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Title: Zoolander 2 slammed over ‘awful, unfunny’ Benedict Cumberbatch trans joke
Post by: stephaniec on November 18, 2015, 04:01:08 PM
Post by: stephaniec on November 18, 2015, 04:01:08 PM
Zoolander 2 slammed over 'awful, unfunny' Benedict Cumberbatch trans joke
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/11/18/zoolander-2-slammed-over-awful-unfunny-benedict-cumberbatch-trans-joke/
Pink News/By Nick Duffy 11/18/2015
"The clip features Sherlock star Benedict Cumberbatch as All, a new supermodel whose gender is unclear, referencing the trend of androgynous models in high fashion.
However, some have criticized the way the film appears to handle the scenario, with Zoolander and Hansel asking: "Do you have a hot dog or a bun?""
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/11/18/zoolander-2-slammed-over-awful-unfunny-benedict-cumberbatch-trans-joke/
Pink News/By Nick Duffy 11/18/2015
"The clip features Sherlock star Benedict Cumberbatch as All, a new supermodel whose gender is unclear, referencing the trend of androgynous models in high fashion.
However, some have criticized the way the film appears to handle the scenario, with Zoolander and Hansel asking: "Do you have a hot dog or a bun?""
Title: Re: Zoolander 2 slammed over ‘awful, unfunny’ Benedict Cumberbatch trans joke
Post by: Peep on November 19, 2015, 08:37:09 AM
Post by: Peep on November 19, 2015, 08:37:09 AM
Is it bad that I still want to see it? I might not pay to see it...
Sidenote Cumberbatch is so scary without eyebrows
Sidenote Cumberbatch is so scary without eyebrows
Title: Re: Zoolander 2 slammed over ‘awful, unfunny’ Benedict Cumberbatch trans joke
Post by: kira21 ♡♡♡ on November 19, 2015, 09:45:10 AM
Post by: kira21 ♡♡♡ on November 19, 2015, 09:45:10 AM
Isn't the joke about the dimwits that would say such a thing rather than the person that it is being said about?
Title: Re: Zoolander 2 slammed over ‘awful, unfunny’ Benedict Cumberbatch trans joke
Post by: Sydney_NYC on November 19, 2015, 09:52:13 AM
Post by: Sydney_NYC on November 19, 2015, 09:52:13 AM
It's bad taste (and so is the whole movie), but I don't think it's transphobic. I think it was aimed more at androgynous models like Raine Dove than transgender individuals. I am curious to what Raine Dove thinks about it though. I'll have to ask her.
Title: Re: Zoolander 2 slammed over ‘awful, unfunny’ Benedict Cumberbatch trans joke
Post by: stephaniec on November 19, 2015, 03:19:41 PM
Post by: stephaniec on November 19, 2015, 03:19:41 PM
I like Stiller's movies so as another has suggested I'll probably sneak in. There has been a lively discussion in the comment section.
Title: Re: Zoolander 2 slammed over ‘awful, unfunny’ Benedict Cumberbatch trans joke
Post by: Ms Grace on November 19, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
Post by: Ms Grace on November 19, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
Quote"Do you have a hot dog or a bun?"
ugh... the pinnacle of wit...
It may not be transphobic per se but you can bet it makes it way into the vernacular as a trans shaming exercise fairly quickly.
Title: Re: Zoolander 2 slammed over ‘awful, unfunny’ Benedict Cumberbatch trans joke
Post by: Peep on November 19, 2015, 05:02:00 PM
Post by: Peep on November 19, 2015, 05:02:00 PM
Quote from: Ms Grace on November 19, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
ugh... the pinnacle of wit...
It may not be transphobic per se but you can bet it makes it way into the vernacular as a trans shaming exercise fairly quickly.
Yeah that is a thing, the people involved will say it's just a joke not meant with spite but they can't control how the joke is repeated or who by...
Title: Re: Zoolander 2 slammed over ‘awful, unfunny’ Benedict Cumberbatch trans joke
Post by: Jill F on November 19, 2015, 05:11:09 PM
Post by: Jill F on November 19, 2015, 05:11:09 PM
Quote from: stephaniec on November 18, 2015, 04:01:08 PM
"Do you have a hot dog or a bun?""
The problem with this is that this trivializes what it is to be transgender and that some people will start to think it's OK to do this.
If a cis guy asks me this, I will be tempted to kick him as hard as I can in the groin and then ask him the same question.