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Hi everyone, I'm 17 and I will start my HRT next month. My face and the size of my body doesn't look masculine but I have some features that are not passable for a woman. I have skinny arms and my veins become very prominent or bludging when the weather is hot, this is really a serious problem because I never saw girls have so  many prominent veins sticking out of their arms, there really ugly and very masculine. My another concern is my legs,  my calf muscle is kindda big (like many guys do), well I've rarely seen woman having them and its too masculine. My question is with the effect of hormones will these features turn out to be passable as a woman without surgery?

(apologies for my bad english)

Quote from: puffy on September 07, 2007, 02:05:52 PM
Hi everyone, I'm 17 and I will start my HRT next month. My face and the size of my body doesn't look masculine but I have some features that are not passable for a woman. I have skinny arms and my veins become very prominent or bludging when the weather is hot, this is really a serious problem because I never saw girls have so  many prominent veins sticking out of their arms, there really ugly and very masculine. My another concern is my legs,  my calf muscle is kindda big (like many guys do), well I've rarely seen woman having them and its too masculine. My question is with the effect of hormones will these features turn out to be passable as a woman without surgery?

(apologies for my bad english)

Not in my own experience.......I have been on hormones for 7 years and my legs are very thin, especially the lower part of my legs where the shape of the bones are clearly visable. Also the upper part of my legs are thin and they look very male. Female legs are much fatter in general , especially towards the hips. I have no hips or butt. Hormones haven't changed my fat distribution in any way at all.

I dont think you need to worry.

Big calf muscles or some veiny arms aren't really anything to worry about as far as the world seeing you as a woman goes. How many times have you been walking down the street, seen a girl with larger-than-normal calf muscles and decided "OMG! She's a ->-bleeped-<-?" She probably just plays soccer or rides her bike a lot. And veins? That is like the last thing people are going to look for.

All I can say is, if you are a girl, just be confident in that fact, don't give a crap about what you think other people are thinking about you. It doesnt make you any less of a girl. And really, they probably aren't thinking that anyway, they are probably just checking you out or thinking that they like your top or something or wondering where you bought your shoes or something. Show the world a girl, they usually see a girl. Pretty simple for the most part.

Just don't let it get to you. Be confident with who you are, it means a lot more than slightly large calf muscles or a few arm-veins. It shines through a lot more than you would expect.

Megan

Quote from: MeganRose on September 08, 2007, 06:40:52 AM
I dont think you need to worry.

Big calf muscles or some veiny arms aren't really anything to worry about as far as the world seeing you as a woman goes. How many times have you been walking down the street, seen a girl with larger-than-normal calf muscles and decided "OMG! She's a ->-bleeped-<-?" She probably just plays soccer or rides her bike a lot. And veins? That is like the last thing people are going to look for.

Megan

Most genetic girls do have large calf muscles, I'd be more likely to think a person is a ->-bleeped-<- if they have skinny boney legs like me!

"Transitioning is a miracle."  I heard that many times before I began my transition and I believed it was true for everyone else but me.  There was no way I'd ever pass so any thought of transitioning had to be banished from my mind.

Well, I was wrong!  I pass most of the time now.  Yes, transitioning is a miracle.

Instead of focusing on those things that stand out to you (and you are probably the only one who notices these things) focus on the fact you are starting your transition at such a yound age.  You will have remarkably better results than someone who starts at 40 or 50 years of age.  My guess is by the time you are 25 the HRT alone will have created a very female body.  Enjoy the ride!

Julie

Quote from: Julie Marie on September 08, 2007, 07:13:47 AM
"Transitioning is a miracle."  I heard that many times before I began my transition and I believed it was true for everyone else but me.  There was no way I'd ever pass so any thought of transitioning had to be banished from my mind.

Well, I was wrong!  I pass most of the time now.  Yes, transitioning is a miracle.

Instead of focusing on those things that stand out to you (and you are probably the only one who notices these things) focus on the fact you are starting your transition at such a yound age.  You will have remarkably better results than someone who starts at 40 or 50 years of age.  My guess is by the time you are 25 the HRT alone will have created a very female body.  Enjoy the ride!

Julie

Julie, Who are you replying to? it's not a miricle to me, it's jolly hard work, with little results!

I agree that someone of 17 stands a better chance and the enconomics and protocols of getting medical help are better these days than in my day.

I started in my mid to late teens. Take it one day at a time. If you don't you will drive your self nuts. Changes will occure. They are in fact a miracle.
Everyone respondes differently to HRT. Most that start at a young age are relativly happy with the results. Try to be positive and move forward.
Exersise will help shape your body also. Start your HRT and see where you have to work on your body to get the shape you want.

Deb

I spent quite a number of years on the pitch and because of that I have very well defined thighs, calves, and also broad shoulders. I thought all would work against me because they made me too masculine. However, men and women love my legs and especially take note of my calf muscles. If I go to a party with a skirt on, I will be felt up. LOL

The shoulders... women tell me how lucky I am to have wide shoulders. Easier to carry a purse and all.

As far as lower body is concerned, I recently just stopped playing sports, although since my early teens, I have received compliments on my legs, even from females  ;D

I don't think there's anything you can do about veins though.

I do know that personaly, the veins in my hands are far less prominent...  and I know lots of girls with large claf muscles...

Hrt effects everyone diffrently... but the younger you are, generaly, the better the results  :)

I personally don't have any problems with viens but my legs are thin.....the lower part of my legs, the bones show quite easily and they look bumpy and un attractive. The upper part of my legs are also thin with very little fat distribution. My legs do look male which is why I won't wear a skirt anymore..

Honestly, if you are starting hormones at 17, you have a lot of advantage to someone like myself who started at 28.  Muscles and skin will be affected by the hormones over time, and I have found that most trans-women have a reduction in muscle mass and softer skin after even a short time on hormones.  I was convinced i wouldn't pass when I started, and now a year later I would have a lot of trouble passing for male.  I have seen many cases where I have thought that someone pre-transition might have problems, only to see them be accepted completely as female later.  Starting young is a big advantage.

A friend of mine told me that a lot passing is from the neck up.  Some things like excessive height and broad shoulders can be a hinderance, and cause problems, but I have not seen anyone outed for having muscular legs.  (if fact , some of the GG's I know would have a lot to worry about if that were true.)

At 17, those hormones are going to do a heck of a lot to you, and I would be surprised (shocked really) if you didn't pass completely after a year on hormones (or less).

keep educating yourself, and asking questions. It's god to hear that you discovered yourself so young.

Hugs

Mila