Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: PinkCloud on November 27, 2014, 07:10:15 PM Return to Full Version
Title: I should have listened to him...
Post by: PinkCloud on November 27, 2014, 07:10:15 PM
Post by: PinkCloud on November 27, 2014, 07:10:15 PM
A short story about my encounter...
I was around 11 years old. There was this transguy in my town, he was about 5 years older than me. When I played outside he sometimes would come to me and started bullying me. As weird as it seems, it wasn't really bullying. He would block my path and draw me into a corner to grab me, while saying to me: "I will release you when you say you are a girl", "Say it!", and so on. He never hurt me. I was clueless my whole life. If only I had listened to him back then... I think he saw for what I was, and am today. Some 20 years later I finally accepted it. Back then I did not know he was a transguy. I just thought he was a guy. It is a strange story, but I've mulled over it's meaning for way too long. So I thought I share it.
What do you think?
I was around 11 years old. There was this transguy in my town, he was about 5 years older than me. When I played outside he sometimes would come to me and started bullying me. As weird as it seems, it wasn't really bullying. He would block my path and draw me into a corner to grab me, while saying to me: "I will release you when you say you are a girl", "Say it!", and so on. He never hurt me. I was clueless my whole life. If only I had listened to him back then... I think he saw for what I was, and am today. Some 20 years later I finally accepted it. Back then I did not know he was a transguy. I just thought he was a guy. It is a strange story, but I've mulled over it's meaning for way too long. So I thought I share it.
What do you think?
Title: Re: I should have listened to him...
Post by: palexander on November 27, 2014, 07:44:59 PM
Post by: palexander on November 27, 2014, 07:44:59 PM
Quote from: PinkCloud on November 27, 2014, 07:10:15 PM
A short story about my encounter...
I was around 11 years old. There was this transguy in my town, he was about 5 years older than me. When I played outside he sometimes would come to me and started bullying me. As weird as it seems, it wasn't really bullying. He would block my path and draw me into a corner to grab me, while saying to me: "I will release you when you say you are a girl", "Say it!", and so on. He never hurt me. I was clueless my whole life. If only I had listened to him back then... I think he saw for what I was, and am today. Some 20 years later I finally accepted it. Back then I did not know he was a transguy. I just thought he was a guy. It is a strange story, but I've mulled over it's meaning for way too long. So I thought I share it.
What do you think?
you were a kid... you can't hold that against yourself now. keep in mind that he was wrong to grab you and forcibly attempt to make you out yourself. and anyway, as a young child, most don't know the proper terminology; you feel it, but don't know what it is.
Title: Re: I should have listened to him...
Post by: Athena on November 27, 2014, 08:22:06 PM
Post by: Athena on November 27, 2014, 08:22:06 PM
Really creepy even if he was trying to help.
Title: Re: I should have listened to him...
Post by: blink on November 28, 2014, 01:27:53 AM
Post by: blink on November 28, 2014, 01:27:53 AM
Quote from: White Rabbit on November 27, 2014, 08:22:06 PMYeah, I've no way of knowing the intention behind it but the behavior's not appropriate. It's nobody's place to tell someone else their gender in such a way.
Really creepy even if he was trying to help.
Title: Re: I should have listened to him...
Post by: Athena on November 28, 2014, 08:49:35 AM
Post by: Athena on November 28, 2014, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: blink on November 28, 2014, 01:27:53 AM
It's nobody's place to tell someone else their gender in such a way.
Ever!
It might be ok to suggest maybe you might want to look into other options but never to outright tell you or in this case to force you to say what he thinks.
Title: Re: I should have listened to him...
Post by: Lostkitten on November 28, 2014, 09:03:54 AM
Post by: Lostkitten on November 28, 2014, 09:03:54 AM
Doesn't really sound as if he was trying to help you =/.
Title: Re: I should have listened to him...
Post by: Tysilio on November 28, 2014, 10:32:21 AM
Post by: Tysilio on November 28, 2014, 10:32:21 AM
QuoteAs weird as it seems, it wasn't really bullying.
It was bullying. No one who actually wanted to help would ever act that way. It sounds like this guy had some real problems.
Title: Re: I should have listened to him...
Post by: peky on November 28, 2014, 10:48:15 AM
Post by: peky on November 28, 2014, 10:48:15 AM
Quote from: PinkCloud on November 27, 2014, 07:10:15 PM
A short story about my encounter...
I was around 11 years old. There was this transguy in my town, he was about 5 years older than me. When I played outside he sometimes would come to me and started bullying me. As weird as it seems, it wasn't really bullying. He would block my path and draw me into a corner to grab me, while saying to me: "I will release you when you say you are a girl", "Say it!", and so on. He never hurt me. I was clueless my whole life. If only I had listened to him back then... I think he saw for what I was, and am today. Some 20 years later I finally accepted it. Back then I did not know he was a transguy. I just thought he was a guy. It is a strange story, but I've mulled over it's meaning for way too long. So I thought I share it.
What do you think?
So, how did you come to discover that he was a transguy
Title: Re: I should have listened to him...
Post by: PinkCloud on November 28, 2014, 06:26:24 PM
Post by: PinkCloud on November 28, 2014, 06:26:24 PM
Thanks for the replies.
Much later I learned he was previously born a girl, years later, that rumor was being spread. I grew up in a small town so eventually everyone knew. I did not understand any of it by then. Never heard about anyone who transitioned, I was really ignorant and young I guess.
Yes, I now see how it actually was bullying... he grabbed and shook me, telling me to confess. The weird thing is though, I kept saying I was a boy. When I look back, I try to make sense of it... At the one hand, he might saw something about me that I wasn't even sure of myself... maybe he was trying to help me in some weird way... or maybe not. I am not even sure why I am telling this, it's just something from my past, a piece of the puzzle.
Much later I learned he was previously born a girl, years later, that rumor was being spread. I grew up in a small town so eventually everyone knew. I did not understand any of it by then. Never heard about anyone who transitioned, I was really ignorant and young I guess.
Yes, I now see how it actually was bullying... he grabbed and shook me, telling me to confess. The weird thing is though, I kept saying I was a boy. When I look back, I try to make sense of it... At the one hand, he might saw something about me that I wasn't even sure of myself... maybe he was trying to help me in some weird way... or maybe not. I am not even sure why I am telling this, it's just something from my past, a piece of the puzzle.
Title: Re: I should have listened to him...
Post by: Alexthecat on November 29, 2014, 07:10:52 AM
Post by: Alexthecat on November 29, 2014, 07:10:52 AM
You could always track him down and ask.
Title: Re: I should have listened to him...
Post by: Orangaline on November 29, 2014, 05:40:55 PM
Post by: Orangaline on November 29, 2014, 05:40:55 PM
Quote from: PinkCloud on November 28, 2014, 06:26:24 PM
Thanks for the replies.
Much later I learned he was previously born a girl, years later, that rumor was being spread. I grew up in a small town so eventually everyone knew. I did not understand any of it by then. Never heard about anyone who transitioned, I was really ignorant and young I guess.
Yes, I now see how it actually was bullying... he grabbed and shook me, telling me to confess. The weird thing is though, I kept saying I was a boy. When I look back, I try to make sense of it... At the one hand, he might saw something about me that I wasn't even sure of myself... maybe he was trying to help me in some weird way... or maybe not. I am not even sure why I am telling this, it's just something from my past, a piece of the puzzle.
dont beat yourself up about it, its in the past and you cant change it now :)
Title: Re: I should have listened to him...
Post by: StirfriedKraut on November 30, 2014, 02:52:45 AM
Post by: StirfriedKraut on November 30, 2014, 02:52:45 AM
Weird is definitely a good word for it, kind of unsettling. Sounds more like the guy was projecting his problems on to you as a form of validation for both him and you. Odd is definitely a good term. I far from agree with the actions, as pure as his motives probably were in his head. What matters is that you can look back at it and see it as a weird kind of stepping stone towards understanding.