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Just when you think society might be on its way out of the red and into Sane levels,
one of these slimy hateworms emerges from the fetid caverns of Mother Earth's intestines.
There's got to be an antibiotic/anti-parasitic serum somewhere.

Arizona pastor predicts 'AIDS-free Christmas' if all gays are killed, as God commands

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A Baptist pastor in Tempe, Arizona called for the mass extermination of LGBT people on
Sunday in a sermon entitled "AIDS: The Judgement of God."

http://bit.ly/15P39Ke

I hope he's Christian so I can throw a "Well Jesus said jack ->-bleeped-<- about LGBTAPQ people, so what are you doing??" curveball his way(I'm Irish and have made this analogy)

Even then, these are the kinds of people we should laugh at, but be very wary of. Considering that the Republicans steamrolled the Democrats in that recent election, a Red president could be voted into office, and if it was this guy, well, I think we can agree, that, to some extent, you guys in the States'd have a harder time than you are now

When will people get through their thick-ass skulls that HIV is not exclusive to "gays".   Lesbians have a very low infection rate, yet they commit the same "sin".

What about all of the heterosexuals who get it?

It's mostly promiscuity that leads to infection, not homosexuality.   I know lots of gay men, some in longtime committed relationships.  None are HIV+.

Wait, wasn't there a commandment about not killing people?  *le facepalm*

Christians: Oh yeah.... That. Well, our holy book is technically just the new testament soooo, that doesn't really apply to us
Us: *le facepalm indeed*

Quote from: Jill F on December 03, 2014, 03:32:47 PM
When will people get through their thick-ass skulls that HIV is not exclusive to "gays".   Lesbians have a very low infection rate, yet they commit the same "sin".

What about all of the heterosexuals who get it?

It's mostly promiscuity that leads to infection, not homosexuality.   I know lots of gay men, some in longtime committed relationships.  None are HIV+.

Wait, wasn't there a commandment about not killing people?  *le facepalm*

HIV is far more prominent in hetero coitus, and even more so through drug use.

Listen to what this OB/GYN from my city (Houston) says whose primary patients are LGBT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wbwhO1wlLA

Fifty bucks says that dude's hard drive is pretty much a gay pornucopia.

Yeah, dude, since you said that we'd NEVER suspect you're actually gay.

Quote from: fitzyfoop on December 03, 2014, 03:31:30 PM
Even then, these are the kinds of people we should laugh at, but be very wary of. Considering that the Republicans steamrolled the Democrats in that recent election, a Red president could be voted into office, and if it was this guy, well, I think we can agree, that, to some extent, you guys in the States'd have a harder time than you are now

America is the glorious effigy of cognitive dissonance thanks to all the imbeciles that somehow (nepotism and cronyism) get jobs in positions of authority. We'd have a stabler government if it was run by schizophrenic ferrets.

Whom would Jesus kill?

/snark

Even though I'm an atheist, Jesus seemed like a really nice guy, and he probably wouldn't have killed anyone, he would have disowned the people who are homophobic/transphobic

That's what happens when people self appoint themselves as preachers with no qualifications other than having memorized the old testament.

The scary thing though was he got quite a few "amens" from his congregation when he said that.


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Almost makes me ashamed to be an Arizonan.

It's fine to have your faith, but this is the news section, not the Good News section.  >:-)

Quote from: Hanazono on December 03, 2014, 09:57:08 PM
answer:
Himself. He was neither murdered or killed but submitted Himself to the Father's will as a sacrifice once and for all to blot out every human sin.

don't ever mix up Christ with Christians or "Christians". you'll know good tree by it's fruit. This alleged pastor doesn't have a full revelation of Christ's Love. if you're Christian and reading this, do join me in prayer for this man to receive wisdom and revelation.

I'm sorry, but some people are just like this, and generally use their faith to justify their actions and views, which is really stupid. We need to teach our children to not be like this guy

I actually watched the entire sermon on live-stream this past Sunday.  Call me crazy or hate me for this, but I actually do follow this pastor and it is because of him that I am stronger in my faith.  I  became a Christian through his ministry and he has changed my life forever for the good.  I believe he is right on 98 percent on the things he preaches, but unfortunately when it comes to his stance on the LBGT community (which is far left for even many conservative Christians), that is one area where I STRONGLY disagree with him on, and even find his harsh stance to be quite unbiblical.

In this particular sermon, he also did rail on heterosexual people that has the disease.

Quote from: King Malachite
In this particular sermon, he also did rail on heterosexual people that has the disease.

Well, then I guess he damned my father who died from HIV in 1988 after a contaminated blood transfusion.

If I wasn't a Christian already I certainly would never consider it after listening to that fool.



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  I came across this pastor while surfing YouTube on the different theories of those whom preach about the end times. His was one I called in the "Post Tribulation Rapture" camp. His presentations ran together too quickly and he supported a tax evader/evangelist named Kent Hovard. That and other presentations by this pastor had many recorded phone interviews with Mr. Hovard from different prison phones. Google Mr. Hovard's name and find out how many prison facilities he and his wife has been in.
  I tracked HIV/AIDS since it was an unknown killer. It was once blamed on the use of amyl nitrate by the gay community, who were quite promiscuous at that time. I had a subscription of the magazine Nature at the time and found early on it is a disease of the promiscuous. In Africa, it was a heterosexual disease caused by the male migratory economy in these third world countries. It wiped out all of the adults of certain villages, leaving all of the children orphaned. Here in the US, a lot of those infected brought it home to their spouses. This is where I part from him condemning those heterosexuals who get it.  What about a person who got it from an unfaithful spouse? HIV doesn't kill as quickly as before due to mutation over time, but still kills and cause other illnesses due to the weakened immune system.

  Joelene

Quote from: Illuminess on December 03, 2014, 03:15:27 PM
Just when you think society might be on its way out of the red and into Sane levels,
one of these slimy hateworms emerges from the fetid caverns of Mother Earth's intestines.
There's got to be an antibiotic/anti-parasitic serum somewhere.

Arizona pastor predicts 'AIDS-free Christmas' if all gays are killed, as God commands

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2Frs%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F12%2FPastor-Steven-Anderson-via-Facebook1-800x430.png&hash=e8edd093ee683ef4228cb3e54dc442536a1c2a92)

A Baptist pastor in Tempe, Arizona called for the mass extermination of LGBT people on
Sunday in a sermon entitled "AIDS: The Judgement of God."

http://bit.ly/15P39Ke

That's inciting violence.  He could be arrested for that and I hope is.  Inciting violence is not protected speech.

A man of the cloth advocating for the genocide of a minority class of people for any reason is abhorrent and repugnant. He has clearly lost sight of who Jesus was and what he stood for. Also I find it odd (and perhaps a bit self serving) that this guy is cherry picking verses from writings that were aimed and directed at the special duties of the Levites - writings that mainly concerned the service of worship at the Jewish tabernacle - and applying them to modern day Christians.

Where is his compassion?

Yeah this prove that religions have nothing to do with god.
BIG problem for all that believe only muslims are fanaticals.
Can only gues how his christmas speech wil be.

By the same token and logic: Why is he so worried about Aids... if he isn't gay?

The Bible also calls for stoning those caught in adultery. Would probably wipe out a percentage of his church.

Preachers like these are why I'll NEVER join another Baptist Church.

Don't worry dude, I won't set foot in your church.

Actually Jesus hang around the people that society hated the most. He hung around criminals, tax collectors, bad sinners. I truly believe that Jesus's actions indicate he would have been an LGBT+ ally.

Quote from: fitzyfoop on December 03, 2014, 03:59:45 PM
Even though I'm an atheist, Jesus seemed like a really nice guy, and he probably wouldn't have killed anyone, he would have disowned the people who are homophobic/transphobic

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this kind of drastic action against one particular segment of the population sound a lot like Adolf Hitler?

Quote from: awilliams1701 on December 04, 2014, 01:44:57 PM
Actually Jesus hang around the people that society hated the most. He hung around criminals, tax collectors, bad sinners. I truly believe that Jesus's actions indicate he would have been an LGBT+ ally.

Yes. And without Judas, his little ploy would have failed. Judas also sacrificed himself, in some way... a clue: no light without darkness, never mind, I get too philosophical again...

Quote from: awilliams1701 on December 04, 2014, 01:46:02 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this kind of drastic action against one particular segment of the population sound a lot like Adolf Hitler?

Yeah, but time and time again, conservatives have said all sorts of ->-bleeped-<- about LGBT people, and most of us have just learnt to laugh at them

Quote from: fitzyfoop on December 05, 2014, 02:20:11 AM
Yeah, but time and time again, conservatives have said all sorts of ->-bleeped-<- about LGBT people, and most of us have just learnt to laugh at them

Yes, true.

But the same was also said in Germany in the 1930's when a total kook advocating wiping out a particular religion. People laughed at him. Once he actually started carting away those folks in cattle cars to gas chambers, no one was laughing any more.

When someone advocates mass murder in the name of good, I find it impossible not to take seriously. The man should be arrested.

Quote from: fitzyfoop on December 05, 2014, 02:20:11 AM
Yeah, but time and time again, conservatives have said all sorts of ->-bleeped-<- about LGBT people, and most of us have just learnt to laugh at them

Please, not all conservatives are socio-pathic fundy preachers. I'm Fiscally, conservative, socially open-minded.

Quote from: Illuminess on December 03, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
America is the glorious effigy of cognitive dissonance thanks to all the imbeciles that somehow (nepotism and cronyism) get jobs in positions of authority. We'd have a stabler government if it was run by schizophrenic ferrets.

I own schizophrenic ferrets, and I back this idea 100%.

Quote from: suzifrommd on December 05, 2014, 07:55:34 AM
Yes, true.

But the same was also said in Germany in the 1930's when a total kook advocating wiping out a particular religion. People laughed at him. Once he actually started carting away those folks in cattle cars to gas chambers, no one was laughing any more.

When someone advocates mass murder in the name of good, I find it impossible not to take seriously. The man should be arrested.

What was said about Germany was best summed up:

"In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."

-- by Martin Niemöller, prominent German anti-Nazi theologian and Lutheran pastor

I watched the two videos showing snippets of this "pastors" sermon.  To say he has missed the point is a gross understatement.  He would eliminate ANYBODY under the LGBTIQQA umbrella and think he was doing right.  As Suzi has said making public proclaimations like this is a crime and he should be arrested.

He has been investigated by the Secret Service because he has publically prayed for the demise of the President.  He must have missed arrest for that by the skin of his teeth.  The Bible specifically commands Christians to pray FOR those in authority - and in those days the ones in authority were really difficult to pray for.  So he fully misses much of the teaching of the Bible he is trying to thump.

Sorry for the rant -- this makes me sick.

It would appear that sooner rather than later I am going to need to come out in my church and speak as an advocate for LGBTIQQA.  At least the leadership in my church is not like this guy by a long sea mile, and they have taken the word "Baptist" out of the name of the church.


Erin

Quote from: traci_k on December 05, 2014, 08:19:20 AM
Please, not all conservatives are socio-pathic fundy preachers. I'm Fiscally, conservative, socially open-minded.

It's become easy to lump all conservatives together as having the same overall perspectives, and that's largely due to us basing our own on what we see in the behavior of politicians. The thing is, being successful in politics requires one to forfeit a lot of genuine values, so you rarely get anyone in office who can do anything beneficial for society whether they want to or not. The same goes for liberal politicians. Both parties have some great ideas and equally some really bad ones. More often than not, though, they really have no idea how to make the good ones work; and the higher up you go the more you're expected to comply with the agenda of those above you. All we ever do, in response, is react emotionally, and base our opinions of each candidate on what they decide to say. Whether or not any of it is true, we always support the one whose words evoke the most feel-good emotions. We completely disregard all of the bad things they do — and all of the promises they've neglected to keep — because it's just easier to fawn over some avatar than to think about anything or to consider reclaiming responsibility for the social and economical direction of our country.

When you think about it, politicians and preachers are pretty much in the same line of work. People often idolise them more than what they're supposed to represent, they refrain from talking about the true origins of their doctrines, they want your money, and often don't even believe their own words as the whole thing is more often just a profit charade. Both spew cleverly arranged "sermons" that make you forgo reason for a heightened emotional response that ensures your unquestioning devotion to them and their version of reality.

Our political systems today are too defective and chaotic to genuinely embrace the idea of liberty and equality. Personally, I think they were designed that way. Everything needs to be radically revised, but that's a discussion for a time and place that isn't here. One of the biggest things to go, though, is the attempts to base policy (even loosely) on religious belief. I'm not saying that religion as a whole is a bad thing, but religions that are self-righteous are a bane to social equality. The Gnostic path of Christianity has always been far more inclusive, but that was stamped into the dust by the hardcore monotheistic kings and conquerors who shaped what Christianity is today. That has allowed people like this guy from Arizona to surface as a pastor with such hostile views. As others have already said, I'm pretty sure Jesus (if he existed) would not behave this way.

Judge not lest ye be judged.

And what about John 8:10-11? He who has not sinned, cast the first stone.

Jesus stood up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more."

These preachers obsess way too much on the old laws of Leviticus which only applied to the people at that time, and not as some kind of "moral" guideline. The Bible is a collection of poetry, parable, personal experiences and observations, and highly metaphorical accounts of ancient history. It is NOT a manual of morality or of holy living. Yes, it has a lot of insight and philosophical merit, but should not be the ultimate go-to source for spiritual guidance.

Let it be one holy book among many, and allow true spiritual revelation to come from your own direct connection with God, whether you consider that the God of Abraham, the God/Goddess of paganism, "The Universe" or whatever. That's where we all find the truth, anyway. We know what is right intuitively. Whoever doesn't has no spirituality at all.

Quote from: Eva Marie on December 04, 2014, 09:06:26 AM
A man of the cloth advocating for the genocide of a minority class of people for any reason is abhorrent and repugnant. He has clearly lost sight of who Jesus was and what he stood for. Also I find it odd (and perhaps a bit self serving) that this guy is cherry picking verses from writings that were aimed and directed at the special duties of the Levites - writings that mainly concerned the service of worship at the Jewish tabernacle - and applying them to modern day Christians.

Where is his compassion?

This^^___^^ pretty much says it all and sums up how I feel on this subject. Thanks Eva, you saved me some typing!, lol!

Happy Holidays!

Ally :icon_flower:

Maybe I'm off base, but I love to see outrageous stuff like this. This kind of thing, in the minds of the majority of reasonable people, completely discredits LGBT opposition. As in "Yikes! Haven't thought much about it, but this guy's obviously batsh*t crazy and we don't need that kind of terrorist crap over here. Maybe those LGBT folks really do have a problem." With this out on the forever-net he'll never again be taken seriously about anything--something about advocating genocide tends to discredit one's rationality, not to mention any professions of being a good Christian and loving his fellow man. And he damn well better hope that one of his flock doesn't whack out and take action.

I know that photo of Cathy Brennan and her paper doll is priceless in any argument about feminist trans-misogyny. Or the whole wingnut "good rape" vs. "bad rape" deal--again, priceless when exchanging thoughts with Limbaugh-"libertarians".

It's kind of interesting watching the migration of reasonable people over to the LGBT rights side--leaving the shrill extremists and intellectually-challenged dregs.

Fortunately in the case of my sister who has rejected me and forced me to cut her off for now, I suspect your right. However there will be plenty of cultists that will flock to this jerk. I would suspect 95% of homophobes probably think this guy went to far, but the other 5% will love him for this.

Quote from: JulieM on December 05, 2014, 01:00:06 PM
Maybe I'm off base, but I love to see outrageous stuff like this.

There are a shockingly large number of people in the U.S. who would like to see LGBT people killed. If even one tenth of one percent decided that they would follow this guy's word and hope God would protect them from the consequences, that would be an army of 300,000 people out to slaughter us.

Think about the most psychotic person you know. Multiply that by hundreds of thousands and imagine them coming after YOU.

Still love to see this?

Methinks he doth protest too much.   Fifty bucks says he's no stranger to the glory hole and turns into Tappy McWidestance in the stalls.   Seriously, why is it the most vocally homophobic people I've ever known turned out to be gay or bi themselves?

And why is it that lesbians can't ever get equal hate time?  So. Not. Fair.

I just saw a study that both men and women (gay or straight) have no trouble finding women attractive even if they would never act on it. The same study showed that both men and women (gay or straight) were far less likely to find men attractive. That's why lesbians are accepted. Homophobes see gay men as just gross, but they see lesbians as super attractive and if they are a hetero male, they want in on it.

Any schmuck that wants to take me out, I say bring it. You won't make it past the doorway.

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on December 05, 2014, 04:20:23 PM
Any schmuck that wants to take me out, I say bring it. You won't make it past the doorway.

Bubonic plague is a b*tch, isn't it?

I think this guy is really full of sh_t.  He is no where NEAR being a true Christian.  If HE is the example of a Christian, then I want NOTHING to do with it.  Fortunately, he is one of satan's minions and the God I believe in loves all of us.  He understands us, He is there for us, He made us.  When this minion of the devil's at the pearly gates trying to break in to heaven, God is going to ask him 'why did you preach to murder my children?'.  When he stands there with his mouth open, nothing to say, unable to respond... he'll go where he belongs.  I honestly hope God gives this man a second chance, reincarnation.  But this time, place him as a turkey on a turkey farm near Thanksgiving day xD

Quote from: Jill F on December 05, 2014, 04:22:24 PM
Bubonic plague is a b*tch, isn't it?

:D :D

Yeah, I'm pretty sure AIDS didn't start/come from gay people. :P Such a misconception!

Quote from: Shana-chan on December 26, 2014, 10:21:17 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure AIDS didn't start/come from gay people. :P Such a misconception!

The HIV-1 prevalent in the US and other places probably came from a chimpanzee or a gorilla bite between 1915 to 1930 in Africa. The retrovirus was more benign back then before it started to show a more aggressive strain in the late 1960's and early 1970's. Most of the African nations had gained their independance from the European countries since the 1930's and their economic structures changed because of that. The males in the small subsistance farm villages migrated to the large cities such as Nairobi to get jobs for money, leaving the women and children on the farm. These men would spend some or a lot of their earnings on prostitutes and booze and then return to the farm during harvest with the little they earned. When the HIV strain roared in the early 1980's, it was spread to those African populations first then to the travelers who brought to the rest of the world. In Africa, being Gay is a death sentence often meted out on the spot of discovery to this day.
  The people who traveled from the afflicted parts of Africa then spread it through prostitutes and by bisexuals who linked it to the Gay community. The Gay community was quite promiscous during the 1980's, with the male Gays each having an average of about 37 different sexual partners a month. Of the original Gay choir "Boys in the Band", only one survived that epidemic. Today that disease crosses all sexual and ethnic lines with those countries with the more promiscous population with the higher infection rates. It is also transmitted through shared needles and from blood transfusions. Tennis great Arthur Ashe got it from a transfusion when he had a massive heart attack during the beginning of the US AIDS epidemic.
  Cats have a non-primate feline version called FIV, FeLV and FFV. FeLV causes leukemia in cats. There are vaccinations for these for your cat.

Joelene
 

This same guy just declared his hatred for "satanic" metal bands like Judas Priest, Pantera and Black Sabbath.

Get a clue, dude.  Apparently he wouldn't know a satanic band if it poked his bum with a pitchfork.

I'm also curious why he didn't mention Hall and Oates.

Quote from: Jill F on December 27, 2014, 05:18:09 PM
I'm also curious why he didn't mention Hall and Oates.

Hall and Oates aren't satanic, nothing that wholesome. They're a product of alien elder gods from outside of space and time, the mere thought of which drives most people irrevocably insane.

This guy, on the other hand is a more plebian evil, pandering to the prejudices of his followers to line his own pockets and stroke his ego.

This is one of the reasons I was afraid to come out in public growing up in a Catholic family. I have heard plenty of horrible things from the church but not this. He wants to kill LGBT people. How can he not get in trouble saying that like a threat?

No Offense but I'm glad I'm pagan lol

Quote from: Dawn B. on December 28, 2014, 12:56:40 AM
No Offense but I'm glad I'm pagan lol

To be fair, pagans have had their fair share of nutjobs as well. I've met a couple. It just goes to show that religion is a tool, and just like any other tool it can be used for good, or for bad.

I'm Pastafarian. We're perfectly sane.

Now if you'll excuse me I need to get my colander to put on for my new driver's license photo.

Generally speaking, Christians are good a playing up hate. Hellfire, brimstone, etc .. it's all about controlling your audience. I find it hilarious that more often than not they know more about Hell than Heaven. Makes me wonder what God they serve. I personally am a pagan, and that being said, I have never met a real Christian, and according to their theology, their God does not forgive people like me. He burns them. Preferably on a stake.
Of course there may be an exception to the general Christian population, but that exception is probably in a mental institution.

There are many kinds of Christians, many of them quite nice. The one thing they all have in common is that they think they are "real" Christians. Don't let the loudmouthed judgmental televangelists put you off. They can get so insular that they consider only those in their own congregation "real". See http://splitframeofreference.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-greatest-religious-joke-of-all-time.html

There are hateful people within any group regardless of religious affiliation or absence. However generalizations and presumptions of any group due to a vocal minority or majority does no one any good, and serves as a barrier to learning from and understanding others.

The sentiment expressed by this pastor is very common. I do not understand how a God that purportedly loves you, can create you the way you are, and then condemn you to eternal torture for it. At best, transitioning is seen as a mutilation, and at worst it is seen as homosexuality, fueled by unnatural lusts, and your choice to live outside of God's law; committing abomination after abomination. No I don't hate them, but I have had to defend myself from them. I am not a broken thing that needs rehabilitation or fixing. So please don't tell me about generalizations, because I seriously doubt that you have had any real life encounters with these self-righteous fanatics. And because we are outside the law of God, it is not a sin to kill us. In fact it is often encouraged in the old testament.  So in short, your conclusions are wrong. And if there was a person who follows Jesus Christ to the fullest possible extent, he or she would be heavily medicated and placed in a mental institution.

This thread is veering dangerously close to bashing and will be locked if it continues as such. Please review the TOS and keep things pleasant.

Quote from: Illuminess on December 03, 2014, 03:15:27 PM

Arizona pastor predicts 'AIDS-free Christmas' if all gays are killed, as God commands

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A Baptist pastor in Tempe, Arizona called for the mass extermination of LGBT people on
Sunday in a sermon entitled "AIDS: The Judgement of God."

http://bit.ly/15P39Ke

Hmmm, according to this guy, homosexuality is a sin but committing murder is okay based on his interpretation of religious beliefs and/or affiliation?

Wasn't there someone named Adolf who followed the same sort of logic years ago and managed to convince several others to help him murder over 6 million people?

According to Internet tradition, this thread is now over. Any reference to Hitler not in a thread about WW II, etc.

Actually this situation is very similar to was was going on then. Its just a different group being oppressed that's all.

Quote from: Dee Walker on December 30, 2014, 09:02:31 AM
According to Internet tradition, this thread is now over. Any reference to Hitler not in a thread about WW II, etc.

Quote from: Dee Walker on December 30, 2014, 09:02:31 AM
According to Internet tradition, this thread is now over. Any reference to Hitler not in a thread about WW II, etc.

...says the wise woman! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

It was the first thing I thought of when I saw this topic. It had nothing to do with the length of the thread. There is a definite parallel here.

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on December 30, 2014, 11:23:29 AM
...says the wise woman! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

The thread was Godwin'd so it should be locked.

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He should just come out already.

We, by letting this guy get to us only feed his bigotry. I myself after first reading this thread early on had forgotten about this pastor and moved on. I'm only reminded of it now by reading new posts and stumbling across this thread. By all means I'm not saying do nothing, I'm just saying let us not argue amongst ourselves over it or because of it.

Best Wishes Everyone.
Ally :)

He is insane he should be locked up until he gets the help he needs.

I know this is a sensitive subject but let's avoiding bashing please.