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Title: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Kellam on March 08, 2015, 10:18:17 AM
Post by: Kellam on March 08, 2015, 10:18:17 AM
One of the only good things about being a boy to the rest of the world is that I was alowed in the Boy Scouts. I have always been a tomboy and the opportunity to go hiking and camping regularly without my folks was great. Some of the paramilitary, anger centric man crap got to me but on the whole it was a good experience. I did not do well with the power structure, I prefer cooperation. And once I had gone on the biggest trip you could take in my troop I quit. I knew I didn't belong there and it was getting awkward. I made it all the way to First Class and the Order of the Arrow. I had the requirements to make Life but First was the only requirement for my trip to Philmont, the big trip.
Anybody else?
Anybody else?
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Devlyn on March 08, 2015, 10:34:35 AM
Post by: Devlyn on March 08, 2015, 10:34:35 AM
Cub Scouts, then Boy Scouts, then US Army. Be prepared. :) Best memory? Pinewood Derby! That, and live firing missiles at Crete.
Hugs, Devlyn
Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Kellam on March 08, 2015, 10:52:42 AM
Post by: Kellam on March 08, 2015, 10:52:42 AM
I'm a pinewood derby champ! One of my favorite moments was a weekend orienteering meet between all the local scout troops, boy and girl. The girls destroyed us! All the guys were crushed and I was secretly proud.
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Megan Rose on March 08, 2015, 11:34:08 AM
Post by: Megan Rose on March 08, 2015, 11:34:08 AM
Eagle scout here. Looking back at the propaganda that I accepted in the name of achievement, I'm not so happy about it.
But, my father was scoutmaster. His experience of living on the land away from civilization was invaluable, scouting was one of the few times he took away from work. That experience of going into the mountains where trails didn't exist was priceless, and I enjoy it to this day...
But, my father was scoutmaster. His experience of living on the land away from civilization was invaluable, scouting was one of the few times he took away from work. That experience of going into the mountains where trails didn't exist was priceless, and I enjoy it to this day...
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: CaptFido87 on March 08, 2015, 12:11:48 PM
Post by: CaptFido87 on March 08, 2015, 12:11:48 PM
I am a proud eagle scout myself. I went all the way through cub scouts and got my arrow of light. In pine wood derby I got first place 3 out of 5 years. I even went to compete in regionals. Than I went to boy scouts, like I said made it to eagle. Also I made vigil honor in the order of the arrow. I lived my life around scouting. I spent at least 14 years all together in scouting and even got some people to stay and work their way to eagle. What I am most proud of is my group in cub scouts all got eagle except 1 person who quit after cub scouts. There were 4 out 5 from my first group and when we merged with another group there were 8 of us all together. 7 of us got eagle. It was a realm cool moment for me.
I will be a little sad though when I transition and or basically becomes void. At least I'll still have the memories
I will be a little sad though when I transition and or basically becomes void. At least I'll still have the memories
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: VisorDown on March 08, 2015, 12:39:03 PM
Post by: VisorDown on March 08, 2015, 12:39:03 PM
Not a scout, but former member of Girl Guiding UK. I was a Guide, Girl Guide leader and I worked with the Brownies as an assistant leader before I left.
Didn't actually sign up by choice. I wanted to join the Air Cadets but my dad refused on the grounds of "you're a girl, they'll sexually assault you". I had no money or way to travel there on my own. Didn't enjoy it and I had several of my worst life experiences there, one of which was where I was forced to attend a party -- "dresses, no jeans". Went onto leading the Brownies because if I quit straight after Guides my dad would've moaned about it until the sun farts out of existence.
Tempted to join the Air Cadets as a leader.
Didn't actually sign up by choice. I wanted to join the Air Cadets but my dad refused on the grounds of "you're a girl, they'll sexually assault you". I had no money or way to travel there on my own. Didn't enjoy it and I had several of my worst life experiences there, one of which was where I was forced to attend a party -- "dresses, no jeans". Went onto leading the Brownies because if I quit straight after Guides my dad would've moaned about it until the sun farts out of existence.
Tempted to join the Air Cadets as a leader.
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Eevee on March 08, 2015, 12:40:10 PM
Post by: Eevee on March 08, 2015, 12:40:10 PM
My dad made me go through cub scouts and boy scouts for years, but I really resented it. It was just another one of those "man things" my parents forced on me until I could find a way out. I actually like camping and the outdoors, but I didn't like being constantly pushed into social encounters with males who expected me to act like them. It was just like all the male sports teams I was forced into participate in while growing up. It's one of the contributing factors to my PTSD that several doctors keep telling me I have.
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: gennee on March 08, 2015, 03:44:28 PM
Post by: gennee on March 08, 2015, 03:44:28 PM
I was a boy scout. Made it to second class. What I enjoyed most was the hiking and the free time to do so. Am a nature buff. I can be at one with nature. I have Native American ancestry and it may be a reason I'm this way. The skills I learned I still use today.
:)
:)
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Joelene9 on March 09, 2015, 12:05:27 AM
Post by: Joelene9 on March 09, 2015, 12:05:27 AM
Boy scout, third class, Fox patrol. That lasted a couple of years then we moved to another area of town and I didn't join another troop. I remember that big hike to the camping area in a canyon in the mountains. I joined the Navy later. Be Prepared!
Joelene
Joelene
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: mac1 on March 09, 2015, 11:38:29 AM
Post by: mac1 on March 09, 2015, 11:38:29 AM
Quote from: Kellam on March 08, 2015, 10:18:17 AMStarted in Cub Scouts when 9 years old and progressed to Webelos. Joined Boy Scouts when 11 years old and spent the full number of years there before joining Explorer Scouts when I was old enough. Received Eagle when 17 years old during my senior year in high school and my final year in Explorer Scouts. Always wanted to go to Philmont but never had the opportunity. Went on several national hiking trails with my troop as a Boy Scout and helped to build one in the suburban Detroit area. Never joined "Order of the Arrow" when in Boy Scouts as the Scout Master favored his son and I was not part of the politics involved. Was never one for close boy-boy relationships and was shy toward boy-girl relationships.
One of the only good things about being a boy to the rest of the world is that I was alowed in the Boy Scouts. I have always been a tomboy and the opportunity to go hiking and camping regularly without my folks was great. Some of the paramilitary, anger centric man crap got to me but on the whole it was a good experience. I did not do well with the power structure, I prefer cooperation. And once I had gone on the biggest trip you could take in my troop I quit. I knew I didn't belong there and it was getting awkward. I made it all the way to First Class and the Order of the Arrow. I had the requirements to make Life but First was the only requirement for my trip to Philmont, the big trip.
Anybody else?
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Phoenix_2812 on March 09, 2015, 12:14:02 PM
Post by: Phoenix_2812 on March 09, 2015, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: VisorDown on March 08, 2015, 12:39:03 PM
Not a scout, but former member of Girl Guiding UK. I was a Guide, Girl Guide leader and I worked with the Brownies as an assistant leader before I left.
Didn't actually sign up by choice. I wanted to join the Air Cadets but my dad refused on the grounds of "you're a girl, they'll sexually assault you". I had no money or way to travel there on my own. Didn't enjoy it and I had several of my worst life experiences there, one of which was where I was forced to attend a party -- "dresses, no jeans". Went onto leading the Brownies because if I quit straight after Guides my dad would've moaned about it until the sun farts out of existence.
Tempted to join the Air Cadets as a leader.
Back in the early 90's I was a cub scout, but only for a few months if I recall. :(
Chris
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: ImagineKate on March 09, 2015, 02:36:24 PM
Post by: ImagineKate on March 09, 2015, 02:36:24 PM
Former sea scout here. We used to row rowboats into the bay. It was fun for a while.
I dropped out because my life turned to crap a couple years into secondary school.
I dropped out because my life turned to crap a couple years into secondary school.
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: marsh monster on March 09, 2015, 03:45:53 PM
Post by: marsh monster on March 09, 2015, 03:45:53 PM
cub scout and boy scout. I even went to a big state jamboree thing. Earned a few merit badges, but the main things I learned to do was drink and start fires with gas. We had an interesting group...
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: cindianna_jones on March 09, 2015, 03:58:47 PM
Post by: cindianna_jones on March 09, 2015, 03:58:47 PM
I got Eagle with two additional clusters. I was really into the merit badge thing. I thought they were fun. Additionally (as a teen), I served on the staff at a boy scout camp. I taught pioneering, botany, nature, conservation, astronomy, and a bunch of other stuff. I loved it. I suppose it was because I liked helping the other kids accomplish something. That made me feel really good. In later years, I sort of felt like it was a prep school for the military. But, while I was there, I ate it up.
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: LoriLorenz on March 09, 2015, 04:52:16 PM
Post by: LoriLorenz on March 09, 2015, 04:52:16 PM
I was in Brownies and Girl Guides here in Canada. I declined to move up after based on not wanting to camp in the snow! :D Here on the VERY Wet Cost, snow is cold, sloppy and often slushy and/or icy, so I was NOT keen on it, particularly after being part of a troupe that normally campped in the rain. The one time we had a sunny weekend was the time the leaders gave up and booked cabins. Lots of good memories and I still love camping in the rain and drizzle. (Now I just sleep in my car if it gets too wet!)
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: StrykerXIII on March 09, 2015, 05:14:38 PM
Post by: StrykerXIII on March 09, 2015, 05:14:38 PM
Dropped out shortly after making it to Eagle. Monthly dues were just getting too high. Damn shame, too. I had a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Dee Marshall on March 09, 2015, 05:38:59 PM
Post by: Dee Marshall on March 09, 2015, 05:38:59 PM
I dropped out when they tried to elect me senior patrol leader for the third time.
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Jill F on March 09, 2015, 08:02:38 PM
Post by: Jill F on March 09, 2015, 08:02:38 PM
I dropped out at about 16. It was fun for a bit while we just went hiking and camping all the time and didn't take the whole uniform/meeting/official scouting thing very seriously, but when we had a leadership shift, the uniforms, badges, ranks and official scout BS came back with a vengeance. The new leaders made President Reagan look like a pinko commie and were explicitly racist, sexist, and homophobic. I got tired of their religious hypocrisies and far-right political stuff pretty fast, but when the backpacking and camping trips got cut back from one a month to two a year, I was so out of there.
And yes, the one guy who actually took it seriously and did the whole Eagle Scout thing later came out as gay.
And yes, the one guy who actually took it seriously and did the whole Eagle Scout thing later came out as gay.
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: cindianna_jones on March 09, 2015, 08:10:00 PM
Post by: cindianna_jones on March 09, 2015, 08:10:00 PM
My scoutmaster later was discovered to be a child molester. He never did anyone in the troop. It ate out my guts because I had so much respect for him. Most of my fellow "scouts" made fun of him but I had my own problem to deal with and couldn't help but sympathize with him. In the Mormon faith where I grew up, being transsexual was a lot worse than being a child molester, so I really spent a lot of time on my knees praying for my problem to go away. It turns out my prayers were answered. Once someone discovered my problem and it became public knowledge, there was nothing that could keep the driving force of my desires from achieving my goal. I still feel bad for my scoutmaster. I know he ruined young lives. I get that. But I still have great compassion for him. I wish I could understand that.
Cindi
Cindi
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Kellam on March 09, 2015, 08:51:27 PM
Post by: Kellam on March 09, 2015, 08:51:27 PM
My scoutmasters were Vietnam vets (a couple of traumatized tunnel rats and big jerk of an artillery expert) they just sat in their chairs chainsmoking and drinking. I only had one close friend, in cub scouts, who quit before boy scouts. He came out as gay when we were in our 20's. I handled it badly though, he told me by saying he had a crush on me. He was the first male friend I lost because he only wanted sex from me, I was used to losing female friends for that reason. I don't like anyone being atracted to the man they see in me. I never hung out with anyone from my troop outside of the troop, same with school after 7th grade. I got very isolated.
Anyway, the best part of my Philmont trip was two days at the Grand Canyon. We hiked down to the bottom as the sun set and back out as the sun rose. Effing gorgeous! I wouldn't trade that for the world. At camp I signed up for the minimum requirements merit badge wise. I would never file my paperwork so I could keep taking the same classes each year. Rifelry, archery, small boat sailing and environmental science. I spent most of my time in my hammock.
My best week at camp was a punishment. I had accidentally thrown my hatchet through the canvass tent I was given to sleep in the week before. I ment for the hatchet to slide down the fabric and land on the palette next to my cot. It was sheathed. They didn't let me take any classes for a whole week. Instead I was put next to a gravel pile with a shovel. I loaded a pickup with the gravel. Then a scoutmaster would come and get me and he'd drive around looking for potholes for me to fill. All I remember is the blessed silence. No social anxiety. No one to relate to, just work to loose myself in.
I did mentor a den of cubscouts for a while too. I recall teaching them all how to tie a tie.
Anyway, the best part of my Philmont trip was two days at the Grand Canyon. We hiked down to the bottom as the sun set and back out as the sun rose. Effing gorgeous! I wouldn't trade that for the world. At camp I signed up for the minimum requirements merit badge wise. I would never file my paperwork so I could keep taking the same classes each year. Rifelry, archery, small boat sailing and environmental science. I spent most of my time in my hammock.
My best week at camp was a punishment. I had accidentally thrown my hatchet through the canvass tent I was given to sleep in the week before. I ment for the hatchet to slide down the fabric and land on the palette next to my cot. It was sheathed. They didn't let me take any classes for a whole week. Instead I was put next to a gravel pile with a shovel. I loaded a pickup with the gravel. Then a scoutmaster would come and get me and he'd drive around looking for potholes for me to fill. All I remember is the blessed silence. No social anxiety. No one to relate to, just work to loose myself in.
I did mentor a den of cubscouts for a while too. I recall teaching them all how to tie a tie.
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: twistedpixie on March 10, 2015, 06:55:43 PM
Post by: twistedpixie on March 10, 2015, 06:55:43 PM
I made it all the way through Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts. Even managed to reach Eagle Scout a couple weeks before my 18th birthday.
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: AbeLane on March 10, 2015, 06:58:47 PM
Post by: AbeLane on March 10, 2015, 06:58:47 PM
I was a Brownie in elementary school, but only for a few years. My mother didn't like the troop leader so she pulled me out. Not that I complained at all since I didn't really enjoy it. I always wanted to be a Boy Scout though cuz they did "cooler" stuff. Looking back now I know why I felt that way.
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Christy82 on March 10, 2015, 07:04:03 PM
Post by: Christy82 on March 10, 2015, 07:04:03 PM
I was in the cub scouts and then the boy scouts. I quit the boy scouts because I didn't fit in and hated it.
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: danielle28 on March 13, 2015, 10:15:43 PM
Post by: danielle28 on March 13, 2015, 10:15:43 PM
I am an eagle scout. I made two treks to philmont. The place is awesome everything from playing in the snow of a snow capped mountain to eating lunch with the wreckage of a crashed military plane. The programs are great. I loved every minute of my time in scouting. ;D
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Stevie Stevens on March 16, 2015, 01:34:12 PM
Post by: Stevie Stevens on March 16, 2015, 01:34:12 PM
I was in Cub Scouts then Boy Scouts and starting in my teen years I was doing gay things and dressing as a girl, but no one in Scouts had an inkling and what did it matter anyhow? I was actually a pretty good Scout, just missing Eagle because I turned 18 and did not have all the requirements done. But I did hold the office of junior assistant scoutmaster. Pretty good for someone who wanted to be a girl! Too bad I could not have been a Girl Scout though!
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Aubrey1day on March 17, 2015, 04:55:23 PM
Post by: Aubrey1day on March 17, 2015, 04:55:23 PM
I was also a Boy Scout, I loved it but really only because I am a huge fan of nature. My depressions and anxieties always melt way when out on a hike or just walking through the woods.
I loved the camping mostly but building a slot car with my dad was pretty fun too! I quit just before turning 12 though and really have not given in much thought since. I live in Arkansas "The natural state" and I still love those things. I imagine that will never change despite some iffy camping trips. Forgetting to water proof my tent then sleeping on a floating air mattress because of rain....that was fun. xD
I loved the camping mostly but building a slot car with my dad was pretty fun too! I quit just before turning 12 though and really have not given in much thought since. I live in Arkansas "The natural state" and I still love those things. I imagine that will never change despite some iffy camping trips. Forgetting to water proof my tent then sleeping on a floating air mattress because of rain....that was fun. xD
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: aleon515 on March 17, 2015, 05:51:04 PM
Post by: aleon515 on March 17, 2015, 05:51:04 PM
I was a brownie and girl scout. I liked the camping and that sort of thing. My mom was a girl scout leader and did try to socialize me with "charm school", I believe that was a low point. But I liked the very many less gendered activities.
BTW, the GSA and BSA are totally different types of organizations. GSA is very LGBT friendly and has admitted trans girl scouts, and is openly accepting of lesbians as leaders and troop members. TMK, the BSA is not and barely is accepting of gay boys due to it being quite a right wing group.
--Jay
BTW, the GSA and BSA are totally different types of organizations. GSA is very LGBT friendly and has admitted trans girl scouts, and is openly accepting of lesbians as leaders and troop members. TMK, the BSA is not and barely is accepting of gay boys due to it being quite a right wing group.
--Jay
Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: Kellam on March 17, 2015, 06:02:40 PM
Post by: Kellam on March 17, 2015, 06:02:40 PM
Yeah the BSA can be very disappointing politically and ethicly. If they only knew how many misfits they have produced though. For every George Bush Sr. there are a half dozen weirdos. And I don't mean anyone here is weird. I was in a noise band in my early 20's and our big project was breaking into an abandoned insane asylum to bash on stuff and make noise...music. While we were sitting on the morgue loading dock <eating sandwiches> I reflected on the fact that my brother and I had used skills learned in the Scouts to do our breaking and entering. The other two band members then mentioned that they were ex scouts as well.
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Title: Re: Any Former Scouts, Boy or Girl?
Post by: enigmaticrorschach on April 16, 2015, 01:32:23 PM
Post by: enigmaticrorschach on April 16, 2015, 01:32:23 PM
i made life scout. i'm grateful for boy scouts because if i ever needed to, i can survive in the wild longer than those who can't