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ok so I have no idea about my pants size for female pants. I have been buying tops and stuff online because I am far more comfortable buying stuff online at this point, and I can get some really good deals on ebay! The thing is that I can buy pants because I have no idea what size I am. In mens I wear 28-30 and my waist and hip measurements are 28-36. any advice? btw I am also pretty tall at 5'11

I would guess possibly an 8 or 10 tall.

ok thanks I know that each store different, so I definitely want to go to store eventually so I can try them on and get the best fit, but right now im just not comfortable. im probably gonna wait until I present myself as female to shop in the women section. pants are really the last thing I need.

Quote from: amber roskamp on July 20, 2014, 07:26:29 AM
ok so I have no idea about my pants size for female pants. I have been buying tops and stuff online because I am far more comfortable buying stuff online at this point, and I can get some really good deals on ebay! The thing is that I can buy pants because I have no idea what size I am. In mens I wear 28-30 and my waist and hip measurements are 28-36. any advice? btw I am also pretty tall at 5'11

I wear 32-34 waist, and I'm 5'11-ish. I find 10s are usually loose, 8s usually fit ok and I can occasionally be comfortable in a 6.

What size should I be if I'm 5'5 29 waist and 35 hips

On ebay in Australia, alot of the bigger ebay stores for women actually have links or actual sizing charts in there advertisements. If what your looking at doesnt  have one google it etc. Basically go grab a tailors tape and for pants measure your inside leg, waist, and butt kind of thing and consult the charts. I did that with jeans and even shoes when I was first buying things online.
Another thing, buy something cheap if you can afford to, as a 'tester' even if you've messed up and it doesnt fit the great thing about ebay, just turn around and resell it. You cant really lose :)

https://www.jcrew.com/sizecharts/main.jsp?sizeChart=1,1
^an example of size charts(its metric, but you get the idea) and it converts to all sizes available worldwide. This is just a google result btw

I buy jeans from alloy online.  They are the bomb as I've a 37 inch inseam and miserable to find anywhere but a 7 for all mankind store which are 160, too much money.  You are tall so they would be great.  Ive worn them a long time andfthey wear excellent.

at 36 tall isnt really long enough I dont think.  I wear a 6...33 inch levis guy jeans fit loose, idk what works for you.

Quote from: Emily29 on July 20, 2014, 08:11:20 AM
What size should I be if I'm 5'5 29 waist and 35 hips

I'm roughly the same. I'm around a 5 or a 6.

I noticed that a lot of store sites have a size reference chart and on most sites I am a 6.  :icon_geekdance: :icon_woowoo:

shoe size is another thing what would mens 10-10 1/2 be

I wear a 9.5 men's and an 11 women's

Womens shoes are usually 2 sizes higher than mens. So if you're a 10, you'd be a 12 in womens (usually).

But womens shoes, like their clothes, vary in sizes. I have some size 4 jeans that fit, and some size 6 jeans that I have to jump my fat ass into. I also have some 7.5 shoes, and even a pair of 9s. I generally fit well into a size 8.

Time for a visit to Goodwill.  There you'll find thousands of pairs of women's pants in all sizes and styles, dirt cheap, and you can either try them on there (trust me, nobody cares - they've seen it all before) or buy a few pairs in various sizes and take them home to test.  A great way to figure the sizing thing out before you spend real money on new clothing.

While men's sizes seem fairly easy to predict, women's pant sizes are all over the place.  I no longer buy pants without putting them on first, because an 8 from one manufacturer seems to have absolutely no correlation with an 8 from another manufacturer.  It's like they roll a dice when figuring out what size to label their pants.

(As an aside, while I used to shop at Goodwill when just starting out, I still go there because my local has some awesome, like-new, branded jeans for $5-$10 per pair.  While much of the other clothing is rather dated and uncool, the jeans I can't speak highly enough about.  Well worth it.)

Quote from: amber roskamp on July 20, 2014, 07:38:56 AM
ok thanks I know that each store different...

This.

Every maker is VERY different, and you learn quickly what "vanity sizing" really means and what you wear in each line.  GAP runs smaller than most for example. Sizing reflects both waist and hip, and where the pants are supposed to fall on you. Some stores/brands carry multiple shaped pants, especially jeans -- straight, slightly curvy  and curvy are the usual.  These are based on hip to waist relationship, and vary themselves.  Then there is where they sit on your hips -- low, mid, etc. As with men's clothes, jeans and all other pants fit differently. Lastly, the material makes a difference, especially if you have stretchy denim.  I usually wear a 4 slightly curvy in jeans (and almost always in skirts), but often I need a 6 for other pants as they should not be as snug. ALSO: just make it complicated, some lines are shifting to a European-style sizing for jeans (and I don't mean UK, which numbers larger than the US does).  Calvin Klein, Banana Republic and others use it now, and I've seen it at department stores.

I don't where you are in HRT, but that DOES affect how you size pants as well. It's really a matter of experimenting, and I'd simply go to a store that carries what you want and try them. If you are just starting HRT, don't buy a whole lot as your body will be changing for a while.

With shoes, I agree that it's roughly 1.5 to 2 sizes up from the men's, however, you may want to also look at width (women's B are sometimes narrower than medium men's).  Your foot may also change with HRT as you lose muscle. In my case I lost a full size.  The easiest thing to do is go to a self-serve shoe store and use one of the foot measuring templates for women. No one will notice.  Finally, MANY shoes available use the UK or European sizing, even if they are labeled with US system. You'll probably want to check that too.

This all gets easier once you know what you wear with each brand, but even then it's not 100%.

You really have to go out and try on the clothing when it comes to women's wear

I have tried internet shopping but it more often than not ends up frustrating me enormously

Quote from: YinYanga on July 20, 2014, 02:57:54 PM
You really have to go out and try on the clothing when it comes to women's wear

I have tried internet shopping but it more often than not ends up frustrating me enormously

Yup. I never used a dressing room as a guy, but as a girl I need to with ALLL of my clothes (except tshirts)

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on July 20, 2014, 03:20:27 PM
Yup. I never used a dressing room as a guy, but as a girl I need to with ALLL of my clothes (except tshirts)

I tend to take a few sizes of one piece to the dressing room right away.. just to make sure hehe :P

Men's wear I did try out as well but was much easier to fit right away. Completing the Dull-Look in a minute was no hard feat!  ;D

Quote from: YinYanga on July 20, 2014, 03:25:07 PM
I tend to take a few sizes of one piece to the dressing room right away.. just to make sure hehe :P

Men's wear I did try out as well but was much easier to fit right away. Completing the Dull-Look in a minute was no hard feat!  ;D

Yeah well, it's easier to dress as a guy with guy clothes than it is to dress as a girl with the bodies we tend to have. Lord knows I fight with it too...

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on July 20, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
Yeah well, it's easier to dress as a guy with guy clothes than it is to dress as a girl with the bodies we tend to have. Lord knows I fight with it too...

Well I've always had a slender figure but I do see a little more curve and fat appearing now with HRT..Nothing troubling enough to start that dreaded thing called sports though ;D

HRT should have a "Free Pudding additive' disclaimer added haha

Most of my clothing came from my Ex strangely enough.

All of her clothing literally fits me, which i found to be odd since shes 5'5 and im 6ft tall...
My torso is a little longer then most guys though so my hips are lower. She used to tease me because a lot of her clothing fit better on me then on her.
Anyways i got lucky because most of mine were given to me.

I have gone to a lot of department stores to try on clothing, very odd at first and people do kinda stare... But it doesnt matter, a lot of them will never see you again AND most of the staff is helpful.
xD haha. Anyways... GL and ive never tried online shopping... I kinda want to try it but ive read so many horror stories over the years.

-maybe thrift stores?

I have the same issue. I usually buy online, and wasn't exactly sure of my size. But I've known 10 is to big for me. I assumed I was probably 7, and I have about the sizing as you say, so perhaps I was correct, and might even be able to get 6.

You don't have to pass as a female in order to shop in the women's section. You can select your clothes there and try them on in the men's fitting room if you are unable to pass well enough to use the women's fitting room.

I was a size 4 with a 27 inch waist and 34 inch hips but now my size 4 jeans seem to tight around my butt and hips. Though, I haven't gained an inch anywhere. Now, I think I'm more a size 6. I prefer Euro styles though and am a 27 in those sizes. As in, 27 inch waist. I have to by 6 medium or short since I have a long torso. Ugh. I did find a good site with great advice on how to dress for that shape. Generally, you want to wear short tops and nothing long that draws attention to an already long torso. And I have been doing it and I feel like I look so much better. My fave pair of BDG jeans are a 6 but the butt ripped along the back pocket lol I wear all skinny jeans.

Quote from: amber roskamp on July 20, 2014, 07:26:29 AM
ok so I have no idea about my pants size for female pants. I have been buying tops and stuff online because I am far more comfortable buying stuff online at this point, and I can get some really good deals on ebay! The thing is that I can buy pants because I have no idea what size I am. In mens I wear 28-30 and my waist and hip measurements are 28-36. any advice? btw I am also pretty tall at 5'11

I wear a 30-32 in male pants so I'm around a 10-11 in women's clothing. My shoe size is 10-10.5 so I wear an 11-12 woman's (I just bought a really cute pair of sandals today, 11-12). I'm, 5'9" and 162 lbs (I plan on dropping about another 12 lbs).

I wore 32x34 men's Levi's and size 8 pants fit me perfectly, the size 10's are just a bit loose.

My spouse gave me a pair of $300 size 10 jeans that were too short for her so I made some super cute short cut offs out of them :) you should have heard her scream, lol

Quote from: Michelle G on July 21, 2014, 01:01:00 AM
I wore 32x34 men's Levi's and size 8 pants fit me perfectly, the size 10's are just a bit loose.

My spouse gave me a pair of $300 size 10 jeans that were too short for her so I made some super cute short cut offs out of them :) you should have heard her scream, lol

I need to buy some girly pants but I just know I'll go through an uber-feminine phase of dresses and skirts. After a life time stuck in pants I'm wanting to get out of them as much as possible.

Just go to a store and try them on. You'd be surprised how many guys wear girl jeans. I've been wearing girl jeans for years, way before I transitioned too. Not once was I questioned or given any kind of look.

Quote from: Autumn on July 21, 2014, 02:42:33 AM
Just go to a store and try them on. You'd be surprised how many guys wear girl jeans. I've been wearing girl jeans for years, way before I transitioned too. Not once was I questioned or given any kind of look.

I really should do this, I know nobody really cares. for some reason I still get really anxious. I think im gonna have to bring somebody with me for encouragement lol

I wear a 10 pretty much across the board, OldNavy requires a belt on the waist.  American Eagle fits like a glove enough that the people in the store went "WOW!"  I was at a LGBT thrift shop, donating my old male clothes.
Sorry got off topic I wear a mens 33" pant, that translates to pretty much a womens 10.
Shoe size is mens 8.5, and I wear depending on shoe a womens 10-11.
Yes gone are the days of just grabbing the right size and knowing it will fit.  Get used to spending that extra time trying clothes on and have fun with it.

I you're covered on basic size, so I'll mention length. Women's pants aren't sold by length numbers, of course. They are just regular, petite or tall. I'm 5' 11", but because I'm long waisted I wear regular length women's pants just fine. If your legs are longish you'll need to to with a tall size, but it would probably be best to try on some to check.

I am a 38 in male (Australia) and size 18 is comfy for me.

I found Target is my friend... I can self checkout.  No issues with stares!

Lucky your target has self checkout; mine doesn't.

I actually got the courage to go to a forever 21 the other day, I was even willing to use the fitting room if it wasn't crowded... Sadly all the fitting rooms were closed for renovation.

My waist is between a 26 and 27 inch, and they measure jeans sizes by waist circumference so I thought fitting would be easy.

I got a 27 and a 26 and they both sorta fit, but are still pretty loose everywhere. Including the waist. There is at least an inch extra on the 26 (before they start to stretch)
I thought skinny jeans were supposed to be tight,  and sized small...

I figure they'll eventually fit better as HRT adds some weight so it wasn't a complete waste. Plus they work as regylar jeans for now.

Darn!
I bought a little stretch and room in mine- I remembered minorqback's warning about her new butt ripping clothes.

Amber:

Lane Bryant has size charts for everything.
For pants
1. select bottoms
2. select tall maybe petite
3. this screen will give you the option to look up a size.

if you know your waist in inches it will be easy.

thank you janet :). i'll have to check that out.

I cut up a pair of my old boy Levi's and made short cutoffs out of them, felt good to take scissors to those!

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg4%2FKR3259%2Fodds%2520n%2520ends%2F4A76F60D-3C0C-4A61-A81A-903A8E3D3744-3733-0000025232DD0B05.jpg&hash=ec225e37067092503cda3f579f4c90ab269837cc)

Women's Levi's 505 in size 10 long, they are low rise waist, love the way they fit :)

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Dont under stand most sizes to be honest. I fit in size 3 assuming i can find one thats long... Or a size 5 (depending on the cut)

And im by no means small. (though people always tell me i have a female body type) idk.