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Just wondering,my singing voice is in Johnny Cash's range lol

No, sorry hun. You'll have to practice altering your voice, and if you absolutely can't achieve a decent result there's surgical options to consider. Check out the Voice section of the forum for more info.

Ok thanks :)

Sadly, as has been said: no, estrogen will not alter your voice.

That said, with training incredible changes ARE possible it's just a lot of work, but well worth it!!!

There are a lot of great videos on youtube to help guide you and plenty of other resources online!

If you can train yourself to sing, you can train yourself to talk like a woman.  In my case it's more like Bea Arthur, but it works.

The best thing was that my singing got WAY better since I transitioned.  When my wife and I do Simon and Garfunkel, I do Garfunkel now.

There has been anecdotal and other evidence that there is some effect on the vocal cords but it isn't really all that significant from what I hear. Voice training and surgery are your best options.

My male voice is ~100hz which is below average. Through practice I have been told I have achieved a decent voice.

@Seras I hate to ask something this personal but could you record it so I could hear?If you don't want to it's totally fine.

No problem. I put my voice all over the place. Here is a recording I made for you. It is 5am here though because I am semi insomniac and this is the first take so yea. I think it sounds OK though.

https://soundcloud.com/olivia1988-1/mackenzie/s-6NQVl

I dunno. My voice box seems to have constricted. It feels different.

I know it shouldn't happen but my voice has gone up about two octaves.

Only had minimal self-training, too (reading a book out loud in a painfully high voice for 5 minutes, drop to a comfortably high pitch for another 30 minutes).

I just kinda woke up one day with my old voice gone! :~o

Quote from: SarahBoo on January 04, 2015, 11:43:10 PM
I dunno. My voice box seems to have constricted. It feels different.

I know it shouldn't happen but my voice has gone up about two octaves.

Only had minimal self-training, too (reading a book out loud in a painfully high voice for 5 minutes, drop to a comfortably high pitch for another 30 minutes).

I just kinda woke up one day with my old voice gone! :~o

Yay, lucky you Sarah... wish mine had...

Gotten a little softer, and has raised in pitch in raised voice scenario's.... but no general tone has not moved up any octaves  :'(

L Katy

Dang Seras,just now listened.Very good,you pass very well.Thanks

Its ok :)

Still a work in progress! Thanks though! Had 2nd appointment with my voice therapist today. I did all that there by myself and if I can I reckon pretty much anyone can.

http://www.spreaker.com/user/7844451/seras
That's a recording of me.

My advice is just train,train, train, I went from a median 80hz to about 220hz in the span of 5 months, all my co-workers thought it was just something that the hormones did :)

What do you think of my recording?I attempt to pass towards the end but fail lol

I'd say totally passable, just slightly nasal and I'd add a bit more inflection but you are quite well into the ballpark, not sure what the first half was all about though :p

Quote from: Makenzie on January 05, 2015, 09:23:42 PM
What do you think of my recording?I attempt to pass towards the end but fail lol

I was showing what my regular voice is.I haven't practiced or anything,I could go into that more girly voice mostly because I am a trained singer lol.I've got a long way to go though :)

I've been working with a voice therapist for about three or four months and I've started to male fail even when I open my pie hole. My throat has been remarkably cooperative about the whole thing and my normal speaking voice started to become lighter after just a couple voice training sessions.

The thing to remember is that even though pitch is a major contributing factor, it's not all about that. It's about timbre, the way you form your voice and even how you speak as much if not sometimes more than just pitch. There are plenty of low voiced ciswomen out there after all and they're not thought of as men.

It took me a year, almost exactly, to have a pretty much perfect voice. I actually sound kind of like my Mother, LOL!

I watched videos on youtube, used some pitch training android apps, and practiced CONSTANTLY. I make a lot of phone calls at work, so I worked on my phone voice while doing those....sang Lady Gaga in the car everywhere I went...read books out loud, and eventually just stopped using my old voice entirely. Now it is an effort to even use the old one...I don't even think about my new voice anymore. It is just a natural part of me.

Hardest parts were getting involuntary sounds to work with the feminine voice (coughing, sneezing, etc), and maintaining the voice with a cold / flu / sore throat.

The whole voice thing was unbearably frustrating. There were several times I wanted to cry in frustration. But I never gave up...how could I?? And now I have a voice that I really love, and have been told by many is "pleasant", "enjoyable" and "soothing" to listen to.

These videos helped me probably more than anything else, incidentally.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDEE21E31322DA699 (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDEE21E31322DA699)

Will estrogen change your voice? Almost certainly no.

Can estrogen change voices? Absolutely and it is verified and documented in post-menopausal women who see voice drops and the voice returns to a higher pitch after beginning estrogen therapy.

Does this mean estrogen can change MtF voices? Maybe, but the odds are so low and the likely change is so minimal that you should plan on extensive retraining or VFS (or both).

True,maybe my training as a pro singer will help me haha.I am scared of the surgery,but I will do what I gotta do :)

With the amount of voice control you have exhibited in that clip I really would not recommend surgery at this early stage, it would greatly constrict your range. I think you will be able to do it easily, I think your first attempt in the clip was nothing short of brilliant.