places in the surrounding area that just aren't like that. Perhaps there's something in the water.

Quote from: Jayne on June 25, 2014, 08:44:26 AM
P.S. I can't believe you miss quoted me, typical bloody man never listening properly when a woman speaks  ;)

LOL!  ;D

Jayne, I so admire you. I never would have the guts to stand up to them. I'd probably have tried to escape the situation, with my feet if necessary. Even at 52, I'm still pretty quick.

This whole pathetic incident, though, underscores something I've been saying for awhile: That people who bully transwomen often get way more than they bargain for. So many I know have combat training or have done military service, carry weapons, or are just bada$$ in one way or another. After all, nearly all of us had to live decades as a male.

Any bully that picks on a transwoman is an especially stupid one.

Quote from: Jayne on June 25, 2014, 08:44:26 AMI'm thinking of getting t-shirts printed up with various slogans on such as:

I'm lucky to be trans or i'd be perfect like you

I'm trans, what's your problem?

Please tell me what you think of me being trans, I can't wait to hear your opinion

I may be trans but i'm still a bloody human being

Is your life really so sad that it bothers you that i'm trans.

My first post got deleted, apparently I was blaming the victim when I'm trying to help.

I'm not at all saying it's right you got attacked at all, no one should ever get attacked.

But how would this help anything?

This seems like you want to taunt people or get negative attention with slogans like this.

Quote from: teeg on June 26, 2014, 02:29:31 PM
But how would this help anything?

...I think it was just a, y'know, joke...

Quote from: Ms Grace on June 26, 2014, 03:35:37 PM
...I think it was just a, y'know, joke...

Spot on Ms Grace,

it may be worth me pointing out that one way I deal with things that would otherwise bother the hell out of me is to find a funny side. One of my life rules is "you shouldn't laugh at others unless you can laugh at yourself".

If I hadn't taken a look at the lighter side then i'd still be fuming (& would have probably set off my IBS).

Another reason to laugh this off as much as possible is that even with my confidence when going out or getting confronted this has knocked me sideways. The day of the incident I had plans to go see a friend, due to putting off going out due to nerves I was 1 1/2 hrs late arriving at her place even though I had my big dog with me for moral support, yesterday I needed to go out to buy dog food & make a few appointments & as I couldn't take the dog it took most of the day to set foot outside.
My tongue in cheek attitude is just my way of dealing with a bad situation, if you ever see a post from me that could be taken as either tongue in cheek humour or me being antagonistic I promise it will be the former, if i'm being antagonistic (unlikely to ever happen) then there will be no doubt.

Harrowing tale, Jayne.
Hikari, we can't carry equalizers here in Canada, but apparently we do have a bear problem, so more than a few outdoor stores (that's cdn for gun shop) carry "Bear Repellent". I would think that the UK has a similar bear problem. Since capsicum is not lethal, I think it's a reasonable defence, I'm sure there would be no hesitation to deploy it. That being said, it is deplorable that we require a defence. Well... one day

One day this all will change
Treat people the same
Stop with the violence
Down with the hate

One day we'll all be free
And proud to be
Under the same sun
Singing songs of freedom like
One day
-Matisyahu

Hi EllieM

I don't know how the law in the UK would stand with that but i'll enquire. I was contacted earlier by the police LGBT liason team, due to the LGBT group i'm setting up & this incident they have given me details to contact them & set up a meeting.
I'll be asking what i'm allowed to carry for protection without facing prosecution, here in the UK the law gives people defending themselves very few options. About all we can use that I know of is rape alarms or possibly pepper spray.
Even though tazers are safe most of the time if you are found with a tazer (or use one) then you'll be charged with the same laws as if you'd shot someone, criminals & those who commit hate crimes wouldn't think twice about carrying weapons or picking up something from the side of the road to use as a weapon, the law abiding peoples only true recourse is to call the police & wait 20 min whilst they insist on taking ALL of your details before they'll dispatch a car & the antagonist makes a getaway.
We are allowed to use "reasonable force" only but it would be up to a court after the attack to decide what is & is not reasonable.

It's too bad that British citizens allowed their politicians to do away with their rights of self defense because it favors the activities of the criminal elements over that of the law abiding citizenry. They're attempting the same thing here in the US and it isn't going to fly.

ich.  What scum. 

Congrats on the super pursuit.  Its not often that the harassed get an opportunity to frighten their harassers off in such an epic manner. 

Woah, you certainly had balls for doing what you did. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have the courage to stand up to hem let alone chase them around while on the phone with the police. Tanks for the word of caution; I'll definitely look towards learning karate when I start my testosterone injections later this year.

These types of stories make me sick and wanna cry. I reminds me of my 3rd world country where they beat you on streets randomly and once in 2002 a friend of mine got beaten and burnt alive in his apartment then robbed of all his belongings and money, that too he was just gay, not even trans. A few days later I dream of him and he told me 'Sister, help me!'. I'll never forget that and I really curse m*****f***** as such that their soul will burn in they extreme depth of hell and may they DIE as soon as possible.  >:(

Quote from: Jayne on June 26, 2014, 05:01:08 PM
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About all we can use that I know of is rape alarms or possibly pepper spray.
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We are allowed to use "reasonable force" only but it would be up to a court after the attack to decide what is & is not reasonable.

Then, the bear spray is fine, it's pepper spray, but like the UK, the practice of self defence in Canada opens up a whole can of litigious worms, so we euphemistically refer to civilian deployed pepper spray as "Bear Repellent". As regards "reasonable force", I have heard more than a few Canadians opine "I would rather be judged by twelve than be carried by six". I suppose that's all moot. It is not legal for a Canadian civilian to defend one's self with a firearm. I'll follow the strategy of M. Mephitis: run, if that fails, turn and spray, walk away.

I'm glad you're okay Jayne!
It really irks me humans like them exist, but also attacking you in group? I would be making fun of them for being men and failing on their assault. (Not that I wanted them to succeed) but they're..not even worthy of being called "men" behaving such way towards a lady.

Quote from: GnomeKid on June 26, 2014, 06:16:47 PM
ich.  What scum.

Too goddamn right.

Jayne, that was nicely played.

Quote from: EllieM on June 27, 2014, 10:39:46 AM

Then, the bear spray is fine, it's pepper spray, but like the UK, the practice of self defence in Canada opens up a whole can of litigious worms, so we euphemistically refer to civilian deployed pepper spray as "Bear Repellent".

Now that you mention it we do have a problem with a rare species known as the lesser spotted knuckle dragging neanderthal around these parts, they tend to get drawn out of their caves in the summer so they may worship the mighty ball of fire in the sky & perform their primitive mating rituals  ;)

Quote from: EllieM on June 27, 2014, 10:39:46 AM

As regards "reasonable force", I have heard more than a few Canadians opine "I would rather be judged by twelve than be carried by six".

That's a great saying, consider it added to my rules to live by

I think I will replace my walking stick with a 9 iron.....

Sad to hear what happened, but nice work all the same Jayne. Which bit of Brizzle were you going through ?

In another thread, someone (bad memory) said that a UK support group had closed its doors. I though about mentioning starting up some sort of support group, now I think we should start a vigilante group.   :icon_2gun:

I hope you do not have any more altercations like this. Not fun.

Stay safe,

Nikki

Quote from: nikkit72 on July 10, 2014, 01:25:19 PM
Which bit of Brizzle were you going through ?

Hiya Nikkit, I don't know how well you know Brizzle but I was in an area called Bedminster, to us locals it's known as inbredminster (for good & obvious reasons).
I'm a 10 minute walk from that area & avoid it as much as possible, if I take a 5 minute walk to my nearest shopping area then I may get a funny look but people let me get on with my life without abuse/rude comments, it's amazing how attitudes change within such a close area.

Quote from: nikkit72 on July 10, 2014, 01:25:19 PM
I think we should start a vigilante group.   :icon_2gun:

It's tempting but we have to rise above such urges, I just wish the haters payed us the same respect.

Quote from: nikkit72 on July 10, 2014, 01:25:19 PM

I hope you do not have any more altercations like this. Not fun.

Unfortunately the girls are becoming harder & harder to hide, even my Iron Maiden t-shirts arent baggy enough & I refuse to buy extra baggy clothes just to hide away from haters.
Since the incident i've had many rude comments & stares around Brizzle, i'd guesstimate that in the last two weeks i've had at least a dozen rude comments aimed at me. Unfortunately i've had to let them all slide as my back & neck only stopped hurting a couple of days ago.

I would like to give each & every one of you a massive thank you for your support so here goes

THANK YOU
UPDATE:

My back & neck have been aching like crazy since the attack, the blow to the back of my head must have been harder than I first thought. Fortunately the aching has died down to almost nothing now (just in time for pride this weekend)

I had a phone call from the police a few days ago, they have checked the cctv in the area but due to the people (I use that term very loosely) sticking mostly to back roads & alleys they have not been caught on camera.
The police said that if I see them (& it's safe) then I should try to take a picture of them. I'm not really comfortable with that idea however. When they attacked me they were the instigators but if I brazenly walk up to them in public & snap a photo then surely i'm the one being antagonistic, I can't see a circumstance where this action would not lead to another altercation.

I've found it very depressing that my effort to get justice has been in vain, it doesn't help that I came off my happy pills about 3 weeks ago & have now been considering returning to use them as things will probably get worse with the combination of the girls growing & the weather being too hot to wear extra layers to hide them.

Quote from: Jayne on July 10, 2014, 07:27:05 PM
My back & neck have been aching like crazy since the attack, the blow to the back of my head must have been harder than I first thought. Fortunately the aching has died down to almost nothing now (just in time for pride this weekend)

Sorry to hear you're still suffering, but I'm glad to hear it's settling down. I'm really looking forward to Pride this weekend, and if those scrotes who attacked you decide to head into town this weekend, god help 'em. ;)

Quote from: Jayne on July 10, 2014, 07:27:05 PM
The police said that if I see them (& it's safe) then I should try to take a picture of them. I'm not really comfortable with that idea however. When they attacked me they were the instigators but if I brazenly walk up to them in public & snap a photo then surely i'm the one being antagonistic, I can't see a circumstance where this action would not lead to another altercation.

I agree - this is very dangerous advice on the part of the police. It might be OK if you were in a crowded place (like a café) and they didn't spot you taking the picture... but let's face it, the whole idea is that you capture a clear shot of their faces, which means they'd be looking in your direction and would spot you doing it. Of course they're going to perceive that as an act of aggression: you chased them for blocks and they knew you were on the phone to the cops so they'll know why you're taking the pic. And anyway... stopping to take a mug shot of some scrotes whilst walking alone down the mean streets of Bemmie? Not a safe idea.

Quote from: Jayne on July 10, 2014, 07:27:05 PM
I've found it very depressing that my effort to get justice has been in vain, it doesn't help that I came off my happy pills about 3 weeks ago & have now been considering returning to use them as things will probably get worse with the combination of the girls growing & the weather being too hot to wear extra layers to hide them.

It might not be a bad idea, at least whilst the weather is hot. Happy pills might help if they can dull people's comments, especially if they're becoming more frequent now that the girls are coming along nicely.

Let's hope your determination and your bravery have made those idiots think twice about harassing innocent people.

Quote from: Jayne on July 10, 2014, 07:15:30 PM
Hiya Nikkit, I don't know how well you know Brizzle but I was in an area called Bedminster, to us locals it's known as inbredminster (for good & obvious reasons).
I'm a 10 minute walk from that area & avoid it as much as possible, if I take a 5 minute walk to my nearest shopping area then I may get a funny look but people let me get on with my life without abuse/rude comments, it's amazing how attitudes change within such a close area.

I know it fairly well having worked there for about 15 years and living only a few miles away, so I know the areas to avoid  ;D Also used to be a Bierkeler regular for a while..

Quote from: Jayne on July 10, 2014, 07:15:30 PM
Unfortunately the girls are becoming harder & harder to hide, even my Iron Maiden t-shirts arent baggy enough & I refuse to buy extra baggy clothes just to hide away from haters.
Since the incident i've had many rude comments & stares around Brizzle, i'd guesstimate that in the last two weeks i've had at least a dozen rude comments aimed at me. Unfortunately i've had to let them all slide as my back & neck only stopped hurting a couple of days ago.

Haters can go and stuff themselves. Maybe try this t-shirt instead, nothing like a good poke in the eye...

http://hallohalloo.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/heavy-metal-style.html (http://hallohalloo.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/heavy-metal-style.html)

>:-)

Anyway, ignorance is bliss in some cases so stay happy and positive, and remember

You'll take my life but I'll take yours too
You'll fire your musket but I'll run you through
So when you're waiting for the next attack
You'd better stand there's no turning back.

All together now...

Quote from: nikkit72 on July 11, 2014, 05:17:12 AM
I know the areas to avoid

Yeah, the bit between Thornbury and Clevedon. ;D

(For those of you who aren't in our neck of the woods - that's pretty much the entire Bristol conurbation)

It is not THAT bad. ;D

Could be a lot worse. It could be Newport....

Main thing though, Jane is ok and she's a Maiden fan,  or possibly just a Maiden t-shirt fan... :P

Quote from: nikkit72 on July 11, 2014, 08:51:37 AM
It is not THAT bad. ;D

Could be a lot worse. It could be Newport....

Main thing though, Jane is ok and she's a Maiden fan,  or possibly just a Maiden t-shirt fan... :P

Whoa anyone with a bod like that Maiden model could rule the universe!  :laugh: :D

Wow, that's terrible  :( I wish we could live in a world where people aren't judged for who they are, let alone violently attacked. I hope you are ok and all is well. Hope that aching goes away fully. Rest well and be safe, friend.

Jayne I am so sorry you had to go through that crap what doesn't  kill you will make you stronger

Gods, I'm glad you are okay...well...aside from the pain and trauma of course...it's times like this I wish we were allowed guns in the UK again...(this opinion has nothing to do with me being a gun nut...nope ^^)

Although...crap...when I think about it...my greatest fear now is...well...I suffer from...-cough- stress induced spontaneous orgasms -cough-

...

Soooooo yeah...if I get a sudden jolt of adrenaline and or stress, there is around a 50/50 chance I will crumble on the spot into a...bit of a...convulsing mess >.>

I hadn't considered it before now...but it's pretty sobering to think that in a similar situation, I would have been hit on the head, and then in all likelihood, found myself a completely vulnerable gibbering wreck on the pavement due to my messed up body :(

Luckily for me I have been full time for almost 4 months now, and have not received so much as a nasty glance (bar one particularly fanatical preacher) which is surprising, since I live in Scotland (not exactly known for our open minded outlook on "alternative lifestyles") and I have not changed my daily routine at all, still going out and about regularly etc...so hopefully I can avoid any...incidents ^^#

It's a scary world out there...

Sweetie I am sorry for what you went through, but where on earth do you live? Message me anytime. I was bullied when younger too. :(

Your very lucky you are okay, and hope the pain goes away. In one situation I was stalked by a person in a parking lot and he wanted to go in the elevator with me, to "help me". I told him I take the next one. He was trying very hard to distract me and to rob me. I try not to give anyone any chances and thats something thats hard to do sometimes.

So sorry you had to go through that, or that anyone should be discriminated against at all. Regardless of GID, gender, race, religion, etc. We have a long ways to go as a society and species sadly when stuff like this still happens.

That being said, I'm glad you're ok. And I agree, everyone should take self defense courses of any sort. Focus on what your stronger features are, do some research, and find a fighting style/martial art that uses those features. I have thick strong legs, but not very strong upper body, so I'm looking at Muay Thai kickboxing and Jeet Kun Do (specifically for the mentality of "Take what works, eliminate what doesn't, make it your own" on top of it being the style Bruce Lee brought to the rest of the world).