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Title: Detransitioning - Social Security Gender Change
Post by: ChaoticTribe on October 19, 2014, 08:09:37 AM
Post by: ChaoticTribe on October 19, 2014, 08:09:37 AM
When I transitioned I had top surgery and my surgeon wrote a letter stating that I had surgically changed my sex from female to male.
That was two years ago... I still have my original birth certificate and passport, and my surgeon is willing to write a letter stating that the surgery was a dramatic breast reduction to change my physical appearance from female to male but that my genitals were not touched in the procedure so I am still physically a female and my documents should reflect this.
Do you think that will be enough? He will get it notarized just like the first one was required to be. I am just worried because to change it once I needed a letter stating that I had surgery. Does anyone have experience with this? I want to be 100% sure all bases are covered so that I don't run into any issues there. When I tried to call the ACLU they told me they weren't sure and they got back to me and still didn't have an answer for me, so I am guessing this is a rare thing.
I cannot afford a reversal surgery (i.e. implants) and neither do I want to continue getting chopped up. My surgeon is not going to lie on any records so I can't get a second letter for a second surgery, all I can do is clarify about the first one or get birth documents, etcetera - something along those lines.
That was two years ago... I still have my original birth certificate and passport, and my surgeon is willing to write a letter stating that the surgery was a dramatic breast reduction to change my physical appearance from female to male but that my genitals were not touched in the procedure so I am still physically a female and my documents should reflect this.
Do you think that will be enough? He will get it notarized just like the first one was required to be. I am just worried because to change it once I needed a letter stating that I had surgery. Does anyone have experience with this? I want to be 100% sure all bases are covered so that I don't run into any issues there. When I tried to call the ACLU they told me they weren't sure and they got back to me and still didn't have an answer for me, so I am guessing this is a rare thing.
I cannot afford a reversal surgery (i.e. implants) and neither do I want to continue getting chopped up. My surgeon is not going to lie on any records so I can't get a second letter for a second surgery, all I can do is clarify about the first one or get birth documents, etcetera - something along those lines.
Title: Re: Detransitioning - Social Security Gender Change
Post by: Devlyn on October 19, 2014, 08:39:08 AM
Post by: Devlyn on October 19, 2014, 08:39:08 AM
I think rare situation is an understatement here. Truthfully, you are probably going to have to throw things at the wall and see what sticks. As the test balloon, you may be able to help the next person who goes through the system.
Hugs, Devlyn
Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Detransitioning - Social Security Gender Change
Post by: ChaoticTribe on October 20, 2014, 10:37:38 AM
Post by: ChaoticTribe on October 20, 2014, 10:37:38 AM
Oh, goodness. Well I will certainly see what I can do and I'm going to keep everyone updated when I finally find out what works so people here will have knowledge to draw on.
Considering that lately a lot of people have come out about detransitioning, I was hoping some of them may have had to jump through this same hoop, but maybe they hadn't gotten their documents switched over so things were easier for them :/
Considering that lately a lot of people have come out about detransitioning, I was hoping some of them may have had to jump through this same hoop, but maybe they hadn't gotten their documents switched over so things were easier for them :/
Title: Re: Detransitioning - Social Security Gender Change
Post by: Bunter on October 21, 2014, 10:51:02 AM
Post by: Bunter on October 21, 2014, 10:51:02 AM
It's really not *that* rare.
Title: Re: Detransitioning - Social Security Gender Change
Post by: ThePhoenix on October 21, 2014, 11:08:28 AM
Post by: ThePhoenix on October 21, 2014, 11:08:28 AM
The requirements for social security gender marker changes are here:
https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110212200
A possibly more lay-person friendly version is here:
http://www.transequality.org/Resources/SSAResource_June2013.pdf
It should not matter whether you are transitioning for the first time or detransitioning. You should not be having to "throw things at the wall and see what sticks." If your original birth certificate and passport are still valid, please note that those are on the list of documents that are acceptable for changing gender markers. As far as other requirements go, take a look at the two links I posted.
https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110212200
A possibly more lay-person friendly version is here:
http://www.transequality.org/Resources/SSAResource_June2013.pdf
It should not matter whether you are transitioning for the first time or detransitioning. You should not be having to "throw things at the wall and see what sticks." If your original birth certificate and passport are still valid, please note that those are on the list of documents that are acceptable for changing gender markers. As far as other requirements go, take a look at the two links I posted.
Title: Re: Detransitioning - Social Security Gender Change
Post by: ChaoticTribe on October 21, 2014, 03:11:47 PM
Post by: ChaoticTribe on October 21, 2014, 03:11:47 PM
Excellent! Thank you very much, I am glad to see that I can simply bring two government issued documents and then I should not have any problem at all.
I do still have my birth certificate and passport, and soon I will have a drivers license that works out :)
I really appreciate the help!
I do still have my birth certificate and passport, and soon I will have a drivers license that works out :)
I really appreciate the help!
Title: Re: Detransitioning - Social Security Gender Change
Post by: Shantel on October 22, 2014, 01:57:59 PM
Post by: Shantel on October 22, 2014, 01:57:59 PM
Quote from: ChaoticTribe on October 21, 2014, 03:11:47 PM
Excellent! Thank you very much, I am glad to see that I can simply bring two government issued documents and then I should not have any problem at all.
I do still have my birth certificate and passport, and soon I will have a drivers license that works out :)
I really appreciate the help!
So glad that things are working out for you hon! Susan's can be a great place to find answers to situations like this.