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and think, damn if they transitioned, they would be really pretty!! lol. I must confess I do look at faces and I've found it surprising when you really pick things apart, the male traits on female faces and female traits on male faces. and wow, some guys out there, even some older ones, could be really pretty without much work.
I know this is super shallow lol, I just do it when I'm bored, waiting at the traffic lights etc.

Can't say that has ever crossed my mind. I do however sit on trains looking at some guys and think they'd have a real hard time transitioning - which is awful of me really. :(

Quote from: Ms Grace on September 27, 2014, 04:51:45 AM
Can't say that has ever crossed my mind. I do however sit on trains looking at some guys and think they'd have a real hard time transitioning - which is awful of me really. :(

Ms Grace! And I thought I was bad lol :P at least I was being a glass half full person lol, I think I find most guys who would have a real hard time passing if they did transition kinda hot a lot of times anyway. I know what you mean though, I do actually notice the same thing. I guess we think about it for ourselves so much, especially in the early stages, it's interesting to see what others would have to work with if they were in the same boat as us...

Yes! I do.  And sometimes I am a little jealous of them! How silly!

I think I'm actually going to try this out, for "Halloween" this year. I've heard this is the one day of the year it's actually acceptable tip dress as a girl so I want to do it and see how I feel after the feedback.

Yeah, funny is not it? I have become very keen on noticing female traits in  male faces and vice versa. Sometimes I think- I wonder there is something more and guy is actually trans...

Yes, all the time in fact!

He he he... yes, I confess I do notice men whose faces would allow them to transition easily (without FFS, darm!!).    In Spain this is not frequent, but I was in Sweden this week, and the guy looking after the coat-check at a venue had the most beautiful feminine face.  Mind you, Scandinavians often have gentle features.

But to follow on from MsGrace, when I'm on the metro and I see guys who are so very masculine, a few thoughts do go through my head:

"How happy and un-selfconscious he is being a guy.  I never was like that..."
      "Yummy!   (From time to time)
            "Urgh!  Glad I'm now a girl...(frequently)"
                  "This would require an impossible amount of FFS...."

Hugs
Adin

When looking at men now I only get as far as, "Ugh! I can't identify with that person at all! I DON'T want to be considered male!"
I've never related easily with men, but now it's all the more difficult even to look at men. As I move toward and into transition, maybe that will change a bit.

On the other hand, lemon_ice, this might be a fun game to play! I'll have to keep it in mind!

Quote from: Ms Grace on September 27, 2014, 04:51:45 AM
Can't say that has ever crossed my mind. I do however sit on trains looking at some guys and think they'd have a real hard time transitioning - which is awful of me really. :(

I hope I haven't been one of them.

But seriously, I have done exactly that myself...especially with some of the customers at work.

More the opposite. Having lived under the NYC umbrella and known people who know people  who now things, like models on the cover of Cosmo that were really a T, I can help seeing some andro flat assed, skinny no figure at all models with mannish faces and perhaps other tells and wonder..... Is she or isn't she?

All I think when I look at men is would I want to get to know him and let things lead to kissing+more or does this guy creep me out and should I get away from him.  ???

Um, NO! I am too busy looking for that special someone or at least a date or two. I am trying to get trans off my brain and out of circulation so why would I look at everyone else considering their trans appeal or post transition looks?  :-\

Quote from: KittyKat on September 27, 2014, 09:14:08 AM
All I think when I look at men is would I want to get to know him and let things lead to kissing+more or does this guy creep me out and should I get away from him.  ???

This!!!! I wish you lived closer Kitty, we could have a great time together out on the prowl!  ;D

Well I live in the best place to live if you ignore the economic cost of living here, NYC. No real issues with people being anti-LBGT including the Transgender part and there's a lot of stuff to do, with lot's of different people to meet.

Lol, yes, just sometimes. There's other times where I look and think "no way" and I feel horrible. Luckily most of them are happy with their manly condition. But when I usually look at guys it's because I think they are hot and would love to call their attention to myself. There are guys who are purely irresistible  :icon_redface:

Quote from: Auroramarianna on September 27, 2014, 11:52:59 AM
But when I usually look at guys it's because I think they are hot and would love to call their attention to myself. There are guys who are purely irresistible  :icon_redface:

This totally!!!  ^-^

Oh yeah, been doing this for years.  Sometimes I look back and wonder if maybe they were stealth FTM.

I only look at guys like that if they've already come out as transgender. I don't actually really pay attention to people otherwise though (though I tend to notice girls that I am extremely jealous of).

Quote from: Abby Claire on September 27, 2014, 01:02:21 PM
I only look at guys like that if they've already come out as transgender. I don't actually really pay attention to people otherwise though (though I tend to notice girls that I am extremely jealous of).

Oh this drives me nuts.  Usually don't like to be around the ones that I am terribly jealous of because the feelings that it triggers.  If I was full time, I don't think it would bother me much.  I don't typically try to guess if people are transgender or even worry about it except maybe one or two cases.  Of course, this is just in my own mind and that's where I draw the line.

YES!!  I do this all the time!  I am really glad its not just me!

The weird part is I am lesbian so its ... Confusing at times.

Interestingly enough I have never  really thought about how happy they are being in the right gender for them, just that they would make awesome girls.  It really gets wierd when I do it to people I know are FTM, because then I feel guilty.

Naturally I never let this affect the way I treat anyone.

I look at guys annnnnndddd. What would they think of me? Or darn, he is cute, I wonder what he would think of a trans woman. Or I really wish he would look over here and hit on me. Or look at me and wink and we would go to his place drink a bottle of Port wine and do the "nasty" all night long and the next night and the next night and then live happily forever. >:-) Of course I got that now and he passes out an I ma writing this post on susans at 2 AM and when he wakes up in the morning and wants something then I will be sleepy. Ahhh who am kidding? I give him whatever he wants.

BTW. It is really sad when a trans woman can outdrink a guy and still give him the "good stuff" in the morning. Especially between a rocker chick and rocker dude. He should be out and picking his nose ion the john hitting on the barstool bunnies and coming home to me and ready to go. I guess it's gonna' be a white rabbit night tonight. :( He really should be ashamed of himself. I may even show him this one post in the morning. What do you girls think?

I'm with someone I really love, but there are guys who really make me turn my head, although I'm not in the meet market. I love being looked at and having guys say something to me, but one takes the cake. There were two cute guys in their thirties who twisted their heads and said "That woman is definitely a MILF. That made my week!

Quote from: Miranda Catherine on September 28, 2014, 02:38:26 AM
I'm with someone I really love, but there are guys who really make me turn my head, although I'm not in the meet market. I love being looked at and having guys say something to me, but one takes the cake. There were two cute guys in their thirties who twisted their heads and said "That woman is definitely a MILF. That made my week!

MILF. That is definitely a badge of honor once you get past the age of 30. that would have made my year. ;D

Quote from: Jess42 on September 28, 2014, 03:41:26 AM
MILF. That is definitely a badge of honor once you get past the age of 30. that would have made my year. ;D

Age of 30?  ACK. I'm MILF material at 31. generally, i think when men open their mouths and start to say something, it's to make fun of me. But today a bunch of 18-19 year olds rode by on their BMX bikes, kids that age do that in Philly, big bike city, and instead the one said "dam girl you fine," and another said "Yeah your tits just don't quit," while the other was more of a gentlemen and said "Let me get those digits girl." Then they rode away hooting and hollering. Made my night. Usually, I detest street harassment but it wasn't too bad nor touchy feely so it was validating when I needed some.

But I never look at men and ask how they'd look on HRT. Nor do I ever guess if people are trans cause of body movements, look or mannerisms. Sometimes I can spot someone, but that's usually it's a case of poor dress, lack of makeup skills (ie bad beard shadow) or just obvious transness. I respect the latter a lot. If I didn't know I would pass 100 percent and be pretty/prettyish, I wouldn't have done it.

I look at guys and am jealous of how easily they wear their masculinity.

Then again some guys look so andro that they would probably look good in anything, burlap sack included.

Quote from: luna nyan on September 28, 2014, 05:20:49 AM
I look at guys and am jealous of how easily they wear their masculinity.

Then again some guys look so andro that they would probably look good in anything, burlap sack included.

Not me. No way in the world am I jealous of anything masculine. I tired it a failed miserably at it. Hairy all over and stinky after you sweat and just uncomfortable al the time. OK so this is kind of a stupid pondering like why do you park in a drive way and drive on a park way? But why do guys have short hair on their heads, or the majority anyway and hairy everywhere else and women have long hair and smooth skin everywhere else? Especially when a lot of guys woirk outside in the heat and sweat and all that body hair does is make an odor? Just kind of wondering on that one.

There was this one long-haired guy I saw who looked COMPLETELY like a girl, (and yet was very clearly a guy because he was dressed completely male and spoke in a completely male voice.) And I was indeed like "f*** you and your perfect androgyny, you feminine b*****d." :P

I also do pick apart the male features in women's faces too, trying to convince myself that I'm not too bad, that other women have big chins and more male-looking foreheads as well, but that tends to backfire, as I'll constantly see girls who don't, and get down on myself about how they make my attempts at femininity look like a joke by comparison.

To be fair, though, most of the time I look at guys, especially middle-aged guys, it does make me feel better to know that at least I'm not one of them anymore. I see their noses and hands and blocky frames and balding hair and see other people treating them like emotionless dudebros just like I used to be treated, and I yell up to the heavens "Thank GOD I'm not a guy anymore!"

It's extremely rare that I ever find myself jealous of the feminine features in men anymore.

I'm kind of into soft blondish hairy legs at the moment.

Well I ain;t even gonna' say what my aaaannnn... is when I look at guys. :embarrassed: Androgynous, effeminate, masculine, short hair, long hair or no hair (head or body) I always wonder the same thing.

Yeah I pretty much pick everybody apart, but in a nice way. I definitely do all of this stuff, along with less gendery, just normal ways. i like watching people and imagining lives for them.

Lol this is funny cause I do this sometimes when I'm bored also but it's with cis females. A lot of the time it's me wishing I had the height and picking out masculine features and if they would have a harder time or easier time then me transitioning.

I do this quite a bit as well, my sister does too! I also feel a bit jealous at times over the men with feminine features and bodies.. which isn't good.

I'm a sucker for this, but there are some guys I see on the train that actually look like their transitioning or if not, it would be a cinch for them to do it. Does make me a little jealous  ;D

OK. So am I the only one that thinks or wonder how big he is? Or maybe how much he can....Well, Ya'll know the rest. But seriously though when I look at a guy it is not to the capacity of how pretty of a woman he would make if he transitioned. There are only two things on my mind. Maybe three. 1. Would he like me? 2.How big is he? Well, maybe there are three questions but I better not eat anything before the third question. Well maybe four. Should I douche before we go to his place or mine? :embarrassed:

But that is the main four questions I ask myself. Never how pretty of a female he would make if he ever transitioned. When I see a cute guy, a female is the absolute last thing on my mind. But in the same toss of the coin, when I see a cute female a man is the last thing on my mind.

Seriously though when I want a man, I want a man. When I want a woman I want a woman. Trans or cis aside as long as man or woman, male or female.

Quote from: Julia-Madrid on September 27, 2014, 07:05:41 AM
He he he... yes, I confess I do notice men whose faces would allow them to transition easily (without FFS, darm!!).    In Spain this is not frequent, but I was in Sweden this week, and the guy looking after the coat-check at a venue had the most beautiful feminine face.  Mind you, Scandinavians often have gentle features.

But to follow on from MsGrace, when I'm on the metro and I see guys who are so very masculine, a few thoughts do go through my head:

"How happy and un-selfconscious he is being a guy.  I never was like that..."
      "Yummy!   (From time to time)
            "Urgh!  Glad I'm now a girl...(frequently)"
                  "This would require an impossible amount of FFS...."

Hugs
Adin

3 months in Aarhus and another 3 months in Delf, two summer in a row,  while i was 19 YO... I thought I have died and gone to heaven. they were all sooooo beautiful... so starved for passion and affection.. strange creatures.. the elfs... I miss them... and just to think I am genetically related to them but alas I do not look like them ... but I do love them... one of this days I am going to elope to Aasgard ... LOL

I feel like this whole thread just solidifies the idea that we have a gender preference for ourselves such that we look at other people and, sort of, impose our own imaginary preference upon them.  Fortunately, some great fundamental (f)law in the cosmic ordering of things prevents us from actually mentally causing others to do our bidding.  I see a person who would have an easy transition FTM or MTF and think, gee they would have such a great time, but in reality, they most likely are cis person who is perfectly happy as a man or woman.  In our world, we are what we are, and it can reflect back upon us when we see others.

Sometimes I think that mirror is so reflective that anywhere I look I see transgender.  Maybe that woman or man is actually transgender?  Maybe they haven't yet realized that this is who they are?  It really isn't any of my business, but yeah, maybe the world is just filled with deception, and the only truth can be found by looking within.  Sorry for the deep post haha :D

Yep. I say it to myself constantly, 'he could transition better than me'  and 'he could transition better than me'...etc.

I never have & that seems so strange to me. I only look & think about his private parts, the bulge in his pants & how big it is, how he would look naked & wonder how it would be to be in bed with him. I consider myself as a hetrosexual woman attracted to a hetrosexual men. Guess I'm an old style woman.

It's bad enough worrying about my own face. Mostly I don't see too many guys who look all that feminine. It's hard to imagine them coming across as women without serious effort. There are some trans girls I'm super jealous of though.

No, I've never thought anything like that when I've looked at guys...just say things like, "Dang he is some candy for sure" or something along those lines.

Quote from: Jess42 on October 02, 2014, 04:49:44 PM
OK. So am I the only one that thinks or wonder how big he is? Or maybe how much he can....Well, Ya'll know the rest. But seriously though when I look at a guy it is not to the capacity of how pretty of a woman he would make if he transitioned. There are only two things on my mind. Maybe three. 1. Would he like me? 2.How big is he? Well, maybe there are three questions but I better not eat anything before the third question. Well maybe four. Should I douche before we go to his place or mine? :embarrassed:

LOL. I hope it's okay for me to respond late. I definitely wonder sometimes... yeah, about the same. Ugh omg. Lol. I feel so naughty. I usually wonder if he's muscly and has abs as well. I pass by cute guys every day when I'm going home and the first thing that crosses my mind is: does he find me cute? So yeah. I rarely wonder if they'd be pretty women but sometimes I get jealous of feminine-looking guys. Especially the ones with smooth foreheads! I want one myself ;_;

I do that all the time, especially if they have no brow bossing and small, straight noses. I think, GOD, if they were on HRT they'd be knockouts.

Might be a bit late! But I find it funny that as transgender/queer or anyone who is more open minded basically it seems easier to notice these things? I was watching a series called theKilling with my mom (I think it is called like that) and we came across a very feminine boy. I thought it was a very boyish girl and not sure what she identified like otherwise I would pronounce it correctly.

Either way, it is funny to look at such things in series too. I also love how boyish Arya looks in Game of Thrones :D!

Quote from: Auroramarianna on October 19, 2014, 03:03:01 PM
LOL. I hope it's okay for me to respond late. I definitely wonder sometimes... yeah, about the same. Ugh omg. Lol. I feel so naughty. I usually wonder if he's muscly and has abs as well. I pass by cute guys every day when I'm going home and the first thing that crosses my mind is: does he find me cute? So yeah. I rarely wonder if they'd be pretty women but sometimes I get jealous of feminine-looking guys. Especially the ones with smooth foreheads! I want one myself ;_;

Oh believe me the forehead is the last think I notice. >:-) I loved the eighties with the tight jeans on guys. No questions. You knew. Now every guy wears loose jeans so you can['t really tell anymore. :( What worries me now is if they are too muscley then steroids come to mind. But I'm kind of a cougar now and the cubs are OK but seem kind of awkward. Maybe I should just stick with guys my own age or older, or since I'm bi, lesbians my own age or older. ??? But some of the cubs can be fun at times. That is all I'm gonna' say. :-X

Quote from: Jess42 on October 21, 2014, 04:46:02 PM
Oh believe me the forehead is the last think I notice. >:-) I loved the eighties with the tight jeans on guys. No questions. You knew. Now every guy wears loose jeans so you can['t really tell anymore. :( What worries me now is if they are too muscley then steroids come to mind. But I'm kind of a cougar now and the cubs are OK but seem kind of awkward. Maybe I should just stick with guys my own age or older, or since I'm bi, lesbians my own age or older. ??? But some of the cubs can be fun at times. That is all I'm gonna' say. :-X

Um, skinny jeans. Oh yeah definitely, at least you had an idea. LOL. But i don't think they look good on guys or maybe it's just because I am not used to seeing guys with them. Anyways, at least there's a little mystery :D OMG when did I become so naughty/slutty.

Quote from: Auroramarianna on October 21, 2014, 04:53:44 PM
Um, skinny jeans. Oh yeah definitely, at least you had an idea. LOL. But i don't think they look good on guys or maybe it's just because I am not used to seeing guys with them. Anyways, at least there's a little mystery :D OMG when did I become so naughty/slutty.

Probably after talking with me. :embarrassed: Not skinny jeans though, just tight in certain areas. God guys in jeans now. Most seem like their butts hang to their knees. Like shorts now. OMG, most guy shorts are as long as Capris or are way below the knees. A little imagination is fine, but baggy and too loose with no definition. My imagination runs wild anyway but I would like to know what I'm getting into beforehand. :embarrassed: