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Title: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Dana88 on March 21, 2015, 10:20:51 AM
So! As some of you may know, I was on low dose E only HRT for three months. When I had my follow up and my levels hadn't really changed and my Endo said the 'numbers are irrelevant' I made an appt with a different endo. SO I got put on T-Blockers (finally) about a week and a half ago. Now my question is, boy parts downstairs have always been a huge source of dysphoria for me and I can't WAIT to eventually get SRS, but till then, how long on T-Blockers before downstairs stops coming alive unexpectedly?  :angel: Especially in the morning...  :P
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: michelle666 on March 21, 2015, 10:24:43 AM
I think that this is different for everyone. I'm on injections now and down there still works with a lot of inspiration.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Dana88 on March 21, 2015, 10:36:07 AM
Quote from: michelle666 on March 21, 2015, 10:24:43 AM
I think that this is different for everyone. I'm on injections now and down there still works with a lot of inspiration.

I'm only talking about spontaneous erections. Downstairs still working with some inspiration is fine  ;)
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: michelle666 on March 21, 2015, 10:44:12 AM
Quote from: Dana88 on March 21, 2015, 10:36:07 AM
I'm only talking about spontaneous erections. Downstairs still working with some inspiration is fine  ;)

Ah. Spontaneous went away after a few months. I would get them every now and then when I was on pills. With the injections, they never happen.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: mmmmm on March 21, 2015, 11:12:18 AM
If you're taking spiro, the spontaneous things might take some time before they go away for good. Cyproterone acetate resolves this issue basically immediately, it's a medicine meant to do this. Spiro is meant to do other useful things, slowing T production is only one of it's side effects.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Robyn37 on March 21, 2015, 11:16:06 AM
I have been on a small dose of spiro and estradiol pills for a couple weeks now, and have already noticed a significant decrease in spontaneous erections. My libido was outrageously high prior, so it is easy to notice the difference. I even woke up a couple mornings without an erection, and I cannot remember that being the case in 15 years. Still no problems getting it up when I want to though  ;)
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: chefskenzie on March 21, 2015, 11:18:26 AM
2 weeks max for me.  Each person is different.  Glad you went to a different Dr.  Mine said that putting a MTF on E only without T Blockers is idiotic and does no good as the T overpowers the E.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: kittenpower on March 21, 2015, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: Dana88 on March 21, 2015, 10:20:51 AM
So! As some of you may know, I was on low dose E only HRT for three months. When I had my follow up and my levels hadn't really changed and my Endo said the 'numbers are irrelevant' I made an appt with a different endo. SO I got put on T-Blockers (finally) about a week and a half ago. Now my question is, boy parts downstairs have always been a huge source of dysphoria for me and I can't WAIT to eventually get SRS, but till then, how long on T-Blockers before downstairs stops coming alive unexpectedly?  :angel: Especially in the morning...  :P

It took about a month for spontaneous erections to cease and desist after I started spiro.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Rachel on March 21, 2015, 11:22:47 AM
2 to 3 weeks and spontaneous erections should subside, this is assuming your T drops.

I should add I started with E and spiro at the same time. I had started with finasteride 3 months prior.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Beth Andrea on March 21, 2015, 11:33:13 AM
It's been so long since I had morning wood I can't remember. Seems like it was pretty quickly though, a month or two (if I had to make a guess). It never got "up" otherwise (like when I was driving...damn that was difficult).

It generally works "with encouragement" but not even Viagra helps much.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1186.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz368%2Fhazel_eyes1911%2Fmccoy%2520its%2520dead%2520jim_zpsg0ikertd.jpg&hash=cfe4f06c77bbe5c863d8cc2378e907b54c5e82ba)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvC2TkB-7BU
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: katrinaw on March 21, 2015, 11:40:47 AM
Struggled at 6 months, impossible after 18 mths (yay) almost invisible now  :laugh:

It depends on age, endocrine system.... Etc, etc....

L Katy :-*
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Carrie Liz on March 21, 2015, 11:46:44 AM
It was probably about 1.5 months before my sexual function dropped to the point where my sex-drive was more or less at the level it is now, and spontaneous erections more or less completely stopped.

Since then, it's been dying a slow death. Maintaining any sexual function started becoming difficult around 6 months, and now at 2 years I can't get an erection at all anymore without SEVERE pain. I want that damned thing gone so much... I want to be able to enjoy my intimate life again instead of feeling like I'm being stabbed in the groin every time I'm attracted to something.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: mfox on March 21, 2015, 12:12:19 PM
It was almost immediately for me, within 2 or 3 weeks easily.  My regimen included Spiro, E and Finasteride almost straight away.  I haven't had anything spontaneous since then. :)
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: spooky on March 21, 2015, 12:26:39 PM
It's always the first thing I notice - within days.  I've maintained full functionality long-term but the spontaneous erections stop happening right of the bat.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: trans064134 on March 21, 2015, 05:06:51 PM
If you are talking about pleasure, hell no girl, in fact it gets better(at least for some of us). But maintaining erections can be a challenge, but you dont need them for pleasure, maybe for orgasm but meh..
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Jenna Marie on March 21, 2015, 05:21:33 PM
It was within the first month of HRT for me (super low dose E, no AA). On the other hand, the damned thing worked fine if I was really in the mood right up to the day before GRS - not that I wanted it, at that point!
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: aniiiib on March 21, 2015, 08:18:06 PM
Hi!  I've been on estrogen and T blockers for over 15 months now and I've completely lost all spontaneous erections (morning erections/erections via driving on a bumpy road/stuff like that).  I lost the spontaneous ones after about 4 or 5 months of hrt (after having the typical female hormone levels for roughly 2 months) ^.^ But I still definitely get erections when I am turned on!  And a lot of the time they're strong enough to penetrate.  But the erections are 100x easier to control so they never happen when I don't want them to now (yay never having those awkward standing up moments again :) )  I'm 20 years old if that helps!
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Trini on March 21, 2015, 08:22:09 PM
My sex drive was such a curse and when I started, the drive went kaput after about 3 days!

And it's been that way ever since.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: cindianna_jones on March 21, 2015, 08:30:41 PM
Mine never did. I hate to be gross but the night before my surgery, I gave it one last work out... you know, for old times sake.

;)
Cindi
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Lady Smith on March 21, 2015, 09:55:23 PM
It's almost twenty two years ago now, but at age 38 I was started off on a heavy dose of Premarin and Spiro and I can remember the insantity of having a male sex drive dying away almost immediately.  Erections in all their forms vanished too after a couple of weeks which was such a relief because I'm strongly dysphoric and was sorely tempted to get rid of the thing myself with a little desperate self surgery.
For me at least I can't bear any form of sexual intimacy because it only rubs my nose in the fact that I'm living in the wrong kind of body.  I had an Orchiectomy around fifteen years ago, but I'm still pre-op, and with absolutely zero sex drive I can put up with that as I'm not interested in having an intimate relationship with anybody.  These days I'm still on Spiro, but have changed to Climara patches because my liver started to be upset by oral hormones.  On Climara I'm still dead as a doornail downstairs which suits me just fine and long may it continue.   :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: JLT1 on March 21, 2015, 10:38:33 PM
Hey,

I still get morning wood a couple of times a month.   I'm 3 years at this and eight months post orchi. 

There are no absolute rules..

Jennifer
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Mona on March 23, 2015, 02:00:20 PM
After about a year on low dose estrogen, I have morning erections maybe once a week, but they are not very strong.  I've started blockers for almost a month now and there isn't much going on downstairs anymore.  Yay!
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: awilliams1701 on March 23, 2015, 03:33:40 PM
Mine died after the first week. It still works if I want it too, however lately its been more active than before but no where near as bad as pre-hrt.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Ruth Ruthless on March 23, 2015, 05:18:20 PM
It's kind of weird for me. I've always taken Androcur through my HRT, and when I started it downstairs died very quickly. Like, the very next day  I already felt a big difference, and after two weeks I felt no need to masturbate but also was difficult getting sexually aroused at all. My T levels were consistently below test range.

As we tried to lower the Androcur dosage gradually, the situation stayed the same until I switched from Estrofem to Oestrogel, and then all of a sudden I had male T and E levels and sexually everything was "working" again.

We raised back the Androcur dosage, and it's just about as dead as it was before in the past 3 months and the blood tests confirm my T is back below test range. Yet strangely enough, I had a "wet dream" last night and woke up with morning erection, though I didn't feel actually sexually aroused and didn't want to masturbate so it dwindled pretty quickly. Still, it's kind of strange that it happened at all. My experience on Androcur is that it never happens if the dosage is not super low, like what I had when I switched to Oestrogel.

Androcur is pretty strong. If you're on Spiro I hear it takes longer, but I've only ever been on Androcur so I wouldn't know.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: awilliams1701 on March 24, 2015, 10:52:39 AM
I'm on spiro and it only took a couple of days to eliminate 90% of my insane "hunger". Now my "hunger" is much more reasonable and manageable.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Mariah on March 24, 2015, 11:11:11 AM
It went down to seldom when I was only on the patches but after switching to the injections six weeks in and adding Spiro it died off quickly not that it responded a tone before that point anyway.
Mariah
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Yukihime on March 27, 2015, 10:45:44 PM
My experience is rather funny admittedly. I started with Spiro + Premarin and in no time, spontaneous errections died and morning wood was disrupted. Then soon the morning wood vanished and it was only with inspiration that it acted up. Effectively my drive just plummeted and I was okay with it. Then around month 5 something changed. As I started to experience emotions on a female level, my friend below decided to sync up with my new feelings. Feelings which, pre-hrt I felt were always pure like an innocent maiden. I've switched to CPA + Premarin for now and once my drug plan covers the injections (the pharmacy already has em prepared too, I'm quite excited to be a customer there), I kind of hope it stays that way so that I can feel vibrant after SRS. I believe I even got wider too for a bit, before my size took a hit around the 6-month mark.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: KayXo on March 28, 2015, 02:12:03 PM
With Premarin + CPA, I hope your doctor keeps an eye on prolactin levels. Both drugs tend to increase it significantly and occasionally lead to pituitary problems.
Title: Re: When does... erm... downstairs die?
Post by: Yukihime on March 28, 2015, 03:24:35 PM
Quote from: KayXo on March 28, 2015, 02:12:03 PM
With Premarin + CPA, I hope your doctor keeps an eye on prolactin levels. Both drugs tend to increase it significantly and occasionally lead to pituitary problems.

She is always watching my prolactin levels, she's definitely a pro in that regard. Everything's checked in golden on my last test but I do my part in keeping ontop of things too.