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Hi..
Well.. I m 30yo TS from Moscow, RU, 6month on HRT..
And I started fulltime .. less a month ago.. and it's hard but I'm really happy..
mmm..
But my prob in other things..
I faced with a trouble..
I m trying to find clinic for FFS  and breast implants, SRS in Thai (just because it's near impossibe here without approvement from psychiatrist)..
I contacted with some thai clinic and got:
Evaluating surgeon:



Recommended/approved procedures:

1.   Brow bossing Reduction (ThB 60,000 inclusive of 1 night hospital stay)

2.   Forehead Augmentation – bone cement (ThB 85,000 + 2 nights hospital stay)

3.   Genioplasty – chin reduction (ThB 92,000 + 2 nights hospital stay)

4.   Upper Blepharoplasty (ThB 18,000)

5.   Breast Implants (ThB 95,000 – 110,000 for implant sizes less than 400cc depending on the brand of the implant + 1 night hospital stay). The size of the implant is determined by the diameter of the breasts, the looseness of the skin over the breasts and the structure of the chest wall.

Surgery cost for all procedures: 350,000- 365,000 Th Baht (10,380- 10,820 USD, on today's exchange rate)

Inclusive 6 nights stay in the hospital after surgery.

Duration of stay in Bangkok: 10 – 14 days.

So is it reasonable prices?
And mb somebody can recommend other clinics that a bit cheaper :(
Thanks for any advice and help..

You need two letters of approval from two psychiatrists in order to have SRS with any reputable surgeon. And living at least 1 year full-time as desired gender is also a requirement everywhere...

Also having FFS at the same time as SRS is a really really bad idea. 

mmmmm I'm planning FFS and implant at end of this summer/begging of autumn... and SRS next spring..
All I need no bad clinics.. within logical prices :(

Hi, I'm Thai transsexual. The price you get offer is in the price range of a really good surgeon. There are cheaper one with the really nice job. Let me know what hospital you contact. Or if you like to talk with someone local, you can feel free to add my skype at naeree.song

Naeree, I added you in skype.. thank you for help!
mmmm.. I got this prices from Yanhee International hospital via medical agency..

There are only two Thailand surgeons for FFS I would recommend, based on the results available. That would be dr. Suporn and dr. Chettawut, and both of these are within logical prices. Logical price for FFS is between $20,000 and $30,000 USD, depending on procedures (and exchange rate). You need to choose a FFS surgeon based on what YOU need for your face, and choose between surgeons who have compatibale skills with what your face needs. You need to have understanding about procedures and details, and research each available surgeon individually to understand what are their strengths and what aren't. Choosing a FFS surgeon because of low price, ignoring all the important reasons, is playing russian roulette with your face, with 5 bullets and only one empty chamber.

If there would be other Thai surgeons for FFS, with the results available to prove their expertise, you wouldn't have a problem knowing about them. And price would be reasonable with that.

my life is russian roullete..
And if I can get a chance I ll try to use it..
it's 20-30.000$ is unreal money for me ..
I saved just 7.000$ .. and it's year of work :(
without any life.. I worked 24x7hours for more than 2years :(
I don't wanna look like Angeline Jolie or Demi Moore in their best years..
I just wanna look femmine enough..
And to feel myself a bit happier..
All I have now?
it's hope

Best wishes! I sincerly hope it works out for you as you want.

Quote from: _kira_ on May 28, 2015, 07:47:56 AM
my life is russian roullete..
And if I can get a chance I ll try to use it..
it's 20-30.000$ is unreal money for me ..
I saved just 7.000$ .. and it's year of work :(
without any life.. I worked 24x7hours for more than 2years :(
I don't wanna look like Angeline Jolie or Demi Moore in their best years..
I just wanna look femmine enough..
And to feel myself a bit happier..
All I have now?
it's hope

And what happens when your discount surgeon leaves you with nerve damage, infection leading to necrosis or even death from anaesthesia? Or simply makes you look even worse?

I've seen a couple of the 'clinics' these cheaper surgeons work out of.. I wouldn't send my dog there for surgery, let alone myself. One I've seen, the surgeon is also the anaesthetist, the only other person there is a 'nurse'..

I would consider PIAC in Phuket
http://www.phuket-plasticsurgery.com/fees.html
I had my SRS there with Dr Sanguan Kunaporn. He did a brilliant job. They also do facial surgery and I know people who are very happy with the results. The hospital is very modern with great nurses and doctors.
The fees seem closer to your price range.

Hi for everyone :)
I m so happy! :)
I got cool breast implants and voice surgery, and some FFS(not much >_< ) within my budget :)
(https://pp.vk.me/c621616/v621616611/2e18c/idm-MhpJ5m4.jpg)
(https://pp.vk.me/c621616/v621616611/2e3da/ch4kPFeiUhw.jpg)
And I m planning SRS on Feb (within more real prices than girls here said before.. something about 5000$ for inversion)
So I m very hopefull ..

 ;D ;D ;D

conglatulation girl

Wow. Congratulations. Are you in Thailand?

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nope, I 've returned Moscow yesterday

btw how attach avatar on forum? :(

Quote from: _kira_ on August 01, 2015, 12:59:37 PM
btw how attach avatar on forum? :(

Well you need 15 postings for that...

here is a link to help you along:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,193215.msg1722718.html#msg1722718


hugs

I am so happy for you. Are you happy with the surgical results so far?
xxxxx kisses and speedy recovery

I m fully satisfied of results ...  :)
so all my thoughts about future SRS for now..

I am very very happy for you :) Which doctor did you go to?

Quote from: Naeree on May 28, 2015, 06:53:57 AM
Hi, I'm Thai transsexual. The price you get offer is in the price range of a really good surgeon. There are cheaper one with the really nice job. Let me know what hospital you contact. Or if you like to talk with someone local, you can feel free to add my skype at naeree.song

Hi Naeree,

I am coming to Thailand in October and really want to see a specialist for ts. Can you recommend a doctor I can see initially on HRT (and possibly implant HRT) in the first instance, rather than surgery?

Many thanks,

Richenda x

Quote from: _kira_ on August 02, 2015, 12:58:01 PM
I m fully satisfied of results ...  :)
so all my thoughts about future SRS for now..

Fantastic news Kira. Congratulations x

Quote from: Richenda on August 08, 2015, 03:20:03 PM
Hi Naeree,

I am coming to Thailand in October and really want to see a specialist for ts. Can you recommend a doctor I can see initially on HRT (and possibly implant HRT) in the first instance, rather than surgery?

Many thanks,

Richenda x

Hi Richenda

We have ts hormone specialist here check out http://www.doctoratiwut.com/ it's in Thai so many be you can email him for information you want to know at atiwut@gmail.com

In Thailand TS doesn't really do HRT implant, I think there are HRT Implant in Gynecology use in hospital. But for ts hrt treatment in Thailand mostly pill or injection or patches. Anyway if you are in US UK or Aus, you probably find a good endocrinologist. In Thailand is really good at TS surgery, but for hormone treatment support by specialist still not popular.

By the way you can drop me a hi when you come to Thailand, I like to make new friend from different places ;)

That's so sweet and thank you Naeree so much. I will definitely drop you a line then when I'm on my way there.

Can I ask you a question then? How do so many pre-op (pre SRS) katoey look so incredibly and beautifully feminine? Is that 'just' from pills, patches and surgery like FRS?

Rx

p.s. I've just google translated on the link and it looks good! Can you tell me where in Thailand he is based?

To be honest I got it through agency .. I remember surgerior for voice .. she is Dr. Ornouma Srivanishvipat.
and mmm.. Dr. Pradit .. surgerior who did breast.

well I want avatar :(

well just 3 post.. I need just three post for avatar :)

two posts :) by the way I can share all details about trip and surgery.. but I prefer mmm PM

well , talk to us , the posts will add up  :)  :*

by the way voice my new voice really scared collegues at office :) they said ... your voice changed.. how ;))))))))))

and one post, yeah :)

Quote from: Richenda on August 09, 2015, 03:43:55 AM
That's so sweet and thank you Naeree so much. I will definitely drop you a line then when I'm on my way there.

Can I ask you a question then? How do so many pre-op (pre SRS) katoey look so incredibly and beautifully feminine? Is that 'just' from pills, patches and surgery like FRS?

Rx

I guess most kateoy are feminine because they start transition and hrt at young age. Like in school or high school. So it's normal to see really feminine boy with boy uniform and boy school haircut in every school. By the time they are 18 they already a girl. Some start at older age too but not many. The popular way of HRT in Thailand is injection and pills.

And may be Asia structure got smaller bone frame. Like when I'm in US I feel that I have average girl height and weight, but when I'm in Thailand, I feel like giant. Btw I think any trans start HRT at the age of 15 would be feminine as well, no need to be Asian.

And for surgery, it's depends, some done alot, some don't. We basically have access to many Male to female info and support society, less complicated process, cheaper hormone supply, and cheaper good surgery. And the surgery habbit of Thai girl is different than the rest, most of them do surgery little by little, like a bit on eyes, a bit on nose later and keep get a bit of surgery done forever, I know a girl who get nose done for 15 times. Not many get full FFS at once.

Sample pic of school trans we call "Look Jeab (mean Little Duckling)"  it's before they turn into beautiful Swan
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tlcthai.com%2Feducation%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F03%2Fyoshi-1.jpg&hash=4055ea788b2fbdd7eafe18ad812b6844ad5d2523)

Another possibility is there are so many trans here, that's why people see alot of nice feminine Thai TS, but there many more Thai trans, probably most of them, have the average look. Not all is beautiful feminine.

Hi Naeree,

That's so interesting. Thank you so much for taking the time to give such a detailed explanation. I've travelled through Thailand twice, both times in connection with my work. This next time, as you know, I'm hoping to speak with someone about my situation. The background explanations you have given make complete sense.

I guess I'm quite realistic about what's going to be possible given that I'm not a Look Jeab :) I think for me it's partly about 'feeling' that some transition is happening.

I could live in Thailand: my work means I can live almost anywhere and I love the country although without illusions (I think!). Perhaps if I do then I can take that gradual approach to surgery, which sounds very sensible for those who can make it happen that way.

Thank you so much. ขอบคุณมาก

Richenda x

Quote from: _kira_ on August 09, 2015, 07:48:44 AM
by the way voice my new voice really scared collegues at office :) they said ... your voice changed.. how ;))))))))))

That is so funny :) Black magic :))) LOL

What FFS did you get done?

Quote from: _kira_ on August 09, 2015, 07:48:44 AM
by the way voice my new voice really scared collegues at office :) they said ... your voice changed.. how ;))))))))))

Do you have a link to this doctor by chance? I'd like to read about the type of procedure they do for voice surgery. If you know what they did, I'd be very interested in hear details. Wondering if they do it like Yeeson or something else entirely.

Wait.. is this her? http://www.dr-ornouma.com/index.php/about

Wow, that is so cheap, who is the surgeon? I'm leaning with the other poster in recommending the big two names - Chett and Suporn. I've booked with Chett myself.

Quote from: mmmmm on May 28, 2015, 06:28:13 AM
You need two letters of approval from two psychiatrists in order to have SRS with any reputable surgeon. And living at least 1 year full-time as desired gender is also a requirement everywhere...

Some places only require one letter and other places, including reputable ones, will actually assist with the letters ... I shall say no more about that.

As for living one year full-time as the desired gender, tbh I've no idea what it really means and I don't think those who invented the rule do either. All that should be checked is that it's not a whim, but if you've spent 40 years knowing you're in the wrong body but unable to do anything about it then anyone else can b-off imho about telling you what's right and wrong. It's a pretty silly 'rule.' We are the ones who decide, not others.

love, Chen xx

Quote from: Naeree on May 28, 2015, 06:53:57 AM
Hi, I'm Thai transsexual. The price you get offer is in the price range of a really good surgeon. There are cheaper one with the really nice job. Let me know what hospital you contact. Or if you like to talk with someone local, you can feel free to add my skype at naeree.song

Hi Naeree I am munni from India.
I am planning to start with HRT and come to Thailand for SRS. Looking for friends in Thai who can guide me with the process.

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Quote from: munni.cute on September 06, 2015, 03:22:12 AM
Hi Naeree I am munni from India.
I am planning to start with HRT and come to Thailand for SRS. Looking for friends in Thai who can guide me with the process.

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Hi Munni, I would love to get to know friend from India, I use to be in Bangalore for a year. How is your transition goes there.

Hi I just started with my journey still in the process of finding an endo. I don't want to take Harmone with out prescription..

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Ru an Indian? Why were u in Bangalore before?

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Will add u in Skype for sure dear. So sweet of u :)

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Quote from: munni.cute on September 07, 2015, 10:02:32 AM
Ru an Indian? Why were u in Bangalore before?

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No, I'm Thai but I studied at college in Bangalore University 13 years ago. We didn't see much Trans (Hijra) back there. And I was still not transition yet. I guess there are more trans in Bangalore now a day. I wish I get a chance to wear Sari some day.

Great.... I will help u out with saree once...:) I am also trying out a job in Thai as your country is transfriendly. Let's see how the things will work with me.

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Quote from: Naeree on September 08, 2015, 05:46:41 AM
I wish I get a chance to wear Sari some day.

You can start right now... its quite easy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejKmf7uuIaQ


hugs

Sari is very expensive in Thailand. And what amazing about Indian Sari is Indian ladies still wear it in daily life, so unique. One of the few countries that people still wear traditional cloth in daily life

Quote from: Naeree on September 12, 2015, 09:44:14 AM
Sari is very expensive in Thailand. And what amazing about Indian Sari is Indian ladies still wear it in daily life, so unique. One of the few countries that people still wear traditional cloth in daily life

Well you can easily make one yourself, or have it made.
You need a cloth of width to the waist and a length of 5,5-8 mtrs. You can have a border decoration added to half of the borders, or all around.
A cloth in a plain colour is very attractive.
You might try using a string or a belt instead of a petticoat.

Well you might also try for everyday use... or at least for some time of a day...
maybe people simply think you are from india  :)

Quote from: Laura_7 on September 12, 2015, 12:54:16 PM
Well you can easily make one yourself, or have it made.
You need a cloth of width to the waist and a length of 5,5-8 mtrs. You can have a border decoration added to half of the borders, or all around.
A cloth in a plain colour is very attractive.
You might try using a string or a belt instead of a petticoat.

Well you might also try for everyday use... or at least for some time of a day...
maybe people simply think you are from india  :)

Yeahh, I should try DIY Sari. This remind me of when I was young like 8, when nobody home, I always use the bed sheet to lap around me make it a dress  ;D and walk around the house ^__^

Quote from: Naeree on September 13, 2015, 04:14:05 AM
Yeahh, I should try DIY Sari. This remind me of when I was young like 8, when nobody home, I always use the bed sheet to lap around me make it a dress  ;D and walk around the house ^__^

Yes  :)
Imo its much more fun. You can choose the cloth, adornings and linings, and can work on it while envisioning how it will look like.
That way its much more fun.
Ready sarees are a bit more pricey because they are all pre stitched, like a gown.
But it can be fun to wrap a sari, and you not necessarily need a petticoat. If you use solid cloth (not see through) you are free in your choice.
Its also possible to stitch pieces in place if its worn this way often.

Here is a tutorial on how to make one:
http://happiestladies.blogspot.de/2013/07/how-to-make-sari.html
There is a picture included with borders. Basically you need a plain cloth and if desired some kind of border.
Too much adornment is not necessary imo.
If its not possible to find a cloth two bed sheets sewn together can also do.
Concerning length its possible to use a length of up to 8 mtrs. This way the bengali style draping can be used, which can also cover the head for example.
In larger crowds it can be relieving and give some feeling of protection.
In bengali style a longer piece of cloth is draped over the left shoulder and brought back up under the right shoulder, and finally placed over the right shoulder. No special blouse is necessary this way.

Quote from: Naeree on May 28, 2015, 06:53:57 AM
Hi, I'm Thai transsexual. The price you get offer is in the price range of a really good surgeon. There are cheaper one with the really nice job. Let me know what hospital you contact. Or if you like to talk with someone local, you can feel free to add my skype at naeree.song

Hello Naeree! I'm really interested in Thai FFS doctors other than Suporn and Chettawut. I'm Asian, and I notice that most of Suporn and Chettawut's patients are westerners. I feel like Thai trans must have their own favorite doctors, but since I don't know Thai, I can't find out about them. My main area of concern is forehead.

It would be very helpful if you PM me about the other FFS options in Thailand (price not an issue). It'd be such a big help!

Hi Naeree, long overdue but thanks for the PM! I couldn't reply as I don't have 15 posts yet, so I wasn't sure how to respond... so I guess this is the only way. :)

I'm interested in Kamol! Does he do type 3 foreheads? His write up on foreheads is a little hard to understand, and from the drawings he seems to prefer implant and shaving of brow?

I'm actually interested in the other procedures offered at the clinic too. Small things, like the slimming treatments and laser. I think it's a good way to test the service and skill of his staff.

Quote from: maquillage on December 04, 2015, 12:08:20 AM
Hi Naeree, long overdue but thanks for the PM! I couldn't reply as I don't have 15 posts yet, so I wasn't sure how to respond... so I guess this is the only way. :)

I'm interested in Kamol! Does he do type 3 foreheads? His write up on foreheads is a little hard to understand, and from the drawings he seems to prefer implant and shaving of brow?

I'm actually interested in the other procedures offered at the clinic too. Small things, like the slimming treatments and laser. I think it's a good way to test the service and skill of his staff.

For most FFS surgeries include forehead and brow area, is more individual, some may need to shave some may need augmentation. Most surgeons will able to tell you what you need and what they can create for you and what is a best fit technique that should be use in your particular case. For the procedure there are common procedures of forehead like brow reduction, brows lift, brows contouring, Forehead augmentation or Forehead contouring or reconstruction which is type 3 as you mention.

Kamol is a good one for FFS, some of my friend get surgeries with him and they got the beautiful work. Anyway, if you like to talk, you can contact me at my email naeree.s@gmail.com or my Skype : naeree.song

Thanks Naeree... but do you know anyone who did this type of forehead reconstruction (see video)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXSnTil9HFA
It's where the sinus gets set back so the male forehead achieves a female range entirely, without the need for augmentation.

Every before and after photo on Kamol appears to be augmentation + shave. Personally I do not want augmentation.

If he does do what I want, I'm curious about his approach for type 3 forehead. Some surgeons differ and modify the technique slightly.

On his website, all the English information I can find is this:

Quote"Procedure 3 :  Forehead bone contouring is a bone depression at the outer table of frontal bone in front of frontal air sinus. The procedure is preserved for those who have prominent forehead bone and deep set eyes."

I know, sometime Thai hospital website have confusing details right, that may be because sometime the one who wrote and do the website are the hospital staffs. And many times two different hospitals have different names on the same technique...

From the video, that is one of the common brow and forehead shaving procedure. And yes, most good surgeons in Thailand do that. And different surgeons have slightly different skill on performing, cause doing this involving artistic skill of the surgeon as well. Also depend on how your forehead and brow condition is, some have thick some have thin one. Mostly surgeons will be able to reduce the brow by 4-5 mm. from what I seen.

And for the augmentation, it's depend on individual cases, some need to lower the brow and increase the forehead, some just need to lower the brows and a bit of forehead shaving. In you case if you just need to lower the brows include sinus bone and shave the forehead then surgeons will not do augmentation. You can tell surgeon on what you need and what you don't need and your expectation on the outcome. With Kamol experiences, I think he can do what you need, forehead and brow shaving without augmentation.

And the sample photo of past work, mostly hospital will publish few picture on their website. Usually they will show you the sample that match your need during consultation.

Quote from: Naeree on December 06, 2015, 03:47:44 AM
From the video, that is one of the common brow and forehead shaving procedure. And yes, most good surgeons in Thailand do that. And different surgeons have slightly different skill on performing, cause doing this involving artistic skill of the surgeon as well. Also depend on how your forehead and brow condition is, some have thick some have thin one. Mostly surgeons will be able to reduce the brow by 4-5 mm. from what I seen.

A presented technique in a video is not a shaving procedure. Its "type3" reconstruction surgery with frontal sinus bone plate removal and set-back. Its not a standard nor common procedure, and very few surgeons are properly trained to do it, worldwide. Surely there are plastic surgeons who are also willing to do it, although most often reluctantly, and prefer to avoid it and talk the patient out of it. Reason for that is they are not trained and they dont have the necessary skills for performing such surgeries. Its not a problem if everything goes as planned and desired, the problem is when it doesnt, and they dont have the skills to resolve it. This is why this procedure should be left to surgeons who have appropriate knowledge and skills in craniofacial surgery. And there are not many of those. The problem is that patients have started to ask for it because the information has spreaded with internet, and some plastic surgeons will -although reluctantly- take the money and attempt to do it, despite the fact that they dont have the training required to do it safely.

@Naeree

Ah, that's not just the simple brow shaving (a lot of surgeons do that, I know)... From what I researched, many surgeons can shave the bone down, but not a lot can do a proper type 3 forehead reconstruction.

The key point and most important aspect I am looking for is on 0:50 (of video), where they cut out the front bone of your sinus and take it out, then reshape it, then put it back with titanium screws to secure it in place.

A simple shaving may not be enough if someone has thin bone and a big sinus (air pocket).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.virtualffs.co.uk%2Fforehead%2520images%2Fthin%2520frontal%2520bone.jpg&hash=2d10b345ea14e6c0b964c5a03248b860dc005555)
Just so we know we're on the same page... if someone wanted her forehead to be at the red line, what technique would be used? Notice the red line intersects a hollow sinus cavity.

Quote from: Lagertha on December 06, 2015, 04:30:12 AM
A presented technique in a video is not a shaving procedure. Its "type3" reconstruction surgery with frontal sinus bone plate removal and set-back. Its not a standard nor common procedure, and very few surgeons are properly trained to do it, worldwide. Surely there are plastic surgeons who are also willing to do it, although most often reluctantly, and prefer to avoid it and talk the patient out of it. Reason for that is they are not trained and they dont have the necessary skills for performing such surgeries. Its not a problem if everything goes as planned and desired, the problem is when it doesnt, and they dont have the skills to resolve it. This is why this procedure should be left to surgeons who have appropriate knowledge and skills in craniofacial surgery. And there are not many of those. The problem is that patients have started to ask for it because the information has spreaded with internet, and some plastic surgeons will -although reluctantly- take the money and attempt to do it, despite the fact that they dont have the training required to do it safely.

Thank you. You said what I was starting to suspect, or had a feeling about (but couldn't quite put it into words). I will definitely be more cautious.

Well, if your talk about surgeons qualification, Kamol, Suporn, PAI, they are one of the world most experiences in FFS. They are more leading in these kind of knowledge. I think you can find their qualification easily. And I don't think they will -although reluctantly- take the money and attempt to do it. These surgeons are rich and quite straight forward, they would tell you straight up if they can not do it. Or there are too much risk.

I'm not really sure how it work in other countries, but in these Thai top surgeons doing Type 3 Forehead is perform to many cases. (The reconstruction by remove the Sinus bone, reshape it and put it back with titanium plate.) What I suggest is try send your face photo to surgeon for assessment, tell them that what you want and tell them how much you expect to reduce your brows , forehead and sinus bone. I can assist you on that, you can specify that you want type 3 forehead technique. And then you will know how surgeon evaluate you and what technique they think it is best for you to have your desired outcome. So you can use that for your decision.

In Kamol website, they mention ""Procedure 3 :  Forehead bone contouring is a bone depression at the outer table of frontal bone in front of frontal air sinus. The procedure is preserved for those who have prominent forehead bone and deep set eyes."

, but Suporn's website have quit clearly explain on this procedure. http://www.supornclinic.com/restricted/ffs/ProcedureDescriptions/ForeheadReconstruction.aspx (http://www.supornclinic.com/restricted/ffs/ProcedureDescriptions/ForeheadReconstruction.aspx)

Im glad you found some happiness :)

kira,
Who did your voice surgery and how did it turn out?

Take care,
Stephanie

Quote from: _kira_ on August 01, 2015, 06:36:13 AM
Hi for everyone :)
I m so happy! :)
I got cool breast implants and voice surgery, and some FFS(not much >_< ) within my budget :)
(https://pp.vk.me/c621616/v621616611/2e18c/idm-MhpJ5m4.jpg)
(https://pp.vk.me/c621616/v621616611/2e3da/ch4kPFeiUhw.jpg)
And I m planning SRS on Feb (within more real prices than girls here said before.. something about 5000$ for inversion)
So I m very hopefull ..

Congratulations on your surgeries, what doctor did you end up going to in thailand?