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it took me awhile ,but I think I made it. I just finished my 11th month.

Still not there at 9 months myself.  :embarrassed:

51%? You mean like in site similar to Pictrev? I can snap a couple of pics and one will say 80% male, 20% female, 34 y.o. and another will be 65% female, 35% male, 24 y.o. Go figure...

I honestly don't know.  I was pretty androgynous to begin with and went full time after 2 months and 2 laser sessions.  All I know is that it keeps getting better and the magic is clearly working.

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on September 29, 2014, 03:52:58 PM
51%? You mean like in site similar to Pictrev? I can snap a couple of pics and one will say 80% male, 20% female, 34 y.o. and another will be 65% female, 35% male, 24 y.o. Go figure...

51% female, 49% male

I put in an old pic (no makeup) since I don't have any new ones that work on that site and I got 17% masculine 83% feminine

Been super curious about that site for awhile now ever since I saw everyone talking about it in a thread. The famous person that had the highest percent look alike was Veda Sastry, dunno who she is but we do look somewhat similar I guess lolol.

Oh and to answer the thread question, not sure since this is the first time I tried that site. I've been on hrt for two and a half years now.

I was kind of getting at when you personally look in the mirror when did your gender start to shine forth over coming a male appearance. I've never tried that pic site I've heard from other posts it's schizophrenic .

Oh lolol now I feel embarrassed whoopsies

That happened at about the 14th month for me before that I just hated looking in the mirror.

This is an interesting website, I had no idea it existed.  So, I plugged some pics into it to play around.

I used my Virtual FFS submission photo - which was pre HRT of any kind, with just some hair growth.  100% masculine.... yay... then I used the VFFS after photo, and that got me 96% masculine.  Okay...

Then some pics from when I started trying to go out in public and do makeup.  That's when I found the breaking point.  45% masculine /55% feminine.  So apparently it was when I started to smile.  This says something either about their facial recognition system or about my face.

As for seeing my face in the mirror?  That would be the last few months or so.  So about 1 year into HRT and 6 months into full time.  It's kind of... trippy, actually.  Still not used to it, it's wonderful but unexpected.

My face kind of started out 50/50 some make up after a shave and a wig made it go right into female. I also have no visible Adam's apple, and would get called ma'am on the phone before I accepted I was transgendered. My biggest issue is getting over my depression which isn't even transgender related so I can motivate myself to exercise cause being over 225 ain't fun. Well that was slightly off topic.

Such an interesting topic, unfortunately whilst I'm seeing changes after 3 months HRT, I still look male  :icon_anger:

I am eagerly awaiting that point which, without makeup, I look female. I'm sure it will come, I'm just hoping it won't be after some really expensive FFS.

And I say, without makeup, as I think anyone can look female with makeup, but that's hard to pull off when your down the beach "ma'am, don't think your a little over dressed for the beach?" Lol

It was around the 3 month mark that I was more than 51% female looking in the face. I started getting weird looks in the mens room when dressed androgynously. At 3 1/2 months I went full time and never looked back. I haven't been called sir since then. (With the exception of occasional phone calls, and a 2 times walking up to cashiers who were busy and assume male seeing someone 6'7" out of the corner of their eye, but always apologetic and and correcting themselves.) It happened a lot quicker than I ever though it would :)

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on September 29, 2014, 03:52:58 PM
51%? You mean like in site similar to Pictrev? I can snap a couple of pics and one will say 80% male, 20% female, 34 y.o. and another will be 65% female, 35% male, 24 y.o. Go figure...

I just tried the site. 65% female/35% male and 44yo (my exact age). I was shocked. I expected 100% masculine and older.

:)

It'll come especially after getting enough hair removal. I've been doing laser right now and around my fifth session I started getting called ma'am every once in a while by people even with my short hair, I feel like if my hair was longer it'd happen a lot more.

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on September 29, 2014, 03:52:58 PM
51%? You mean like in site similar to Pictrev? I can snap a couple of pics and one will say 80% male, 20% female, 34 y.o. and another will be 65% female, 35% male, 24 y.o. Go figure...

Yeah that site is pretty random. The exact same picture will go from 100% male to 55% male, 45% female depending on my facial expression.

As for what I see in the mirror? Sadly still guy. :(

Of course I just started HRT and laser so I don't know... I feel completely hopeless about my face.

OMG, I just got 85% male 15% female,  :icon_anger: but on a positive note it did knock 6 years off so some positive out of it  ::)

That's it, complete face transplant is now on my Christmas list to Santa.

Oh and I also apparently resemble Fat Joe!  :embarrassed:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Joe

  At 9 months HRT I would love just to be 25% female but will more than likely never reach that. If I was a car and taken to the body shop they would probably just send me to the crusher..

Quote from: justpat on September 29, 2014, 11:45:17 PM
  At 9 months HRT I would love just to be 25% female but will more than likely never reach that. If I was a car and taken to the body shop they would probably just send me to the crusher..

Lol justpat, maybe we can get a two for one at a car detailer, feeling like this girl needs some attention after seeing pictriev.

Btw, moderators, is there anyway we can block that site please, Im positive I looked much more feminine before going to that site lol   :D

Where's the website that you're submitting the pictures? Am I missing something?:s

Quote from: christinaw on September 30, 2014, 06:10:16 AM
Where's the website that you're submitting the pictures? Am I missing something?:s

It's pictriev Christina, just google it

According to that silly site I'm 82% female/ 18% male and 24 years old (half my actual age!!)... (And a 47% match with Bindi Irwin!!) lol

Anyway I think HRT has helped to round out and soften my face but it seems I've been fortunate that my features were fairly feminine to begin with. So, depending on how I presented, I was already close to 51% when I started.

I can see some Bindi in you Grace, however I will warn you that I would be taking a further 8 years from your already reduced age, so you now look 16 according to pictriev  ;)

i was 7 months of HRT, my breast was growing, they had a hard knot and very painful, my skin was clearly a lot smoother, but my face never really didnt do much in any facial fem, but that was seven months, although my hip grew a little too - im sure it takes each of us different amounts of time to really show any facial changes...

i stopped doping my HRT six years ago, my breast stayed, maybe a little deflated, but still perky - im starting my HRT again, so im hoping this time my breast start growing again and if my face doesnt do any, im definitely heading to the plastic surgeon... my nose has got to go to a more feminine look and i'll be happy... 

Still waiting for that to happen though I'm of course always hoping that today's the day.

Emily mentioned Pictriev so I gave it a try with a photo from today and from day 2 HRT.  The one from today said 90% masculine and the one from day 2 said 35% masculine. Uhh... What's in these pills? :D

I just tried pictriev it says I'm 0 years old l think I like that site.

Hmm, I see guy 100%, and it really wears me down, but pictriev says 100% fem 24yo on like all of my new pictures... So I don't think I buy it.

Quote from: tuuliu on September 30, 2014, 11:11:08 AM
Still waiting for that to happen though I'm of course always hoping that today's the day.

Emily mentioned Pictriev so I gave it a try with a photo from today and from day 2 HRT.  The one from today said 90% masculine and the one from day 2 said 35% masculine. Uhh... What's in these pills? :D

Oh dear Tuuliu, you didn't take the ones that said 'T' did you, we're meant to be taking the ones that say 'E'   :D

Quote from: HeatherR on September 30, 2014, 05:09:03 PM
Hmm, I see guy 100%, and it really wears me down, but pictriev says 100% fem 24yo on like all of my new pictures... So I don't think I buy it.

Your looking great Heather, and very much female. I see a girl in your pic. How long were you on HRT?

11 months.  Thing is, without makeup, not even close.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10670164_10204451176252608_8498484867634509392_n.jpg?oh=0926fec1232255baf0749076d451dcc9&oe=54B4D3C6&__gda__=1422561427_78358281a7b493ff9711898ae28d2d43)

Last night I was going through some pictures, and I found one of me early transition.  For the last few years, I sounded like a broken record saying that HRT effects were minimal at best, so I was shocked when I saw how much more masculine my face looked then (approximately 4-5 years ago) compared to now.

I would not say that my face looks unambiguously female now (perhaps androgynous leaning towards male), but the improvements are staggering nonetheless.  Last night is one of the rare moments when I thought HRT actually did something useful for me.

Apparently the changes can creep up on you especially when they seem to be happening at a glacial pace.

ETA: I forgot to answer the question asked by the OP.  To my eye, at least, my face has never appeared more female than male even after six years of transition.

2nd or 3rd month.

And that site gave my avatar pic 31% masculine, 69% feminine, and 24 years old. I can live with that. :) Funny thing is everybody says I look like I'm 24, so I guess it's true. :P

Greta  Garbo got 95 % F and 5% M , but only had 8% comparison with her self on pictriev

Quote from: HeatherR on September 30, 2014, 06:49:08 PM
11 months.  Thing is, without makeup, not even close.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10670164_10204451176252608_8498484867634509392_n.jpg?oh=0926fec1232255baf0749076d451dcc9&oe=54B4D3C6&__gda__=1422561427_78358281a7b493ff9711898ae28d2d43)

Do your hair nice and feminine, shape the brows and smile, you might be surprised heather  :o

Pictriev is a bit flaky, I was able to get results from 95% male to 95% female, in the same set of pictures simply by lighting and facial angle. I mostly like yto see what celebs it compares to me.

I love that site.  Thanks all for noting it here.
Who cares if it's correct or not. 
It gave me a 91% fem and 26 years old!   (silly blind computer)

happy dance time!!

32% masculine, 68% feminine, 25 years old. I am laughing here. Not that I object, but I am laughing here!! :)

OK, pre-HRT, with a beard and "flavor saver", in a suit (living the role-playing socioeconomic and community accepting alpha male), got 100% male which makes me laugh when I know I am a woman; best was 38 years old when actually, 53. Burt Reynolds and a bearded Keanu Reeves were closest. Oh what an actor I am.

When I get on the train, finish losing weight, grow my ample locks out, shave (electro/laser).... we will re-test and hope for the best. I may be the greatest older start to finish of ALL time.

So I put an image that I'm using for our corporate chat program (Lync) which I took about a month ago:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyKasF5f.jpg&hash=c272fda8bbab2d0da0c49c2783d6a43de3efe747)

65% Feminine! WOOOO! That's much higher than I thought it would be.

I had a go with that site too, it is rather variable but kinda fun :) Most of my pics came back approx 65% female and better, with just a couple on the slightly male which side which was cool, the only thing that bothered me was the alarming number of times that Woody Harrelson came up as my closest match, even with my most feminine scores lol. I mean hes a cool guy, but not exactly who I'd like to look like.. I'm having my FFS in less than two weeks so hopefully that helps things :) I think its my nose that causes the woody match lol.

That site is definitely interesting lol. Oddly without glasses I get 30-40% masculine and 60-70% feminine without glasses. (Even though friends think glasses help me look more feminine.) and with glasses it was like 70% masculine and 30% feminine. It also seems like I look like a few Japanese pop stars? At that point I was questioning the credibility of the site lol.

Lol yeah I wouldn't believe it is as accurate as a person, but I do like the numbers it is giving me!

I started liking the numbers too after I took my glasses off lol. Before hand I was like I hate that site lol. I think the bangs I have keep bringing up the Japanese pop stars. Like the majority were japanese pop stars lol. I'm doing a test to see if anything on it is valid in the slightest. I am asking a few friends if I'm more feminine with or without glasses lol. It's like the exact same pose too so it isn't from different angles. :) I will definitely report back once I'm done. Although when it said I looked 14 I was like awww yea!

I tried three different photos from before I started HRT and here are the results I got on Pictriev. I have no idea what to make of these results.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPTKAxRZ.jpg&hash=372110c93e1b3cd6767c4b7831f9691a0c9213e2)
masculine
45%
feminine
55%
age
24 years old

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAxUzm1c.png&hash=eb08cef9a470b3b81746a6916804d7e8bcdcc8c1)
masculine
61(%)
feminine
39(%)
age
24 years old


(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRwfbFAD.png&hash=941348a64ebb9f5d00a58ca570875a87ba5bad85)
masculine
24%
feminine
76%
age
27 years old

Quote from: Skeptoid on October 02, 2014, 11:55:37 PM
I tried three different photos from before I started HRT and here are the results I got on Pictriev. I have no idea what to make of these results.

Wow, amazing place to be starting HRT from, super jelly! :) I bet you're looking great now :)

The only noticeable changes so far are my skin getting lighter on my face and my beard shadow becoming much less noticeable for some reason.

I always get 100% female in pictriev, but I just don't really put much stock into that.. I get sir'd all the time

i got 91% female , 9 % male and my exact age 24  pre-hrt .
i tried with another picture , 97% female, 3% male and exact age again then 100% on third picture. 

funny

This is very strange that it provided real age Oo

i am however unsure about effectiveness of this site. 

Around 6-7 months is when I was gendered consistently female by those websites.

Pictriev is so old hat now. The new kid on the block is how-old.net which uses Microsoft's machine learning and cloud computing platforms.

I know this is lame, I just used pictriev lol and it gave me 97% female and 3% male yay!

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0yxr8yr.jpg&hash=82eb94a0326c46e4a2cd86dc18495d38ac7965f8)

The bot thinks I'm younger than I am pretty consistently. The part where you let real people guess your age thinks I'm 40 because people just hit 99 over and over and skew the average.

Quote from: Skeptoid on September 30, 2015, 01:17:19 PM
The bot thinks I'm younger than I am pretty consistently. The part where you let real people guess your age thinks I'm 40 because people just hit 99 over and over and skew the average.

Most people think I'm 19 or 20 or mid 20s. Add about 17 years to that.

In person and everywhere else online people usually tell me I look 18-20. You look like anywhere from 20-25 to me.

I put a picture in last week and got 96% female aged 20.  I'm more than twice that age, and 90% of the 'famous people' I'm supposed to look like were men ;D

I knew when 51% of people began gawking at me.

Quote from: Zoetrope on September 30, 2015, 09:31:38 PM
I knew when 51% of people began gawking at me.

I'm finding it quite noticeable the difference of how guys look at me now. They use to totally ignore me two years ago. Women look at me differently too, I was called sister a couple of days ago by a woman that owns a coffee shop I go to.

The funniest thing about pictriev to me is that it often suggests primarily asian pop singers as matches for me. I'm blindingly white though...

I just ran my avatar picture and I got 100% female and 30 years old (need to add an additional 24).  I usually get 90% or greater female for almost all of my pictures and usually get at least 10 years off my actual age.  I do get a lot of people in real life who don't believe I am 54.

I've been to a couple other sites and I usually get gendered correctly.  I've been lucky in that these sites have been been correctly gendering me female almost from the beginning of my transition.  I was comfortable enough with my appearance that I was pretty much full time within 2 1/2 months of starting HRT.