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Title: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Jessie_Heart on September 23, 2007, 03:36:22 AM
I am just courious what gender everyone is in thier dreams. I am almost always female the few exceptions being some nightmares I have had
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: nickie on September 23, 2007, 03:43:26 AM
Both. Of course, this can explained by the fact that I lived as a man for nearly 51 years.
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Jessie_Heart on September 23, 2007, 04:21:42 AM
Quote from: nickie on September 23, 2007, 03:43:26 AM
Both. Of course, this can explained by the fact that I lived as a man for nearly 51 years.

I am not doing this poll to judge anyone. I was just interested in how it turned out. if you or anyone ever sees me comming across with an attitude like I feel I am more worthy than anyone else please smack some sense into me. please trust me when I say that is not my intention at all I am just courious.
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: katia on September 23, 2007, 04:31:36 AM
in my dreams i'm what i am irl, female.
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Mia and Marq on September 23, 2007, 05:35:07 AM
Usually Marq and I switch back and forth over the course of the dream which is more how we deal with day to day life as well. Occasionally and rarely, we've both got our own bodies in the dream. In those instances though, we never leave each others side still.

We always dream together though, despite the fact that some of the dreams we have irritates the other for one reason or another. Its always fun though for us.

Mia and Marq
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Jessie_Heart on September 23, 2007, 05:40:27 AM
Quote from: Marq and Mia on September 23, 2007, 05:35:07 AM
Usually Marq and I switch back and forth over the course of the dream which is more how we deal with day to day life as well. Occasionally and rarely, we've both got our own bodies in the dream. In those instances though, we never leave each others side still.

We always dream together though, despite the fact that some of the dreams we have irritates the other for one reason or another. Its always fun though for us.

Mia and Marq

I have to admit in a way I am jelous of you. you have your own best friend and playmate right there with you at all times I think that is very neat!!
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Fer on September 23, 2007, 06:11:41 AM
Quote from: Katia on September 23, 2007, 04:31:36 AM
in my dreams i'm what i am irl, female.

Ditto but pre-transition, I was genderless in my dreams. :)
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Jessie_Heart on September 23, 2007, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: Fer on September 23, 2007, 06:11:41 AM
Quote from: Katia on September 23, 2007, 04:31:36 AM
in my dreams i'm what i am irl, female.

Ditto but pre-transition, I was genderless in my dreams. :)

I guess I should have added the option of genderless, anyone who was excluded from this because I did not I apoligize it wasn't intentional it was true ignorance as I was truley unaware of the situation but if nothing else I am glad I started this poll because it has been informative and has helped me learn something!
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: tinkerbell on September 23, 2007, 03:40:23 PM
Always female.  I have never been "male" in my dreams, even prior to transition, I was female in almost all my dreams; other times I was not aware of any gender so I'm assuming that I had no gender. ???

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: NickSister on September 23, 2007, 03:47:25 PM
I am usually me as I am now. So I guess I am always my own gender.

As for my physical sex, not sure. Mostly just as I am (genetic male), occasionaly I will dream of myself with a womans body. Usually I don't notice what body I have, I'm just me.
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Kate on September 23, 2007, 06:34:20 PM
I can't really pick one of those options anymore. I'm not really conscious of my sex in my dreams these days... I'm just Kate.

In the past, I've dreamt myself as a male, a feminized male, and also as a female, but that sometimes came with a "cool! I'm really female!" feeling.

Now I kinda got what I always wanted: to not be self-conscious of my sex. I'm just ME ;)

(I say "sex" and not "gender" because I mean my physical traits, not my emotional/mental ones)

~Kate~
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Jeannette on September 23, 2007, 11:32:21 PM
Quote from: Fer on September 23, 2007, 06:11:41 AM
Quote from: Katia on September 23, 2007, 04:31:36 AM
in my dreams i'm what i am irl, female.

Ditto but pre-transition, I was genderless in my dreams. :)

Mostly female, sometimes genderless.  One time I dreamed I had both a penis & a vagina.  I was horrified in my dream.
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Mia and Marq on September 24, 2007, 02:45:50 AM
I used to have dreams like that too with the having both genitals. Disturbing really but the result of Mia and Marq trying to both be covered physically maybe. Luckily it was only a couple isolated incidents...

M&M
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Christo on September 24, 2007, 02:51:19 AM
Male all da time. 
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Berliegh on September 24, 2007, 07:00:30 AM
much to my anoyance it's 50 / 50........why I don't know?.......I was always more female when I was younger in dreams and I can't explain that...
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Jessie_Heart on September 24, 2007, 09:35:44 AM
Quote from: Berliegh on September 24, 2007, 07:00:30 AM
much to my anoyance it's 50 / 50........why I don't know?.......I was always more female when I was younger in dreams and I can't explain that...

I am sure that no matter how hard we try not to let it out side attitudes and predudices influnce alot of our dreams so maybe some of the predjudices have some affect on this at times. and maybe alot of our fears about that being how people sees us plays into it. there is ignorance everywhere and even though we fight it with our conscience mind maybe some small part of it soaks into our subconscience and affects us. just a theory please feel free to dismiss it as I just haven't had enough coffee this morning!
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Mia and Marq on September 25, 2007, 03:20:22 AM
I think people are quick to jump to conclusions on what it means to have one gender or another. In most cases you shouldn't even have a gender unless its relevant to the dream. Your subconcious mind just doesn't have to take that unnecessary step of making a gender obvious again unless its on your mind. Its actually abnormal to consistantly be aware of what gender you are over the course of many dreams. You are you and thats all that matters.

M&M
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Jessie_Heart on September 25, 2007, 02:14:02 PM
Quote from: Marq and Mia on September 25, 2007, 03:20:22 AM
I think people are quick to jump to conclusions on what it means to have one gender or another. In most cases you shouldn't even have a gender unless its relevant to the dream. Your subconcious mind just doesn't have to take that unnecessary step of making a gender obvious again unless its on your mind. Its actually abnormal to consistantly be aware of what gender you are over the course of many dreams. You are you and thats all that matters.

M&M

really? this is the type of information I was hopeing for just to know how unusaul and why it seperates it between my regular dreams and nightmares. if anyone has any theories please share them!
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Lisbeth on September 25, 2007, 02:37:36 PM
It took most of ten years for my dreams to transition to my new gender.
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: seldom on September 25, 2007, 02:53:02 PM
Female since I could remember (age 4) when I was human or human like (Fairy).  I don't count the ones where I was something like a tree or flower in my dreams.  I really cannot explain it, as I was not fully conscious of my gender identity until I was 11.  I told no one. 
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: mikke on September 25, 2007, 04:33:20 PM
I said mostly true gender- usually I'm a guy in my dreams, though sometimes I have no gender (or it isn't easily discernible) and sometimes I'm in the body I currently have which is an androgynous mix (male top, girl bottom). The dreams with androgyny tend to lead to someone "outing" me in which I'm vehemently denying being a girl, but still know I've got girl bits.

I have really complex dreams.
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Ms Bev on September 25, 2007, 11:00:20 PM
I've been female in all my dreams lately.  I think it shall stay that way.  An odd note about dreams prior transition:  I have dreamed periodically since childhood, that my penis has inexplicably come off, and can remember thinking, "this should hurt", but it never did, and thought that I should be sad for its loss, but never, ever was.
Strange things, dreams......

Bev
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Mia and Marq on September 26, 2007, 02:50:10 AM
I know some people don't believe in the symbolism that is represented in dreams but I find it very fascinating. Listenting to some of your basic dream themes, my head fills of thoughts about what each element could represent. Usually though what each element seems to obviously represent is not usually accurate.

In Bev's case, loosing a body part in a dream and experiencing no pain physically and no regret mentally depends primarily upon what the penis represents to her. Lets assume for a second that it represented the stereotypes that people associate with being male. Having it discarded as so, her subconcious could have been saying "I need to shed the stereotypes of what is expected of me" and find out that its not actually that hard to do and that you won't regret it either or miss the standards being impeded upon you. Of course Bev would have to consider what at the time it meant as a body part or what it represented and just apply the same ideas to what it meant.

If you aren't represented as a person in a dream and you don't know anyone in the dreams either, sometimes you're just having an entertainment dream because your subconcious mind wants to tell a story. So that being said, not all dreams have messages for you.

Dream a dream
Marq and Mia
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: xeno on September 26, 2007, 03:30:00 AM
I rarely have dreams, but usually when I do I cant tell because I never come across a mirror, nor do I ever look down or around, as if I'm just "there" and I don't have a physical form at the time...
but when I do have a form I am usually a girl...(meaning 25% I was male or both in the dream)
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Jessie_Heart on September 26, 2007, 03:39:06 AM
Quote from: xeno on September 26, 2007, 03:30:00 AM
I rarely have dreams, but usually when I do I cant tell because I never come across a mirror, nor do I ever look down or around, as if I'm just "there" and I don't have a physical form at the time...
but when I do have a form I am usually a girl...(meaning 25% I was male or both in the dream)

I have never had a dream where it was from the first person perspective (where I was looking out of my own eyes) it has always been more like watching a movie where I just see the events and when I see me I just know who I am in the dream
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Ms Bev on September 26, 2007, 08:26:48 AM
Quote from: Jessie_Heart on September 26, 2007, 03:39:06 AM

I have never had a dream where it was from the first person perspective (where I was looking out of my own eyes)
My dreams have always been, and still are in first person

Posted on: September 26, 2007, 08:23:44 AM
Quote from: Marq and Mia on September 26, 2007, 02:50:10 AM
not all dreams have messages for you.

Dream a dream
Marq and Mia

I think my dream life is an important time for my mind to sift and sort thoughts, concepts, and especially feelings.

Then, sometimes, some of my dreams seem to be ridiculous brain farts.
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Wendy on September 28, 2007, 04:36:27 PM
Jessie,

You did not have my option in the selection menu and therefore I could not vote.  I have never had a gender in my "sleeping" dreams and I can never see myself in my dreams.  Women were always my allies in my youthful dreams.

I no longer seem to remember my sleeping dreams.

In day dreams I am a girl but I do not think that is what you wanted in your survey.
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: InBetween on September 28, 2007, 05:42:09 PM
I am usually female in my dreams. I tend to dream what is physical, rather than what is truly me. Of course, I have had a few dreams in which I was male. These, needless to say, are some of my favorites.


-Merrick Scott
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: MichelleA on September 28, 2007, 05:50:18 PM
Sadly for me, dreams seem not to exist for me ever since I hit puberty and fully understanding I was transgendered. However lately when I have a rare dream, I appear female in the dream unless it's a nightmare which I seem to have more then dreams. Rather I prefer it the way it is right now, I fall asleep and dream of nothing but eternal darkness.. Sad to say but I do enjoy those moments over the nightmares, but not over my rare dreams.

So .. I put 50/50 for my answer in your survey.

Michelle
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: no_id on September 28, 2007, 05:53:36 PM
Um, can someone enlighten me on how to answer this question if you don't have a gender?... ;)

8)

Let's just say; my body fits the above description; sexless.
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Alison on September 28, 2007, 05:58:47 PM
My dreams are usually in first person..


So...

I dunno?
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Bobbie on September 28, 2007, 06:09:39 PM
I don't recall ever having any gender in my dreams and I've never seen myself so I don't know who or even what I am, although I do get the feeling that I am always naked.
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: Jessie_Heart on September 28, 2007, 06:41:31 PM
I am so sorry to everyone that I didn't think to put a selection for genderless in the future I will remember this it was very incinsiderate (as in I didn't consider it there for it would be inconsiderate!). I didn't mean to leave anyone out (and once again I didn't mean to do it I just didn't consider it therefore = inconsiderate)
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on October 03, 2007, 05:45:20 PM
before I transitoined, I think I was female >.<. Now that I have, I'm male. But half the time, I don't even notice.

-Matt
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: no_id on October 04, 2007, 01:25:08 AM
Quote from: Jessie_Heart on September 28, 2007, 06:41:31 PM
I am so sorry to everyone that I didn't think to put a selection for genderless in the future I will remember this it was very incinsiderate (as in I didn't consider it there for it would be inconsiderate!). I didn't mean to leave anyone out (and once again I didn't mean to do it I just didn't consider it therefore = inconsiderate)

Not a problem at all Jessie. I for one didn't feel offended at all, and apparently didn't feel left out since I still answered the question, didn't I? ;)

All-with-all you could have ignored it completely, but didn't. As you said yourself; you'll remember for the future, and there isn't a thing more I, or I assume, any other null could wish for. :)

We're all here to learn, one way or the other. Don't feel bad. 8)
Title: Re: DREAM GENDER
Post by: cindybc on October 06, 2007, 12:09:39 AM
Hi all I been full time for 7 years and post op for 4 years. I didn't really start dreaming of myself as the gender I am now until a couple of years ago. I have not been able to remember dreams until these  occasional dreams I have been having in the last couple years. In the past 7 years I have also had allot of time to reflect on my childhood and growing up into my teens and early twenties. The way I see it I could very easily put myself during my growing up years up to my teens as being a girl. I associated mostly with girls. Played the dressing up thing, my mom knew and never said a word to anyone else. I was abused and raped by my ex. Oh yeah, it happens. It wasn't until I was 47 years old that I discovered what the word transsexual meant. It has been a long road but I can see with clarity whom I was all along through the years. It was the other gender that was meant to never have existed.

Cindy