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Title: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: evenstar on July 19, 2015, 04:19:45 AM
Post by: evenstar on July 19, 2015, 04:19:45 AM
Hello everybody,
I just wanted to give a short update on my voice surgery last year. Here are some audio files for comparison:
Pre-Op:
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- physiological male voice (pre HRT/full time), average pitch 120Hz: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1lpY3EXGzkv (german)
- male voice (after 2 years of HRT/full time), average pitch 177Hz: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1iNMbzo1yFs
- trained female voice (after 2 years of HRT/full time), average pitch 210Hz: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0IJVHX0KpXy
Post-Op:
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- 1 month after glottoplasty, average pitch 212Hz: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0nUmR75aK0D
- my voice as it is today (1 year after glottoplasty): http://vocaroo.com/i/s1hoBQjcNsL0
I am pretty happy with my result. I think the difference between my old trained voice and my post op voice is subtle. It takes much less effort to produce a female sounding voice though. The downside is that there are still situations when I perceive my voice as androgynous, which I hoped wouldn't happen after surgery.
What do you think?
I just wanted to give a short update on my voice surgery last year. Here are some audio files for comparison:
Pre-Op:
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- physiological male voice (pre HRT/full time), average pitch 120Hz: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1lpY3EXGzkv (german)
- male voice (after 2 years of HRT/full time), average pitch 177Hz: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1iNMbzo1yFs
- trained female voice (after 2 years of HRT/full time), average pitch 210Hz: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0IJVHX0KpXy
Post-Op:
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- 1 month after glottoplasty, average pitch 212Hz: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0nUmR75aK0D
- my voice as it is today (1 year after glottoplasty): http://vocaroo.com/i/s1hoBQjcNsL0
I am pretty happy with my result. I think the difference between my old trained voice and my post op voice is subtle. It takes much less effort to produce a female sounding voice though. The downside is that there are still situations when I perceive my voice as androgynous, which I hoped wouldn't happen after surgery.
What do you think?
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: alena on July 19, 2015, 07:17:55 AM
Post by: alena on July 19, 2015, 07:17:55 AM
Congrats evenstar, I think both your post-op recordings sound female!
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: Promethea on July 19, 2015, 08:37:48 AM
Post by: Promethea on July 19, 2015, 08:37:48 AM
You sound great! Not androgynous at all. Remember that you hear your voice resounding through the bones in your head, unlike other people, so what you hear is different than what other people hear.
And I'm amazed by the difference with how your voice was at first. It gives me hopes! Thank you for sharing this :)
And I'm amazed by the difference with how your voice was at first. It gives me hopes! Thank you for sharing this :)
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: Dena on July 19, 2015, 09:55:44 AM
Post by: Dena on July 19, 2015, 09:55:44 AM
First the voice is very good. There is a mix between the high pitches and the warmth of the lower pitches. This voice would never be gendered male and is a very attractive female voice. The work you put into therapy and the surgery have resulted in a voice you should be proud of.
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: Swayallday on July 19, 2015, 10:11:13 AM
Post by: Swayallday on July 19, 2015, 10:11:13 AM
Thank you for sharing :-)
Wow :D I think it sounds a tad softer after surgery but it was very feminine to begin with beforehand.
Impressive!
Wow :D I think it sounds a tad softer after surgery but it was very feminine to begin with beforehand.
Impressive!
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: kwala on July 19, 2015, 02:59:31 PM
Post by: kwala on July 19, 2015, 02:59:31 PM
Thanks so much for sharing and posting audio clips. I think your voice sounds remarkable :) Your trained voice was quite good before, but now it seems like you are attaining that pitch level with total ease and the timbre sounds bright and totally feminine to me, not androgynous in the slightest. Congrats!
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: gentlebreeze on July 19, 2015, 03:07:02 PM
Post by: gentlebreeze on July 19, 2015, 03:07:02 PM
That's a good result. How much speech therapy did you have after surgery.
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: evenstar on July 20, 2015, 01:16:56 AM
Post by: evenstar on July 20, 2015, 01:16:56 AM
Thank you for your comments! Yes, I guess I should be happy with my voice - I'm just generally overcritical. My gender never gets questioned on the phone or in person. I even started to take singing lessons. I am travelling to Belgium for a follow-up exam with Prof Remacle in August and I am very curious how everything looks inside my throat now...
I did a lot of voice training (about 2 years) by myself before working with a speech therapist. I mostly used "Finding Your Female Voice" by Andrea James. After that, I had about 15-20 hours with a speech therapist over the course of one and a half years. I did not have any speech therapy after surgery so far.
Quote from: gentlebreeze on July 19, 2015, 03:07:02 PM
That's a good result. How much speech therapy did you have after surgery.
I did a lot of voice training (about 2 years) by myself before working with a speech therapist. I mostly used "Finding Your Female Voice" by Andrea James. After that, I had about 15-20 hours with a speech therapist over the course of one and a half years. I did not have any speech therapy after surgery so far.
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: gentlebreeze on July 20, 2015, 05:43:31 AM
Post by: gentlebreeze on July 20, 2015, 05:43:31 AM
Quote from: evenstar on July 20, 2015, 01:16:56 AMDid you not have any ENT examinations during the year following surgery? The voice is very good considering that you had no SLT after surgery. Great to hear some feedback 1 year on after surgery. :)
Thank you for your comments! Yes, I guess I should be happy with my voice - I'm just generally overcritical. My gender never gets questioned on the phone or in person. I even started to take singing lessons. I am travelling to Belgium for a follow-up exam with Prof Remacle in August and I am very curious how everything looks inside my throat now...
I did a lot of voice training (about 2 years) by myself before working with a speech therapist. I mostly used "Finding Your Female Voice" by Andrea James. After that, I had about 15-20 hours with a speech therapist over the course of one and a half years. I did not have any speech therapy after surgery so far.
How many months did the hoarsness last for, and at what point did you regain "full strength" with your voice?
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: evenstar on July 26, 2015, 02:43:25 PM
Post by: evenstar on July 26, 2015, 02:43:25 PM
Quote from: gentlebreeze on July 20, 2015, 05:43:31 AM
How many months did the hoarsness last for, and at what point did you regain "full strength" with your voice?
Most of the hoarseness was gone after about two months, and I'd say it took another two or three till I regained full strength. It's a little difficult to tell exactly because I also had some problems with reflux recently and I think that slowed down the healing process.
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: anjaq on July 26, 2015, 04:57:14 PM
Post by: anjaq on July 26, 2015, 04:57:14 PM
Oh - Well, I am at 5 months post op now and still have significant hoarseness or breathiness - and I am far from having full strength :( - I hope that this is not a bad sign. I was told it often takes 6-9 months and officially its 12 months even. Jennygirl reported somewhere she still gained power and clarity in the voice after the 12 month mark, so I still do have hope ;)
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: Lynne on July 26, 2015, 05:07:38 PM
Post by: Lynne on July 26, 2015, 05:07:38 PM
Thank you for sharing your results and experiences Evenstar, you had a great trained voice to begin with but the surgery added that little extra that makes it even better. As an EU citizen Belgium seems to be a better option for me and seeing great results from Prof. Remacle makes me hopeful that one day I can get my voice improved for a price that I can afford.
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 06:04:21 AM
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 06:04:21 AM
Great results Evenstar I've had the glottoplasty with prof Remacle 3 months ago
I wonder if anyone would be interested to hear my voice now
I wonder if anyone would be interested to hear my voice now
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: kwala on August 26, 2015, 10:25:43 AM
Post by: kwala on August 26, 2015, 10:25:43 AM
Quote from: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 06:04:21 AMDefinitely!
Great results Evenstar I've had the glottoplasty with prof Remacle 3 months ago
I wonder if anyone would be interested to hear my voice now
Title: Re: One year after voice surgery with Prof. Remacle in Belgium - audio examples
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 10:35:49 AM
Post by: Cristal Lecter on August 26, 2015, 10:35:49 AM
Quote from: kwala on August 26, 2015, 10:25:43 AM
Definitely!
I've posted a new thread if you want to listen