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Title: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Misato on June 28, 2014, 07:51:48 PM
Post by: Misato on June 28, 2014, 07:51:48 PM
Can't beleive I'm starting a thread in this section. I seriously didn't see this day coming.
Basic thing is this. I found out about the possibility of cosmetic SRS in another thread and I'm wondering if anyone has experience or more info? I've found some and it seems like the right option for me (provided I can get over pieces of my flesh being round filed).
I found an old post on the forum that had "You never know" themes running through it but if I have to get the full SRS I ain't getting SRS, therefore, I won't be penetraitable so I'm not losing anything. But I would gain a ton of comfort from not having to tuck. I also like that it seems a lot less invasive and so I could do it under the pretense of a vacation which I like cause if I do this, I don't want the event to come up at work. This is the most private part of my private life after all and I don't want to have to tell others because of the time investment.
Basic thing is this. I found out about the possibility of cosmetic SRS in another thread and I'm wondering if anyone has experience or more info? I've found some and it seems like the right option for me (provided I can get over pieces of my flesh being round filed).
I found an old post on the forum that had "You never know" themes running through it but if I have to get the full SRS I ain't getting SRS, therefore, I won't be penetraitable so I'm not losing anything. But I would gain a ton of comfort from not having to tuck. I also like that it seems a lot less invasive and so I could do it under the pretense of a vacation which I like cause if I do this, I don't want the event to come up at work. This is the most private part of my private life after all and I don't want to have to tell others because of the time investment.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: LifeInLimbo on June 28, 2014, 08:11:24 PM
Post by: LifeInLimbo on June 28, 2014, 08:11:24 PM
I'm not sure if it would help but is this the thread you were referring to? It seems to provide some useful information regarding it.
SRS full vs. SRS cosmetic
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=40361.0
SRS full vs. SRS cosmetic
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=40361.0
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Misato on June 28, 2014, 08:47:39 PM
Post by: Misato on June 28, 2014, 08:47:39 PM
I don't think that was the one.
I found a few others looking for the one I found. This one had some information I learned in the other thread that Brassard does it:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=154614.0
I was wondering about how the heck do you go about finding other doctors who'd do it?
I found a few others looking for the one I found. This one had some information I learned in the other thread that Brassard does it:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=154614.0
I was wondering about how the heck do you go about finding other doctors who'd do it?
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Flan on June 28, 2014, 10:12:35 PM
Post by: Flan on June 28, 2014, 10:12:35 PM
Quote from: Misato on June 28, 2014, 08:47:39 PMMostly the hunt and peck method of emailing surgeons. The best memory I have is that Brassard, Reed and Bellringer all did non-vaginoplasty reassignment although Bellringer is in practice flux and I'm not sure if Reed does still. A lot of the surgeons probably know how to do it but don't want to get sued by regretters.
I was wondering about how the heck do you go about finding other doctors who'd do it?
Personally, I'm years away from even touching a doctor's coat even though I'm at UMN right now for medical education :|
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Misato on June 28, 2014, 11:22:48 PM
Post by: Misato on June 28, 2014, 11:22:48 PM
Good to see you Flan. :) And thanks.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Agent_J on July 01, 2014, 09:38:40 PM
Post by: Agent_J on July 01, 2014, 09:38:40 PM
As of 2013 Brassard definitely does; it was listed in the paperwork I received from him. It's rumored to be cheaper, too, but I don't have any knowledge of that as I ultimately didn't elect it (I do wish I had.)
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Misato on July 01, 2014, 10:16:49 PM
Post by: Misato on July 01, 2014, 10:16:49 PM
Quote from: Agent_J on July 01, 2014, 09:38:40 PM
As of 2013 Brassard definitely does; it was listed in the paperwork I received from him. It's rumored to be cheaper, too, but I don't have any knowledge of that as I ultimately didn't elect it (I do wish I had.)
Good to know as I'm pretty well committed to the idea that a cosmetic solution is in my future.
O.o
I'm not gung-ho "I'M GETTING SURGERY!" about this. I hate the idea of going under the knife and would feel the same way about getting my tonsils removed or my appendix out. Despite where I am now with this I still don't understand how so many people I've met can be so casual about surgery. But I felt the same way about HRT and blood clot risk and now I'm all, "meh". Still this is surgery. This is cutting my living and I'd very much like to keep it alive cause I don't want to go, flesh.
This is going to take time...
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: alabamagirl on July 01, 2014, 10:38:03 PM
Post by: alabamagirl on July 01, 2014, 10:38:03 PM
This intrigues me... Is it the same as regular MTF GRS but without the depth and dilation? Do you still get all the sensation? If I ever manage to afford GRS and this is indeed cheaper, it sounds like the option for me, since I have no desire to ever be penetrated.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Flan on July 01, 2014, 10:38:20 PM
Post by: Flan on July 01, 2014, 10:38:20 PM
Quote from: Misato on July 01, 2014, 10:16:49 PMAll I have to say is your life, your rules. I or anyone else can say about our choices but you have to decide what is best for your life under your rules. Take as much time as you need.
This is cutting my living and I'd very much like to keep it alive cause I don't want to go, flesh.
This is going to take time...
Quote from: Pikachu on July 01, 2014, 10:38:03 PMThe "vagina" is sorta still there but more of a dimple as opposed to a cavity in order to have labia aesthetics. Sensation (sic) is still there externally in the clitoris. G-spot is accessed the "other" way (anus).
This intrigues me... Is it the same as regular MTF GRS but without the depth and dilation? Do you still get all the sensation? If I ever manage to afford GRS and this is indeed cheaper, it sounds like the option for me, since I have no desire to ever be penetrated.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 01, 2014, 11:09:02 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 01, 2014, 11:09:02 PM
I may not like the idea of a man in side me, but the idea of another girls fingers or even my own appeal to me. Its not my primary interest, but its still there.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Misato on July 01, 2014, 11:25:29 PM
Post by: Misato on July 01, 2014, 11:25:29 PM
Quote from: Flan on July 01, 2014, 10:38:20 PM
The "vagina" is sorta still there but more of a dimple as opposed to a cavity in order to have labia aesthetics.
I like dimple. Sounds cute.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: mm on July 01, 2014, 11:29:28 PM
Post by: mm on July 01, 2014, 11:29:28 PM
awilliams1701, you only get one chance to get a vagina lined with your penis skin, so if you think you would to play or have a girl play in there you need to get it with your SRS.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 01, 2014, 11:33:02 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 01, 2014, 11:33:02 PM
Well that's currently the plan, but I'm pre everything. I start therapy tomorrow. I guess I could have been a little more clear.
Quote from: mm on July 01, 2014, 11:29:28 PM
awilliams1701, you only get one chance to get a vagina lined with your penis skin, so if you think you would to play or have a girl play in there you need to get it with your SRS.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Agent_J on July 02, 2014, 04:00:22 PM
Post by: Agent_J on July 02, 2014, 04:00:22 PM
For me, the lack of the vagina cavity would mean a lot less hassle (dilation) and I have a hard time seeing negatives. I'm not interested in having men penetrate me. My wife has tried play that involves penetrating me with either her fingers or a toy and I find that completely uninteresting. There is just no sensation within the cavity for me; it's all in my vulva.
I had planned to ask for it but chickened out. I was terrified of being refused (yes, I know this is irrational. It was the product of 19 years of dealing with abusive gatekeepers.)
I had planned to ask for it but chickened out. I was terrified of being refused (yes, I know this is irrational. It was the product of 19 years of dealing with abusive gatekeepers.)
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: alabamagirl on July 02, 2014, 05:37:57 PM
Post by: alabamagirl on July 02, 2014, 05:37:57 PM
Quote from: Agent_J on July 02, 2014, 04:00:22 PM
For me, the lack of the vagina cavity would mean a lot less hassle (dilation) and I have a hard time seeing negatives. I'm not interested in having men penetrate me. My wife has tried play that involves penetrating me with either her fingers or a toy and I find that completely uninteresting. There is just no sensation within the cavity for me; it's all in my vulva.
I had planned to ask for it but chickened out. I was terrified of being refused (yes, I know this is irrational. It was the product of 19 years of dealing with abusive gatekeepers.)
Could you safely stop dilating? Would you only lose depth if you didn't, or would it cause other problems? This may be a really dumb question. Apologies if it is.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Agent_J on July 02, 2014, 06:22:23 PM
Post by: Agent_J on July 02, 2014, 06:22:23 PM
At this point I could, yes.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 02, 2014, 07:05:13 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 02, 2014, 07:05:13 PM
That actually is a good question IMO. I think we should learn as much as possible. This is something my therapist encouraged me to do today.
Quote from: Pikachu on July 02, 2014, 05:37:57 PM
Could you safely stop dilating? Would you only lose depth if you didn't, or would it cause other problems? This may be a really dumb question. Apologies if it is.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Agent_J on July 02, 2014, 07:34:31 PM
Post by: Agent_J on July 02, 2014, 07:34:31 PM
One of the women in my cohort asked Brassard that question. He said that it's fine to do after 6 months, but there are health reasons that make it necessary for the first 6 months.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: suzifrommd on July 02, 2014, 08:14:27 PM
Post by: suzifrommd on July 02, 2014, 08:14:27 PM
Quote from: Pikachu on July 02, 2014, 05:37:57 PM
Could you safely stop dilating? Would you only lose depth if you didn't, or would it cause other problems? This may be a really dumb question. Apologies if it is.
The way it was explained to me, the early dilating makes sure that the vaginal membranes and the tissue into which it has been set maintain contact so they grow together. If they didn't, there would be a possibility of prolapse, which is really serious, not to mention unsightly.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 02, 2014, 09:42:38 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 02, 2014, 09:42:38 PM
I've heard you have to do it for life though. I would imagine that while there might be minor complications it would be possible to stop after you're fully healed if you decide you're not worried about depth.
As for prolapse, yes I've seen that in porn. Only the ass though. It shocked the crap out of me and I'm like that girl needs to go to the hospital!
As for prolapse, yes I've seen that in porn. Only the ass though. It shocked the crap out of me and I'm like that girl needs to go to the hospital!
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: alabamagirl on July 02, 2014, 09:58:58 PM
Post by: alabamagirl on July 02, 2014, 09:58:58 PM
I don't know what prolapse is, and I'm not on good enough internet right now to go look up scary pictures or videos, but it doesn't sound pleasant. *cringe*
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: mrs izzy on July 02, 2014, 10:04:58 PM
Post by: mrs izzy on July 02, 2014, 10:04:58 PM
Prolapse quick explanation. It is when the neo vagina internal lining does not heal fast to the sides of the wall.
You can get a partial or a total prolapse.
Anyway it is not good. Have to have it surgery repaired.
One of them Major complication things.
Isabell
You can get a partial or a total prolapse.
Anyway it is not good. Have to have it surgery repaired.
One of them Major complication things.
Isabell
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 02, 2014, 10:05:05 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 02, 2014, 10:05:05 PM
Basically the tube falls out of the hole and goes inside out. In the ass version that I've seen, you're ass is literally falling out of your body.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: alabamagirl on July 02, 2014, 10:09:52 PM
Post by: alabamagirl on July 02, 2014, 10:09:52 PM
*cringes more*
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: mm on July 02, 2014, 10:13:29 PM
Post by: mm on July 02, 2014, 10:13:29 PM
A cis woman can have a prolapse as well. There vagina with the uterus slip down and the cervix can actually appear at the vaginal opening. A GYN surgeon can try to sew the top of the uterus to the muscles above or do a hysterectomy. There is also a device that can the inserted into the vagina to hold the parts up too.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 02, 2014, 11:03:08 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on July 02, 2014, 11:03:08 PM
I agree but when I saw it, it was one of those things that's horrible to look at, but also hard to look away. I don't recall how that video came up. Ive had mixed feeling since seeing it. I'll tell you one thing though. There was nothing sexually appealing about it.
Quote from: Pikachu on July 02, 2014, 10:09:52 PM
*cringes more*
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Agent_J on July 02, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
Post by: Agent_J on July 02, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
Quote from: awilliams1701 on July 02, 2014, 09:42:38 PM
I've heard you have to do it for life though. I would imagine that while there might be minor complications it would be possible to stop after you're fully healed if you decide you're not worried about depth.
Brassard didn't seem to think any significant complication would have any but the most remote odds after 6 months. For me, the bigger issue is with my PC muscle. I'm supposed to be down to once per week now but haven't managed to get less frequent than once every other day; trying to go three days means dilator insertion is excruciating.
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: Misato on July 02, 2014, 11:31:21 PM
Post by: Misato on July 02, 2014, 11:31:21 PM
Quote from: mm on July 02, 2014, 10:13:29 PM
A cis woman can have a prolapse as well. There vagina with the uterus slip down and the cervix can actually appear at the vaginal opening. A GYN surgeon can try to sew the top of the uterus to the muscles above or do a hysterectomy. There is also a device that can the inserted into the vagina to hold the parts up too.
I think I know someone dealing with this. They didn't make it sound pleasant.
Yeah, I'm totally good on what to do here. It's just the me-getting-surgery thing...
Title: Re: Cosmetic Option
Post by: suzifrommd on July 03, 2014, 07:51:19 AM
Post by: suzifrommd on July 03, 2014, 07:51:19 AM
My surgeon stressed that prolapse was extremely rare and that in her entire career she'd only seen one, and that was when the patient had been prevented from dilating.