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Hi everyone ive been trying to feminize my voice for about a mouth now and seen little results. I have a low voice and been looking at youtube videos on how to bring it up but all they say is talk like mickey mouse and it will get there. one is this true and how long does it normally take. I know how to sing and was in a chamber choir (bass 2) but that was a while ago lol. Im just trying to say i can control my voice pretty well lol. Thanks for taking the time out to read my post and please respond. JA NA

Can you afford a speech therapist? If YouTube is not working for you maybe it's time to seek the help of a pro.

Quote from: iKate on August 28, 2015, 04:53:07 PM
Can you afford a speech therapist? If YouTube is not working for you maybe it's time to seek the help of a pro.

WELL thats gonna be kinda hard im in the navy and in an "A" school for my new job. So its kinda hard to do that.

You could have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,190936.msg1701516.html#msg1701516


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Quote from: Laura_7 on August 28, 2015, 05:27:06 PM
You could have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,190936.msg1701516.html#msg1701516


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Thanks

1. I spoke in the highest, squeakiest voice I could manage. I concentrated on remembering the exact position my throat was in. In practice this meant my voicebox was raised a fraction of an inch and my throat was "squeezed".

2. I would then position my throat exactly that way, but speak normally. Everything that came out of my mouth sounded female when I did that.

Have you tried lifting your trachea up to raise the pitch of your voice, while simultaneously opening your airway to feminize the resonance?  If you haven't, it may be difficult at first, but with practice you will be able to develop the muscle control it takes to master it, and then it will become second nature.  Another tip you may find helpful is to speak from your diaphragm.

Quote from: kittenpower on August 28, 2015, 06:01:24 PM
Have you tried lifting your trachea up to raise the pitch of your voice, while simultaneously opening your airway to feminize the resonance?  If you haven't, it may be difficult at first, but with practice you will be able to develop the muscle control it takes to master it, and then it will become second nature.  Another tip you may find helpful is to speak from your diaphragm.

Umm..... how do i do that lol  ??? but i do know how to project with my diaphragm though.

Quote from: suzifrommd on August 28, 2015, 05:47:19 PM
1. I spoke in the highest, squeakiest voice I could manage. I concentrated on remembering the exact position my throat was in. In practice this meant my voicebox was raised a fraction of an inch and my throat was "squeezed".

2. I would then position my throat exactly that way, but speak normally. Everything that came out of my mouth sounded female when I did that.

it kinda works for a sec, then it gets super manly man lol thanks though Ill keep practicing

Also Its been hard for me because i the school im in now i have to yell and scream alot and it like killed the upper ranges probably because im not used to taking and yelling so much cause i hate my "guy" voice

Quote from: EvaLoring on August 28, 2015, 06:09:46 PM
Umm..... how do i do that lol  ??? but i do know how to project with my diaphragm though.

In singing it would be the head/mouth voice. Put your hands where your adams apple or larynx is located and tighten the muscles above that point. You should feel the upward movement with your hand. With the muscles tight speak and you will find your voice has moved up in pitch. This will not cause vocal damage in normal speech and is the first step in the process of developing a trained voice.

All I can say is that it takes a lot of practice.

Quote from: Dena on August 28, 2015, 06:16:06 PM
In singing it would be the head/mouth voice. Put your hands where your adams apple or larynx is located and tighten the muscles above that point. You should feel the upward movement with your hand. With the muscles tight speak and you will find your voice has moved up in pitch. This will not cause vocal damage in normal speech and is the first step in the process of developing a trained voice.

Oh ok ya that does help alot more cause i can reach high notes no problem it just sounds forced and fake

Quote from: EvaLoring on August 28, 2015, 06:51:32 PM
Oh ok ya that does help alot more cause i can reach high notes no problem it just sounds forced and fake

Two problems, you aren't able to judge your own voice unless you have done a bunch of work on it so you are better off letting somebody else judge it. Second problem is you might need the falsetto which is another lesson after you get this voice down

The thing that most often make the voice sound wrong is the lack of inflection - speaking in a mono tone and not using female speech patterns. In addition, you might be forcing your voice way to high. The average female voice is middle C but the voice might drop as low as G3 and still be gendered female. It's a trade off where the lower voice has more flexibility but not as much pitch. After Surgery, my voice appears to have moved to a G#3 but it is still healing so more on that latter. Also, I love your picture.

Quote from: Dena on August 28, 2015, 06:59:08 PM
Two problems, you aren't able to judge your own voice unless you have done a bunch of work on it so you are better off letting somebody else judge it. Second problem is you might need the falsetto which is another lesson after you get this voice down

The thing that most often make the voice sound wrong is the lack of inflection - speaking in a mono tone and not using female speech patterns. In addition, you might be forcing your voice way to high. The average female voice is middle C but the voice might drop as low as G3 and still be gendered female. It's a trade off where the lower voice has more flexibility but not as much pitch. After Surgery, my voice appears to have moved to a G#3 but it is still healing so more on that latter. Also, I love your picture.

yes i your right im the only person that has heard me trying to speak because its really embarrassing and im very hard on myself. I can kinda do falsetto  because i sing alot and always loved "girl" music.And i always pretty much had female speech patterns and that was one reason i rarely ever talked. i even trained to lower my voice so i could prove to myself i was "manly" cause my normal singing and talking voice was pretty high. But now that you  mention it i think i am forcing it and the tone is off.

LOL thank you, I Just cant wait to start HRT. Hopefully i can start in January .

Pitch software is available for smart phones and your computer. Unless you are good with a keyboard and ear, you should have software to monitor your voice so you learn the range to use. If you need software, let me know what you want to run it on. I have an iPhone with PitchLab that I need to carry 24 hours a day for work so I can check and work with my voice where ever I am. If all you have is a PC, it still works but you have to make the time to work on your voice.

Quote from: Dena on August 28, 2015, 07:24:20 PM
Pitch software is available for smart phones and your computer. Unless you are good with a keyboard and ear, you should have software to monitor your voice so you learn the range to use. If you need software, let me know what you want to run it on. I have an iPhone with PitchLab that I need to carry 24 hours a day for work so I can check and work with my voice where ever I am. If all you have is a PC, it still works but you have to make the time to work on your voice.

I have a galaxy phone. thanks soooo much you've been extremely helpful

You are welcome. Galaxy is android so PitchLab should be available as well.
Feel free to ask me questions anytime.

Pitch lab on android is a guitar tuner.Not sure if you mean that Or not, "Note recogniser" constantly displays frequency's

Quote from: Serenation on August 28, 2015, 08:16:11 PM
Pitch lab on android is a guitar tuner.Not sure if you mean that Or not, "Note recogniser" constantly displays frequency's

That is correct for my iPhone as well but it works great to find the pitch of your voice.

Do you use a voice recorder to check on yourself? If you do that, then try talking in different "head voices" and find one that would suit your speech, once you find the "head voice" of choice try continuing to simulate how you accomplish that throughout the day without straining yourself. Go with that for short timed intervals until it becomes more natural to talk like that.
I've tried testing a voice recorder, and i sound like the lower female range to be honest. Luckily all my life over the phone I've been "mis gendered" as female for as long as I can remember. So I just talk as I do with that, trying every once in a while to check if I can gain a slightly higher pitch.

Kate <3