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 I wanna play so bad and it bothers me so much especially know because its football season and everyones hype about it. This is one of the reasons I hate being a trans male and wanna be a normal male so I can play the sports I want including basketball this is stupid and it sucks >:(

legally, you can. work your @$$ off and try to make a team, bro. if you don't make it, at least you were there and you tried. that'll feel good.

Quote from: KamTheMan on August 29, 2014, 07:22:57 PM
legally, you can. work your @$$ off and try to make a team, bro. if you don't make it, at least you were there and you tried. that'll feel good.

Try outs are over though and this is my last year plus I feel like I'd look stupid if I tried out, My dad said I could but my mom won't allow it.

Quote from: Brandon on August 29, 2014, 07:26:56 PM
Try outs are over though and this is my last year plus I feel like I'd look stupid if I tried out, My dad said I could but my mom won't allow it.

That sucks about your mom.  Yes, the school has to allow you to "try out" unless there is a female football team.

I sort of know how you feel. Unfortunatly I'm home schooled...but I have friends who are in school and one of them is on the team. So yeah it sucks bad.
The worst part is that there's a female on the team and even if I did go to the school my mom would not let me join. She even told me "don't even think about it".
Maybe there's other things you can try to join. (I don't know much about the school system)
Is there other sports you can join?maybe basketball or the flag team.

Quote from: AquaWhatever on August 30, 2014, 07:13:05 PM
I sort of know how you feel. Unfortunatly I'm home schooled...but I have friends who are in school and one of them is on the team. So yeah it sucks bad.
The worst part is that there's a female on the team and even if I did go to the school my mom would not let me join. She even told me "don't even think about it".
Maybe there's other things you can try to join. (I don't know much about the school system)
Is there other sports you can join?maybe basketball or the flag team.

We don't have a flag team plus I am not so sure if I would want to, I do like basketball but I wanna play with what team I belong on which is th males team.

I'm too old to feel that way now, but I remember hating that soo bad :P I feel for you man.

Quote from: christopher on August 30, 2014, 10:01:02 PM
I'm too old to feel that way now, but I remember hating that soo bad :P I feel for you man.

Yea...  its probaly gonna get worse when school starts.

What position would you play if you could?

Quote from: christopher on August 30, 2014, 10:47:56 PM
What position would you play if you could?

I'd probaly play HB, Wide reciever or even running back, I am really good at those positions. Just wish I could show it on the field.

What part of the country do you live in? I'm assuming you're in the US so if you're not, sorry.

I wrestled in highschool and I was the only "girl" on the team. I just went to the coach and explained that I wanted to participate and after he ran me through some gym stuff he gave me a shot. Not everywhere in the us will make you play on a "girl" team. Would this be an option for sports where you are?

Quote from: Ayden on August 31, 2014, 04:40:27 AM
What part of the country do you live in? I'm assuming you're in the US so if you're not, sorry.

I wrestled in highschool and I was the only "girl" on the team. I just went to the coach and explained that I wanted to participate and after he ran me through some gym stuff he gave me a shot. Not everywhere in the us will make you play on a "girl" team. Would this be an option for sports where you are?

He said he mom wouldn't let him try out.

Quote from: Brett on August 31, 2014, 08:51:14 AM
He said he mom wouldn't let him try out.

I think he means basketball I'd have to see though.

Quote from: Ayden on August 31, 2014, 04:40:27 AM
What part of the country do you live in? I'm assuming you're in the US so if you're not, sorry.

I wrestled in highschool and I was the only "girl" on the team. I just went to the coach and explained that I wanted to participate and after he ran me through some gym stuff he gave me a shot. Not everywhere in the us will make you play on a "girl" team. Would this be an option for sports where you are?

Yes I live in the U.S, I'd have to check with the school, Because all the principles and such know already.

Quote from: Brandon on August 31, 2014, 09:06:52 AM
I think he means basketball I'd have to see though.

Oh, I see, sorry.  Yeah, that would be cool if they would let you try out with the guys.  From what you have said the teachers and administration is cool with you there, so I would say for sure give it a shot.

Quote from: Brett on August 31, 2014, 09:13:22 AM
Oh, I see, sorry.  Yeah, that would be cool if they would let you try out with the guys.  From what you have said the teachers and administration is cool with you there, so I would say for sure give it a shot.

Yea thats why I am alittle more confident with basketball rather than football. Plus I am pretty much as fast as all the other guys and uo to there speed so it shouldn't be a problem really. I'll have to see though.

Oh wow, that brings back memories. I remember doing P.E in school and I'd always want to be with the girls and not the boys. :( Getting changed in a room full of guys was absolutely terrifying... I didn't know I was trans then but wow did I hate it. I used to look at all the girls and I'd get so envious for some reason. Ahh! I wish I could go back in time but as a biological female. Blah. :\ I'm sorry you feel this way, I think you should definitely give it a go next time!

Quote from: Valleyrie on August 31, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Oh wow, that brings back memories. I remember doing P.E in school and I'd always want to be with the girls and not the boys. :( Getting changed in a room full of guys was absolutely terrifying... I didn't know I was trans then but wow did I hate it. I used to look at all the girls and I'd get so envious for some reason. Ahh! I wish I could go back in time but as a biological female. Blah. :\ I'm sorry you feel this way, I think you should definitely give a go next time!

Really? Haha I used to feel that way about gym I hated going into the locker rooms and at that time the administrators really didn't know I was trans only the guidance counselor did, So I didn't think about asking if I could switch, But I'd get glared at by the girls and this is when I had braids and got my haurcut so I can only imagine what it would be like know.. But I'll definately give basketball a go.

I always wanted to play football or hockey but at 5'1" that's basically never going to happen XD I can wish all I want though...

Quote from: CursedFireDean on August 31, 2014, 12:52:23 PM
I always wanted to play football or hockey but at 5'1" that's basically never going to happen XD I can wish all I want though...

Well I am 5'4 but I know 2 guys who were on the football team who were my exact height and on the basketball team.

Quote from: Brandon on August 31, 2014, 09:06:52 AM
I think he means basketball I'd have to see though.

Sorry, I should have clarified. Yeah, I was thinking basketball. I hear ya on wanting to play sports, I was really into playing basketball and wrestling when I was in high school. I wasn't fast enough to play basketball for the school team, but I did enjoy it. It couldn't hurt to ask, since your school seems pretty cool with everything.

Quote from: Brandon on August 31, 2014, 01:43:04 PM
Well I am 5'4 but I know 2 guys who were on the football team who were my exact height and on the basketball team.

That's really cool, the only guys I've seen playing basketball have been really tall. I think I've seen a few guys who were like 5'6" or 5'7" playing football, 5'4" is even cooler to hear. I think the only tall person's sport I've ever seen people about 5'4" or shorter in is volleyball, but that's because there's a position that's better for short people than tall people, so it's awesome that there are short guys playing those sports.

Yes, I think title 9 makes it so you would have be able to qualify for football or any other thing you are able to play. Of course teams and parents might not see it this way. :}  Being an adult and seeing the grim, I should say football is a horrible sport which causes a lot of brain injuries. I would not allow a cis boy son of mine (if I had one) to play. I'd rather they box tbh. However, I realize that might not be the most empathetic thing to say. So I'll also say it sucks! You could try working for another sport which might help you out a bit.

I know a trans boy who got on boy's soccer by fighting the local regs for the club. So it is doable (fighting these things). Might be more challenging than the sport though.

--Jay

I always wanted to play baseball. Everyone told me to try out for the softball team, and I was like no way! Sports seasons can totally suck for dysphoria & such.

Geez I wish I could play football. Except I'm not even on T or anything yet :( ugh. I'm good on my feet and can catch and hold a football like my life depended on it and I'm a sprinter so probably wide receiver is my position of choice. It sucks a lot cause I play football with the guys in gym class and we tackle and everything. They know I'm small but sturdy and I can get your butt on the ground and don't mind being knocked around. The guys know me and they know how I feel so they normally don't let "girls" play but I've been considered one of them since early last year so at least I get a taste of football in gym class. The best advice I can suggest: play football with actual football players at the very least. It's not the same but it's something you know?

If you are legally female and there is no women's football team at your school, the school has to allow you to try out for the men's football team, IF the school is one that receives federal financial assistance (all public and charter schools.  I don't know if private schools get any federal funding).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_IX#Impact_on_female_athletics

Now, go kick some butt!   ;D

Quote from: LatrellHK on September 02, 2014, 09:50:18 AM
Geez I wish I could play football. Except I'm not even on T or anything yet :( ugh. I'm good on my feet and can catch and hold a football like my life depended on it and I'm a sprinter so probably wide receiver is my position of choice. It sucks a lot cause I play football with the guys in gym class and we tackle and everything. They know I'm small but sturdy and I can get your butt on the ground and don't mind being knocked around. The guys know me and they know how I feel so they normally don't let "girls" play but I've been considered one of them since early last year so at least I get a taste of football in gym class. The best advice I can suggest: play football with actual football players at the very least. It's not the same but it's something you know?

My understanding of Title IX as well. It is doable and has been done (afaik only public schools and not sure re Brandon here). I think you'd have to start up way earlier than the season and work your butt off (which you seem way capable of). Otoh, I believe that just because this is the law doesn't mean they wouldn't need to be forced to follow it. I think you'd have a harder time fighting this than actually playing tbh. But it has been done. Playing as a male in a sport that has a female team is harder especially without legal status. There are states that will allow this but I didn't get the idea that you were in one of these (I think basically 18 states have some kind of laws on gender identity discrimination. But to what extent they have to do with public schools is up to question according to a lawyer friend of mine.) Good luck to you. I recall standing around watching the Little League team when I was 10ish (had my pants pinned up like a fly).

--Jay

Quote from: Brett on September 02, 2014, 01:39:40 PM
If you are legally female and there is no women's football team at your school, the school has to allow you to try out for the men's football team, IF the school is one that receives federal financial assistance (all public and charter schools.  I don't know if private schools get any federal funding).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_IX#Impact_on_female_athletics

Now, go kick some butt!   ;D

If only I knew this sooner! I'd pass this along to other transgenders if I come across someone like me. I say this because football season has begun and tryouts are over. You start early. But it's never too late for wrestling. Trust me if there's one thing I'm good at it's hurting you and getting out of tight situations, literally. I don't know how my body does it but I become amazingly flexible when pinned down and trying to escape! :D Otherwise I have a steel hand grip and, as my friends said, die and still hold on like it's nothing 

Quote from: LatrellHK on September 02, 2014, 09:36:00 PM
If only I knew this sooner! I'd pass this along to other transgenders if I come across someone like me. I say this because football season has begun and tryouts are over. You start early. But it's never too late for wrestling. Trust me if there's one thing I'm good at it's hurting you and getting out of tight situations, literally. I don't know how my body does it but I become amazingly flexible when pinned down and trying to escape! :D Otherwise I have a steel hand grip and, as my friends said, die and still hold on like it's nothing

There have been a couple of females in my area who have wrestled with the boys since there isn't a female team.  They have done really well.  I believe there have been some success nationally, as well, for reasons you have mentioned (flexibility).  Regardless if you identify male or female, the reality is that they can't stop a female bodied person from trying out with the men's team, if there is no female team.  Good luck to you!

Quote from: LatrellHK on September 02, 2014, 09:50:18 AM
Geez I wish I could play football. Except I'm not even on T or anything yet :( ugh. I'm good on my feet and can catch and hold a football like my life depended on it and I'm a sprinter so probably wide receiver is my position of choice. It sucks a lot cause I play football with the guys in gym class and we tackle and everything. They know I'm small but sturdy and I can get your butt on the ground and don't mind being knocked around. The guys know me and they know how I feel so they normally don't let "girls" play but I've been considered one of them since early last year so at least I get a taste of football in gym class. The best advice I can suggest: play football with actual football players at the very least. It's not the same but it's something you know?

I have done that already, I have been doing that since I was about 9 years old up in till know. But its getting worse since every friday there is game and they wear their football jerseys.

Quote from: LatrellHK on September 02, 2014, 09:36:00 PM
If only I knew this sooner! I'd pass this along to other transgenders if I come across someone like me. I say this because football season has begun and tryouts are over. You start early. But it's never too late for wrestling. Trust me if there's one thing I'm good at it's hurting you and getting out of tight situations, literally. I don't know how my body does it but I become amazingly flexible when pinned down and trying to escape! :D Otherwise I have a steel hand grip and, as my friends said, die and still hold on like it's nothing

I am a Hooper, so that comes second ball is life for me.

Ugh I suck at basketball. My mom was good at it and probably cause shes an almost 6ft giant :laugh:. Nah I got my dads size and frame. Only thing I'm good at in basketball is moving the ball across the court super fast.
Now soccer is another sport I am good at, only as goalie however! I can easy block and kick far across the field. Now according to some guys I talk to, the only reason I am good at goalie is because "you don't like balls getting in your net."  :D Made me laugh a lot when they announced that to me, I couldn't help it.
Now on to the actual topic, my school recently came up with a powderpuff thing. Now while EVERYONE is telling me to go out for it, I can't. I'm sorry but no way it hell am I playing on it if tackling is NOT allowed. Come on! I love to tackle, I ain't strong, but I grab legs and hold. I can't do that! I also get aggressive so tackling is a great release. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there's powderpuff and all cause that means there's a girls team at the high school, but no tackling is simply a no go. I'm too aggressive for powderpuff.

Quote from: LatrellHK on September 15, 2014, 01:02:41 PM
Ugh I suck at basketball. My mom was good at it and probably cause shes an almost 6ft giant :laugh:. Nah I got my dads size and frame. Only thing I'm good at in basketball is moving the ball across the court super fast.
Now soccer is another sport I am good at, only as goalie however! I can easy block and kick far across the field. Now according to some guys I talk to, the only reason I am good at goalie is because "you don't like balls getting in your net."  :D Made me laugh a lot when they announced that to me, I couldn't help it.
Now on to the actual topic, my school recently came up with a powderpuff thing. Now while EVERYONE is telling me to go out for it, I can't. I'm sorry but no way it hell am I playing on it if tackling is NOT allowed. Come on! I love to tackle, I ain't strong, but I grab legs and hold. I can't do that! I also get aggressive so tackling is a great release. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there's powderpuff and all cause that means there's a girls team at the high school, but no tackling is simply a no go. I'm too aggressive for powderpuff.

Yea basketball and football have been my game since I was alittle boy my dad use to take me out at like 5 years old and teach me how to play. They have a powder puff team at my school to but theres no way in hell a girl would want me to play powderpuff not even my school in general, Its not only that I am to agressive its also because I am built up muscle wise and could hurt you if you got me to that level.

Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2014, 02:38:09 PM

Yea basketball and football have been my game since I was alittle boy my dad use to take me out at like 5 years old and teach me how to play. They have a powder puff team at my school to but theres no way in hell a girl would want me to play powderpuff not even my school in general, Its not only that I am to agressive its also because I am built up muscle wise and could hurt you if you got me to that level.

Exactly what I'm saying. My friend just texted me, 'you should join! We need someone strong ;) please' I text back, 'wanna see a girl die?'
Literally, WAY too aggreesive someone WILL get killed or hurt. I played with guys too much to know how to cool back and not be rough.

Quote from: LatrellHK on September 15, 2014, 06:57:59 PM
Exactly what I'm saying. My friend just texted me, 'you should join! We need someone strong ;) please' I text back, 'wanna see a girl die?'
Literally, WAY too aggreesive someone WILL get killed or hurt. I played with guys too much to know how to cool back and not be rough.

No girl has ever asked me there too scared, plus they know I am a boy. Lol besides I hate flag football, everytime me and the guys play in gym class girls get scared because it gets ruff. I remember I scored all the touch downs practically for gym class we one almost every game I got hops and everything I can get up there and intercept you, I did that on a girl once and she ran and let me get it.

Another option might be for you to find some sort of co-ed league outside of school or all male if you prefer. I just remember not recognizing my trans identity in junior/high school but being really uncomfortable in all female social settings so rather than try out for my home school's ladies soccer team (I went to a charter school that didn't allow UIL sports) I just went the co-ed route and still had a blast.