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Title: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Jake25 on June 19, 2015, 08:05:00 PM
Do you think you were your preferred gender in a previous life? If you don't mind sharing, what was your life like in your previous incarnation?
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: JenAco on June 19, 2015, 09:44:31 PM
I think so, I always get flashes of me wearing a fancy dress in what seems like the not too distant past..  Maybe 1700s or 1800s England? Some flashes are of me riding in a carriage.  I have not had any specific things happen, just like a picture popping into my head of a situation.   Perhaps im crazy, or perhaps its true...   It could just be my desire manifesting in a vivid imagination or perhaps its real.   If you are asking it must mean you have similar memories?  Now its your turn to share. 
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Martine A. on June 20, 2015, 05:24:06 PM
I partly believe in reincarnation & karma.
Being transsexual would be either a 'lesson' a soul had chosen to learn, or a punishment, right?
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Jake25 on June 21, 2015, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: michellemartine on June 20, 2015, 05:24:06 PM
I partly believe in reincarnation & karma.
Being transsexual would be either a 'lesson' a soul had chosen to learn, or a punishment, right?

I thought it was so I could see things from a woman's perspective. It could also be a mistake All I see is that I've got a conflict with the body not matching the interior male brain and soul.
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Sammy on June 21, 2015, 12:15:23 PM
I suspect that I was quite efficient as a guy, but was not very nice to other people and probably had little to no respect towards women. So I am leaning towards "punishment" theory.
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Martine A. on June 21, 2015, 12:26:51 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 21, 2015, 12:15:23 PM
I suspect that I was quite efficient as a guy, but was not very nice to other people and probably had little to no respect towards women. So I am leaning towards "punishment" theory.
An other way to get there is as a woman who took her own life because she wanted to be a man for power and status.

Yeah, I've got both, but am doomed to imprisonment in my own body.
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Evolving Beauty on June 21, 2015, 04:31:55 PM
Once I went to see a psychic and she told me something shocking about why people become Gay and Trans and she explained to me why I became trans. I'd rather tell you in private to avoid offending people here. It's hilarious but makes so much sense at the same time. Check your inbox.
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: barbie on June 21, 2015, 06:14:32 PM
I guess I was once a woman in my past lives, but hated it because women have suffered and been oppressed in any society in the world. I probably strongly wished to be born man. At present, I am nearly free from all shackles women typically carry in their life, such as period, pregnancy, insecurity, cooking and cleaning, and all other stuffs. Nevertheless I can enjoy a part of women's life. My feminine body figures is probably a birth mark of reincarnation.

barbie~~
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Sammy on June 22, 2015, 01:42:36 AM
Quote from: Evolving Beauty on June 21, 2015, 04:31:55 PM
Once I went to see a psychic and she told me something shocking about why people become Gay and Trans and she explained to me why I became trans. I'd rather tell you in private to avoid offending people here. It's hilarious but makes so much sense at the same time. Check your inbox.

I would love to hear that too!
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Evolving Beauty on June 22, 2015, 04:06:56 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 22, 2015, 01:42:36 AM
I would love to hear that too!

Well to cut down short. Let's say she told me that trans people were not fidel with their partners, made many men suffer and was indulging in 'illegal activities' of 'abusing of their bodies' and as a punishment of karma they need to reincarnate to pay back their 'bad debts'. Anyways this is what she told me. The reality is only a very small percentage of trans women in the world have a decent job and decent lifestyle while the vast majority fall into that lifestyle by force of circumstances.
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Lady Smith on June 22, 2015, 04:10:26 AM
Edwardian lady who died on the Titanic, - or so I've been told.
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Colin64 on June 25, 2015, 05:35:05 PM
Definitely!  I've always felt that this was my first go 'round with a female body, and frankly, I suck at it.  LOL!


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Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: DriftingCrow on July 15, 2015, 08:10:47 PM
Yes, I believe in reincarnation, but highly doubt I was a human being much of my soul's journey.  In Sikhism, it's believed that your soul must journey through 8,400,000 lives before your soul can enter a human body.  I could've been a human before, but wouldn't be surprised if this was the 1st time I made it to human form.  So, I don't put much into whether or not I was a man or a woman or some other gender, or the male, intersex, or female sex, in a previous life.  Souls are genderless, and I suppose I am trans because my soul remembered that it wasn't inherently "man" or "woman" like western society tries to box you into.



Another thing: I don't like the theory some people put out that being trans could be a punishment by God or through any sort of karma system.  That form of thinking, I think, is so completely based on the line of thinking that comes from what the white, Christian-based, colonists taught the world to think --- to think that being transgender is a bad thing or a difficulty.  In some other cultures, being transgender isn't seen as a bad or unusual thing, it's seen as normal and even celebrated, some see it as a gift from the Creator.  The spiritual world doesn't revolve around what white, Western thinking believes is true.  Everything in our lives could be either a gift or a punishment, but being trans isn't automatically a punishment just because white, Western society taught you to believe it is. 

Ultimately, whether it's a punishment or not doesn't matter to me.  At this moment, I've been lucky enough to have come into human form, and it's time to make the best of it now rather than harping on what may or may not have been the past. 
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: barbie on July 15, 2015, 08:57:12 PM
Interesting.
Yes. It would be closer to teaching rather than punishment.

barbie~~

Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Kellam on July 15, 2015, 09:20:16 PM
I don't put my experience of the divine into boxes but nor do I dismiss possibilities. I personally like the notion of being trans as a special challenge offered to certain souls. People have always told me I was an old soul. I know that if I were given a choice I would gladly return to earth and humanity again and again. If my life is eternal I would expect it to be like this go round. Constantly seeking the best in me and soaking in the majesty of existing. Change is eternal and stasis is death.
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: phoenix633 on July 29, 2015, 02:46:38 PM
I have been told by some psychics and channelers that I am also an old soul and that my soul has almost always been born in a male body. That this was only my second time being born in a female body and the last time I was born in a female body I had gender issues that I did not confront and also have when born in a male body so this is the exact reason I came into this life. It makes me wonder, are our souls male and female and do most souls usually just stick with the same gender or mix it up. It's fun to think about and I definitely like to think that I will get the cis gender experience again. I used to think man I must have been a real jerk to trans people in the past to end up like this but I think that is just a negative way to look at it. There is a lot of beauty in this life. Getting to see how society treats both genders and really know who I am. Think about how many people go through life without digging deep and getting to know themselves. I know who I am not and I know for sure who I am and get to be an example of someone who is really true to themselves. It is something that a lot of people can be jerks about but a lot of people also really respect trans people from being true to themselves. It comforts me to know that my soul has lived many lives in a cis gendered male body so it a way I am just experiencing something new. When I get down about what I don't have, I just think well I've experienced that many times and now it's time to experience something new and hopefully I'll get that experience again. I think this is a great learning lesson. I know since accepting this about myself and moving forward with things that I am a much more empathetic person and find it easier to relate to people struggling with things out of there control. I don't know if reincarnation is real but I believe in it because it helps me to think I will have a cis gendered experience again and have before.
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: barbie on July 30, 2015, 02:18:05 AM
Quote from: phoenix633 on July 29, 2015, 02:46:38 PM
I have been told by some psychics and channelers that I am also an old soul and that my soul has almost always been born in a male body. That this was only my second time being born in a female body and the last time I was born in a female body I had gender issues that I did not confront and also have when born in a male body so this is the exact reason I came into this life. It makes me wonder, are our souls male and female and do most souls usually just stick with the same gender or mix it up. It's fun to think about and I definitely like to think that I will get the cis gender experience again. I used to think man I must have been a real jerk to trans people in the past to end up like this but I think that is just a negative way to look at it. There is a lot of beauty in this life. Getting to see how society treats both genders and really know who I am. Think about how many people go through life without digging deep and getting to know themselves. I know who I am not and I know for sure who I am and get to be an example of someone who is really true to themselves. It is something that a lot of people can be jerks about but a lot of people also really respect trans people from being true to themselves. It comforts me to know that my soul has lived many lives in a cis gendered male body so it a way I am just experiencing something new. When I get down about what I don't have, I just think well I've experienced that many times and now it's time to experience something new and hopefully I'll get that experience again. I think this is a great learning lesson. I know since accepting this about myself and moving forward with things that I am a much more empathetic person and find it easier to relate to people struggling with things out of there control. I don't know if reincarnation is real but I believe in it because it helps me to think I will have a cis gendered experience again and have before.

Yes. You are very positive and optimistic. I also vaguely believe reincarnation, but have not yet met any psychic or channeler. It would be very interesting to listen from them.

barbie~~
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Rose City Rose on September 14, 2015, 04:56:22 AM
I don't think I had been female since about the first half of the 18th century.  What followed was several very strife-filled lives as a man.  First there was a life when I was transported to the American colonies from England for some minor crime, then a life where I had a checkered past and took to sailing, then a life when I was an orphan at 14 and died in the trenches of WWI, and possibly a life as a struggling, drug-addicted writer in California in the mid-20th century.

So yeah... considering my luck as a man, my gender transition marks the end of a very, very long losing streak. :laugh:
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Northern Jane on September 14, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
All of the other 'past lives' that I felt any connection to were all female.  My concern with  SRS/transition was that maybe I was supposed to live this life as male - in which case I failed!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Evolving Beauty on September 15, 2015, 04:33:16 AM
Quote from: phoenix633 on July 29, 2015, 02:46:38 PM
I have been told by some psychics and channelers that I am also an old soul and that my soul has almost always been born in a male body. That this was only my second time being born in a female body and the last time I was born in a female body I had gender issues that I did not confront and also have when born in a male body so this is the exact reason I came into this life. It makes me wonder, are our souls male and female and do most souls usually just stick with the same gender or mix it up. It's fun to think about and I definitely like to think that I will get the cis gender experience again. I used to think man I must have been a real jerk to trans people in the past to end up like this but I think that is just a negative way to look at it. There is a lot of beauty in this life. Getting to see how society treats both genders and really know who I am. Think about how many people go through life without digging deep and getting to know themselves. I know who I am not and I know for sure who I am and get to be an example of someone who is really true to themselves. It is something that a lot of people can be jerks about but a lot of people also really respect trans people from being true to themselves. It comforts me to know that my soul has lived many lives in a cis gendered male body so it a way I am just experiencing something new. When I get down about what I don't have, I just think well I've experienced that many times and now it's time to experience something new and hopefully I'll get that experience again. I think this is a great learning lesson. I know since accepting this about myself and moving forward with things that I am a much more empathetic person and find it easier to relate to people struggling with things out of there control. I don't know if reincarnation is real but I believe in it because it helps me to think I will have a cis gendered experience again and have before.

Soul is itself is sexless but they follow patterns. Male souls follow pattern of 2 times male bodies and 1 time female and vice versa.
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Laura_7 on September 15, 2015, 07:52:49 AM
Quote from: Evolving Beauty on September 15, 2015, 04:33:16 AM
Soul is itself is sexless but they follow patterns. Male souls follow pattern of 2 times male bodies and 1 time female and vice versa.
There are souls which are polarized... more leaning towards one pole... yet still having an understanding of the other pole...
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Paige on September 15, 2015, 08:21:26 AM
Interesting you bring this up.  I've often thought, if I believed in reincarnation, that I could have struggled as a female in a past life and believed the grass was greener on the other side.  I chose to be a male not realizing how ingrained my femininity was and how much of a struggle it would be to be male.

Paige :)
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: Swayallday on September 15, 2015, 10:04:30 AM
Quote from: Jake25 on June 19, 2015, 08:05:00 PM
Do you think you were your preferred gender in a previous life? If you don't mind sharing, what was your life like in your previous incarnation?

I think I did something really bad in my past life and this is my punishment.

A friends grandma though: if you accept this life and live it to the fullest, your next will be forgiven.
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: TheMissingM on September 17, 2015, 11:03:09 PM
I'm open to the thought of it but never really thought so much on it, when I came out to a close friend of mine he responded to me like this. Not just because of the fact I am transgender but because my life has been one hell of a rock climb.. (Much like others here!)

"You must of really did something bad in your previous life to end up with such wretched luck. I can never imagine or understand what it's like to be transgendered much less go through everything you have. For such a good person to be constantly faced with horrible luck, it's saddening how karma will chase you in your next lives even."
Title: Re: Reincarnation and Transgender
Post by: LiliFee on December 17, 2016, 02:32:28 PM
Time to dig up an older topic:

Personally, I do believe in reincarnation. Perhaps it's because when the soul doesn't fit the body, the difference between the two can more easily be felt. For me, the fact that I am my soul and that this body is a temporary 'place to learn' has been an innate knowledge for most of my life. In the words of Alan Watts:

"Before you were born there was this same nothing-at-all-forever. And yet... you happened. And if you happened once, you can happen again."

Whether or not being born as a transgendered individual is a punishment or a lesson, this is a hard one to answer. When it is true that each of us reincarnates, this entails some things... Imagine that we could remember our previous lives. How differently would we have lived this life? Would we have been able to appreciate it in its true sense? What if we need to forget about old traumatizing or bad experiences, so we can have a fresh start this time around?

When given the choice, I would actually also choose to forget most things. Perhaps I've not been exceptionally kind a previous life to many people, and I came here to change that. Would my knowledge of being a bitch earlier on have influenced my self-respect in this life? Definitely, for me at least.

When I was even a little girl, I had this solid awareness that I had CHOSEN to be here, to be born this way and to these parents. Many of the lessons I've learned in the last 30 years have revolved around being less manipulative, more open and to empathize more with the people around me. As a little child, I remember I was very nasty and manipulative, this has gradually gotten better as I learned some humbling lessons.

Like: not being that popular girl I craved (and perhaps know) to be, what it was like to be at the bottom of the group hierarchy. What it meant to be a misfit, and how to learn to deal with my solitude and my knowledge of being different from the other kids around me.

To call this karma would be one way to go... I personally prefer the take that I needed those lessons in order to grow as a person/soul. Many a time when I ponder on what I would have been like were I born a cis-girl, I end up realizing I probably wouldn't have been the nicest of people.

So yeah. Here I am now, and I have definitely grown to be a different person. Maybe I chose this life in order to learn these things and give myself a way forward. That's not punishment at all. That's simply loving yourself and giving yourself another chance.

How do you all see this?