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Title: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 02, 2014, 06:14:01 PM
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 02, 2014, 06:14:01 PM
Had my first appointment. He asked some "gatekeeper" questions. I started getting nervous.
Then he felt me up, tits and naughtybits. Didn't even buy me dinner first!
Talked about expectations. Gave me scripts for low dose estradiol and spirolactone. Told me to see the lab for baseline T levels and to be back in 3 months.
Best of all, my insurance covered the scripts. I wasn't sure it would.
Then he felt me up, tits and naughtybits. Didn't even buy me dinner first!
Talked about expectations. Gave me scripts for low dose estradiol and spirolactone. Told me to see the lab for baseline T levels and to be back in 3 months.
Best of all, my insurance covered the scripts. I wasn't sure it would.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: alabamagirl on September 02, 2014, 06:17:19 PM
Post by: alabamagirl on September 02, 2014, 06:17:19 PM
Quote from: Dee Walker on September 02, 2014, 06:14:01 PM
Had my first appointment. He asked some "gatekeeper" questions. I started getting nervous.
Then he felt me up, tits and naughtybits. Didn't even buy me dinner first!
Talked about expectations. Gave me scripts for low dose estradiol and spirolactone. Told me to see the lab for baseline T levels and to be back in 3 months.
Best of all, my insurance covered the scripts. I wasn't sure it would.
Eek! They do that? Why?
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Danielle79 on September 02, 2014, 07:30:25 PM
Post by: Danielle79 on September 02, 2014, 07:30:25 PM
Quote from: Dee Walker on September 02, 2014, 06:14:01 PM
Then he felt me up, tits and naughtybits. Didn't even buy me dinner first!
Yeah, mine didn't do that. But she did take a look at my chest and exclaim, "Boy, you're hairy!" Thanks Doc, really appreciated that. :-\
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 02, 2014, 07:40:58 PM
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 02, 2014, 07:40:58 PM
I shaved yesterday so no hair comments. I think the other is because I told him I had gynecomastia at 11 and symptoms of low testosterone for the last ten years. Hope this comes out OK. I took my first spiro and E doses 15 minutes ago.
I feel like I do when I accidentally drink soy milk, without the itching and sneezing. Wonder how long this will last?
I feel like I do when I accidentally drink soy milk, without the itching and sneezing. Wonder how long this will last?
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 02, 2014, 07:43:41 PM
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 02, 2014, 07:43:41 PM
Sorry, Tapatalk stuttered.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Jessica Merriman on September 02, 2014, 07:45:25 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on September 02, 2014, 07:45:25 PM
Quote from: Pikachu on September 02, 2014, 06:17:19 PMIt is just part of the medical exam to see if there are any problems such as masses in the breast or testicular areas. It is also a baseline of sorts to record physical development once you are on HRT. :)
Eek! They do that? Why?
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Danielle79 on September 02, 2014, 08:08:10 PM
Post by: Danielle79 on September 02, 2014, 08:08:10 PM
That's interesting, because I had gynecomastia as a teenager, too, and still have it to a certain degree (I guess it's not technically gynecomastia at this point). She did comment on that, but she didn't feel for masses. As for my other parts, I don't think she checked because I am already under the care of a urologist because of infertility (well, almost infertility, still had barely enough to do IVF) and testicular microlithiasis. My testosterone has always been in the normal male range, however (hopefully the spiro will change that soon). My body doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Newgirl Dani on September 03, 2014, 10:06:41 AM
Post by: Newgirl Dani on September 03, 2014, 10:06:41 AM
Told me to see the lab for baseline T levels
Gotta ask: Does this mean your Dr. did not do a complete blood workup prior to writting the script? This would have given the baseline T level. Dani
Gotta ask: Does this mean your Dr. did not do a complete blood workup prior to writting the script? This would have given the baseline T level. Dani
Title: Re: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 03, 2014, 11:10:45 AM
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 03, 2014, 11:10:45 AM
Quote from: Newgirl Dani on September 03, 2014, 10:06:41 AMExactly so. This doctor has been working with trans people for a good long time. I imagine he thought that a dose or two of Spiro would do no harm in the unlikely possibility that my T is already way low.
Told me to see the lab for baseline T levels
Gotta ask: Does this mean your Dr. did not do a complete blood workup prior to writting the script? This would have given the baseline T level. Dani
I feel great today, BTW, after two doses of spiro and one of estradiol. 15 hours after E I redeveloped some tension in my jaw, but I'm still feeling calm, relaxed and competent. Even my body dysphoria issues aren't a big deal today. I have to say he was probably right. Correction, BTW, I looked it up. I'm on low to moderate E.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Shantel on September 03, 2014, 11:22:32 AM
Post by: Shantel on September 03, 2014, 11:22:32 AM
I have my annual endocrine visit next month. The doc will ask me if I've changed my mind and will actually become a woman since I have some of those physical attributes. He can't seem to wrap his mind around the concept "non-binary." Then one of his sweet little female associates going through her internship will want to do a breast exam on me, I don't submit to that and usually say, "I get to do yours first," that puts a crimp in that idea rather abruptly. After that I'll be prescribed another years worth of Climera patches. Bada bing and I'm good to go.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Brenda E on September 05, 2014, 06:39:11 PM
Post by: Brenda E on September 05, 2014, 06:39:11 PM
Quote from: Dee Walker on September 02, 2014, 06:14:01 PM
Then he felt me up, tits and naughtybits. Didn't even buy me dinner first!
This had me giggling. :)
Mine took the liberty of a prostate exam too, so you got off lightly with just the groping.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Shantel on September 05, 2014, 07:14:35 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 05, 2014, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Brenda E on September 05, 2014, 06:39:11 PM
This had me giggling. :)
Mine took the liberty of a prostate exam too, so you got off lightly with just the groping.
Ugh the finger wave, I hate that! My healthcare provider is a pretty female doctor too, I feel so embarrassed and actually apologize to her for having to do that. She says, "No biggie, it's part of the program honey."
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Ltl89 on September 05, 2014, 08:50:40 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on September 05, 2014, 08:50:40 PM
Just wanted to note that breast exams are important to have. Breast cancer is a very serious illness that effect many women (my aunt was just diagnosed with it and my grand mother died cause of it). While it's irritating to show my chest to doctors, I realize it's important. Ever since I started hrt, breast cancer has been one of my biggest concerns and something I'm very aware of.
Anyway, glad to hear you got your start op, especially since you got insurance to cover it, lol. That helps a lot.
Anyway, glad to hear you got your start op, especially since you got insurance to cover it, lol. That helps a lot.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 05, 2014, 09:01:47 PM
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 05, 2014, 09:01:47 PM
This was the third evening taking E. Each has been different.
First night I was giddy for 1/2 an hour.
Second night dysphoria came crashing back an hour before the dose
Third night, a little dizziness, also ate a Godiva truffle. Damn that is good in the first flush of E.
Tonight I was dizzy for an hour. I think because I take the spiro with it and I was a bit dehydrated.
Wonder what tomorrow will be like?
First night I was giddy for 1/2 an hour.
Second night dysphoria came crashing back an hour before the dose
Third night, a little dizziness, also ate a Godiva truffle. Damn that is good in the first flush of E.
Tonight I was dizzy for an hour. I think because I take the spiro with it and I was a bit dehydrated.
Wonder what tomorrow will be like?
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Brenda E on September 06, 2014, 01:40:03 AM
Post by: Brenda E on September 06, 2014, 01:40:03 AM
Quote from: Dee Walker on September 05, 2014, 09:01:47 PM
Wonder what tomorrow will be like?
No idea, but I can guarantee it'll get better and better and better...;)
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Ms Grace on September 06, 2014, 03:32:49 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on September 06, 2014, 03:32:49 AM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on September 02, 2014, 07:45:25 PMQuote from: Pikachu on September 02, 2014, 06:17:19 PMIt is just part of the medical exam to see if there are any problems such as masses in the breast or testicular areas. It is also a baseline of sorts to record physical development once you are on HRT. :)
Eek! They do that? Why?
They also want to see how big the testes are. My endo had something that kind of looked like crazy rosary beads (an orcidometer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchidometer)) to compare against. Presumably the bigger the testes the greater the testosterone factory? Haven't got a clue about that one.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 06, 2014, 07:51:27 AM
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 06, 2014, 07:51:27 AM
Agree about the testes measurement. Oh, and I got the results of the baseline back, 203. All the stress T was causing me and my level was so low I was practically sterile. I also wanted to comment about Wednesday night, when the dysphoria crashed back I felt like my heart would explode. I'm sure it was no worse than it had been, but it's like when you have a body pain. Aspirin or whatever takes it away, but when it wears off the pain comes back the same. but feeling worse than before. I think I could only stand it before because I didn't know there was an alternative. I had forgotten it was there. Never going back!
Are these reports useful or am I just setting people up to expect what I felt? I'm sure this is different for everybody.
Are these reports useful or am I just setting people up to expect what I felt? I'm sure this is different for everybody.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Ltl89 on September 06, 2014, 08:19:50 AM
Post by: Ltl89 on September 06, 2014, 08:19:50 AM
Quote from: Dee Walker on September 06, 2014, 07:51:27 AM
Agree about the testes measurement. Oh, and I got the results of the baseline back, 203. All the stress T was causing me and my level was so low I was practically sterile. I also wanted to comment about Wednesday night, when the dysphoria crashed back I felt like my heart would explode. I'm sure it was no worse than it had been, but it's like when you have a body pain. Aspirin or whatever takes it away, but when it wears off the pain comes back the same. but feeling worse than before. I think I could only stand it before because I didn't know there was an alternative. I had forgotten it was there. Never going back!
Are these reports useful or am I just setting people up to expect what I felt? I'm sure this is different for everybody.
While it's different for everybody, I think it's important to share your experience if you want to. Sometimes we need to talk about this stuff and it also does help other people out there that are about to start. It gives an idea about the potential experience . I know I definitely read threads ike this before I started. Share what you want and feel comfortable to share.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Rachel on September 06, 2014, 09:13:48 PM
Post by: Rachel on September 06, 2014, 09:13:48 PM
Dee, I think the posts are important too and congratulations!
Dysphoria is hell. Wait till the calm hits. I never experienced calm till hrt.
Dysphoria is hell. Wait till the calm hits. I never experienced calm till hrt.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 08, 2014, 09:44:56 AM
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 08, 2014, 09:44:56 AM
Quote from: Cynthia Michelle on September 06, 2014, 09:13:48 PM
Dee, I think the posts are important too and congratulations!
Dysphoria is hell. Wait till the calm hits. I never experienced calm till hrt.
Nope, not gonna wait. ;) The calm hit a half hour after the first dose. Mostly had it since. Finding it difficult to be sure when I'm stressed now, but I'm learning. That's one sensation that's subtle, thank goodness!
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: EllieM on September 08, 2014, 10:45:38 AM
Post by: EllieM on September 08, 2014, 10:45:38 AM
Good on ya, Dee... or should I say good in ya ;)
It's funny how that works... I felt sooo much better about an hour after my first dose. Then came the emotional roller coaster, then came (not Mal Reynold's ship) serenity...
My next endo visit is in two days. He does the blood work there so it's one stop shopping, all fully covered by OHIP. No palpating, he pretty much leaves that up to my family doc, but he does interview me concerning pain or anything unusual that might indicate a problem.
It's funny how that works... I felt sooo much better about an hour after my first dose. Then came the emotional roller coaster, then came (not Mal Reynold's ship) serenity...
My next endo visit is in two days. He does the blood work there so it's one stop shopping, all fully covered by OHIP. No palpating, he pretty much leaves that up to my family doc, but he does interview me concerning pain or anything unusual that might indicate a problem.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Destiny Marie on September 18, 2014, 01:34:53 PM
Post by: Destiny Marie on September 18, 2014, 01:34:53 PM
I am thinking about starting HRT and I found this thread very enlightening. I would love to hear other peoples story and experiences.
Title: Re: First Endo - don't hate me!
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 18, 2014, 02:32:11 PM
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 18, 2014, 02:32:11 PM
Yesterday, 2.5 weeks in I had my first really stressful day since starting. We have a new landlord and they're renovating everything and raising the rents 50% or more. We can't afford it. Sweety's panicking over that and simply isn't adjusting to me even though I'm going as slow as I possibly can. Then I had my annual review and it wasn't as good as I hoped. I dealt with all of that better than I would have pre-HRT.
Today, though, I'm perceverating over Sweety and the situation and feeling distracted and weepy. Not the way to be at work. Thank goodness my coworkers all know! I'd hate to be going through this with them thinking I'm a man and going WTF. I'm also thankful I see my therapist tomorrow.
Today, though, I'm perceverating over Sweety and the situation and feeling distracted and weepy. Not the way to be at work. Thank goodness my coworkers all know! I'd hate to be going through this with them thinking I'm a man and going WTF. I'm also thankful I see my therapist tomorrow.