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Title: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on December 16, 2014, 01:14:12 AM
Post by: Mackan on December 16, 2014, 01:14:12 AM
I recently had metaoidplasty (Im gonna refer to it as meta) on 9th of December.
I don't have a blog or anything of that sort but I do want to share my experience somehow with those interested. So I decided to do that here. And maybe keep this post as a sort of journal on my recovery and so on. I may use words as "vagina" and other words of the sort in my post, I don't mean to offend anyone it's simply to clearify what I mean for information puposes.
First of im going to tell which sort of meta surgery I had, I had a vaginectomy, scrotoplasty and uretheral lenghtening, My surgeon used tissue from the vagina to lenghten my urethra and the labia minora to support the new urethra and make my penis thicker. I had a hysterectomy a couple of years ago so there wasn't any need for that. In 6 months I'll get testicular implants and a mons resection, my surgeon said it would be better for my results and my recovery if I did that in an additional surgery 6 months after the origional one since there's a great change I may have a fistula or some other problem that needs correction so he can fix that while also putting my implants in and giving me a mons resection.
I've been in the hospital 1 week now and recovery has been hard. I will be going home today or tomorrow, Im going to meet with the surgeon today and we will discuss when I will be going home.
As far as results so far im very happy with how it looks, the first couple of days I was so swollen down there I couldn't tell what was what but since yesterday the swelling went down and I can now tell what's my scrotum , where my "vagina" used to be and where my penis beings and ends. I haven't been able to measure my penis properly but when I get home I will, but if I'd give an estimate I'd say it's around 6 cm flaccid. But like I said that's just an estimate..
English isn't my first language so I might not be fimiliar with all medical terms but I'll try my best and I hope my grammar has been understandable, feel free to ask my anything I'd be happy to share my experince.
Sincerely
/Marcus
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: rexyrex on January 09, 2015, 06:31:33 AM
Post by: rexyrex on January 09, 2015, 06:31:33 AM
Thanks for sharing. I'm planning to have a meta and I will follow this, please keep this updated thanks.
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on January 12, 2015, 02:09:49 PM
Post by: Mackan on January 12, 2015, 02:09:49 PM
Quote from: rexyrex on January 09, 2015, 06:31:33 AM
Thanks for sharing. I'm planning to have a meta and I will follow this, please keep this updated thanks.
I was trying to reply to your PM but for some reason it won't allow me... But feel free to ask me anything, I'll try and make an update soon on my progress. If u want you can send me a PM with your'e email and I'll email you if you don't feel comfortable asking certain questions on here.
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: mm on January 12, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
Post by: mm on January 12, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
hi Makan, your initial recovery sounded good. How are you doing now about a month later? You will need 15 posts before you an pm.
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on January 12, 2015, 05:07:34 PM
Post by: Mackan on January 12, 2015, 05:07:34 PM
At first I had A small infection because I had to keep the catheter in for 3 weeks, but the doctor said that's normal for youre body to get irritated by that. The First 3 weeks at home was really a pain in the *** to be honest. Recovery was hard and I had trouble walking because the catheter was pulling and I got a stinging feeling in my urethra everytime I was walking around, similar to the kind of feeling you get when you have a bladder infection and have to pee, but I tried to get up and about. After about 1.5 weeks at home I all of a sudden started to get really heavy bleeding from my urethra. I called the doctor and the told me to lay still and put a pillow under my butt to keep myself up so it might heal on its own. It didn't so I went to the doctor and the prescribed me some blood clotting type of medicine and after about 3 days on that I didn't bleed anymore.
But as soon as they pulled the catheter out all of that was fine and I had no issues with walking or bleeding anymore, the Doctor told me that there was no guarantee I was going to be able to pee on my own , and if I couldnt I had to go back to the hospital and get a new one put in. So I went home and didn't pee all day because I was to nervous to, and also I was afraid it might hurt or sting, and there was ofcourse the possibility I had a fistula. But at night I couldn't hold it anymore, so I went and it worked just fine. No pain and the pee was coming out just like it should, after that recovery has been great, each day im more and more mobile and today I can move around like normal.
I find it hard to sit and pee though, I can do it but it takes longer than if I would stand up, when I sit it more pours out rather than coming out in a stream. But when I stand up it's a steady stream. The only thing that makes ut hard to stand up is that 5 times out of 10 id make a mess, it's gonna take some practice but at least I know I will be able to do it in the future.
I still wear compressors in my boxers since the skin where the "vagina" use to be has some bleeding from that scar tissue, but it's not even a spoon full each day. I have bought some oil at the pharmacy that is suppose to help with softening up scar tissue and I have been applying that everyday for a couple of days now, that have made my penis come out further from my body and become bigger and the foreskin to pull back and not be so hard like it was before due to the scarring. It had also made my scrotum softer and I can tell some stitches are fading away from the middle of my scrotum. Im really happy with my results so far.
But as soon as they pulled the catheter out all of that was fine and I had no issues with walking or bleeding anymore, the Doctor told me that there was no guarantee I was going to be able to pee on my own , and if I couldnt I had to go back to the hospital and get a new one put in. So I went home and didn't pee all day because I was to nervous to, and also I was afraid it might hurt or sting, and there was ofcourse the possibility I had a fistula. But at night I couldn't hold it anymore, so I went and it worked just fine. No pain and the pee was coming out just like it should, after that recovery has been great, each day im more and more mobile and today I can move around like normal.
I find it hard to sit and pee though, I can do it but it takes longer than if I would stand up, when I sit it more pours out rather than coming out in a stream. But when I stand up it's a steady stream. The only thing that makes ut hard to stand up is that 5 times out of 10 id make a mess, it's gonna take some practice but at least I know I will be able to do it in the future.
I still wear compressors in my boxers since the skin where the "vagina" use to be has some bleeding from that scar tissue, but it's not even a spoon full each day. I have bought some oil at the pharmacy that is suppose to help with softening up scar tissue and I have been applying that everyday for a couple of days now, that have made my penis come out further from my body and become bigger and the foreskin to pull back and not be so hard like it was before due to the scarring. It had also made my scrotum softer and I can tell some stitches are fading away from the middle of my scrotum. Im really happy with my results so far.
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on January 12, 2015, 05:08:56 PM
Post by: Mackan on January 12, 2015, 05:08:56 PM
Quote from: mm on January 12, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
hi Makan, your initial recovery sounded good. How are you doing now about a month later? You will need 15 posts before you an pm.
Oh okay thanks I didn't know that ;D
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: mm on January 12, 2015, 11:41:52 PM
Post by: mm on January 12, 2015, 11:41:52 PM
Mackan, thanks for the infor on your good recovery. Catheters can be a real problem some times and you had yours so long no wonder you got an inflection from it. I have often wonder how it is to pee standing when you have an actual penis and can direct the stream. I can also see that it will take some practice since you are still healing along with everything being new standing holding your penis and the new feeling you will have. Must be great to look down and see a real penis and then not having that hole any more. I still get my monthly so know I have those internal parts yet. That oil you are using must be magic for the way it is improving everything down there. wish you the best and keep us informed on how you are doing.
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: LittleBoyBear on January 13, 2015, 12:22:11 AM
Post by: LittleBoyBear on January 13, 2015, 12:22:11 AM
Thanks so much for sharing. I'm panning on a Meta, so I'd like to follow your results.
Congrats on your penis! I hope your recovery gets better quickly!
-Bear
Congrats on your penis! I hope your recovery gets better quickly!
-Bear
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Beth Andrea on January 13, 2015, 12:30:12 AM
Post by: Beth Andrea on January 13, 2015, 12:30:12 AM
Sounds very interesting, to do the process in reverse of what we MtF's do...hope you don't mind if I follow your healing progress?
Writing one's name in the snow (in cursive!) is quite fun. :)
Quote from: mm on January 12, 2015, 11:41:52 PM
Mackan, thanks for the infor on your good recovery. Catheters can be a real problem some times and you had yours so long no wonder you got an inflection from it. I have often wonder how it is to pee standing when you have an actual penis and can direct the stream. I can also see that it will take some practice since you are still healing along with everything being new standing holding your penis and the new feeling you will have. Must be great to look down and see a real penis and then not having that hole any more. I still get my monthly so know I have those internal parts yet. That oil you are using must be magic for the way it is improving everything down there. wish you the best and keep us informed on how you are doing.
Writing one's name in the snow (in cursive!) is quite fun. :)
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: rexyrex on January 13, 2015, 04:23:37 AM
Post by: rexyrex on January 13, 2015, 04:23:37 AM
Sounds like all came out well apart from the problems but lest it not long term, I'm looking forward to able to stp without any packer. Also how long did you have to stay in hospital for? Where did you get this done?
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on January 13, 2015, 04:27:12 AM
Post by: Mackan on January 13, 2015, 04:27:12 AM
Quote from: Beth Andrea on January 13, 2015, 12:30:12 AM
Sounds very interesting, to do the process in reverse of what we MtF's do...hope you don't mind if I follow your healing progress?
Writing one's name in the snow (in cursive!) is quite fun. :)
I don't mind at all :)
haha I will definitely make sure to try that next winter :P
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on January 13, 2015, 04:32:27 AM
Post by: Mackan on January 13, 2015, 04:32:27 AM
Quote from: rexyrex on January 13, 2015, 04:23:37 AM
Sounds like all came out well apart from the problems but lest it not long term, I'm looking forward to able to stp without any packer. Also how long did you have to stay in hospital for? Where did you get this done?
I was suppose to leave the hospital after 1 week, But I live in Stockholm and I got the surgery done in Göteborg, so it's about 3.5 hours for me to get home if I take a fast train (one of them trains that takes you across country) So I ended up staying longer (1.5 weeks) , first beacuse I could hardly walk so I wasn't sure I would make it on my own once I got home, and second beacuse I was scared, it was nice to have all the nurses available just in case even though I didn't always need them.
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on January 13, 2015, 04:40:03 AM
Post by: Mackan on January 13, 2015, 04:40:03 AM
Quote from: mm on January 12, 2015, 11:41:52 PM
Mackan, thanks for the infor on your good recovery. Catheters can be a real problem some times and you had yours so long no wonder you got an inflection from it. I have often wonder how it is to pee standing when you have an actual penis and can direct the stream. I can also see that it will take some practice since you are still healing along with everything being new standing holding your penis and the new feeling you will have. Must be great to look down and see a real penis and then not having that hole any more. I still get my monthly so know I have those internal parts yet. That oil you are using must be magic for the way it is improving everything down there. wish you the best and keep us informed on how you are doing.
Yeah not having the hole part is actually the best for some reason, cus that part of me I was most dysphoric about out of everything. I don't know if it's the oil or if it's just me recovering that does it (swelling going down etc) I like to think I made a good buy thou since the oil was expensive (30 $) :P
Thank u for the kind words I will really try and keep this updated :)
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: mm on January 13, 2015, 10:39:36 AM
Post by: mm on January 13, 2015, 10:39:36 AM
Beth Andrea, I guess it take a cis guy to come up with "Writing one's name in the snow ", I would never have considered that. I was playing with boys all the time until high school and never saw or heard them talk about that, thou we only got a few inches of snow a winter. I heard and learned a lot from the boys growing up but they never peed around me always went in the tall grass and woods near where we played.
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on January 19, 2015, 04:48:10 AM
Post by: Mackan on January 19, 2015, 04:48:10 AM
So today I had an appointment with my surgeon to follow up on my progress. He mostly wanted to know about how I'm urinating, where the stream comes from and so on. So alot of questions about that, I do have a fistula next to the "exit" of my penis so when I stand up to pee it comes out both ways now. It hasn't been like that always its just recently. He said it might heal on it's own and I'm gonna visit him again in one month to see if it did or if it will need surgical repair.
It doesn't bother me that much since it's right where my urine comes out anyway, it would bother me more if I had urine flowing out from my scrotum or something. But I want to have it taken care of later either way of course ...
We then talked about what will be done next surgery apart from taking care if the fistula if that doesn't heal. He will do liposuction on the area above and do a mons resection to bring the whole package forward and up front, then he will trim down the outher labia surrounding my penis and of course put the implants in. My penis also leans to my right because I have more tissue on that side than on my left and he will take care of that too
It doesn't bother me that much since it's right where my urine comes out anyway, it would bother me more if I had urine flowing out from my scrotum or something. But I want to have it taken care of later either way of course ...
We then talked about what will be done next surgery apart from taking care if the fistula if that doesn't heal. He will do liposuction on the area above and do a mons resection to bring the whole package forward and up front, then he will trim down the outher labia surrounding my penis and of course put the implants in. My penis also leans to my right because I have more tissue on that side than on my left and he will take care of that too
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: mm on January 19, 2015, 01:24:33 PM
Post by: mm on January 19, 2015, 01:24:33 PM
Glad to hear you are doing well Mackan. I hope your fistula heals itself, that would be best and a nicest way have it self correct. Is it close enough to the normal opening that you can simply hold a finger over the hole and stop the urine from coming out? I hope you can have your final surgery soon.
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on January 19, 2015, 03:21:45 PM
Post by: Mackan on January 19, 2015, 03:21:45 PM
Thank you :)
Yes actually the fistula is right by the normal opening. The wierd part is that when I sit down and pee no urine comes out of the fistula only the normal opening. But when I stand up it comes from both, it use to not come from it when I stood up but I guess it does that now since the swelling when down some more. I guess ill sit down and pee for a couple of weeks to keep the urine out of there and hope that it will heal itself
Yes actually the fistula is right by the normal opening. The wierd part is that when I sit down and pee no urine comes out of the fistula only the normal opening. But when I stand up it comes from both, it use to not come from it when I stood up but I guess it does that now since the swelling when down some more. I guess ill sit down and pee for a couple of weeks to keep the urine out of there and hope that it will heal itself
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on January 24, 2015, 06:31:35 AM
Post by: Mackan on January 24, 2015, 06:31:35 AM
Update:
The day before yesterday I was out with some friends and had a couple of beers, so I was going to the bathroom and walked by the urinals to go to the stall. When I suddenly though ah what the hell im going to give it a go. Since it was not many people in the bar the chance of me getting disturbed wasn't that great. So I did it and I had absolutly no problem, It was great!!! It's acctually easier to pee at a urinal cus you don't have to aim or anything there's no way you'll miss and pee outside or anything. I liked it so much I could'nt wait until I had to go again :P Went twice that evening and one time there's was another guy in there but I just picked the urinal at the far end so we didn't really stand next to each other but still im super happy I had the confidence to try it :)
The day before yesterday I was out with some friends and had a couple of beers, so I was going to the bathroom and walked by the urinals to go to the stall. When I suddenly though ah what the hell im going to give it a go. Since it was not many people in the bar the chance of me getting disturbed wasn't that great. So I did it and I had absolutly no problem, It was great!!! It's acctually easier to pee at a urinal cus you don't have to aim or anything there's no way you'll miss and pee outside or anything. I liked it so much I could'nt wait until I had to go again :P Went twice that evening and one time there's was another guy in there but I just picked the urinal at the far end so we didn't really stand next to each other but still im super happy I had the confidence to try it :)
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on February 20, 2015, 07:18:12 PM
Post by: Mackan on February 20, 2015, 07:18:12 PM
Update: The fistula that I have right next to my actual pee hole doesn't seem to be going away on its own. On Monday I have another check up with my surgeon and I'm sure we will discuss the fact that he will remove it on my upcoming surgery.
Overall not much have happened, I have no leaking and everything has healed up so no more wearing pads which is a relief. I don't know if I actually needed to wear them for this long but I guess I was scared about possible leakage while at work.
I'm still applying vitamin E oil every now and then to soften the scar tissue which is pretty soft I think but the more I can soften it up the better my testicular implants will fit I think.
In general I'm pretty happy so far and I think i will be even more happy when I get the implants, just groping my groin now feels awesome because there's actually a package down there and I'm still in the wow stage about that
Overall not much have happened, I have no leaking and everything has healed up so no more wearing pads which is a relief. I don't know if I actually needed to wear them for this long but I guess I was scared about possible leakage while at work.
I'm still applying vitamin E oil every now and then to soften the scar tissue which is pretty soft I think but the more I can soften it up the better my testicular implants will fit I think.
In general I'm pretty happy so far and I think i will be even more happy when I get the implants, just groping my groin now feels awesome because there's actually a package down there and I'm still in the wow stage about that
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Bimmer Guy on February 20, 2015, 09:52:35 PM
Post by: Bimmer Guy on February 20, 2015, 09:52:35 PM
Glad that things are going well on the whole and you sound confident that the fistula will be fixed. Thanks for continuing to update the thread!
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: mm on February 21, 2015, 11:39:42 AM
Post by: mm on February 21, 2015, 11:39:42 AM
Thanks for the update, to bad the fistula didn't heal itself, hopefully the dr can fix it when you get your implants put in. Good to hear how it feel to have something down there, should be even better when you testes to feel also.
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: DeanJulian on February 21, 2015, 12:09:55 PM
Post by: DeanJulian on February 21, 2015, 12:09:55 PM
Thanks for sharing this, I'm possibly planning on a Meta some time in the future, so this is very interesting reading, thank you :)
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on February 21, 2015, 03:48:14 PM
Post by: Mackan on February 21, 2015, 03:48:14 PM
No problem guys, I'm happy to share :)
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on February 24, 2015, 07:38:29 AM
Post by: Mackan on February 24, 2015, 07:38:29 AM
I realize now how little I know about my "new" body. The first check up visit I had with my surgeon we talked about the fistula but he couldn't really see it properly because I wasn't healed enough for him to pull back the foreskin to see it.
This time he pulled it back really far, further than I ever have and asked me where the pee was coming from so I told him. From my actual pee hole and next to me pee hole there's a flow of urine too. He then said I don't have a fistula next to my pee hole like i thought and its just that my foreskin is to tight and is laying like a wrapper around it so it catches up some urine and that makes it flow from my pee hole and next to it. I was so relieved and I could tell he was very happy too because he smiled and said is the pee only coming from here and pointed too me penis I said yes, he said not from here? And pointed to where my peehole used to be before surgery (below the penis) I said no, then he said this is great so next surgery I will only do a moms resection and testicular implants and I will fix the foreskin so that the urine flows normally in one stream and don't splash around anymore. I could tell he was very happy because there was no fistula because its so common.
I also haven't had any strictures and I have no bladder infections etc so I feel that I can really relax and consider my surgery a success in every way even though my recovery wasn't the greatest.
The next surgery is going to be in June or July and I will see him again in May. I asked him if it would be okay if I started pumping and he told me to give it some more time and that I'm still healing.
This time he pulled it back really far, further than I ever have and asked me where the pee was coming from so I told him. From my actual pee hole and next to me pee hole there's a flow of urine too. He then said I don't have a fistula next to my pee hole like i thought and its just that my foreskin is to tight and is laying like a wrapper around it so it catches up some urine and that makes it flow from my pee hole and next to it. I was so relieved and I could tell he was very happy too because he smiled and said is the pee only coming from here and pointed too me penis I said yes, he said not from here? And pointed to where my peehole used to be before surgery (below the penis) I said no, then he said this is great so next surgery I will only do a moms resection and testicular implants and I will fix the foreskin so that the urine flows normally in one stream and don't splash around anymore. I could tell he was very happy because there was no fistula because its so common.
I also haven't had any strictures and I have no bladder infections etc so I feel that I can really relax and consider my surgery a success in every way even though my recovery wasn't the greatest.
The next surgery is going to be in June or July and I will see him again in May. I asked him if it would be okay if I started pumping and he told me to give it some more time and that I'm still healing.
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: mm on February 24, 2015, 02:04:25 PM
Post by: mm on February 24, 2015, 02:04:25 PM
Mackan, Great to hear you don't have a fistula. I expect it is hard to know how much pulling and probing you should be doing around your the surgery site as you don't want to disturb the healing. I saw some place once that uncircumcised guys pull back there foreskin to have better control of their pee flow and this may be what you will need to learn to do. Did it hurt when the dr pulled your foreskin back? I expect you are looking forward to June when you will have your final surgery.
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: Mackan on February 25, 2015, 05:28:29 AM
Post by: Mackan on February 25, 2015, 05:28:29 AM
Quote from: mm on February 24, 2015, 02:04:25 PM
Mackan, Great to hear you don't have a fistula. I expect it is hard to know how much pulling and probing you should be doing around your the surgery site as you don't want to disturb the healing. I saw some place once that uncircumcised guys pull back there foreskin to have better control of their pee flow and this may be what you will need to learn to do. Did it hurt when the dr pulled your foreskin back? I expect you are looking forward to June when you will have your final surgery.
Yeah exactly I guess I was just scared to do it like he did. I actually thought about that too :) I think ill start trying to pull it back when I pee and see if that helps, it didn't hurt but it felt weird because I never done it myself. I've only cleaned it in the shower by putting my finger in under the foreskin but never actually pulled it back.
Yeah I can't wait :D especially for the implants I think that will look/feel great to have them, and hopefully it will look like a nice bulge when I wear boxers, I always wished for that.
Title: Re: Sharing My Metoidioplasty Experience
Post by: camron on February 27, 2015, 08:22:33 PM
Post by: camron on February 27, 2015, 08:22:33 PM
Congrats! Hope all continues to go well. Keep us updated. Its good to get the first hands perspective since I plan to have this procedure done next year.
Camron
Camron