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Title: A.A. -- No 12 Step Program Here!
Post by: Allison Wunderland on July 29, 2015, 03:26:44 PM
Post by: Allison Wunderland on July 29, 2015, 03:26:44 PM
Gender satire . . .
AA -- I've attended my share of AA . . . Alcoholics Anon. As a certifiable "non-ETOH-normative" let's note here that the 12 step program is entirely too anti-secular for me, doesn't work for me. (And yet I'm not drinking myself to death!)
In case you've never been, there's a series of rituals:
Introductions go . . . "I'm [state your first name], and I'm an alcoholic."
The group goes, "Hello, [repeat the name], Welcome!
Sit in a circle, drink coffee, relate personal experiences . . . Close with the "Serenity Prayer"
"God grant me the serenity to change the things I can change,
To accept the things I cannot change,
And the wisdom to know the difference."
Let's please emphasize here that AA is a life saver for some, and I heartily applaud anyone as member for whom this program works. Ya gotta work with what works for you!
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AA -- "Ambivalent Anonymous"
"Hello, I haven't settled on a name yet, I'm still me, and I'm gender ambivalent . . . "
"Hello my friend/colleague/brother/sister . . . Welcome."
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No 12 Step, shuffle . . . Not necessarily.
Sponsors might offer brain-storming sessions about presentation, identity, the ontological metaphysics of ID.
Group discussion seems sine qua non --
I have an agenda . . . gawd knows ! ! ! But since it's not probably some universal epiphany, I'm gonna defer, listen to the discussion of others here.
We're satirical tongue-in-cheek, but also entirely serious (satire is serious discussion!) . . .
And so, let us turn the floor over to the thread . . .
Thanks, and WELCOME ! ! !
AA -- I've attended my share of AA . . . Alcoholics Anon. As a certifiable "non-ETOH-normative" let's note here that the 12 step program is entirely too anti-secular for me, doesn't work for me. (And yet I'm not drinking myself to death!)
In case you've never been, there's a series of rituals:
Introductions go . . . "I'm [state your first name], and I'm an alcoholic."
The group goes, "Hello, [repeat the name], Welcome!
Sit in a circle, drink coffee, relate personal experiences . . . Close with the "Serenity Prayer"
"God grant me the serenity to change the things I can change,
To accept the things I cannot change,
And the wisdom to know the difference."
Let's please emphasize here that AA is a life saver for some, and I heartily applaud anyone as member for whom this program works. Ya gotta work with what works for you!
------------------
AA -- "Ambivalent Anonymous"
"Hello, I haven't settled on a name yet, I'm still me, and I'm gender ambivalent . . . "
"Hello my friend/colleague/brother/sister . . . Welcome."
-----------
No 12 Step, shuffle . . . Not necessarily.
Sponsors might offer brain-storming sessions about presentation, identity, the ontological metaphysics of ID.
Group discussion seems sine qua non --
I have an agenda . . . gawd knows ! ! ! But since it's not probably some universal epiphany, I'm gonna defer, listen to the discussion of others here.
We're satirical tongue-in-cheek, but also entirely serious (satire is serious discussion!) . . .
And so, let us turn the floor over to the thread . . .
Thanks, and WELCOME ! ! !
Title: Re: A.A. -- No 12 Step Program Here!
Post by: suzifrommd on July 29, 2015, 08:30:25 PM
Post by: suzifrommd on July 29, 2015, 08:30:25 PM
Allison, I've got to confess, I have no idea what you're trying to say/ask.
I'm an atheist but I found my 12-step program not helped me get past my eating disorder, but also got me in touch with how an atheist/agnostic can be spiritual and use that spiritual power to find wisdom, strength, and peace.
It's helped me greatly with acceptance of the imperfect nature of my transition.
I'm an atheist but I found my 12-step program not helped me get past my eating disorder, but also got me in touch with how an atheist/agnostic can be spiritual and use that spiritual power to find wisdom, strength, and peace.
It's helped me greatly with acceptance of the imperfect nature of my transition.
Title: Re: A.A. -- No 12 Step Program Here!
Post by: Allison Wunderland on July 31, 2015, 03:05:26 PM
Post by: Allison Wunderland on July 31, 2015, 03:05:26 PM
I'm Buddhist . . . Atheist, but spiritual as it gets. "All things are manifestation of Buddha."
Support groups work.
Tongue in cheek, I'm proposing AA . . . andro-gyne anon . . . . AND NOT like the other AA, in some ways, but objectives like AA in other ways.
That's pretty much it . . . support group, just ironic that it might be called "A A" . . .
"Sponsors," mentors, guides, group support . . . it all works. We should organize these sorts of groups for our brothers/sisters whomever they are.
Support groups work.
Tongue in cheek, I'm proposing AA . . . andro-gyne anon . . . . AND NOT like the other AA, in some ways, but objectives like AA in other ways.
That's pretty much it . . . support group, just ironic that it might be called "A A" . . .
"Sponsors," mentors, guides, group support . . . it all works. We should organize these sorts of groups for our brothers/sisters whomever they are.