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Just being curious for the minute. I know i will perhaps never be able to afford it.

But does anyone have any references to private gender therapists in and around the Yorkshire area of the UK?

Quote from: wishy on July 26, 2007, 04:17:48 AM
Just being curious for the minute. I know i will perhaps never be able to afford it.

But does anyone have any references to private gender therapists in and around the Yorkshire area of the UK?

I'll find out for you Wishy......

Private would be easier and quicker and the NHS could take many years...

Wishy,

The Porterbrook Clinic in Sheffield does Private consultation, Lead Physchiatrist Kevan Wylie.

http://www.porterbrookclinic.org.uk/ (http://www.porterbrookclinic.org.uk/)

Buffy

Hey Wishy if you hear any good news about that! Please share :)

I am originally refered to porterbrook clinic. I didn't know they did private, but i cant seem to find anywhere on their web that states so.  :-\

Quote from: wishy on July 27, 2007, 02:43:27 AM
I am originally refered to porterbrook clinic. I didn't know they did private, but i cant seem to find anywhere on their web that states so.  :-\

I went there for my second referal for SRS.

I saw Kevan Wylie Privately.

Buffy

how much does he charge?

was he very helpful at all?

It was 140 pound, for basically an hour session. This was 6 years ago though.

Buffy

Quote from: Buffy on July 26, 2007, 11:15:04 AM
Wishy,

The Porterbrook Clinic in Sheffield does Private consultation, Lead Physchiatrist Kevan Wylie.

http://www.porterbrookclinic.org.uk/ (http://www.porterbrookclinic.org.uk/)

It was 140 pound, for basically an hour session. This was 6 years ago though.

Buffy

I just rang them and they don't have a private practice at the Porterbrook Clinic........but Kevan Wylie does work at a private practice at:

Thornbury Hospital
312 Forward Road
Sheffield
S10 3BR

0114 2662777

Quote from: wishy on July 27, 2007, 05:13:11 AM
how much does he charge?

The charges are I'm told this morning are £150.00 per appointment.

Thanks so much for the info, Berliegh!

:icon_flower:

I'll have to have a think and maybe i can work something out... maybe not. I dont know.  :-\

Wow thats expensive for one appointment! :(

Quote from: wishy on July 26, 2007, 04:17:48 AM
Just being curious for the minute. I know i will perhaps never be able to afford it.

But does anyone have any references to private gender therapists in and around the Yorkshire area of the UK?

Are you looking for somebody to just facilitate transition/HRT/SRS or are you actually looking for therapy.  If it's the former you might be better going to see Dr Curtis in London.  He's not exactly cheap but you won't have to see him that many times.  Getting to London by train is pretty cheap and easy (at least from Sheffield it is).

If you're just looking for therapy for gender issues I can point you in the direction of a couple of people in Sheffield who could help.

Posted on: July 27, 2007, 08:09:39 AM

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Quote from: Berliegh on July 27, 2007, 06:46:53 AM

Thornbury Hospital
312 Forward Road
Sheffield
S10 3BR

That's 312 Fulwood Road, not forward (easy mistake).  What's funny is that I used to live in Ranmoor Halls Of Residence which is next door to that place and I never knew what it was until now.  :D

Quote from: Jaston on July 27, 2007, 07:53:45 AM
Wow thats expensive for one appointment! :(

You might think that £150.00 is expensive for one private appointment but the NHS GIC clinics charge your PCT about £350.00 per NHS appointment.



Posted on: July 27, 2007, 08:43:46 AM

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Quote from: Caroline on July 27, 2007, 08:12:47 AM

That's 312 Fulwood Road, not forward (easy mistake).  What's funny is that I used to live in Ranmoor Halls Of Residence which is next door to that place and I never knew what it was until now.  :D

Caroline, I'll tell you why that happened......I rang them this morning for the address details and they gave me the information over the phone and the lady spoke too quickly...

Quote from: Berliegh on July 27, 2007, 08:43:46 AM

Quote from: Jaston on July 27, 2007, 07:53:45 AM
Wow thats expensive for one appointment! :(

You might think that £150.00 is expensive for one private appointment but the NHS charge your PCT about £350.00 per appointment.

Well at least that its not coming out of my pocket ;)

Does bupa have gender specialists? I thought they where quite cheap...?

Quote from: Jaston on July 27, 2007, 08:46:20 AM

Quote from: Berliegh on July 27, 2007, 08:43:46 AM

Quote from: Jaston on July 27, 2007, 07:53:45 AM
Wow thats expensive for one appointment! :(

You might think that £150.00 is expensive for one private appointment but the NHS charge your PCT about £350.00 per appointment.

Well at least that its not coming out of my pocket ;)

Does bupa have gender specialists? I thought they where quite cheap...?

Indirectly it is.....you pay taxes don't you?.....also the waiting list for the NHS clinic in Sheffield is 3 years!   I know what option I would go for........

The more you learn about the NHS regarding gender clinics the more you will see private is the best option...

Yes I have paid enough taxes. Well I will find out how much it is with bupa.

Thank you Berliegh :)

Quote from: Berliegh on July 27, 2007, 08:50:37 AM
Indirectly it is.....you pay taxes don't you?.....also the waiting list for the NHS clinic in Sheffield is 3 years!   I know what option I would go for........

It's 6 years actually if you live in the Sheffield PCT area.  They're currently seeing patients referred in 2001

Some times I wished I lived in the US :(

Quote from: Jaston on July 27, 2007, 08:51:59 AM
Yes I have paid enough taxes. Well I will find out how much it is with bupa.

Thank you Berliegh :)

Think about it Jaston, it cost £150.00 for a private consultation but you could get an appointment straight away and a possible referral the same day. With the NHS you could wait months, or years! for an appointment and then they will make you wait 6 months again for another appointment and still not get a referral from them...

£150.00 is only about the same cost as a laser session..

Caroline, They told me 3 years for Sheffield on the phone this morning...

Thank you. Well when I get back on the ladder I will defiantly have to look into that! Thank you.

With Bupa though if you are referred for surgery... will you have to pay for it out of your own pockets or then get it done on the NHS?!

BUPA specificaly exlude any thing relating to Gender Reassignment in there plans.

Check the small print!

You can get general counselloring, physhciatry, I had to say I was suicidal.

Buffy

Quote from: Buffy on July 27, 2007, 09:00:58 AM
BUPA specificaly exlude any thing relating to Gender Reassignment in there plans.

Check the small print!

You can get general counselloring, physhciatry, I had to say I was suicidal.

Buffy

Damn! That sucks...... :(

Quote from: Jaston on July 27, 2007, 09:00:11 AM
Thank you. Well when I get back on the ladder I will defiantly have to look into that! Thank you.

With Bupa though if you are referred for surgery... will you have to pay for it out of your own pockets or then get it done on the NHS?!

You would pay for it but Bupa have scemes where you can pay in installments..

Buffy,
I bet bupa don't exclude facial surgery, breast augmentation or liposuction which are both part of a gender change (see HBSOC)..

Quote from: Buffy on July 27, 2007, 09:00:58 AM
BUPA specificaly exlude any thing relating to Gender Reassignment in there plans.

Check the small print!

You can get general counselloring, physhciatry, I had to say I was suicidal.

Buffy

Berliegh do you use Bupa?

Quote from: Berliegh on July 27, 2007, 08:58:46 AM

Caroline, They told me 3 years for Sheffield on the phone this morning...

*hijacks thread*

That's really odd, I was told they were seeing patients referred in 2001 when I rang up about jan/feb time.  I was referred back in April 2003 and am still waiting...  Maybe they've sped up and it's only 3 years for new patients.  Hope so!

and I've just rang them and asked how long the waiting list would be for new patients from the Sheffield PCT area and they said (not exact quote) 'well we're currently seeing patients who've been on the list from 2001 so that's about 6 years'.  Asked about patients from other areas and they said that the waiting list for them isn't much better either.

Quote from: Jaston on July 27, 2007, 09:03:49 AM

Quote from: Buffy on July 27, 2007, 09:00:58 AM
BUPA specificaly exlude any thing relating to Gender Reassignment in there plans.

Check the small print!

You can get general counselloring, physhciatry, I had to say I was suicidal.

Buffy

Berliegh do you use Bupa?

are you kidding.......I'm a bit of a renegade.....I just get things done as and when I have the money. I went through the whole NHS thing and it was a nightmare....

I think it's probably much worse in London and I ended up fighting with a London NHS GIC clinic for 6 years to try and access some form of treatment.......they made things very difficult for me to the point where I left.....so far my only source of treatment has been private....and that's not a lot so far as I'm not very well off....

Quote from: Berliegh on July 27, 2007, 09:02:09 AM

Quote from: Jaston on July 27, 2007, 09:00:11 AM
Thank you. Well when I get back on the ladder I will defiantly have to look into that! Thank you.

With Bupa though if you are referred for surgery... will you have to pay for it out of your own pockets or then get it done on the NHS?!

You would pay for it but Bupa have scemes where you can pay in installments..

Buffy,
I bet bupa don't exclude facial surgery, breast augmentation or liposuction which are both part of a gender change (see HBSOC)..

Bupa will not cover any form of cosmetic surgery, They carry out Cosmetic surgery but you have to pay

I tried to get my BA covered by bupa and they refused.

Buffy

So by private what do you mean? I know oversly you pay for it but do you go through someone else like bupa.... by the way I haven't had much sleep at the moment so I am abit slow.....*yawns*

Well I live in Norfolk and have been referred to the Gender Clinic here on 22 June 2007 however I have heard no word since.. and I am having trouble trying to find the address and telephone number as I wish to know how long the waiting list actually is.  :(

Ok I have found where it is and its 2 and a half hours drive away!!! :(

Quote from: Buffy on July 27, 2007, 09:12:43 AM
Bupa will not cover any form of cosmetic surgery, They carry out Cosmetic surgery but you have to pay

I tried to get my BA covered by bupa and they refused.

Buffy

Buffy you made a Contradiction.....either they do cosmetic surgery or they don't.....I think they do and if you were to go the Bupa route you could pay in installments...

But I would rather seek out more specialised people for gender related surgery...and wouldn't use Bupa..

Quote from: Jaston on July 27, 2007, 09:15:21 AM
So by private what do you mean? I know oversly you pay for it but do you go through someone else like bupa.... by the way I haven't had much sleep at the moment so I am abit slow.....*yawns*

Well I live in Norfolk and have been referred to the Gender Clinic here on 22 June 2007 however I have heard no word since.. and I am having trouble trying to find the address and telephone number as I wish to know how long the waiting list actually is.  :(

Ok I have found where it is and its 2 and a half hours drive away!!! :(

My letter after my referral saying i was on the list took a good 3 months. Then i got the address and contacts and web address from the letter. And i emailed them, and at the time (Porterbrook Clinic in Sheffield) about a month and a half ago stated people who were referred to in 2004 were still being seen.

2yrs... 3yrs... 6yrs.... everyone seems to be getting diff quotes from the same place and i'm beginning to loose my trust in them... not that there were any to begin with.

Quote from: Jaston on July 27, 2007, 09:15:21 AM
So by private what do you mean? I know oversly you pay for it but do you go through someone else like bupa.... by the way I haven't had much sleep at the moment so I am abit slow.....*yawns*

Well I live in Norfolk and have been referred to the Gender Clinic here on 22 June 2007 however I have heard no word since.. and I am having trouble trying to find the address and telephone number as I wish to know how long the waiting list actually is.  :(

Ok I have found where it is and its 2 and a half hours drive away!!! :(

Jaston, I wouldn't ever go to another NHS gender clinic....which wasted a large chunk of my life and made me very suicidal and led into depression....the NHS will stall you as much as possible and they have no care or respect for you either....

Most places have gender psychiatrists who work private, you have to look around and find them and the same with surgeons and specialists....the NHS won't supply them...

I transitioned in the UK through Leicester GIC. I went privately through Nuffield Hospitals as the same consultants who work at Leicester General, also work at the Nuffield Leicester. Bupa (who where my providers at the time) refused to pay for any of my treatment.

Many of the Nuffield Hospitals have an associated Physchiatry unit that deals with Gender issues and they have a Gender Clinic. The one at Leicester was held once a Month on a Wed Evening.

I actually managed to get Speach Therapy via the Leicester NHS trust (even though I was outside the area). My GP in my own area provided all my blood work and converted my first Private Hormone prescription into an NHS one.

I got two referal letters, although I only needed one (the second being through Sheffield) for SRS, having previously having FFS in Thailand (which was against the wishes of my Physchiatrist), but he could not stop me.

Buffy

Quote from: Berliegh on July 27, 2007, 09:21:51 AM

Quote from: Jaston on July 27, 2007, 09:15:21 AM
So by private what do you mean? I know oversly you pay for it but do you go through someone else like bupa.... by the way I haven't had much sleep at the moment so I am abit slow.....*yawns*

Well I live in Norfolk and have been referred to the Gender Clinic here on 22 June 2007 however I have heard no word since.. and I am having trouble trying to find the address and telephone number as I wish to know how long the waiting list actually is.  :(

Ok I have found where it is and its 2 and a half hours drive away!!! :(

Jaston, I wouldn't ever go to another NHS gender clinic....which wasted a large chunk of my life and made me very suicidal and led into depression....the NHS will stall you as much as possible and they have no care or respect for you either....

Most places have gender psychiatrists who work private, you have to look around and find them and the same with surgeons and specialists....the NHS won't supply them...

The thing at the moment I am unemployed and will be starting a new job *fingers crossed* in September so I am hoping that I will be able to save the money up and go private from then. However I will want a consultation with one of the Bupa's doctors before I go ahead with them.
I just don't like how long the waiting lists are!?? So private seems to be my only hope however, I am even considering having top surgery done in the US as its half the price and I have family out there too, do you need a referral letter to gt top surgery done even if it is private done through a cosmetic surgeon?

Quote from: Buffy on July 27, 2007, 09:24:30 AM
I actually managed to get Speach Therapy via the Leicester NHS trust (even though I was outside the area). My GP in my own area provided all my blood work and converted my first Private Hormone prescription into an NHS one.

I got two referal letters, although I only needed one (the second being through Sheffield) for SRS, having previously having FFS in Thailand (which was against the wishes of my Physchiatrist), but he could not stop me.

Buffy

I went along similar lines Buffy and as regards to hormones which I started on privately the same day which was then converted to NHS prescription. This was after a two year battle previously with Charing Cross GIC of refusing hormones...

With my PCT, they need two referral letters for GRS and they have to be NHS specified which is a bit of a stumbling block.....I have one letter I can possibly use but my PCT insist on two..

Posted on: July 27, 2007, 09:33:34 AM

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Quote from: Jaston on July 27, 2007, 09:30:51 AM

The thing at the moment I am unemployed and will be starting a new job *fingers crossed* in September so I am hoping that I will be able to save the money up and go private from then. However I will want a consultation with one of the Bupa's doctors before I go ahead with them.
I just don't like how long the waiting lists are!?? So private seems to be my only hope however, I am even considering having top surgery done in the US as its half the price and I have family out there too, do you need a referral letter to gt top surgery done even if it is private done through a cosmetic surgeon?

I work for myself, so I dip in to the forum every now and then. I don't earn hardly anything at the moment. I used to run my own business which went bust in 2003.

Bupa is not the right move.......stay on the NHS waiting list but keep your options open....keep it on the back burner......

The U.S is a good idea and they have some top gender specialists over there like Douglas Ousterhout who is a specialist in FFS......and remember the only surgery you need a psychiatrists referral for is GRS if you go private......unless you have a good NHS PCT who might give you funding for a boob job or in some very rare extreame cases FFS...it has been known..... So in that case you would need NHS referrals..