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Title: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: ilovehormones on June 06, 2015, 07:42:16 PM
Post by: ilovehormones on June 06, 2015, 07:42:16 PM
I feel like the biggest build around http://imgur.com/lWuVWYm
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: Stephanie00Rayne on June 06, 2015, 07:58:43 PM
Post by: Stephanie00Rayne on June 06, 2015, 07:58:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6HaVYg6kB4&list=FLXOo6QfSGg5Ycl19350TLXg
You're tiny compared to her at her largest size. ;)
You're tiny compared to her at her largest size. ;)
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: Ms Grace on June 06, 2015, 08:04:35 PM
Post by: Ms Grace on June 06, 2015, 08:04:35 PM
Have I ever seen a more masculine body and broader shoulders than yours?
Yes. Yes I have.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bodybuilding.com%2Ffun%2Fimages%2F2008%2Farnold_friends_insights_b.jpg&hash=ed399246256e360345914cdb9d3d1a089660abae)
Don't panic or get ahead of yourself worrying about those details, HRT can change a lot.
Yes. Yes I have.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bodybuilding.com%2Ffun%2Fimages%2F2008%2Farnold_friends_insights_b.jpg&hash=ed399246256e360345914cdb9d3d1a089660abae)
Don't panic or get ahead of yourself worrying about those details, HRT can change a lot.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: Dena on June 06, 2015, 08:06:48 PM
Post by: Dena on June 06, 2015, 08:06:48 PM
Yes, my body has broader shoulders than yours. The trick is not to use form fitting garments and stay way from straps/sleeveless tops. Losing weight to get in the recommend weight for you body also helps. I am 5'14" and my weight should be between 140 and 190 pounds but my best weight is about 170 pounds. My body carries the weight on the tummy and spare tire so it's weight I don't mind losing.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: CarlyMcx on June 06, 2015, 11:27:54 PM
Post by: CarlyMcx on June 06, 2015, 11:27:54 PM
Bruce Jenner definitely comes to mind. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets-s3.usmagazine.com%2Fuploads%2Fassets%2Farticles%2F79123-bruce-jenner-turns-65-see-the-olympic-stars-best-vintage-pictures%2F1414505574_bruce-jenner-olympics-zoom.jpg&hash=a55130b604517f80aad1e5b6e1b26162f4b292d0)
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: sam1234 on June 07, 2015, 12:01:30 AM
Post by: sam1234 on June 07, 2015, 12:01:30 AM
Regardless of how masculine you looked prior to transitioning, I wouldn't recognize the old you from your current picture.
there are all kinds of body types in both men and women. I think sometimes we are just more sensitive to how we look(ed) before because WE know.
sam1234
there are all kinds of body types in both men and women. I think sometimes we are just more sensitive to how we look(ed) before because WE know.
sam1234
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: Eva Marie on June 07, 2015, 12:10:05 AM
Post by: Eva Marie on June 07, 2015, 12:10:05 AM
I used to do a lot of work on cars and had huge shoulders and arms. HRT has pretty much taken care of that :laugh: Loading a 35lb jug of cat litter into my grocery cart has become quite the struggle now. I am no longer afraid to show off my shoulders (see my avatar pic).
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: Laurette Mohr on June 07, 2015, 12:10:43 AM
Post by: Laurette Mohr on June 07, 2015, 12:10:43 AM
Oh heavens yesssssss. I'm built like a football player. 6 foot 4 inches 380 pounds. I started my journey Jan 08 2015 at 420 pounds.That's 5 months on HRT. My shoulders have shrunk a lot since then. Don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: Jessica_W on June 24, 2015, 04:16:22 PM
Post by: Jessica_W on June 24, 2015, 04:16:22 PM
Quote from: Laurette Mohr on June 07, 2015, 12:10:43 AM
Oh heavens yesssssss. I'm built like a football player. 6 foot 4 inches 380 pounds. I started my journey Jan 08 2015 at 420 pounds.That's 5 months on HRT. My shoulders have shrunk a lot since then. Don't worry about it.
Thank God you posted that. I'm 6' 4" and 362, same build. You've given me hope. :-)
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: amber roskamp on June 24, 2015, 04:54:02 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on June 24, 2015, 04:54:02 PM
To answer your question in the topic........
Yes
Yes
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: JLT1 on June 24, 2015, 09:02:52 PM
Post by: JLT1 on June 24, 2015, 09:02:52 PM
Every time Iook in the mirror.....
You are going to be fine. You will be suprised...
Hugs
Jen
You are going to be fine. You will be suprised...
Hugs
Jen
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: Laurette Mohr on June 25, 2015, 05:27:44 AM
Post by: Laurette Mohr on June 25, 2015, 05:27:44 AM
Quote from: Jessica_W on June 24, 2015, 04:16:22 PM
Thank God you posted that. I'm 6' 4" and 362, same build. You've given me hope. :-)
Anytime dear!!!!!!!!!! Be sure that you remember what upper body strength is like. I'm rapidly losing that as well.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: AleksiJason on June 25, 2015, 06:56:42 AM
Post by: AleksiJason on June 25, 2015, 06:56:42 AM
You're fine.
I'm a FTM and my shoulders were much broader than yours PRE-T
and i didn't even lift weights back then
I'm a FTM and my shoulders were much broader than yours PRE-T
and i didn't even lift weights back then
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: barbie on June 27, 2015, 03:04:20 PM
Post by: barbie on June 27, 2015, 03:04:20 PM
Quote from: ilovehormones on June 06, 2015, 07:42:16 PM
I feel like the biggest build around http://imgur.com/lWuVWYm
Let's talk about the ratio, rather than the absolute width. It should be fair regardless of sex/gender.
My waist-to-shoulder width ratio is 0.575. Anybody else having a smaller ratio?
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/347/19026431929_92fbe0e41b_b.jpg)
barbie~~
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: Lyric on June 28, 2015, 02:53:11 PM
Post by: Lyric on June 28, 2015, 02:53:11 PM
Darn it, Barbie, you got me started. My own shoulder-to-waist ratio is .72. I'm not sure that's really the best measure to go by, though, since all I'd have to do to break even would be to gain some weight in the waistline. Comparing same-size frontal photos of several glamorous celebrities I think you'd be better off comparing the shoulders to the hips. And the waist-hip ratio is probably more important than either in achieving a pleasing feminine appearance.
I did a quick survey using some celeb pics in my photo editor and came up with this list:
Who........ Waist-to-Shoulder...Hip-to-Shoulder...Waist-to-Hip
Me .72 .87 .88
Kelly Ripa .73 .82 .89
Jessica Simpson .68 .87 .79
Gwyneth Paltrow .65 .85 .76
Jennifer Aniston .68 .84 .81
I like to watch TV host Kelly Ripa's fashions a lot because she's long waisted like me we're practically silhouette twins (though facially not even close). Anyway, I don't think the waist to shoulder ratio comparison tells much since Gwyneth Paltrow has a relatively wide ratio, but her shoulders still appear quite narrow due to the ratio of her width to height. Jessica Simpson's ratios look close to Gwyneth's but if you see them side-by-side you'll see their figures look nothing alike. You could visually minimize the appearance of wide shoulders by just wearing high heels to look taller.
As for the OP, I don't think your shoulders are unduly wide. Lots of women (both TG and otherwise) have dealt with similar figure issues and managed to look just great. One thing I've learned from my celebrity watching is that you can greatly improve most any figure issue with careful fashion selection. Don't worry about this. Do what you can with it and enjoy life.
I did a quick survey using some celeb pics in my photo editor and came up with this list:
Who........ Waist-to-Shoulder...Hip-to-Shoulder...Waist-to-Hip
Me .72 .87 .88
Kelly Ripa .73 .82 .89
Jessica Simpson .68 .87 .79
Gwyneth Paltrow .65 .85 .76
Jennifer Aniston .68 .84 .81
I like to watch TV host Kelly Ripa's fashions a lot because she's long waisted like me we're practically silhouette twins (though facially not even close). Anyway, I don't think the waist to shoulder ratio comparison tells much since Gwyneth Paltrow has a relatively wide ratio, but her shoulders still appear quite narrow due to the ratio of her width to height. Jessica Simpson's ratios look close to Gwyneth's but if you see them side-by-side you'll see their figures look nothing alike. You could visually minimize the appearance of wide shoulders by just wearing high heels to look taller.
As for the OP, I don't think your shoulders are unduly wide. Lots of women (both TG and otherwise) have dealt with similar figure issues and managed to look just great. One thing I've learned from my celebrity watching is that you can greatly improve most any figure issue with careful fashion selection. Don't worry about this. Do what you can with it and enjoy life.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: barbie on June 28, 2015, 04:16:14 PM
Post by: barbie on June 28, 2015, 04:16:14 PM
Quote from: Lyric on June 28, 2015, 02:53:11 PM
Who........ Waist-to-Shoulder...Hip-to-Shoulder...Waist-to-Hip
Me .72 .87 .88
Kelly Ripa .73 .82 .89
Jessica Simpson .68 .87 .79
Gwyneth Paltrow .65 .85 .76
Jennifer Aniston .68 .84 .81
Oh. Thanks for detailed comparisons. I measured further, and the approximate ratios were:
barbie~~ .58 .81 .74 (circumference ratio)
Yes. Definitely I have relatively wide shoulders compared with ordinary women here.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: Lyric on June 28, 2015, 08:07:46 PM
Post by: Lyric on June 28, 2015, 08:07:46 PM
Quote from: barbie on June 28, 2015, 04:16:14 PM
barbie~~ .58 .81 .74 (circumference ratio)
Gosh. You may have a better "onion" than Gwyneth Paltrow. Hollywood could be looking for your. However, I didn't to Kim Kardashian, but I'm sure her waist/hip ratio would put us all to shame.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: barbie on June 29, 2015, 01:50:09 PM
Post by: barbie on June 29, 2015, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: Lyric on June 28, 2015, 08:07:46 PM
Gosh. You may have a better "onion" than Gwyneth Paltrow. Hollywood could be looking for your. However, I didn't to Kim Kardashian, but I'm sure her waist/hip ratio would put us all to shame.
Yes. The hip size of Kim Kardashian is exceptionally great.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkingworldnews.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F11%2FKing-World-News-Why-THE-Obsession-With-Kim-Kardashians-Behind-2.jpg&hash=14afa4e2488268a21f7f0df8d616b347d6b5bd63)
Her waist-to-hip ratio is 26/38 inch = 0.684.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: Andre87 on June 29, 2015, 04:13:06 PM
Post by: Andre87 on June 29, 2015, 04:13:06 PM
yes,I've seen many examples of broader shoulders.Your shoulders look average to me..and HRT will solve fat redistribution.
Too bad we're not like cats or other fast running predators..evolution blessed them
"The cat's shoulder is a feat of muscle, in that the forelimb is connected to the rest of the body only by muscle. Unlike our collarbone, which connects the shoulder and breastbone, the cat's vestigial clavicle floats, anchored in place by muscle. The shoulder's freedom of movement effectively lengthens the cat's stride and enhances its range of motion."
Hence no problem with "broad shoulders" :D
..some people have this
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTI0tHE086vJP67Tad33QoeZukAP1DSVpYEXdoXCv37qPTcUzfn)
Individuals with cleidocranial dysplasia usually have underdeveloped or absent collarbones (clavicles). As a result, their shoulders are narrow and sloping, can be brought unusually close together in front of the body, and in some cases the shoulders can be made to meet in the middle of the body.
Too bad we're not like cats or other fast running predators..evolution blessed them
"The cat's shoulder is a feat of muscle, in that the forelimb is connected to the rest of the body only by muscle. Unlike our collarbone, which connects the shoulder and breastbone, the cat's vestigial clavicle floats, anchored in place by muscle. The shoulder's freedom of movement effectively lengthens the cat's stride and enhances its range of motion."
Hence no problem with "broad shoulders" :D
..some people have this
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTI0tHE086vJP67Tad33QoeZukAP1DSVpYEXdoXCv37qPTcUzfn)
Individuals with cleidocranial dysplasia usually have underdeveloped or absent collarbones (clavicles). As a result, their shoulders are narrow and sloping, can be brought unusually close together in front of the body, and in some cases the shoulders can be made to meet in the middle of the body.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: Lyric on July 04, 2015, 09:51:11 AM
Post by: Lyric on July 04, 2015, 09:51:11 AM
It's funny-- back in the 1980s it was actually fashionable for women to appear to have prominent shoulders. High fashion clothes almost always included shoulder pads. That time is past, but I don't think shoulder width is a very bothersome issue with femininity. I've seen a lot of shoulder women who look quite hot. And you can always de-emphasize you shoulders by wearing vertical lines and darker tones toward the top.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi881.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac12%2Fjudyl817%2FIMG_2403.jpg&hash=ae06d605927acc4dc5e0d01f479c404661b63b8b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi881.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac12%2Fjudyl817%2FIMG_2403.jpg&hash=ae06d605927acc4dc5e0d01f479c404661b63b8b)
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a more masculine body amd broader shoulders than mine?
Post by: Dena on July 05, 2015, 11:11:11 AM
Post by: Dena on July 05, 2015, 11:11:11 AM
Quote from: Lyric on July 04, 2015, 09:51:11 AMYou are right about the fashion and every time I got something with pads in it the first thing I did was to take them out. I still nicely filled the garment out without pads. Mostly the style was favored by women with very weak shoulders and my hair dresser upon learning about my pad removal ask me to save the pads for her.
It's funny-- back in the 1980s it was actually fashionable for women to appear to have prominent shoulders. High fashion clothes almost always included shoulder pads. That time is past, but I don't think shoulder width is a very bothersome issue with femininity. I've seen a lot of shoulder women who look quite hot. And you can always de-emphasize you shoulders by wearing vertical lines and darker tones toward the top.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi881.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac12%2Fjudyl817%2FIMG_2403.jpg&hash=ae06d605927acc4dc5e0d01f479c404661b63b8b)