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Title: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on April 08, 2015, 12:28:48 PM
Post by: cindy16 on April 08, 2015, 12:28:48 PM
I had my first laser session for facial hair removal today.
And oh well... I think it is the most painful thing I have ever chosen to do. But now 2-3 hours later, the pain seems bearable, although my face is all red.
So it started with a brief consultation with the dermatologist. It lasted barely 10 minutes, followed by a few more minutes with the 'clinic manager', who started by saying they only do 'beard shaping' and not full removal. When I said that the lady who fixed my appointment as well as the dermatologist had both said full removal can be done, she went out and came back after a few minutes and confirmed it could be done.
I still don't know if that was because they never had a 'male' client before asking for full beard removal or some other reason.
Anyway, on to the session itself, which started with a shave that seemed more painful than my daily ones, and then heaps of xylocaine which I was left with for almost an hour. Thank heavens for that, because I was really numb by then and still the laser was so painful. I can't imagine what it's like without that numbing gel. The lasering itself took about 30-40 minutes I think, and I only stopped it a few times for a few seconds when it got too painful.
The dermatologist came by to see what was going on, and asked me a few times if I was ok. I kept saying yes, even though I was visibly shaking and grimacing at every zap.
Finally it got done and I came back with a face that's red all over. Although it feels smooth, I'm looking forward to 3-4 days from now, when hopefully the hair will fall out and the redness will go away.
And oh well... I think it is the most painful thing I have ever chosen to do. But now 2-3 hours later, the pain seems bearable, although my face is all red.
So it started with a brief consultation with the dermatologist. It lasted barely 10 minutes, followed by a few more minutes with the 'clinic manager', who started by saying they only do 'beard shaping' and not full removal. When I said that the lady who fixed my appointment as well as the dermatologist had both said full removal can be done, she went out and came back after a few minutes and confirmed it could be done.
I still don't know if that was because they never had a 'male' client before asking for full beard removal or some other reason.
Anyway, on to the session itself, which started with a shave that seemed more painful than my daily ones, and then heaps of xylocaine which I was left with for almost an hour. Thank heavens for that, because I was really numb by then and still the laser was so painful. I can't imagine what it's like without that numbing gel. The lasering itself took about 30-40 minutes I think, and I only stopped it a few times for a few seconds when it got too painful.
The dermatologist came by to see what was going on, and asked me a few times if I was ok. I kept saying yes, even though I was visibly shaking and grimacing at every zap.
Finally it got done and I came back with a face that's red all over. Although it feels smooth, I'm looking forward to 3-4 days from now, when hopefully the hair will fall out and the redness will go away.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: awilliams1701 on April 08, 2015, 12:33:30 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on April 08, 2015, 12:33:30 PM
The redness lasts for days? That sucks. Maybe I need to look into starting on a Friday then to minimize the appearance when I go back to work on Monday.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Cat on April 08, 2015, 01:07:43 PM
Post by: Cat on April 08, 2015, 01:07:43 PM
The redness only lasts 2-3 hours for me. If it lasts for days, you should definitely notify your clinician of that (not saying there's a problem necessarily, just that the technicians at my place are always very keen to know exactly how long the redness lasted). The shedding will take 2-3 weeks (for me it peaks between 9-12 days but everyone is different). I tend to get mine done on a Thursday night or Friday so that I can give it a day or two to recover, and then I'm ok to shave and wear makeup in plenty time for the start of the next week.
Laser without the numbing gel... is not very pleasant at all, I can confirm. ;_;
Laser without the numbing gel... is not very pleasant at all, I can confirm. ;_;
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: mmmmm on April 08, 2015, 01:33:39 PM
Post by: mmmmm on April 08, 2015, 01:33:39 PM
Don't panic... the redness usually go away in 6-12 hours at beginning. With higher settings (like 7+ sessions in) there might be some redness and swelling the next day, but it's not really that bad (remember we are all different, it might not be the same for you). The burned hair, which cannot be shaved sufficiently, are a problem, but more for those who are already full-time. Hair will start to fall out at around 2 weeks, you can help this process with twezzers (if you have time), because some hair will get loose 4-5 days after laser, and some a few days later, and you can painlessly pick it out (leave those which are not loose).
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: DrummerGirl on April 08, 2015, 01:47:55 PM
Post by: DrummerGirl on April 08, 2015, 01:47:55 PM
Are you putting an ice pack on your face immediately after treatment? My laser technician asked if I wanted an ice pack after my first treatment, and I stupidly declined. The redness took several days to go away. After that session, I now always get an ice pack and the swelling and redness goes away in hours. As a bonus it helps dull the pain too. If your laser center doesn't have any ice packs, I would suggest bringing one in a cooler so you can apply it on the way home.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: ainsley on April 08, 2015, 01:52:57 PM
Post by: ainsley on April 08, 2015, 01:52:57 PM
Good for you, Cindy!
Yep, the redness goes away faster after each session. I just got my face lased again yesterday. I think it is my 8th or 9th session and it still hurt like a you know what around the mouth. But, the redness and swelling was much better this session. That must mean progress! Mine usually takes about 5 days for all of the killed and burnt black hairs to come out after the session. It is totally worth it, IMHO.
And my Dr. always has me put ice packs on it afterward until the heat is removed. Just FYI.
Yep, the redness goes away faster after each session. I just got my face lased again yesterday. I think it is my 8th or 9th session and it still hurt like a you know what around the mouth. But, the redness and swelling was much better this session. That must mean progress! Mine usually takes about 5 days for all of the killed and burnt black hairs to come out after the session. It is totally worth it, IMHO.
And my Dr. always has me put ice packs on it afterward until the heat is removed. Just FYI.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: carsandsarcasm on April 08, 2015, 06:39:21 PM
Post by: carsandsarcasm on April 08, 2015, 06:39:21 PM
Is that clinic your best option? My sessions take 10 minutes, no numbing cream, I can get through them without flinching, no redness, no swelling, no problems. I don't describe my sessions as painful at all, not pleasant, but very bearable.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on April 08, 2015, 08:10:16 PM
Post by: iKate on April 08, 2015, 08:10:16 PM
Are they using the Nd:YAG? You said you are Indian so I'm assuming not fair (white) skin. That's what they use on me. The redness goes away after a couple of hours but the next day the hairs start to push out and there's a slight sharp sensation like needles when I bristle the hairs. That's good.
I shave the morning of my treatment and I use a strong numbing cream as well as 2 aleve. It hurts during the treatment like someone shooting sand at high velocity at your face. But it's over with in a few minutes unlike electrolysis which is an hour of torture.
I shave the morning of my treatment and I use a strong numbing cream as well as 2 aleve. It hurts during the treatment like someone shooting sand at high velocity at your face. But it's over with in a few minutes unlike electrolysis which is an hour of torture.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on April 08, 2015, 08:11:02 PM
Post by: iKate on April 08, 2015, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: carsandsarcasm on April 08, 2015, 06:39:21 PM
Is that clinic your best option? My sessions take 10 minutes, no numbing cream, I can get through them without flinching, no redness, no swelling, no problems. I don't describe my sessions as painful at all, not pleasant, but very bearable.
What kind of laser?
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on April 08, 2015, 08:32:12 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on April 08, 2015, 08:32:12 PM
First, congrats on starting laser hair removal.
I've had six sessions so far; only the first three left me with a reddish face for a few hours. My last few sessions do leave some redness, but it's less than before. You can cover up the redness with makeup immediately after laser, though, so there's no need to walk around with a burnt-lobster face if you have a medium-to-full-coverage foundation/bb cream you can use.
Every session for me has hurt, but I found that taking a painkiller about an hour before the session helped with the pain. I've usually shaved the afternoon before a session the next morning, rather than the morning of, though I know many laser technicians advise shaving the day of. My laser person advised shaving the day before, and it's not been a problem for me, anyway. She also advised me not to use anything on my face before the laser session--no creams or anything that might inflame the skin more during the session. The first time around, I had used cream before the session on my face, and the laser hurt terribly, but I haven't done so since and the pain is notably less. This is with the YAG laser.
But the pain is still intense even with a painkiller, and so my technician has been giving me a stress ball to hold from the second session onwards. Just having something to grip has helped a little as those beams shoot into my face.
And the hairs may take longer than 3 - 4 days to begin shedding--usually between 5 and 11 days. Don't expect them to all fall out at once, either. They'll keep shedding for a few days.
Good luck with it!
I've had six sessions so far; only the first three left me with a reddish face for a few hours. My last few sessions do leave some redness, but it's less than before. You can cover up the redness with makeup immediately after laser, though, so there's no need to walk around with a burnt-lobster face if you have a medium-to-full-coverage foundation/bb cream you can use.
Every session for me has hurt, but I found that taking a painkiller about an hour before the session helped with the pain. I've usually shaved the afternoon before a session the next morning, rather than the morning of, though I know many laser technicians advise shaving the day of. My laser person advised shaving the day before, and it's not been a problem for me, anyway. She also advised me not to use anything on my face before the laser session--no creams or anything that might inflame the skin more during the session. The first time around, I had used cream before the session on my face, and the laser hurt terribly, but I haven't done so since and the pain is notably less. This is with the YAG laser.
But the pain is still intense even with a painkiller, and so my technician has been giving me a stress ball to hold from the second session onwards. Just having something to grip has helped a little as those beams shoot into my face.
And the hairs may take longer than 3 - 4 days to begin shedding--usually between 5 and 11 days. Don't expect them to all fall out at once, either. They'll keep shedding for a few days.
Good luck with it!
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: monica93304 on April 08, 2015, 10:40:28 PM
Post by: monica93304 on April 08, 2015, 10:40:28 PM
I did 6 sessions over a year ago. It really slowed down the growth rate. I can function as a woman now. My face is smooth. I'm going to do another 6 sessions soon.
In my case, I believe that with my T levels being low, it actually helped. The hair on my body in general is weaker. My facial hair is thinner thankfully.
Totally worth the slight pain.
In my case, I believe that with my T levels being low, it actually helped. The hair on my body in general is weaker. My facial hair is thinner thankfully.
Totally worth the slight pain.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on April 09, 2015, 12:04:43 AM
Post by: cindy16 on April 09, 2015, 12:04:43 AM
Thanks everyone for the replies.
The redness is much lesser now after a full night's sleep, less enough that I can get out and go to work etc. The pain is also much lesser now, and so is this lingering smell of burning hair in my nose and mouth. So Friday evenings for sessions might be a great idea, but any other evening is also OK. I still present male everywhere so I do not have to worry about not being able to shave or hair falling out over many days etc.
They used the Nd:YAG laser. They applied ice packs right after the treatment and gave me some cream which I am supposed to apply twice daily for about 5 days. Regarding shaving before the session, they said they'll do it themselves anyway, so it's best if I don't shave for 2 days before the session.
I think my reaction to the pain was because I anyway have very sensitive skin and a low pain threshold. It might vary for others.
I saw in their brochure that they had a 'pain free laser' option but I don't know what technology they use for that. I might ask them next time about it.
And the place I went to belongs to a well-known chain of clinics here. There are other options but not sure if they would be any better. There are no electrolysis places here that I know of, but hopefully I won't need that.
Btw, is there anyone here who got laser done long before starting HRT? I am still not sure if/when I'll go for HRT, so I don't know if the T levels will bring all the hair back in a few years or so. The dermatologist (whom I didn't tell anything about being trans or HRT etc) did say that maintenance sessions about once or twice a year may be required, so I am just curious how that works.
The redness is much lesser now after a full night's sleep, less enough that I can get out and go to work etc. The pain is also much lesser now, and so is this lingering smell of burning hair in my nose and mouth. So Friday evenings for sessions might be a great idea, but any other evening is also OK. I still present male everywhere so I do not have to worry about not being able to shave or hair falling out over many days etc.
They used the Nd:YAG laser. They applied ice packs right after the treatment and gave me some cream which I am supposed to apply twice daily for about 5 days. Regarding shaving before the session, they said they'll do it themselves anyway, so it's best if I don't shave for 2 days before the session.
I think my reaction to the pain was because I anyway have very sensitive skin and a low pain threshold. It might vary for others.
I saw in their brochure that they had a 'pain free laser' option but I don't know what technology they use for that. I might ask them next time about it.
And the place I went to belongs to a well-known chain of clinics here. There are other options but not sure if they would be any better. There are no electrolysis places here that I know of, but hopefully I won't need that.
Btw, is there anyone here who got laser done long before starting HRT? I am still not sure if/when I'll go for HRT, so I don't know if the T levels will bring all the hair back in a few years or so. The dermatologist (whom I didn't tell anything about being trans or HRT etc) did say that maintenance sessions about once or twice a year may be required, so I am just curious how that works.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on April 09, 2015, 12:17:32 PM
Post by: cindy16 on April 09, 2015, 12:17:32 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on April 08, 2015, 08:32:12 PM
burnt-lobster face
Btw, this is what I am going to use next time onwards to describe my face. :)
Title: First laser session
Post by: iKate on April 09, 2015, 02:52:38 PM
Post by: iKate on April 09, 2015, 02:52:38 PM
I believe the "pain free laser" is the alexandrite which doesn't work on darker skin. I mean they can use it on you but will have to turn it down so low it won't really be effective. The Nd:YAG was designed for darker skin.
I go back next week for treatment #3.
I started out with electrolysis before HRT. Not sure it would have made much of a difference, but E And spiro has thinned out the hair a bit.
I go back next week for treatment #3.
I started out with electrolysis before HRT. Not sure it would have made much of a difference, but E And spiro has thinned out the hair a bit.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Jessika on April 09, 2015, 04:42:06 PM
Post by: Jessika on April 09, 2015, 04:42:06 PM
I just got session #4 done a couple of days ago and it was painful as always lol. It seems like the hair does grow back a lot slower but all the dark hairs seem to still be there. Am I wrong or seeing things? Or just different follicles sprouting? ;)
The power get's turned up each session also.
I go in for my first HRT visit next month. Maybe starting on Hormones will help a little, I am not sure.
The power get's turned up each session also.
I go in for my first HRT visit next month. Maybe starting on Hormones will help a little, I am not sure.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: mmmmm on April 09, 2015, 04:55:15 PM
Post by: mmmmm on April 09, 2015, 04:55:15 PM
probably not.. Its best to do as much laser sessions before HRT as possible, as HRT will make some hair thinner, and some possibly lighter in color.
Patience! usually the first real difference can be seen after 5-6 sessions... most what was affected after first sessions will grow back in next few months, but again, enough will be destroyed for good, and there will be an obvious difference by then.
iKate... I wouldn't describe alexandrite laser as a pain free laser.. I had my face cleared with it in the past year and half, and even though I never needed painkillers, or numbing cream it was faaaar from painfree
Patience! usually the first real difference can be seen after 5-6 sessions... most what was affected after first sessions will grow back in next few months, but again, enough will be destroyed for good, and there will be an obvious difference by then.
iKate... I wouldn't describe alexandrite laser as a pain free laser.. I had my face cleared with it in the past year and half, and even though I never needed painkillers, or numbing cream it was faaaar from painfree
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: katrinaw on April 09, 2015, 05:32:59 PM
Post by: katrinaw on April 09, 2015, 05:32:59 PM
Thanks girls, all good stuff, not sure about the Lobster look and pain tho????
I will be starting Laser/Electro soon, Laser first to see how it goes and Electro if necessary. Benny on HRT forever and facial hair is lighter, still some dark, and fair skin...
So think I am getting nervous :-\
Actually was already aware of some of what's been discussed, I will be looking for Alexandrite... Got that far...
L Katy :-*
I will be starting Laser/Electro soon, Laser first to see how it goes and Electro if necessary. Benny on HRT forever and facial hair is lighter, still some dark, and fair skin...
So think I am getting nervous :-\
Actually was already aware of some of what's been discussed, I will be looking for Alexandrite... Got that far...
L Katy :-*
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: mmmmm on April 09, 2015, 06:12:46 PM
Post by: mmmmm on April 09, 2015, 06:12:46 PM
Generally all pro lasers work about the same on people with light skin tone. It's hard to compare for exact comparison to be made, but people who have the right combination of skin-hair color usually have good results regardless of exact type of machine. If it may take 2 sessions more with one, or two sessions less with other, that shouldn't really matter that much in the end. Someday not having to shave ever again is all that really matters.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Kova V on April 09, 2015, 07:20:58 PM
Post by: Kova V on April 09, 2015, 07:20:58 PM
Congrats! Yay for blasting our faces with high power lasers! Now if only we'd get super powers...
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Jen72 on April 09, 2015, 07:41:06 PM
Post by: Jen72 on April 09, 2015, 07:41:06 PM
Congratulations on the start it will nice to have much smoother skin:)
Just happen to do 4th session the other day which I did swell but much better then previous experience. My first two were pretty smooth sailing but the third I had broke out with acne under some of the hairs or maybe body trying to expel the hairs. I have to mention after like the next day exfoliate your skin it will help a lot not sure on same day either but at least next day will help the hairs come out and keep pores open to ok sounds gross but bleed out some excess liquid from zapping your follicle and fat under the skin. I am fortunate with fair skin but the oily part not so much just saying if you break out clean your skin and or exfoliate it will be much better and less pain after. Heard of some using witchhazxel too.
Just happen to do 4th session the other day which I did swell but much better then previous experience. My first two were pretty smooth sailing but the third I had broke out with acne under some of the hairs or maybe body trying to expel the hairs. I have to mention after like the next day exfoliate your skin it will help a lot not sure on same day either but at least next day will help the hairs come out and keep pores open to ok sounds gross but bleed out some excess liquid from zapping your follicle and fat under the skin. I am fortunate with fair skin but the oily part not so much just saying if you break out clean your skin and or exfoliate it will be much better and less pain after. Heard of some using witchhazxel too.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on April 09, 2015, 08:50:36 PM
Post by: iKate on April 09, 2015, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: mmmmm on April 09, 2015, 04:55:15 PM
iKate... I wouldn't describe alexandrite laser as a pain free laser.. I had my face cleared with it in the past year and half, and even though I never needed painkillers, or numbing cream it was faaaar from painfree
I'm not really sure. Must have been another type then.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Sophie Lou on April 10, 2015, 12:18:19 AM
Post by: Sophie Lou on April 10, 2015, 12:18:19 AM
One of the variables for the pain threshold is that some places are not doing a good job in getting the hair out.
My laser lady was recommended by a transgirl who said that she had tried 4 sessions at 1 place and it didn't hurt too badly, but then switched to a different laser tech and more hair came out than in the 4 last sessions combined.
It also was more painful.
Some places string along their clients for more sessions to make money.
My first session hurt like bloody hell. It was very intense! But SO much hair came out it was astonishing. I am lucky to have an honest laser tech.
My laser lady was recommended by a transgirl who said that she had tried 4 sessions at 1 place and it didn't hurt too badly, but then switched to a different laser tech and more hair came out than in the 4 last sessions combined.
It also was more painful.
Some places string along their clients for more sessions to make money.
My first session hurt like bloody hell. It was very intense! But SO much hair came out it was astonishing. I am lucky to have an honest laser tech.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on April 10, 2015, 04:04:51 AM
Post by: cindy16 on April 10, 2015, 04:04:51 AM
Thanks everyone.
Rhea, that pain free laser (alexandrite or whatever it is) was given as an option in their brochure. I am light skinned by local standards, but the dermatologist didn't give any options and straightaway recommended the Nd:YAG, and I didn't bother asking about the pain free one.
Jessika, that sounds scary. The dermatologist did say that future sessions will be less painful because there will be less hair to zap, but if they turn up the power, I guess it will even out. :-\
Sophie, they've already charged for 6 sessions in advance, and that's a usual practice there I guess. The session did hurt a lot and I can see a lot of hair sticking out of my skin, but I am not sure if this is regular stubble or the burnt ones. Haven't shaved in the last 2 days either. Let's see.
Jen72, after the session, I do have a bit of what seems like acne but it's not swollen at all, and I don't have oily skin. Also, most of the redness reduced within about 12 hours, so I haven't applied anything except a skin protection cream and sunscreen.
Rhea, that pain free laser (alexandrite or whatever it is) was given as an option in their brochure. I am light skinned by local standards, but the dermatologist didn't give any options and straightaway recommended the Nd:YAG, and I didn't bother asking about the pain free one.
Quote from: Jessika on April 09, 2015, 04:42:06 PM
The power get's turned up each session also.
Jessika, that sounds scary. The dermatologist did say that future sessions will be less painful because there will be less hair to zap, but if they turn up the power, I guess it will even out. :-\
Quote from: stellarj1 on April 10, 2015, 12:18:19 AM
Some places string along their clients for more sessions to make money.
My first session hurt like bloody hell. It was very intense! But SO much hair came out it was astonishing. I am lucky to have an honest laser tech.
Sophie, they've already charged for 6 sessions in advance, and that's a usual practice there I guess. The session did hurt a lot and I can see a lot of hair sticking out of my skin, but I am not sure if this is regular stubble or the burnt ones. Haven't shaved in the last 2 days either. Let's see.
Quote from: Jen72 on April 09, 2015, 07:41:06 PM
Congratulations on the start it will nice to have much smoother skin:)
Just happen to do 4th session the other day which I did swell but much better then previous experience. My first two were pretty smooth sailing but the third I had broke out with acne under some of the hairs or maybe body trying to expel the hairs. I have to mention after like the next day exfoliate your skin it will help a lot not sure on same day either but at least next day will help the hairs come out and keep pores open to ok sounds gross but bleed out some excess liquid from zapping your follicle and fat under the skin. I am fortunate with fair skin but the oily part not so much just saying if you break out clean your skin and or exfoliate it will be much better and less pain after. Heard of some using witchhazxel too.
Jen72, after the session, I do have a bit of what seems like acne but it's not swollen at all, and I don't have oily skin. Also, most of the redness reduced within about 12 hours, so I haven't applied anything except a skin protection cream and sunscreen.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: akegia on April 10, 2015, 04:32:00 AM
Post by: akegia on April 10, 2015, 04:32:00 AM
Quote from: mmmmm on April 09, 2015, 04:55:15 PM
iKate... I wouldn't describe alexandrite laser as a pain free laser.. I had my face cleared with it in the past year and half, and even though I never needed painkillers, or numbing cream it was faaaar from painfree
Yeah I have gone through 5 treatments with an Alexandrite Laser System and its not painless, just not very painful and never left any redness or swelling on me.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: mmmmm on April 10, 2015, 05:26:10 AM
Post by: mmmmm on April 10, 2015, 05:26:10 AM
The only rule is : if it doesn't hurt, it's not working (as it should). It's either because of wrong settings, or your hair type (it doesn't work on light, red, bronze hair) ... And this is regardless of what type of laser is used. If you don't feel excruciating pain on your upper lip, or just below the lower lip, something is not right. It should hurt like F****** hell ...
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: akegia on April 10, 2015, 05:30:28 AM
Post by: akegia on April 10, 2015, 05:30:28 AM
Quote from: mmmmm on April 10, 2015, 05:26:10 AM
The only rule is : if it doesn't hurt, it's not working (as it should). It's either because of wrong settings, or your hair type (it doesn't work on light, red, bronze hair) ... And this is regardless of what type of laser is used. If you don't feel excruciating pain on your upper lip, or just below the lower lip, something is not right. It should hurt like F****** hell ...
So true, I dread the part where they start zapping the upper lip.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on April 10, 2015, 05:55:37 AM
Post by: iKate on April 10, 2015, 05:55:37 AM
The tech who does mine pauses for a few seconds between each pulse on the upper lip
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: akegia on April 10, 2015, 06:00:19 AM
Post by: akegia on April 10, 2015, 06:00:19 AM
Quote from: iKate on April 10, 2015, 05:55:37 AM
The tech who does mine pauses for a few seconds between each pulse on the upper lip
I tell to just get it over with, so they go over pretty fast.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: ChiGirl on April 10, 2015, 09:01:41 AM
Post by: ChiGirl on April 10, 2015, 09:01:41 AM
Shedding question: does the shedding happen totally on its own, or do you need to pluck? I don't start full treatment for 2 weeks, but I had a sample area done and I've found I've had to pluck all the hairs. None of them seemed to come out on their own.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on April 10, 2015, 09:24:53 AM
Post by: iKate on April 10, 2015, 09:24:53 AM
Quote from: cindy16 on April 10, 2015, 04:04:51 AM
Thanks everyone.
Rhea, that pain free laser (alexandrite or whatever it is) was given as an option in their brochure. I am light skinned by local standards, but the dermatologist didn't give any options and straightaway recommended the Nd:YAG, and I didn't bother asking about the pain free one.
I think the pain free one is a diode laser and they do fast pulses that don't apply heat all at once. It may work on you if you are fair skinned but I think anything type IV and darker on the fitzpatrick scale works best with the Nd:YAG. In my case I am type IV bordering on V so they just went with the Nd:YAG straight away.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on April 10, 2015, 09:27:01 AM
Post by: iKate on April 10, 2015, 09:27:01 AM
Quote from: ChiGirl on April 10, 2015, 09:01:41 AM
Shedding question: does the shedding happen totally on its own, or do you need to pluck? I don't start full treatment for 2 weeks, but I had a sample area done and I've found I've had to pluck all the hairs. None of them seemed to come out on their own.
It sheds on its own. You may notice it starting to just fall out but at first it seems to be "growing" but in reality it is just pushing out. You can pluck on your own but if they give resistance just leave them alone. It may take 7-14 days to start shedding. Basically the laser will disable the follicle and it will eventually let go of the hair.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on April 10, 2015, 09:30:55 AM
Post by: iKate on April 10, 2015, 09:30:55 AM
Quote from: akegia on April 10, 2015, 06:00:19 AMShe says she pauses because that area is more delicate and she wants to give it a couple seconds to cool down.
I tell to just get it over with, so they go over pretty fast.
So it's like this:
zap, move, zap (wait 2 sec), move, zap, move, zap (wait 2 sec) etc.
The rest of the face she just zaps and moves and it's over within a few minutes.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Cat on April 10, 2015, 09:33:49 AM
Post by: Cat on April 10, 2015, 09:33:49 AM
It sheds anyway, it just takes a while to work its way out. I don't pluck, but in the second week after laser I do exfoliate more often than I would normally, because that seems to help. Gently towel-drying my face after I wash helps also. When I had my sample area done, I didn't notice much hair loss either, but the full face results were much clearer.
I noticed a significant difference after every treatment but I would echo what others here have said -- it took a good 6 sessions before I really started to see major patches where no hair at all was going back. Over the first 4-6 sessions, in spite of how much clearance is occurring, there will be lots of dormant hairs entering their active growth phases that also need to be taken care of. By my last session, which was my ninth, there were whole areas of my face that didn't even turn red at all, which I guess means there are no dark, coarse hairs left there at all to absorb the laser. Superficially my face looks clear now but I will keep going back until I'm absolutely sure the laser can't do any more.
I think it was slightly less painful last time, too, but the time before that I really struggled with the pain, which I think was a combination of my forgetting to take painkillers, the technician not using ice at all, and my skin being more sensitive now. I dread having the top lip done every time, but hopefully it won't be quite as bad from now on.
I noticed a significant difference after every treatment but I would echo what others here have said -- it took a good 6 sessions before I really started to see major patches where no hair at all was going back. Over the first 4-6 sessions, in spite of how much clearance is occurring, there will be lots of dormant hairs entering their active growth phases that also need to be taken care of. By my last session, which was my ninth, there were whole areas of my face that didn't even turn red at all, which I guess means there are no dark, coarse hairs left there at all to absorb the laser. Superficially my face looks clear now but I will keep going back until I'm absolutely sure the laser can't do any more.
I think it was slightly less painful last time, too, but the time before that I really struggled with the pain, which I think was a combination of my forgetting to take painkillers, the technician not using ice at all, and my skin being more sensitive now. I dread having the top lip done every time, but hopefully it won't be quite as bad from now on.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on April 10, 2015, 12:37:22 PM
Post by: cindy16 on April 10, 2015, 12:37:22 PM
Quote from: iKate on April 10, 2015, 09:24:53 AM
I think the pain free one is a diode laser and they do fast pulses that don't apply heat all at once. It may work on you if you are fair skinned but I think anything type IV and darker on the fitzpatrick scale works best with the Nd:YAG. In my case I am type IV bordering on V so they just went with the Nd:YAG straight away.
Thanks. The dermatologist didn't mention anything about my skin type but I googled right now and I think I would be a type III.
I guess I'll ask them next time but if it is not going to do the job as well, then I would rather go through the pain and have a clearer face.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: ainsley on April 10, 2015, 01:08:03 PM
Post by: ainsley on April 10, 2015, 01:08:03 PM
Quote from: Jen72 on April 09, 2015, 07:41:06 PM
Heard of some using witchhazxel too.
My electrologist uses witch hazel and I got some for home after zapping sessions. Never tried it after lasing (duh!). ;)
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Jessika on April 10, 2015, 03:22:21 PM
Post by: Jessika on April 10, 2015, 03:22:21 PM
4 sessions in, they hurt like hell but still have yet to see any mentioned "shedding". I never see loose or hair falling out. Does shaving mask the shedding?
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on April 10, 2015, 04:53:17 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on April 10, 2015, 04:53:17 PM
I've never really noticed hairs just falling out during the shedding phase. The affected hair will become looser, and touching them in some way will dislodge/remove said hairs. Some individual follicles will seem like they're still firmly in there if you try plucking, but will fall out a few days later. By 'fall out,' at least for me, I mean with the help of me exfoliating my face. I use a scrub or exfoliating product each day during the shedding phase, and hairs will be on my hands and face as I rub. These are the shedded hairs. The first few times, I was surprised by the sheer number of individual hairs that came out. After about 11 days post-laser, you will likely stop noticing this occurring.
It shouldn't completely mask shedding. But when I shave during a shedding phase, I see hairs falling out as when I exfoliate--and you see the hairs actually fallen out, rather than what I normally notice when I shave outside of a shedding phase. So that might be the reason. Or your laser might not be working. Do you notice any reduction of hair at all?
Quote from: Jessika on April 10, 2015, 03:22:21 PM
4 sessions in, they hurt like hell but still have yet to see any mentioned "shedding". I never see loose or hair falling out. Does shaving mask the shedding?
It shouldn't completely mask shedding. But when I shave during a shedding phase, I see hairs falling out as when I exfoliate--and you see the hairs actually fallen out, rather than what I normally notice when I shave outside of a shedding phase. So that might be the reason. Or your laser might not be working. Do you notice any reduction of hair at all?
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Jessika on April 10, 2015, 06:26:49 PM
Post by: Jessika on April 10, 2015, 06:26:49 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on April 10, 2015, 04:53:17 PMHere is a pic of me. I had Laser #4 two days ago and have not shaved yet. It seems a lot less than I would normally have if I had no laser at all. lol I have white hair there too. ;D
I've never really noticed hairs just falling out during the shedding phase. The affected hair will become looser, and touching them in some way will dislodge/remove said hairs. Some individual follicles will seem like they're still firmly in there if you try plucking, but will fall out a few days later. By 'fall out,' at least for me, I mean with the help of me exfoliating my face. I use a scrub or exfoliating product each day during the shedding phase, and hairs will be on my hands and face as I rub. These are the shedded hairs. The first few times, I was surprised by the sheer number of individual hairs that came out. After about 11 days post-laser, you will likely stop noticing this occurring.
It shouldn't completely mask shedding. But when I shave during a shedding phase, I see hairs falling out as when I exfoliate--and you see the hairs actually fallen out, rather than what I normally notice when I shave outside of a shedding phase. So that might be the reason. Or your laser might not be working. Do you notice any reduction of hair at all?
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Is it normal to still show up like that? At 48, I have coarse hair. uuugh :o
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Mariah on April 10, 2015, 06:37:58 PM
Post by: Mariah on April 10, 2015, 06:37:58 PM
Yes it's normal even at younger ages for it to show up like that.
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Quote from: Jessika on April 10, 2015, 06:26:49 PM
Here is a pic of me. I had Laser #4 two days ago and have not shaved yet. It seems a lot less than I would normally have if I had no laser at all. lol I have white hair there too. ;D
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Is it normal to still show up like that? At 48, I have coarse hair. uuugh :o
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on April 11, 2015, 09:42:02 AM
Post by: cindy16 on April 11, 2015, 09:42:02 AM
I shaved for the first time today since the laser session 3 days ago.
It hurt a bit, and I could still see and feel enough stubble which could not be shaved. I guess that's because it's now loose and should hopefully shed itself in a few days.
It hurt a bit, and I could still see and feel enough stubble which could not be shaved. I guess that's because it's now loose and should hopefully shed itself in a few days.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Cat on April 11, 2015, 09:53:56 AM
Post by: Cat on April 11, 2015, 09:53:56 AM
Yeah, the unshaveable stubble is the stuff that's going to fall out very soon. It's really annoying for a week or so, but then it's gone for good!
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on April 19, 2015, 03:04:24 PM
Post by: cindy16 on April 19, 2015, 03:04:24 PM
Most of that unshaveable stubble seems to be gone now, and my face already feels very smooth. The last time it felt like this was probably when I was a teenager.
There is still some stubble and a shadow as well, but hopefully the next 5 sessions will get rid of it for good. :)
There is still some stubble and a shadow as well, but hopefully the next 5 sessions will get rid of it for good. :)
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: ainsley on April 20, 2015, 11:08:42 AM
Post by: ainsley on April 20, 2015, 11:08:42 AM
Quote from: cindy16 on April 19, 2015, 03:04:24 PM
Most of that unshaveable stubble seems to be gone now, and my face already feels very smooth. The last time it felt like this was probably when I was a teenager.
There is still some stubble and a shadow as well, but hopefully the next 5 sessions will get rid of it for good. :)
Isn't it great?!
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on April 20, 2015, 03:24:46 PM
Post by: cindy16 on April 20, 2015, 03:24:46 PM
Quote from: ainsley on April 20, 2015, 11:08:42 AM
Isn't it great?!
Ya, it feels really nice. Also, my wife and I took some pics together yesterday and I liked my somewhat feminine looks in them. :)
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on April 20, 2015, 03:47:31 PM
Post by: iKate on April 20, 2015, 03:47:31 PM
I'm going back this week, likely Thursday for session #3. I have moderate re growth but it is thinner. Upper lip is stubborn though.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: DrummerGirl on April 20, 2015, 05:53:23 PM
Post by: DrummerGirl on April 20, 2015, 05:53:23 PM
Quote from: iKate on April 20, 2015, 03:47:31 PM
I'm going back this week, likely Thursday for session #3. I have moderate re growth but it is thinner. Upper lip is stubborn though.
Like you, my upper lip is my most stubborn area. The rest of my face was clear after 3 sessions, but I had to have two more done on my upper lip. This last one only had a handful of hairs visible, so hopefully, I'm done with laser. I haven't had to shave in a couple of months; I think it's time to toss the men's razor. Yay!
As for what remains after a session, what I do is let the hair break the surface of the skin, then just rub it a little with my finger. In most cases, the hair will come out, but if it doesn't, I just try again the next day. That's worked really well for me; Much better than when I used to shave after a session or when I would use regular exfoliation.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on April 20, 2015, 06:06:35 PM
Post by: iKate on April 20, 2015, 06:06:35 PM
Quote from: DrummerGirl on April 20, 2015, 05:53:23 PM
Like you, my upper lip is my most stubborn area. The rest of my face was clear after 3 sessions, but I had to have two more done on my upper lip. This last one only had a handful of hairs visible, so hopefully, I'm done with laser. I haven't had to shave in a couple of months; I think it's time to toss the men's razor. Yay!
As for what remains after a session, what I do is let the hair break the surface of the skin, then just rub it a little with my finger. In most cases, the hair will come out, but if it doesn't, I just try again the next day. That's worked really well for me; Much better than when I used to shave after a session or when I would use regular exfoliation.
I gotta try that. I used to spend late nights pulling them. They would slide out easy but it got tired fast.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on April 21, 2015, 01:02:49 PM
Post by: cindy16 on April 21, 2015, 01:02:49 PM
I was told by the technician that upper lip would hurt the most, but it didn't hurt any more than my jawline and lower neck. Which was still pretty bad, though. The hair growth in each of these parts is more or less similar, too.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Paige0000 on April 21, 2015, 05:41:17 PM
Post by: Paige0000 on April 21, 2015, 05:41:17 PM
Well I'll give you my two cents.
I personally am not a fan of laser since for me after 11 treatments all the hair grew back (Though maybe I was just unlucky?) and overall felt like I had just wasted my time and money.
In my opinion Electrolysis is the best option (With a skilled practitioner (very important)) and I would recommend it if you have one available to you nearby.
Down side is it is more time consuming, expensive (debatable) and if you think laser is bad pain wise this will likely be worse. However the benefit of complete removal was just too good for me personally. 1 year and 60 electrolysis hrs later and I'm pretty much hair free (Vellus hair aside).
Just do what ever works best for you girl :).
I personally am not a fan of laser since for me after 11 treatments all the hair grew back (Though maybe I was just unlucky?) and overall felt like I had just wasted my time and money.
In my opinion Electrolysis is the best option (With a skilled practitioner (very important)) and I would recommend it if you have one available to you nearby.
Down side is it is more time consuming, expensive (debatable) and if you think laser is bad pain wise this will likely be worse. However the benefit of complete removal was just too good for me personally. 1 year and 60 electrolysis hrs later and I'm pretty much hair free (Vellus hair aside).
Just do what ever works best for you girl :).
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on April 22, 2015, 03:40:57 AM
Post by: cindy16 on April 22, 2015, 03:40:57 AM
Thanks Paige.
I couldn't find any electrolysis places nearby, so I thought I'll start with laser and see how it goes. 2 weeks after my first session and the hair growth seems to be lower than before.
I'll see how it is over the next 6 months, and then decide if I need to do something more.
I couldn't find any electrolysis places nearby, so I thought I'll start with laser and see how it goes. 2 weeks after my first session and the hair growth seems to be lower than before.
I'll see how it is over the next 6 months, and then decide if I need to do something more.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: awilliams1701 on April 22, 2015, 10:22:43 AM
Post by: awilliams1701 on April 22, 2015, 10:22:43 AM
My laser consultation is Friday. I'm hoping I'll be able to start treatments very soon.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Gretchen0b on April 22, 2015, 11:11:51 AM
Post by: Gretchen0b on April 22, 2015, 11:11:51 AM
I wasn't going to say anything on this post because I have a slight bias but when I saw Paige's post I thought I might chime in. Laser is a great option if you are a good candidate, meaning you have dark hair and light colored skin. Typically after 10 sessions of laser you will have gone as far as you can with laser. After 10 sessions you could be wasting your money and your only solution will be electrolysis. Which is the only method that is approved by the FDA as 100% permanent hair removal. A very small percentage of laser clients will get what we call in the business as laser rebound. Laser rebound is a stimulation of the follicles which can induce dormant follicles to grow hair, giving you more hair than what you started with. No one really knows why this happens but when it does it can be catastrophic. Like I said earlier it is a very small percentage of people that this will happen to, less than 1%. Once you have finished with your laser treatments many will need to finish with electrolysis. Not all electrologist are created equal. Electrologist's who are using the modality of thermolysis (HF/RF) a good insulated probe (needle) and a modern machine will give you the joy of being hair free. Most full beards that have not been treated with laser can be permanently removed within 150-300 hrs. Always do your research.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on April 23, 2015, 03:59:31 PM
Post by: cindy16 on April 23, 2015, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: awilliams1701 on April 22, 2015, 10:22:43 AM
My laser consultation is Friday. I'm hoping I'll be able to start treatments very soon.
All the best Ashley. I had gone in thinking it would just be a consultation but they had a slot for treatment available immediately so I got it done right there. :)
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: awilliams1701 on April 23, 2015, 04:37:11 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on April 23, 2015, 04:37:11 PM
I'm actually hoping they have one later in the day. Its at 11:30 and being on a Friday that means I'm going to want straight over to Chipotle. I've made Chipotle Fridays a thing.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Mermaid on April 23, 2015, 09:58:30 PM
Post by: Mermaid on April 23, 2015, 09:58:30 PM
I've had 4 sessions on my entire face and another 4 on just the chin and upper lip. Had my last session on my upper lip 14 days ago... I had like 12 random hairs left? Mostly at the corners of my upper lip... They fell off now but I have like 4 little dots from hair trapped in the skin -.- its really annoying, too short to pluck them out and they're not growing... Just kinda there...
I've noticed a significant difference from before and after laser, but I was an ideal candidate (fair skin, dark hair). My main problem is that despite having no hairs growing, there's still a blue/green tint under some lights... Ironically, under weak lighting. In bright areas and under natural light, there's no hint of anything remotely resembling a shadow... I wonder what it is... It could be dormant follicles but I'm not sure that's it, perhaps it's skin pigmentation from laser? It does seem to get better the more time passes after an appointment..
Ironic how it looks worse after a session rather than before... It could also just be shadow from muscle on the upper lip? Not sure... People say I have no shadow at all, but I kinda see that tint in my bathroom... Then again. The corners of my mouth seem to have that too and I never had any hair growing there lol
I've noticed a significant difference from before and after laser, but I was an ideal candidate (fair skin, dark hair). My main problem is that despite having no hairs growing, there's still a blue/green tint under some lights... Ironically, under weak lighting. In bright areas and under natural light, there's no hint of anything remotely resembling a shadow... I wonder what it is... It could be dormant follicles but I'm not sure that's it, perhaps it's skin pigmentation from laser? It does seem to get better the more time passes after an appointment..
Ironic how it looks worse after a session rather than before... It could also just be shadow from muscle on the upper lip? Not sure... People say I have no shadow at all, but I kinda see that tint in my bathroom... Then again. The corners of my mouth seem to have that too and I never had any hair growing there lol
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: ChiGirl on April 23, 2015, 10:08:12 PM
Post by: ChiGirl on April 23, 2015, 10:08:12 PM
I have my first laser session tomorrow! Yeah! [emoji3] [emoji3] [emoji3]
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: rachel89 on April 23, 2015, 10:21:26 PM
Post by: rachel89 on April 23, 2015, 10:21:26 PM
mazal tov! The first Hair removal session feels very liberating although painful. i am actually considering laser after I get another job. My stylist said she had an olive-skinned client who was able to do laser without problems with burning the skin. I still have worries about permanency though and I'm used to electro and going thrugh the most painful part right now.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: awilliams1701 on April 24, 2015, 01:15:34 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on April 24, 2015, 01:15:34 PM
First session is going to be Wednesday!
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on April 24, 2015, 01:24:58 PM
Post by: cindy16 on April 24, 2015, 01:24:58 PM
Quote from: DrummerGirl on April 20, 2015, 05:53:23 PM
As for what remains after a session, what I do is let the hair break the surface of the skin, then just rub it a little with my finger. In most cases, the hair will come out, but if it doesn't, I just try again the next day. That's worked really well for me; Much better than when I used to shave after a session or when I would use regular exfoliation.
This is working for me now, more than 2 weeks later. I must have shed a lot of the dead hair earlier as well but today many more seem to be coming off as I rub them.
Quote from: Mermaid on April 23, 2015, 09:58:30 PM
People say I have no shadow at all, but I kinda see that tint in my bathroom...
Maybe you're just being too hard on yourself. I think others hardly notice these things as much.
Quote from: ChiGirl on April 23, 2015, 10:08:12 PM
I have my first laser session tomorrow! Yeah! [emoji3] [emoji3] [emoji3]
Quote from: awilliams1701 on April 24, 2015, 01:15:34 PM
First session is going to be Wednesday!
Quote from: rachel89 on April 23, 2015, 10:21:26 PM
i am actually considering laser after I get another job.
I wish all of you all the best. It's going to hurt like hell but it will be worth it. :)
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: ChiGirl on April 25, 2015, 03:12:51 AM
Post by: ChiGirl on April 25, 2015, 03:12:51 AM
Quote from: cindy16 on April 24, 2015, 01:24:58 PM
I wish all of you all the best. It's going to hurt like hell but it will be worth it. :)
It did hurt like he'll, but I just kept reminding myself what was on the other side of that pain. I feel so smooth now!
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Dee Marshall on April 25, 2015, 10:39:14 AM
Post by: Dee Marshall on April 25, 2015, 10:39:14 AM
Quote from: DrummerGirl on April 20, 2015, 05:53:23 PMGreat tip! I have to try that... when I actually get to start laser.
As for what remains after a session, what I do is let the hair break the surface of the skin, then just rub it a little with my finger. In most cases, the hair will come out, but if it doesn't, I just try again the next day. That's worked really well for me; Much better than when I used to shave after a session or when I would use regular exfoliation.
Title: First laser session
Post by: Sophie Lou on May 01, 2015, 12:02:52 PM
Post by: Sophie Lou on May 01, 2015, 12:02:52 PM
Ok, a few thoughts after my 3rd session yesterday.
1)the 5% lidocaine is much more effective using Saran Wrap over my beard area so that it doesn't dry up immediately.
2)for those with high anxiety and worry(I know none of you TransWomen have anxiety [emoji6]), a great trick to distract your mind is to dig your nail a little into you arm, hand, or fingers between each shot. Dig into a different area after each zap. It takes your brain's attention away from the fear about the anticipated zap and brings your consciousness to the area where you are pushing into. It's the same idea as biting your lip if you get a foot cramp when you are swimming in deep waters etc. it really helped me stopped worrying and go into a zone.
3) if it still hurts like hell, why are we not getting a prescription for stronger lidocaine from our doctors?! Seriously. I'm seeing my doc on Monday and I'm getting stronger stuff. I'm done suffering. There is no reason not to.
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1)the 5% lidocaine is much more effective using Saran Wrap over my beard area so that it doesn't dry up immediately.
2)for those with high anxiety and worry(I know none of you TransWomen have anxiety [emoji6]), a great trick to distract your mind is to dig your nail a little into you arm, hand, or fingers between each shot. Dig into a different area after each zap. It takes your brain's attention away from the fear about the anticipated zap and brings your consciousness to the area where you are pushing into. It's the same idea as biting your lip if you get a foot cramp when you are swimming in deep waters etc. it really helped me stopped worrying and go into a zone.
3) if it still hurts like hell, why are we not getting a prescription for stronger lidocaine from our doctors?! Seriously. I'm seeing my doc on Monday and I'm getting stronger stuff. I'm done suffering. There is no reason not to.
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Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: awilliams1701 on May 01, 2015, 12:11:59 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on May 01, 2015, 12:11:59 PM
I'm not sure what's worse. The brief pain or the long lasting smell of burning hair and flesh. I'm just glad I didn't go the tria route. I've heard it hurts less, but takes long and needs to be exposed longer. I had trouble with the epilator the first few times. I can't imagine lasering my own face.
So far my hair hasn't fallen out yet. I'm looking forward to when it does. Oh and the worst thing was between the eyebrows. That hurt the worst by far. The area just under the nose was a close second.
So far my hair hasn't fallen out yet. I'm looking forward to when it does. Oh and the worst thing was between the eyebrows. That hurt the worst by far. The area just under the nose was a close second.
Title: First laser session
Post by: iKate on May 01, 2015, 12:22:27 PM
Post by: iKate on May 01, 2015, 12:22:27 PM
I am 3 sessions in and it hurts less, maybe because I have less hair to deal with or maybe because I got used to it.
6-7 days before I could pull hairs out and 14 days for most to shed seems to be what has been happening.
6-7 days before I could pull hairs out and 14 days for most to shed seems to be what has been happening.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: awilliams1701 on May 01, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on May 01, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
I think its a little of both actually. There is going to be a lot less hair each time. Also if you receive pain in the same area over and over again, it becomes de-sensatised.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Urban Christina on May 03, 2015, 04:32:09 PM
Post by: Urban Christina on May 03, 2015, 04:32:09 PM
I don't use any numbing cream or anything prior to my sessions. I just want to ensure that nothing will affect the effectiveness of laser. It's most the painful thing I've ever did to myself so far but so worth it! Just keep mental images of celebrites you wanna look like, it works for me. Haha!
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: amber roskamp on May 03, 2015, 05:01:39 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on May 03, 2015, 05:01:39 PM
Quote from: cindy16 on April 08, 2015, 12:28:48 PM
I had my first laser session for facial hair removal today.
And oh well... I think it is the most painful thing I have ever chosen to do. But now 2-3 hours later, the pain seems bearable, although my face is all red.
So it started with a brief consultation with the dermatologist. It lasted barely 10 minutes, followed by a few more minutes with the 'clinic manager', who started by saying they only do 'beard shaping' and not full removal. When I said that the lady who fixed my appointment as well as the dermatologist had both said full removal can be done, she went out and came back after a few minutes and confirmed it could be done.
I still don't know if that was because they never had a 'male' client before asking for full beard removal or some other reason.
Anyway, on to the session itself, which started with a shave that seemed more painful than my daily ones, and then heaps of xylocaine which I was left with for almost an hour. Thank heavens for that, because I was really numb by then and still the laser was so painful. I can't imagine what it's like without that numbing gel. The lasering itself took about 30-40 minutes I think, and I only stopped it a few times for a few seconds when it got too painful.
The dermatologist came by to see what was going on, and asked me a few times if I was ok. I kept saying yes, even though I was visibly shaking and grimacing at every zap.
Finally it got done and I came back with a face that's red all over. Although it feels smooth, I'm looking forward to 3-4 days from now, when hopefully the hair will fall out and the redness will go away.
Ok my redness was gone by the end of the day. Also it takes longer then 3-4 days for your hair to fall out.1-2 weeks is more accurate. It sounds like they have an antique laser. I didn't have any kind of pain meds and yes my face hurt but it wasn't unbearable. I did tear up, but hey it only lasted five minutes. You might want to look into a different place with a better laser.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Sophie Lou on May 03, 2015, 08:33:22 PM
Post by: Sophie Lou on May 03, 2015, 08:33:22 PM
Quote from: Urban Christina on May 03, 2015, 04:32:09 PM
I don't use any numbing cream or anything prior to my sessions. I just want to ensure that nothing will affect the effectiveness of laser. It's most the painful thing I've ever did to myself so far but so worth it! Just keep mental images of celebrites you wanna look like, it works for me. Haha!
Just to be clear, numbing cream has no effect on the effectiveness of the laser. If anything, not wearing numbing cream could reduce the effectiveness, since numbing cream will allow the technician to turn up the laser to a higher setting, or cover more area, since the pain tolerance of the customer will be higher.
I don't want people to skip numbing cream, for no reason, and be in pain because they think it will somehow inhibit the effectiveness of the laser...
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Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: awilliams1701 on May 03, 2015, 08:42:46 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on May 03, 2015, 08:42:46 PM
I didn't have any and while it hurt, I never asked her to stop either. I would say about half of it is gone 4 days later.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on May 03, 2015, 09:40:32 PM
Post by: iKate on May 03, 2015, 09:40:32 PM
Quote from: Sophie Lou on May 03, 2015, 08:33:22 PM
Just to be clear, numbing cream has no effect on the effectiveness of the laser. If anything, not wearing numbing cream could reduce the effectiveness, since numbing cream will allow the technician to turn up the laser to a higher setting, or cover more area, since the pain tolerance of the customer will be higher.
I don't want people to skip numbing cream, for no reason, and be in pain because they think it will somehow inhibit the effectiveness of the laser...
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Absolutely this.
Without the numbing cream my sessions would still be at the lower setting. With the cream she was able to turn it up and do longer pulses for a more complete and effective kill.
Numbing cream works and works well.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Aoife on May 04, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
Post by: Aoife on May 04, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
I don't know the details of the laser that is used at the place I go to, but it is called "Cynosure Elite".
I havn't been using a cream before (3 sessions from January until now) and my next appointment is on this Friday and I will try a cream, so I will let you all know my feelings afterwards.
I allow take 6 weeks between appointments because I also do Electro between sessions.
The electro machine is called "Apilus Platinum Pure 27MHz" and I usually get between 30-60 minutes done at a time.
I do the electro about 2 weeks roughly after the hairs start to fall out and at first the lady would just get the clear or white hairs but now she just gets whatever is leftover.
The upper lip and chin are still stubborn and the hardest to keep clear, but my neck and cheeks are basically smooth and clear now. there is still a shadow but it only appears closer to the laser appointment. I am hoping it will not appear ever again soon.
As for pain, it is pretty painful but I have survived so far. LOL
I havn't been using a cream before (3 sessions from January until now) and my next appointment is on this Friday and I will try a cream, so I will let you all know my feelings afterwards.
I allow take 6 weeks between appointments because I also do Electro between sessions.
The electro machine is called "Apilus Platinum Pure 27MHz" and I usually get between 30-60 minutes done at a time.
I do the electro about 2 weeks roughly after the hairs start to fall out and at first the lady would just get the clear or white hairs but now she just gets whatever is leftover.
The upper lip and chin are still stubborn and the hardest to keep clear, but my neck and cheeks are basically smooth and clear now. there is still a shadow but it only appears closer to the laser appointment. I am hoping it will not appear ever again soon.
As for pain, it is pretty painful but I have survived so far. LOL
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: SarahSchilling on May 07, 2015, 02:38:26 AM
Post by: SarahSchilling on May 07, 2015, 02:38:26 AM
I've done 5 alexandrite laser session on my whole face, and then 5 more on just my upper/lower lip. It got rid of pretty much everything. (Felt like getting popped by rubber bands all over my face. Rubber bands on fire.)
A couple of months later, 15% or so came back in. I've done 18 hours of electrolysis by a skilled operator using the (amazing) 24 mhz Apilus Platinum machine to clear that (and the blondes that laser couldn't get). It hurts, but not nearly as bad as laser. (Unless you do the bikini line. I cried, literally.) I've read that it's much more painful with more primitive machines, and with blend or galvanic modalities. A modern thermolysis machine is the way to go, imo. You really need to do your homework here, because in many states electrolysis isnt regulated at all, and there are a lot of hacks out there. :(
I think laser first is a good idea to thin things out, if you have dark hair and light skin. Doing electrolysis with no laser first would have been horrible.
Hair removal is expensive and frustratingly slow, but totally worth it in the long run! Good luck :)
Oh, and I've never used any numbing cream or anything. *Shrugs*
A couple of months later, 15% or so came back in. I've done 18 hours of electrolysis by a skilled operator using the (amazing) 24 mhz Apilus Platinum machine to clear that (and the blondes that laser couldn't get). It hurts, but not nearly as bad as laser. (Unless you do the bikini line. I cried, literally.) I've read that it's much more painful with more primitive machines, and with blend or galvanic modalities. A modern thermolysis machine is the way to go, imo. You really need to do your homework here, because in many states electrolysis isnt regulated at all, and there are a lot of hacks out there. :(
I think laser first is a good idea to thin things out, if you have dark hair and light skin. Doing electrolysis with no laser first would have been horrible.
Hair removal is expensive and frustratingly slow, but totally worth it in the long run! Good luck :)
Oh, and I've never used any numbing cream or anything. *Shrugs*
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: amber roskamp on May 07, 2015, 09:00:35 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on May 07, 2015, 09:00:35 AM
My doctor has been increasing the power of the lasers each time and I had my 3rd session last night and omg it hurt so bad... I'm gonna have to get pain meds for sure next time. Also my face broke out some this time. O well it's totally worth it.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on May 14, 2015, 07:28:16 AM
Post by: cindy16 on May 14, 2015, 07:28:16 AM
Quote from: amber roskamp on May 03, 2015, 05:01:39 PM
Ok my redness was gone by the end of the day. Also it takes longer then 3-4 days for your hair to fall out.1-2 weeks is more accurate. It sounds like they have an antique laser. I didn't have any kind of pain meds and yes my face hurt but it wasn't unbearable. I did tear up, but hey it only lasted five minutes. You might want to look into a different place with a better laser.
For me, the pain went away that night itself, the redness in about 1-2 days, and the hair fell out in about 2 weeks.
However, I think they had missed some parts last time so I was left with a weirdly shaped beard shadow which became more apparent when the burnt hair fell out. Even with a close shave twice a day, it was visible. I had friends and family asking about it (not out to them yet) and I just made up some excuses.
I had my second session yesterday so hopefully it will disappear in 1-2 weeks now. This session seemed more painful though, as they turned up the power, and even though my face looked clear before going in, it felt as if a lot of hair still got zapped. I won't say the pain was unbearable, but I did shake and grimace a lot and tear up as well.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on May 14, 2015, 11:09:55 AM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on May 14, 2015, 11:09:55 AM
One somewhat minor thing I've noticed that I wanted to add to this thread: HRT may have a small effect on how long the shedding phase lasts, since spiro + some form of oestrogen (Estradiol for me) will often have an effect on body hair growth. I'm not sure if this affects how quickly hair follicles grow in. However, my last laser session was the first I've had while being on HRT (just entering my second month of HRT, and on my seventh laser session), and it does seem like the individual hairs on my face are taking longer to be pushed up so that they can be shed, which has extended the shedding phase for me by a little longer. I may be imagining it, but it feels like the hairs are taking an extra half-day to a day to appear, whereas it was much more consistent before I started HRT.
The negative effect of this is that, though I have very little facial hair left, the small bits of greenish shadow have been lasting a little longer than I would like them to. Again, I'm not sure if this is due to HRT, especially since I'm so early into it, but it's definitely the first time I'm noticing the hairs behaving in this way.
It's also a little frustrating because HRT makes your skin smoother, as has begun to happen for me, and I find shaving has to be done more delicately than before; it hurts a little more to do it, and I've nicked myself more than usual.
The negative effect of this is that, though I have very little facial hair left, the small bits of greenish shadow have been lasting a little longer than I would like them to. Again, I'm not sure if this is due to HRT, especially since I'm so early into it, but it's definitely the first time I'm noticing the hairs behaving in this way.
It's also a little frustrating because HRT makes your skin smoother, as has begun to happen for me, and I find shaving has to be done more delicately than before; it hurts a little more to do it, and I've nicked myself more than usual.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Dee Marshall on May 14, 2015, 01:06:43 PM
Post by: Dee Marshall on May 14, 2015, 01:06:43 PM
What you say is plausible, Gabrielle. My facial hair takes twice as long to come in now. Some hopeful news for you. I had the same issue with softer skin and cutting myself, but some time in the last 8 months of HRT my facial hair has become less course and shaves off more easily. Haven't started later or electro yet. Been out of work a while looking forward to it anxiously.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on May 14, 2015, 05:22:29 PM
Post by: iKate on May 14, 2015, 05:22:29 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on May 07, 2015, 09:00:35 AM
My doctor has been increasing the power of the lasers each time and I had my 3rd session last night and omg it hurt so bad... I'm gonna have to get pain meds for sure next time. Also my face broke out some this time. O well it's totally worth it.
The tech turned up the heat and gave longer pulses last time. Oh baby it was so hot but so good! This was my 3rd session.
I really broke out with pepperspots all over.
But now it's all shredded, I am not shaven for a few days and all I have is a light fuzz and a few strays.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on May 16, 2015, 02:20:56 PM
Post by: cindy16 on May 16, 2015, 02:20:56 PM
Quote from: awilliams1701 on May 01, 2015, 12:11:59 PM
I'm not sure what's worse. The brief pain or the long lasting smell of burning hair and flesh.
For me, the pain and that smell both go away by the next morning.
Quote from: awilliams1701 on May 01, 2015, 12:11:59 PM
Oh and the worst thing was between the eyebrows. That hurt the worst by far. The area just under the nose was a close second.
I've only got my eyebrows threaded, and shave the rest of my body hair. They asked if I wanted any of it lasered but I said 'no, thanks'. Lasering the face is painful enough as it is. :P
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: amber roskamp on May 16, 2015, 02:26:38 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on May 16, 2015, 02:26:38 PM
The worst part is waiting for them to fall out talk about torture. Ugh!
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: cindy16 on May 17, 2015, 03:55:51 AM
Post by: cindy16 on May 17, 2015, 03:55:51 AM
Quote from: amber roskamp on May 16, 2015, 02:26:38 PM
The worst part is waiting for them to fall out talk about torture. Ugh!
I agree. I am not out yet so I didn't mind that unshaveable stubble after the first session last month, but after this session, I am just waiting for that weird pattern on my face to disappear. Having patches of such stubble is far worse.. it gets noticed much more :-\
Title: First laser session
Post by: iKate on May 17, 2015, 06:04:03 AM
Post by: iKate on May 17, 2015, 06:04:03 AM
Quote from: cindy16 on May 17, 2015, 03:55:51 AM
I agree. I am not out yet so I didn't mind that unshaveable stubble after the first session last month, but after this session, I am just waiting for that weird pattern on my face to disappear. Having patches of such stubble is far worse.. it gets noticed much more :-\
2-3 weeks you'll be in heaven, trust me. Right now all mine shedded off and regrowth is much, much finer. My face is so smooth even after 2-3 days not shaving. I'm going to get another session in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Jessika on June 09, 2015, 04:18:39 PM
Post by: Jessika on June 09, 2015, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: iKate on May 17, 2015, 06:04:03 AMHmmm,
2-3 weeks you'll be in heaven, trust me. Right now all mine shedded off and regrowth is much, much finer. My face is so smooth even after 2-3 days not shaving. I'm going to get another session in a couple of weeks.
My face is not smooth 2-3 days after shaving. It's like sandpaper and the white hairs are out. The black ones are there, just not as prominent. It's like the same hair is there , it just grows back slower.
I had 5 sessions.
This pic is me after I shaved yesterday....
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Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on June 09, 2015, 04:19:50 PM
Post by: iKate on June 09, 2015, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: Jessika on June 09, 2015, 04:18:39 PM
Hmmm,
My face is not smooth 2-3 days after shaving. It's like sandpaper and the white hairs are out. The black ones are there, just not as prominent. It's like the same hair is there , it just grows back slower.
I had 5 sessions.
You have white hairs. I don't really have any.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Jessika on June 09, 2015, 04:25:25 PM
Post by: Jessika on June 09, 2015, 04:25:25 PM
Added Pic..See the dark?
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: SamanthaMQ on June 09, 2015, 09:58:11 PM
Post by: SamanthaMQ on June 09, 2015, 09:58:11 PM
From what I'm piecing together here, skin tone and hair color play a major role in how effective Laser removal is. Also that is is a good idea to start facial hair removal before starting HRT treatments.
The question I have is, although I have very light skin, I also have very light hair (strawberry blonde). Is laser even an option for me? Should I just go electrolysis?
Thanks,
Samantha MQ
The question I have is, although I have very light skin, I also have very light hair (strawberry blonde). Is laser even an option for me? Should I just go electrolysis?
Thanks,
Samantha MQ
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Mariah on June 09, 2015, 10:16:36 PM
Post by: Mariah on June 09, 2015, 10:16:36 PM
Dark hair is a must for laser. Electro is your best bet in that case. Hugs
Mariah
Mariah
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Lalauri on June 09, 2015, 10:20:32 PM
Post by: Lalauri on June 09, 2015, 10:20:32 PM
I'm a bit confused about hair removal and things to do with that. I would like to get hair removal done on my face and maybe upper body (figure I can deal with my legs just about) but I don't know the difference between laser and electrolysis and I don't know how likely I am to be able to find a dermatologist/hair removal place/laserist/hair removalist person thing local to me, or to be able to afford it. I thought posting here might be better than starting my own thread; can anyone help point me in the right direction?
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Mariah on June 09, 2015, 10:40:49 PM
Post by: Mariah on June 09, 2015, 10:40:49 PM
It might help if we had an idea where you are like what state. Secondly, laser targets areas and electro hits each one separately. Laser is for dark hair and electro can handle all. Laser is cheaper than electro because it hits multiple hairs at once, but both are expensive and time consuming. Hugs
Mariah
Mariah
Quote from: Lalauri on June 09, 2015, 10:20:32 PM
I'm a bit confused about hair removal and things to do with that. I would like to get hair removal done on my face and maybe upper body (figure I can deal with my legs just about) but I don't know the difference between laser and electrolysis and I don't know how likely I am to be able to find a dermatologist/hair removal place/laserist/hair removalist person thing local to me, or to be able to afford it. I thought posting here might be better than starting my own thread; can anyone help point me in the right direction?
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Jessika on June 09, 2015, 11:02:07 PM
Post by: Jessika on June 09, 2015, 11:02:07 PM
I have my 6th Laser session on July 1st. After that I will switch to Electrolysis. Starting that slow as it will cost more.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Lalauri on June 09, 2015, 11:30:43 PM
Post by: Lalauri on June 09, 2015, 11:30:43 PM
Thanks Mariah. I'm in central Queensland, Australia. One of my main worries is we are in a reasonably small town although still a local centre. I've heard it's best to start sooner rather than later so want to start ASAP, but on the other hand we are moving hopefully in the next few months to a state capital, so I think I might have better options there. But also so sick of waiting.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Mariah on June 09, 2015, 11:34:41 PM
Post by: Mariah on June 09, 2015, 11:34:41 PM
I can totally relate to the waiting thing. I'm not found of it either. As far resources in that part of Australia I'm sure someone from Australia will be able to help on that part of your question. Hugs
Mariah
Mariah
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Lalauri on June 09, 2015, 11:56:15 PM
Post by: Lalauri on June 09, 2015, 11:56:15 PM
Thanks. One thing I am confused about is I am a redhead and my facial hair is the same colour so wasn't sure which I could use.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Mariah on June 09, 2015, 11:58:34 PM
Post by: Mariah on June 09, 2015, 11:58:34 PM
I would think it wouldn't be dark enough, but they would have to look at o be sure. Secondly the shade of red comes into play so it's possible that laser might be an option but I'm thinking your electro bound. Hugs
Mariah
Mariah
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: mmmmm on June 10, 2015, 01:10:40 AM
Post by: mmmmm on June 10, 2015, 01:10:40 AM
Red hair sadly usually means electrolysis. I had mostly dark hairs, but also a few bronze patches, which were nightmare to remove. Laser didn't do anything for bronze hair until power could be set high enough, this was 9-10 sessions in. It burned the hair, but didn't do any harm to the follicle. Now at 13 sessions in, at max, it deals with bronze hair... blondish hair happily waits for electrolysis.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: awilliams1701 on June 12, 2015, 03:58:53 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on June 12, 2015, 03:58:53 PM
I've had 2 sessions and noticed it takes about 2 weeks for all the dead hair to fall out. However that's also when the next batch starts to grow. It looks 10x better, but I still have to shave daily. Fortunately I don't have a lot of white hairs, but there are certainly some there.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: mmmmm on June 12, 2015, 04:11:43 PM
Post by: mmmmm on June 12, 2015, 04:11:43 PM
You can risk a few hours and take a twezzers and pick out all the loose hair one by one. Most usually become loose at 4-6 days after, and that means you will have almost hair-free face for until the next growth cycle starts to come out (except for light color hairs...).
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: awilliams1701 on June 12, 2015, 04:22:31 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on June 12, 2015, 04:22:31 PM
I've done that a little bit. Its too much of a pain in the butt to spend any real time on it though. Fortunately with this next batch there isn't a lot left. So this next session should be a piece of cake.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Jessika on June 14, 2015, 11:44:43 PM
Post by: Jessika on June 14, 2015, 11:44:43 PM
After my 6th and last Laser session on July 1st, for the package I paid for I am trying to decide if I should just start on Electro next?
The whites are there and I'm not sure if I should get 6 more Laser sessions or just start Electro (More expensive).
The whites are there and I'm not sure if I should get 6 more Laser sessions or just start Electro (More expensive).
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Missy D on June 15, 2015, 01:48:58 PM
Post by: Missy D on June 15, 2015, 01:48:58 PM
I've got my first proper session tomorrow!! Although I've had the initial consultation and test patch done already. It's an Alexandrite laser - luckily we're cosmetic crazy in the South East (of England) thus it was easy for me to find the right place. Avoid IPL on the face - it costs the same and doesn't really work. Anyway I'm fortunate enough to have white skin and dark brown/black hair; therefore the thing should be quite effective. Actually it IS quite effective as I'm still shedding hairs from the tiny test area.
Something to try, if you don't have time to tweeze afterwards: Get a cotton flannel or towel, wet it and drag over the treated areas. It pulls the loose hairs out! Then moisturise afterwards.
Something to try, if you don't have time to tweeze afterwards: Get a cotton flannel or towel, wet it and drag over the treated areas. It pulls the loose hairs out! Then moisturise afterwards.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: awilliams1701 on June 15, 2015, 04:52:04 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on June 15, 2015, 04:52:04 PM
After my 6th, I'm moving to my legs. I plan on getting everything done eventually. I'll probably need electro as well, but I already look a ton better. I noticed my next batch of beard hair is growing in and there isn't much left. I think 6 times should do it, but we'll see. I have no idea how much of my body will be subjected to electro, but all of it will be lasered.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on June 15, 2015, 04:59:22 PM
Post by: iKate on June 15, 2015, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: awilliams1701 on June 12, 2015, 03:58:53 PM
I've had 2 sessions and noticed it takes about 2 weeks for all the dead hair to fall out. However that's also when the next batch starts to grow. It looks 10x better, but I still have to shave daily. Fortunately I don't have a lot of white hairs, but there are certainly some there.
I get like a week reprieve before I really have to shave.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: awilliams1701 on June 15, 2015, 07:32:02 PM
Post by: awilliams1701 on June 15, 2015, 07:32:02 PM
Ive got enough white hairs ill have to keep shaving until I do electrolysis.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Marissa_K on June 16, 2015, 05:28:09 AM
Post by: Marissa_K on June 16, 2015, 05:28:09 AM
Well I would like to join the 1st laser session club. Had it last night. I couldn't believe the smell of burnt hair..... Pain is manageable. I'm surprised how smooth my face is this morning. We'll see what it looks like in a few weeks.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: amber roskamp on June 16, 2015, 10:08:06 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on June 16, 2015, 10:08:06 AM
Quote from: typo on June 16, 2015, 05:28:09 AMur first one probably won't make a huge difference at all. And it is also the least painful session of any of them. I'm not trying to scare you or anything. My laser technician turns up the power each time. I have my forth session tomorrow. I am not looking forward to it.... But I am excited to see how clear my face gets. It is getting so much better each time now!
Well I would like to join the 1st laser session club. Had it last night. I couldn't believe the smell of burnt hair..... Pain is manageable. I'm surprised how smooth my face is this morning. We'll see what it looks like in a few weeks.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: awilliams1701 on June 16, 2015, 10:36:25 AM
Post by: awilliams1701 on June 16, 2015, 10:36:25 AM
I found 1 & 2 to be comparable in pain, but 2 went a lot faster.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: iKate on June 16, 2015, 10:46:12 AM
Post by: iKate on June 16, 2015, 10:46:12 AM
Quote from: amber roskamp on June 16, 2015, 10:08:06 AM
ur first one probably won't make a huge difference at all. And it is also the least painful session of any of them. I'm not trying to scare you or anything. My laser technician turns up the power each time. I have my forth session tomorrow. I am not looking forward to it.... But I am excited to see how clear my face gets. It is getting so much better each time now!
I beg to differ and this is why YMMV always.
My first laser session was extremely painful. The subsequent ones got less painful as there was less hair.
And, it made a huge difference. I had smooth in two weeks.
The power and duration did get turned up each time but the last one got turned down a bit because I got burned a bit the last time. So we are more or less at max for me.
I also learned how to better use topical anesthetic cream.
I just did session #4 last week. I'm in the shedding phase of it right now. The first week is hell because the hairs are raised and the skin is bumpy. I can't get a close shave. Week 2 is better as they begin to slide out. By week 3 I am smooth. Week 4 they start to grow back which is when I attack again. Rinse repeat.
Then again for my skin and yours we also use different lasers. They use the Nd:YAG on mine.
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: amber roskamp on June 16, 2015, 11:48:04 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on June 16, 2015, 11:48:04 AM
I guess different laser technicians probably do things slightly different. Mine said that she ups the power of the lasers each time because the hairs that grow back become more tolerant to the lasers
Title: Re: First laser session
Post by: Jessika on June 19, 2015, 02:11:34 PM
Post by: Jessika on June 19, 2015, 02:11:34 PM
Quote from: awilliams1701 on June 15, 2015, 07:32:02 PMMe too. ::)
Ive got enough white hairs ill have to keep shaving until I do electrolysis.