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Title: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Satinjoy on November 15, 2014, 08:33:47 AM
Post by: Satinjoy on November 15, 2014, 08:33:47 AM
I know I have lost the handle and that I am scared to the redline.
Full transition, partial, stealth, dysphoria, family, social stigma, brave people of trans taking the world on, their families, themselves.
It can be too much.
How do you get through the day my dear ones? How do you set yourselves free?
I still shocked at the depth of the rage I felt this week, it was like a half century of stuffed fury exploded on forum.
Now the fear has me.
Which means phones, as meetings, distractions, embarrassment, self pity, and ultimately self examination, prayer, apologies if appropriate, and still standing our ground as the Nonbinary children of trans.
This stuff is incredibly big and serious. I need my big trans brothers and sisters and moms and dads and Grande and aunts uncle's and God.
You carry me when I no longer can.
And I will try to carry you.
Love to all here.
Blessings
Satinjoy
Full transition, partial, stealth, dysphoria, family, social stigma, brave people of trans taking the world on, their families, themselves.
It can be too much.
How do you get through the day my dear ones? How do you set yourselves free?
I still shocked at the depth of the rage I felt this week, it was like a half century of stuffed fury exploded on forum.
Now the fear has me.
Which means phones, as meetings, distractions, embarrassment, self pity, and ultimately self examination, prayer, apologies if appropriate, and still standing our ground as the Nonbinary children of trans.
This stuff is incredibly big and serious. I need my big trans brothers and sisters and moms and dads and Grande and aunts uncle's and God.
You carry me when I no longer can.
And I will try to carry you.
Love to all here.
Blessings
Satinjoy
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: adrian on November 15, 2014, 09:01:54 AM
Post by: adrian on November 15, 2014, 09:01:54 AM
I can carry you a part of the way, Satinjoy.
It's fall here where I am, and we have a beautiful steely gray sky at the moment, and the leaves on the trees are bright red and yellow. We can walk through the forest and breathe the cool, mossy-smelling air. It's very calm and quiet there and our steps are muffled by the leaves on the ground. We breathe in the calm and peacefulness with deep breaths. In the sky, there's this brighter spot where the sun is hidden beneath the gray blanket that's the sky. It's not coming out, but we know it's there and it can warm us. We just have to keep on walking for a little longer.
It's fall here where I am, and we have a beautiful steely gray sky at the moment, and the leaves on the trees are bright red and yellow. We can walk through the forest and breathe the cool, mossy-smelling air. It's very calm and quiet there and our steps are muffled by the leaves on the ground. We breathe in the calm and peacefulness with deep breaths. In the sky, there's this brighter spot where the sun is hidden beneath the gray blanket that's the sky. It's not coming out, but we know it's there and it can warm us. We just have to keep on walking for a little longer.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Satinjoy on November 15, 2014, 09:15:09 AM
Post by: Satinjoy on November 15, 2014, 09:15:09 AM
Thank you dear.
The best outcome of the thread is helping all of us, I don't want the spotlight right now.
And again thank you.
The best outcome of the thread is helping all of us, I don't want the spotlight right now.
And again thank you.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Dread_Faery on November 15, 2014, 09:41:19 AM
Post by: Dread_Faery on November 15, 2014, 09:41:19 AM
Have you tried expressing that rage? Edge mentioned writing a letter to the part of him that criticises, I did similar for my biologicals and I'm reading something of ativan's that's similar.
No one has to read it, but just codifying it into words can help make sense of it.
No one has to read it, but just codifying it into words can help make sense of it.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Satinjoy on November 15, 2014, 11:21:35 AM
Post by: Satinjoy on November 15, 2014, 11:21:35 AM
Afraid I would trigger myself again, but great idea. Maybe just see what I am mad at. I think I stuff it too much.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Tessa James on November 15, 2014, 12:53:27 PM
Post by: Tessa James on November 15, 2014, 12:53:27 PM
Satinjoy you are smart and resourceful and stress turning to distress will always be part of our lives. Many of us have benefitted from techniques such as mindful meditation, self hypnosis, guided imagery, vigorous physical work outs or a walk on the beach. Bring yourself to a familiar safe place physically or emotionally and dwell in that peace. Start with deep breaths and let the peace wash over you in colorful waves and wash those fears and anger away. Be the cloud that floats above strife. Your imaginative mind can find a way. We do break down and we do recover. We are here for you and send the best virtual vibes your way.
Love and Hugs
Love and Hugs
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Taka on November 15, 2014, 02:09:23 PM
Post by: Taka on November 15, 2014, 02:09:23 PM
when i'm breaking, i go on youtube and search for soundtracks that match my mood.
really difficult, sometimes i want heroic music like jam project, other times the distorted sound of hirakawa's berserk soundtracks. or something calming.
i rarely complain online or to friends. last week was the second time here.
i've done it on two other forums too, once on each.
i'm no good at writing to myself, but complaining to others helps.
send me a pm/email when you feel like expressing rage a little more safely, i'm not afraid of harsh language. grew up in the north after all, people aren't even arrested for swearing at police officers here...
really difficult, sometimes i want heroic music like jam project, other times the distorted sound of hirakawa's berserk soundtracks. or something calming.
i rarely complain online or to friends. last week was the second time here.
i've done it on two other forums too, once on each.
i'm no good at writing to myself, but complaining to others helps.
send me a pm/email when you feel like expressing rage a little more safely, i'm not afraid of harsh language. grew up in the north after all, people aren't even arrested for swearing at police officers here...
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Satinjoy on November 16, 2014, 11:23:32 AM
Post by: Satinjoy on November 16, 2014, 11:23:32 AM
Many thanks, kindhearted friends
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Mark3 on November 16, 2014, 11:58:12 AM
Post by: Mark3 on November 16, 2014, 11:58:12 AM
"When I can't handle anymore and break".?
I just get in a bad mood.. Maybe empty out a closet and throw everything in the trash that hasn't been touched in the past 3 months.?
Maybe cut the grass in the backyard, without picking up the fallen dead tree branches, and mowing over them and shooting wood chips over the fence into neighbors yards.!
Maybe find 2-3 old dishes and smash them on the floor..
Anything that releases that built up negativity and energy..
I usually mellow out a few hours afterwards, and am back to usual, and feeling much better, lighter, unburdened....
Hope you feel better soon SJ... <3
I just get in a bad mood.. Maybe empty out a closet and throw everything in the trash that hasn't been touched in the past 3 months.?
Maybe cut the grass in the backyard, without picking up the fallen dead tree branches, and mowing over them and shooting wood chips over the fence into neighbors yards.!
Maybe find 2-3 old dishes and smash them on the floor..
Anything that releases that built up negativity and energy..
I usually mellow out a few hours afterwards, and am back to usual, and feeling much better, lighter, unburdened....
Hope you feel better soon SJ... <3
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Taka on November 16, 2014, 12:34:44 PM
Post by: Taka on November 16, 2014, 12:34:44 PM
i once smashed a piece of an already broken tile.
another time i unfortunately smasjed my sister's cup by putting it down a little too hard on granite.
even that is still better than how i'd almost shut down instead of getting angry when people are being completely unreasonable.
i can't handle doing chores when there are other people doing that too, and i'm even worse at being ordered around and then being yelled at because i'm unable to do five things at the same time while being verbally abused just because someone thinks they have a right to speak to me in whichever manner they choose to.
unfortunately, growing up with my parents has made me a little more sensitive that i should have been. if someone tries to order me around in a non-professional setting, i'll get into a rather livid mood. that does make relationships really difficult, so i'm only going to consider someone who is naturally either submissive or soothing. anything else could too easily end in disaster.
another time i unfortunately smasjed my sister's cup by putting it down a little too hard on granite.
even that is still better than how i'd almost shut down instead of getting angry when people are being completely unreasonable.
i can't handle doing chores when there are other people doing that too, and i'm even worse at being ordered around and then being yelled at because i'm unable to do five things at the same time while being verbally abused just because someone thinks they have a right to speak to me in whichever manner they choose to.
unfortunately, growing up with my parents has made me a little more sensitive that i should have been. if someone tries to order me around in a non-professional setting, i'll get into a rather livid mood. that does make relationships really difficult, so i'm only going to consider someone who is naturally either submissive or soothing. anything else could too easily end in disaster.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: suzifrommd on November 16, 2014, 05:49:41 PM
Post by: suzifrommd on November 16, 2014, 05:49:41 PM
Quote from: Satinjoy on November 15, 2014, 08:33:47 AM
How do you get through the day my dear ones? How do you set yourselves free?
Simple answer: When all else fails, I pray for courage and serenity. I usually get them.
I hope this helps. Sending all my hugs your way.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: JLT1 on November 16, 2014, 06:00:51 PM
Post by: JLT1 on November 16, 2014, 06:00:51 PM
I fix what I can fix,
I prepare for what I can prepare for,
I love whom I can love,
I pray when I'm happy, when I'm sad, when I'm lost and when I want to die.
But it's just not my time.
So I blow the other problems off,
they'll still be there when I can deal with them
but they aren't worth the worry today.
I live each happy moment for as long as I can
I dream of the better days to come
Hugs,
Jen
I prepare for what I can prepare for,
I love whom I can love,
I pray when I'm happy, when I'm sad, when I'm lost and when I want to die.
But it's just not my time.
So I blow the other problems off,
they'll still be there when I can deal with them
but they aren't worth the worry today.
I live each happy moment for as long as I can
I dream of the better days to come
Hugs,
Jen
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Satinjoy on November 16, 2014, 09:15:34 PM
Post by: Satinjoy on November 16, 2014, 09:15:34 PM
Wonderful positive post Jen
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Wild Flower on November 17, 2014, 06:23:54 AM
Post by: Wild Flower on November 17, 2014, 06:23:54 AM
I literally break today during lunch but I played Diamonds are a girl best friend in my head.
I thought of Marilyn... she never look sad being Marilyn but the world kne different
I wanted to be a woman so bad... its getting stronger. I dont know how to act like a man... cause im not.
Im pretty much 99 percent feminine... its a hard life when life wasnt meant for you.
I sometimes hate the mirror but then with the right lighting i see me... the right oil in my eyes. And i feel pretty.... i see her when no one else does. Well the lucky few do... im literally breaking today.
I thought of Marilyn... she never look sad being Marilyn but the world kne different
I wanted to be a woman so bad... its getting stronger. I dont know how to act like a man... cause im not.
Im pretty much 99 percent feminine... its a hard life when life wasnt meant for you.
I sometimes hate the mirror but then with the right lighting i see me... the right oil in my eyes. And i feel pretty.... i see her when no one else does. Well the lucky few do... im literally breaking today.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Tessa James on November 17, 2014, 11:48:04 AM
Post by: Tessa James on November 17, 2014, 11:48:04 AM
Hang on Wildflower and keep taking those sidelong glances in the mirror. I am betting on you seeing yourself more clearly over time.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Jess42 on November 17, 2014, 12:07:39 PM
Post by: Jess42 on November 17, 2014, 12:07:39 PM
I don't really know but I think I may have gotten a pretty good handle on it. I break still but not completely. How I did it is facing who I am, all the ugliness, all the bitterness, all the anger, all the self hate and hate for others, all the jelousy and about a million other things. Why did I have to and why should I be all those things. All I was doing was pissing away happiness or the closest I can ever get to it. Yeah I lost a marriage. I will lose family. I lost friends. But, family isn't a genetic thing. The marriage was freaking miserable for me because of supressing who I truly am. And friends? I have a whole new set that replaced those that turned against me.
Breaking though. We are always gonna break at times no matter what. Sometimes we need to cry. Sometimes changing for yourself is the best thing to do. We lose and we find. But always go forward though. Cry, grieve and do whatever you need to do to let it out. Then keep searching for that rainbow.
Breaking though. We are always gonna break at times no matter what. Sometimes we need to cry. Sometimes changing for yourself is the best thing to do. We lose and we find. But always go forward though. Cry, grieve and do whatever you need to do to let it out. Then keep searching for that rainbow.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: JulieBlair on November 17, 2014, 02:51:37 PM
Post by: JulieBlair on November 17, 2014, 02:51:37 PM
"Someday we'll find it,
The rainbow connection,
The lovers, the dreamers and me"
I'm afraid I'm broken right now. Some of my family has left, some are leaving, and I cannot see the rainbow for the rain. :'(
Love to you all,
Julie
The rainbow connection,
The lovers, the dreamers and me"
I'm afraid I'm broken right now. Some of my family has left, some are leaving, and I cannot see the rainbow for the rain. :'(
Love to you all,
Julie
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: helen2010 on November 17, 2014, 03:01:01 PM
Post by: helen2010 on November 17, 2014, 03:01:01 PM
Quote from: JulieBlair on November 17, 2014, 02:51:37 PM
"Someday we'll find it,
The rainbow connection,
The lovers, the dreamers and me"
I'm afraid I'm broken right now. Some of my family has left, some are leaving, and I cannot see the rainbow for the rain. :'(
Love to you all,
Julie
Julie
The rain will cease. The sun will reappear. The rainbow will reveal itself and you will find both the love and the future that you deserve.
Safe travels
Aisla
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Jess42 on November 17, 2014, 03:09:47 PM
Post by: Jess42 on November 17, 2014, 03:09:47 PM
Quote from: JulieBlair on November 17, 2014, 02:51:37 PM
"Someday we'll find it,
The rainbow connection,
The lovers, the dreamers and me"
I'm afraid I'm broken right now. Some of my family has left, some are leaving, and I cannot see the rainbow for the rain. :'(
Love to you all,
Julie
Breaking and broken is just another chance to rebuild the way you see fit. OMG Julie. I am so sorry. Emotional pain sux. You do have family though that won't ever leave you.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Allyda on November 17, 2014, 04:25:13 PM
Post by: Allyda on November 17, 2014, 04:25:13 PM
I have my bad days just like everyone else. Mine mostly tho stem from all the best years of my live I lost to misery and despair. How things always got in the way of my transitioning sooner. When I think o those lost years all I want to do is cry, which I usually do until I've no tears left.
My other reason for losing it is my crippling genital dysphoria and how it has kept me all alone all these years, but hopefully soon as I'll have my SRS this spring I'll finally be whole and be able to have a normal relationship.
When I break down like this and lose all my hope, I'm so so thankful i have you lovely ladies and gents, binary and non-binary alike to help me get through those horrible moments and restore my hope for the future. For without y'all I dunno if I could go on. Now that I have my friend here to help me both pre and post op I have more hope now than I ever have. I thank each and every one of you for your support. :icon_bunch:
Ally :icon_flower:
My other reason for losing it is my crippling genital dysphoria and how it has kept me all alone all these years, but hopefully soon as I'll have my SRS this spring I'll finally be whole and be able to have a normal relationship.
When I break down like this and lose all my hope, I'm so so thankful i have you lovely ladies and gents, binary and non-binary alike to help me get through those horrible moments and restore my hope for the future. For without y'all I dunno if I could go on. Now that I have my friend here to help me both pre and post op I have more hope now than I ever have. I thank each and every one of you for your support. :icon_bunch:
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Satinjoy on November 17, 2014, 04:45:40 PM
Post by: Satinjoy on November 17, 2014, 04:45:40 PM
Well I am better and therapy today revealed much.
Stress triggers dysphoria in me.
Personally I am fine.
What to do.
Outlast it.
Wait it out, and come back stronger.
Keep your heads dear friends. Don't get manipulated by your own dysphoria or anyone else's. We are all accountable to ourselves in how we handle ours, and pain is part of trans.
Blessings
Satinjoy
Stress triggers dysphoria in me.
Personally I am fine.
What to do.
Outlast it.
Wait it out, and come back stronger.
Keep your heads dear friends. Don't get manipulated by your own dysphoria or anyone else's. We are all accountable to ourselves in how we handle ours, and pain is part of trans.
Blessings
Satinjoy
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Jess42 on November 17, 2014, 04:51:37 PM
Post by: Jess42 on November 17, 2014, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: Satinjoy on November 17, 2014, 04:45:40 PM
Well I am better and therapy today revealed much.
Stress triggers dysphoria in me.
Personally I am fine.
What to do.
Outlast it.
Wait it out, and come back stronger.
Keep your heads dear friends. Don't get manipulated by your own dysphoria or anyone else's. We are all accountable to ourselves in how we handle ours, and pain is part of trans.
Blessings
Satinjoy
That is good SJ. Now you know your stressors. Stress. I still don't I probably never will.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: JulieBlair on November 17, 2014, 06:17:58 PM
Post by: JulieBlair on November 17, 2014, 06:17:58 PM
Aisla and Jess,
You are my family and I love you.
Julie
You are my family and I love you.
Julie
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Jess42 on November 17, 2014, 06:28:48 PM
Post by: Jess42 on November 17, 2014, 06:28:48 PM
Quote from: JulieBlair on November 17, 2014, 06:17:58 PM
Aisla and Jess,
You are my family and I love you.
Julie
Well we aren't sister for nothing. Love you too hon. Sisters are special to one another. Never forget that.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Allyda on November 17, 2014, 06:37:56 PM
Post by: Allyda on November 17, 2014, 06:37:56 PM
@ SatinJoy & Julie;
You two are both some of the strongest women I know. We can all get through these tough times together and hopefully be stronger for it in the end.
Ally ;)
You two are both some of the strongest women I know. We can all get through these tough times together and hopefully be stronger for it in the end.
Ally ;)
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Satinjoy on November 18, 2014, 04:07:48 AM
Post by: Satinjoy on November 18, 2014, 04:07:48 AM
That is kind dear. But strength comes from God and each other.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Jess42 on November 19, 2014, 02:23:24 PM
Post by: Jess42 on November 19, 2014, 02:23:24 PM
Quote from: Satinjoy on November 18, 2014, 04:07:48 AM
That is kind dear. But strength comes from God and each other.
Oh Satinjoy. I love you dear but strength is something that we find within ourselves. We can ask for inspiration from God to find that strength or ask god to show us our strength or be inspired by our brothers and sisters, but strength is something we have to find within ourselves. We were all created with it. Sometimes strength is not really caring what other's think about you but what you think about yourself. This is my case. I have to live my life the way I want and the way I am most comfortable with. Having ties are fine, but unacceptance isn't.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Tessa James on November 20, 2014, 11:14:33 PM
Post by: Tessa James on November 20, 2014, 11:14:33 PM
Deep breaths, sigh slowly, relax every muscle you own and turn to a warm liquid being........the flow continues
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: JulieBlair on November 21, 2014, 12:54:36 PM
Post by: JulieBlair on November 21, 2014, 12:54:36 PM
Shoot Tessa my essence just ran out of my clothes and all over the floor. ;)
j
j
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: helen2010 on November 21, 2014, 01:22:56 PM
Post by: helen2010 on November 21, 2014, 01:22:56 PM
Quote from: JulieBlair on November 17, 2014, 06:17:58 PM
Aisla and Jess,
You are my family and I love you.
Julie
Julie
Family is everything to me. Sometimes folk leave home. Sometimes we change home. However the ties remain. Shared experience, love and perspective binds and brings folk together regardless of where they choose to travel. I like to think that we each carry a part of each person who is important to us and remain linked no matter where we are.
Got to love the Internet - so much easier to stay connected.
Safe travels
Aisla
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: JulieBlair on November 21, 2014, 01:49:26 PM
Post by: JulieBlair on November 21, 2014, 01:49:26 PM
Quote from: Aisla on November 21, 2014, 01:22:56 PM
Julie
Family is everything to me. Sometimes folk leave home. Sometimes we change home. However the ties remain. Shared experience, love and perspective binds and brings folk together regardless of where they choose to travel. I like to think that we each carry a part of each person who is important to us and remain linked no matter where we are.
Got to love the Internet - so much easier to stay connected.
Safe travels
Aisla
Aisla,
There are a few that I would follow to the ends of the earth.
You, Satinjoy, Tessa, Jess, Patty, and Taka comprise the list. You are my teachers, my friends and fellow travelers. Mostly you are the most compassionate people I have ever known. Gay or Straight, Cis or Trans. All identify as both male and female - non-binary and beautiful.
Peace,
Julie
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: Jess42 on November 21, 2014, 03:53:17 PM
Post by: Jess42 on November 21, 2014, 03:53:17 PM
Quote from: JulieBlair on November 21, 2014, 01:49:26 PM
Aisla,
There are a few that I would follow to the ends of the earth.
You, Satinjoy, Tessa, Jess, Patty, and Taka comprise the list. You are my teachers, my friends and fellow travelers. Mostly you are the most compassionate people I have ever known. Gay or Straight, Cis or Trans. All identify as both male and female - non-binary and beautiful.
Peace,
Julie
OMG Julie. You know you are so eloquent in the way you put this and so elegant as a person? You and those other than me that you mentioned are truly special people.
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: JulieBlair on November 21, 2014, 04:23:04 PM
Post by: JulieBlair on November 21, 2014, 04:23:04 PM
You are the most lovely of us all. :)
Love
Julie
Love
Julie
Title: Re: when you just can't handle it anymore and break
Post by: justpat on November 21, 2014, 04:43:26 PM
Post by: justpat on November 21, 2014, 04:43:26 PM
I am honored to be included in a group of such beautiful human beings. Thank You Julie . :) Patty