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...that I love you all, and I'm here with hugs for anyone who wants or needs one. *holds out her arms and smiles warmly*

It just seems like there's a lot of drama lately between non-binary and binary folks, and that hurts me, because while I may not consider myself non-binary, I find that I identify with a lot of feelings and experiences of non-binary members.

So... I hope none of you lovely people mind me posting this thread here. I guess I just wanted to offer something positive from the binary side. Thanks for all the interesting and insightful discussions that I enjoy reading.

I certainly will join hands with you, and wish the same for everyone here. :)

as a radical hippi Jesus freak pre op bi-trans binary leaning MTF female I  just say love and let it be.

*hugs*

one more post before you get a face?

all posts of live and acceptance are welcome,
i see no reaon to reject those.

Quote from: Taka on October 07, 2014, 01:28:00 PM
*hugs*

one more post before you get a face?

all posts of live and acceptance are welcome,
i see no reaon to reject those.

Hmm...? Oh, did I finally reach the avatar postcount? Yay! *goes to find her old avatar*

Quote from: Pikachu on October 07, 2014, 12:52:39 PM
...that I love you all, and I'm here with hugs for anyone who wants or needs one. *holds out her arms and smiles warmly*

It just seems like there's a lot of drama lately between non-binary and binary folks, and that hurts me, because while I may not consider myself non-binary, I find that I identify with a lot of feelings and experiences of non-binary members.

So... I hope none of you lovely people mind me posting this thread here. I guess I just wanted to offer something positive from the binary side. Thanks for all the interesting and insightful discussions that I enjoy reading.

I don't know really where I fit in, or sometimes even if I fit in.  But I second Pikachu's sentiment.

Love to All,
Julie

I'm kind of on the edge between binary and non-binary. I don't get why there's drama and agree with Pikachu.

peace

Great avatars pic.  Sooner or later we are going to get the drama out.

I seem to be a trigger, hope not, trying to be less emotional.

So my dear, welcome.

Nails out hair down,

Satinjoy

Quote from: Satinjoy on October 07, 2014, 08:23:37 PM
Great avatars pic.  Sooner or later we are going to get the drama out.

I seem to be a trigger, hope not, trying to be less emotional.

So my dear, welcome.

Nails out hair down,

Satinjoy

Aww, I don't think that, SJ. You're awesome. Reading your posts makes me smile.

*gives you a warm hug*

o.O

Looks like things have been going to heck around here recently.  And I've been too busy to read walls of text for the time being.

Support site folks, love the opinions, don't like the unnecessary conflict going on.  We may disagree on nuances and points, but mustn't forget that as a group we are a misunderstood minority, binary or non-binary.  Infighting of the sort that has been going on recently has no benefit to anyone.

Love this site when it is at its best, bothersome at its worst.  :)

Totally agree.  We need all of us..

Pikachu

You are a lovely person and always welcome

Aisla

Thanks, Aisla. I feel more "at home" in this section of the forum, actually. I've always felt somewhat out of place in the MTF section, since it's mostly focused on transitioning aspects that don't apply to me.

i noticed your absence when you came back...
actually before, but it's difficult to remember names with all the online connections that i have.

i also like this section. firstly because it saved me from making a mistake. not sure how big a mistake it would have been to so binary transition, but i'm quite sure it would have been a mistake.
and secondly, because there's less focus on transition here. the irc chat can be interesting at times, but i soon feel out of place when the talk is only about medical transition.
the friends i got here also mean a lot to me, but... i don't see them as solely part of this section, so it kind of doesn't really apply. friends are friends no matter which section they're from.

Yeah? Well, it's cool to know that people noticed I was gone. I didn't post a whole lot in general, and I think I mostly just lurked this section, so I'm a bit surprised.

It does seem like this section is less focused on that kind of stuff. Sometimes it feels like hormones are all people have on their minds in the MTF section. Like there's no transition at all without them. It's like there's this weird mythology we've built up, where they literally cure and change everything. Everything transition related will suddenly fall in place with the magic of the girl pills!

Quote from: Pikachu on October 08, 2014, 05:15:21 PM
Yeah? Well, it's cool to know that people noticed I was gone. I didn't post a whole lot in general, and I think I mostly just lurked this section, so I'm a bit surprised.

It does seem like this section is less focused on that kind of stuff. Sometimes it feels like hormones are all people have on their minds in the MTF section. Like there's no transition at all without them. It's like there's this weird mythology we've built up, where they literally cure and change everything. Everything transition related will suddenly fall in place with the magic of the girl pills!

Hi, I am new here but what have seen in my lurking and learning years is that some people have that need or yearning to be "normal" and it is hard to get away from that in our society.  We are born and raised in a binary environment from bathrooms to schools.  I used to have those same feelings.  I wanted to be "normal", but after the long road to get my hormones I realized I missed many years of my life wishing. 

One day, I hope to be female, but I am just riding t his wave of incongruity and enjoying the ride that is our life.

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
Dr. Seuss
US author & illustrator (1904 - 1991) 

i might have lurked some in other sections as well...

that sounds great, ali. learning to just be, i finally found happiness. i'm still wanting to transition, but it turns out that wasn't necessary to fix my life. it may be necessary for fixing my body, but that's something quite different. being sure of myself as trans seems to be more important than getting that magical cure.

I agree totally Ali, and have also wasted much of my life trying to be normal, society just relentlessly tries to drill that into our mindset.

I wish so much I could change my internal thought process faster and further into some next step to expand or transition, even if just within my own mind, but I get feeling like its too late for me, and I'm just rattling my chains up and down the halls here, not accomplishing much of anything except taking others time. Maybe that was my part in any unrest here, was just frustrating others with my slowness to learn and understand things. For that I am sorry..

I am here for any of you, even though I may not have as much as I'd like to be able to offer, never the less, I will still try.

It is never to late, unless your dead.  While we are alive, we must be true to ourselves no matter where our journey starts, stops, or pauses.  We are all in this world together and not one of us are getting out alive!   :D

i like the sound of rattling chains, mark.
there is no need to change unless that need comes from within.
an if it does come from within, and nothing is there to stop you, it is not too late as long as you still live.
some medical transformations may be difficult for medical reasons though.

There's none sweeter than you Stephanie!

I made it clear some time back that Androgyne now the Non-Binary forum was my base camp, but I flit around all the forums and feel equally welcomed by all and have loads of MtF, FtM and cross dressing friends here as well as NB buddies and consider Susan's Place my own big extended family. Siblings bicker, it's invariably tied to some kind of emotional immaturity and lack of self control, but that's true in all families. I personally feel that the key to being real to everyone here is to get a sense of personal ownership so that we don't allow ourselves to become a blemish in the fabric of Susan's Place and ruin it's reputation as the world's foremost transgender support site. I'd hate to think someone would harm themselves because I selfishly allowed myself to lose control and have a childish tantrum at their expense.

*huggles Auntie Shan* :)

Quote from: Pikachu on October 08, 2014, 07:26:09 PM
*huggles Auntie Shan* :)

Back atcha Sweet Pea!

Quote from: Taka on October 08, 2014, 06:38:52 PM
it is not too late as long as you still live.
some medical transformations may be difficult for medical reasons though.

I got thinking, and it's probably important to tell you this,
because it is a big factor in my attitude, and if you don't know this,
it will be difficult for people to understand why I say some of the things I say.
It's not meant to be negativity or giving up on my journey, it's just that I have
severe liver disease, that incapacitates me in fatigue about 1/2 of each day,
and I'm not certain I can be put on a transplant list for technical reasons.
That is just an aspect of my life I think about when I post here, and maybe some might not Get me.?
I don't want pity or anyone being sorry for me, I own this, it's of my own making, and I take full responsibility for it.!
I just want you to know, to understand me better here.  :)

I'll not treat you to a load of pity, but I am still very sorry that you have such a big life threatening burden on your plate because from what I've observed you are a very nice and sensitive person, and it's just a huge shame that you have to bear this. You had told me this before and though it puts a crimp in your transitional plans, it doesn't make you any less a part of us honey.

Thanks Shanie,
There is absolutely nowhere I'd rather be than here with everyone.!!

*hugs*

I'm definitely glad you're here, Mark, and second what Shan said. You seem like a caring person. :)

Quote from: Mark3 on October 08, 2014, 08:34:33 PM
I got thinking, and it's probably important to tell you this,
because it is a big factor in my attitude, and if you don't know this,
it will be difficult for people to understand why I say some of the things I say.
It's not meant to be negativity or giving up on my journey, it's just that I have
severe liver disease, that incapacitates me in fatigue about 1/2 of each day,
and I'm not certain I can be put on a transplant list for technical reasons.
That is just an aspect of my life I think about when I post here, and maybe some might not Get me.?
I don't want pity or anyone being sorry for me, I own this, it's of my own making, and I take full responsibility for it.!
I just want you to know, to understand me better here.  :)

We all have our own paths to walk in life. Some easier, some harder.

Thing is we all walk it together and always here when someone needs help.

Hugs

i was thinking of your condition when i wrote that, mark. and all the others who cannot safely get different kinds of medical treatments.
but it will never be too late to seek out truth and learning to live truthfully. mesical transition may help a lot, some even believe it is necessaryand maybe it is for them. but seeing people go through life with extreme chronical pain but never letting it stop thwm, i have come to think that a lack of perfect health or wholeness of body and mind, can't be the only way to find happuness and a life worth living. i realize any other route may be difficult to find, but i have to believe it is possiblefor the sake of those who have found themselves unable to transition medically.

i don't know if my dysphoria is more or less than anyone else's. i have been wishing for a medical excuse other than trans for removing unwanted body parts. i have been thinking that i wouldn't ever find gappuness without transitioning. i have found it extremely mebtally painful to be called a gender i am not, even when i was not trying to preaent as any other. the pain came from knowing i couldn't possibly pass as the opposite gender.

but i am still here and happier than ever befor even without transitioning. the wish to transition is still there, but it's not eating me up. it seems that learning to accept myself and the realities of my situation on a much deeper level than what society will ever look for, has helped me find what is needed to avoid wasting so much time ob ubhappiness and dissatisfaction. does not mean i am satisfied with the lack of options where i live, i just won't let it drag me down for more than moments at a time.