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Is any one aware off any impact the first has on the latter?  In this scenario, let's assume the THC has been extracted and combined with a butter, and then consumed on a breakfast bagel daily.. Hypothetically of course. 

http://www.healthcaremagic.com/premiumquestions/Does-THC-from-the-use-of-Cannabis-have-any-effect-on-HRT-for-pre-op-trans-male-to-female/50747

Apparently not. This is the internet and not a doctor office so take what you read with a grain of salt and ask your doctor.

My gf, also trans, smokes medicinal several times a day (note: weed is legal here). Anyway, she asked her doctor who said that there are no adverse side effects that he is aware of. She seems to be experiencing average results from the hrt as well.

Quote from: Brooke777 on July 27, 2014, 06:37:50 PM
My gf, also trans, smokes medicinal several times a day (note: weed is legal here). Anyway, she asked her doctor who said that there are no adverse side effects that he is aware of. She seems to be experiencing average results from the hrt as well.

Well, I don't know about THC if it is consumed any way other than smoking it. But I've always heard that smoking, in general, is what is bad when taking HRT. I used to smoke back in the day and had no problems. But I kicked the sticky icky to the curb a long time ago. I never bothered with cigs.

I know they say smoking is usually bad for those of us on hrt, but I'm assuming that is because of the tobacco.  Never heard anything explicitly about pot being bad specifically for those on hrt. 

Quote from: learningtolive on July 27, 2014, 06:44:58 PM
I know they say smoking is usually bad for those of us on hrt, but I'm assuming that is because of the tobacco.  Never heard anything explicitly about pot being bad specifically for those on hrt.

Well, it would seem to me that smoking any plant wouldn't be a good idea if they tell not to smoke while on HRT. Sure, they put all kinds of additives in the tobacco to make it more addictive, but still...smoking anything wouldn't seem like a good idea. Yeah, I did it for a long time, but I only started because the GID totally sucked. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't have smoked or drank.

I would be much more concerned about a random drug test at work.  :-\

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on July 27, 2014, 06:53:40 PM
I would be much more concerned about a random drug test at work.  :-\

Well, I think those things are another thing altogether. I think as long as you don't come to work under the influence and don't hurt yourself on the job. I don't think it's the employer's business what you do off the clock.

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on July 27, 2014, 07:03:00 PM
Well, I think those things are another thing altogether. I think as long as you don't come to work under the influence and don't hurt yourself on the job. I don't think it's the employer's business what you do off the clock.

If you operate equipment of any kind on your job, have an accident and test positive for THC it is.  :)

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on July 27, 2014, 07:08:03 PM
If you operate equipment of any kind on your job, have an accident and test positive for THC it is.  :)

Yeah, but it's not that simple. Unless someone comes in to work and they are totally baked, chances are nothing is going to happen. Plus, THC stays in your system for a long enough time, the boss wouldn't know if the person smoked that morning before work or if they did on a day off the week before. That's why I think the idea of testing someone no matter what is messed up.

It is usually the companies insurance carrier that determines drug testing in work place accidents. It doesn't matter how much is present, any detectable amount could cost your job and maybe even a judgment against you for damaging company equipment also possibly leading to legal charges of operating while intoxicated. I am not saying people can't do what they want to. I am just saying there could be consequences, nothing more.  :)

I didn't know that. I assumed that was up to the boss.

Some companies have an option, but most do not. They have to meet the carriers policy and procedures. I remember one time the age for operating ambulances here was raised from 18 to 21. It was not the service that did it, but the insurance carrier would not write a policy if the did not increase it. It is really hard to find ambulance insurers so they raised the age.

Sorry for the thread hijack! You think I would know better!  ::)

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on July 27, 2014, 07:15:31 PM
Yeah, but it's not that simple. Unless someone comes in to work and they are totally baked, chances are nothing is going to happen.

This isn't quite true.

http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/bandopubs/cannfly/cannfly.html

If you don't want to read it, this study shows that there were detrimental effects measured in pilots well more than a day after consuming cannibis, even when they reported being unaware of any impairment, themselves.

There's really not a whole lot of studies published on the effects of THC, since serious research on the subject is a relatively recent trend. So, just because your doctor isn't aware of what the negative effects might be, that doesn't necessarily mean there are no ill effects. I get the appeal of the stuff, since I did a lot of it when I was younger. But why even risk it, when you're going through something as important to you as HRT?

Quote from: Jera on July 27, 2014, 07:53:57 PM
But why even risk it, when you're going through something as important to you as HRT?

Well, in my case, it was something that had become a habit. But I dropped it a few years ago.

Quote from: Brooke777 on July 27, 2014, 06:37:50 PM
My gf, also trans, smokes medicinal several times a day (note: weed is legal here). Anyway, she asked her doctor who said that there are no adverse side effects that he is aware of. She seems to be experiencing average results from the hrt as well.

This is the type answer I was looking for d:

Lol and just because you're paranoid, doesn't meant that "they" aren't watching d:
Discretion is key  :angel:

I have a prescription for the plant, but I rarely use it since HRT, because the symptoms I was treating have greatly reduced, and my budgetary needs have shifted towards makeup and wardrobe.

Still, I notice no adverse effects. In fact, I often have felt a bit more feminine while buzzed. The introspection it can induce has seemed quite helpful at times. Nothing worth risking a job over though.

Quote from: Tori on July 28, 2014, 10:48:58 AM
Nothing worth risking a job over though.

This!!!  Some places have a zero tolerance policy so that if you are randomly tested and there is ANY trace of THC in your system you are out the door.  Some even take the same stance on nicotine - so one cannot smoke even on their own time.  That is for health insurance.

As another poster said - why risk it if you are on HRT and the outcome of the HRT is something you REALLY want?


Erin

I've been using weed for over 20yrs, I wouldn't normaly comment on people using weed whilst transitioning as I don't want to encourage anyone to take this up but as the OP has already admitted using it i'll add my comment.
Several years ago I gave up smoking, during this time I still used weed but through a vapouriser. There is no smoke generated & when I attended my last quit smoking clinic I had half a dozen vapes first, my breath test gave the same reading as if i'd walked along a busy main road (which I just had).
A vapouriser is much healthier than smoking BUT i've seen no conclusive proof of how THC effects HRT (I would assume that eating it would have much the same effect)

Quote from: ErinWDK on July 28, 2014, 11:18:05 AM
This!!!  Some places have a zero tolerance policy so that if you are randomly tested and there is ANY trace of THC in your system you are out the door.  Some even take the same stance on nicotine - so one cannot smoke even on their own time.  That is for health insurance.

As another poster said - why risk it if you are on HRT and the outcome of the HRT is something you REALLY want?


Erin

Why risk it, how does one have control of the other?  Please note this was a hypothetical question.  I have been diagnosed with young onset of Parkinson's disease and the medicine I currently take for it has very unpleasant side effects.  THC helps the brain with dopamine receptors that control movement/coordination w/ zero negative side effects, and 70% cheaper.  That's why I would risk it.  Your situation may vary. ^_^

Not much relevant info in the medical databases, however, a recent report indicates that there may be some chemicals in the smoke of marihuana that may be estrogenic...

I would advice against smoking pot as not only is illegal but marihuana smoke has more than double the number of cancer causing agents than cigarettes...

Dr. Peky

Quote from: peky on July 28, 2014, 05:53:56 PM
Not much relevant info in the medical databases, however, a recent report indicates that there may be some chemicals in the smoke of marihuana that may be estrogenic...

I would advice against smoking pot as not only is illegal but marihuana smoke has more than double the number of cancer causing agents than cigarettes...

Dr. Peky

Yeah, but breathing the outdoor air is just as bad. Meh...you die either way.

Quote from: peky on July 28, 2014, 05:53:56 PM
Not much relevant info in the medical databases, however, a recent report indicates that there may be some chemicals in the smoke of marihuana that may be estrogenic...

I would advice against smoking pot as not only is illegal but marihuana smoke has more than double the number of cancer causing agents than cigarettes...

Dr. Peky

The OP stated that Canna butter was being used, this is the mixing of Cannabis with butter (hence the name), it is taken oraly & this negates the risk of cancer caused by smoking.
Using a vapouriser as I sometimes do does not generate smoke & is less damaging than breathing in traffic fumes whilst walking next to a busy road.

THC has been proven to be very effective in the treatment of Parkinsons disease so I understand why the OP would ask the question about THC effecting HRT.
I use it as it helps to dull the constant itching of my skin without the drowsiness that comes from the very heavy doses of anti-histamines that I have to take to get the same reduction in itching so i'm also very interested in the effect of THC on HRT.

We all know the risk of smoking but this topic isn't about smoking. Most people are aware that if you smoke green then there is a very high chance that you'll inhale deeper thus causing more damage, this is why i've returned to the much healthier method of vapourisers.

Quote from: Madeline182 on July 28, 2014, 04:25:30 PM
Why risk it, how does one have control of the other?  Please note this was a hypothetical question.  I have been diagnosed with young onset of Parkinson's disease and the medicine I currently take for it has very unpleasant side effects.  THC helps the brain with dopamine receptors that control movement/coordination w/ zero negative side effects, and 70% cheaper.  That's why I would risk it.  Your situation may vary. ^_^

OK, you intend to use THC for medicinal purposes rather than recreational.  That is a bit different issue and was not clear in the initial post.  You have to do what you have to do.

I am an old stick in the mud and have a really negative reation to THC so my opinions and statements sort of reflect who I am and where I have been.  Sorry for my bit of a rant - you sort of need to disregard this old girl.


Erin

In places where pot is legal for recreational use, I would assume it has the same stipulations as alcohol and you wouldn't show up drunk. I am assuming if the employer does random drug test that there is leeway to how much is in your system. After all it is just as legal in two states for recreational use just as alcohol is. For states that prescribe it for medicinal use, you have to have a prescription and I really don't know how employers react with THC showing up on random drug tests.

The federal government does not recognize either the recreational legalization or medicinal legalization. So if your job subjects you to federal guidelines and laws and regulations, THC showing up on randoms over the threshold is a no no, prescription or if you live in a state it is legal. People that live in Colorado and Washington state if they drive trucks, fly planes, run trains, work at the post office and so on it is still illegal to use. State workers in the states where it is legal, I really don't know. Unless you are politician and then you have no rules to go by. ::) Also if you are caught with it in a national park say in Washington state by a park ranger, you can be busted for posession because that national park is actually federal government land.

I know I hijacked the thread a little but all of what I said may keep people out of trouble.