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Hello, I was just curious if Estrogen was powerful enough to block T on its own. I'm kind of afraid to take blockers because I heard it could hurt your liver in the long run. Also would the changes be just as good as if I were taking the blockers? Also if my age helps anything,I'm 14 almost 15. Going to my first evaluation this Wednesday! I'm really excited to be 1 step closer to starting hormones. :)

Yes it's possible. Personally I am not on t blockers. My testosterone levels were so low to begin with that is easily taken care of by the estrogen. But of course that's all up to the doctor to decide. Make sure you discuss your concerns with them.

Yes but who would want to. Estrogen can also cause liver damage so you will receive regular blood test to check liver function. Should a problem be detected, you dosage will be adjusted to control the problem.

The down side of the lack of blockers is I was on estrogen without blockers (they hadn't been invented yet) and at maximum dosage the estrogen wasn't able to block T production. As the result, I didn't learn what it was like to get the T out of my system until after surgery. The blockers will help you feel more comfortable with yourself so I suggest you ask your questions of the doctor and trust your doctors judgement.

The odds are the first thing you will be started on will be the blockers and estrogen will be added latter.

Yes its possible.
here is more info:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,200276.msg1780580.html#msg1780580

It depends on the intake necessary.
Estro levels should be well above 200-300pg/ml .
Its possible your endo does not know this... you simply might discuss it with them.

It makes sense to do without anti androgens imo.

Feminization is at least as good as long as levels of t are low.


well, congratulations  :)

And I still love your username  :)


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Hello Everyone, speaking from experience.  Taking estrogen without a T blocker was a bad idea.  At the time I was not was aware a T blocker was necessary.  T levels shot through the roof, sending me to GP seeking relief.  Forced me to come out to my wife much earlier than planned.

Once the T blocker was prescribed everything settled down quickly.

Thank you,
Anne

Quote from: Dena on December 07, 2015, 02:17:20 PM
Estrogen can also cause liver damage

Studies show this for oral intake. Sublingual intake can help, and internal intake like implants or injections is considered much safer.

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The down side of the lack of blockers is I was on estrogen without blockers (they hadn't been invented yet) and at maximum dosage the estrogen wasn't able to block T production.

It depends on the form of application.
Pregnant women have quite high estro levels.
Its not considered safe with oral application, where clotting and liver stress may play a role.


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Quote from: OOAnne on December 07, 2015, 02:26:47 PM
Hello Everyone, speaking from experience.  Taking estrogen without a T blocker was a bad idea.  At the time I was not was aware a T blocker was necessary.  T levels shot through the roof, sending me to GP seeking relief.  Forced me to come out to my wife much earlier than planned.

Once the T blocker was prescribed everything settled down quickly.

Thank you,
Anne

There is a well known effect that levels well in the normal female range can drive down t levels as well.
But its not considered safe with oral application.
With injections, during the first days levels can be in the range of 900. Pregnant women have even higher levels.

Many people compliment this with bioidentical progesterone to counter some side effects of estro.


Its the same for ftm people. Their t drives down estro production.


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ILC,

I would talk it over with your doctor.  My endo, who has considerable experience with MTF transgender folks, has me on estrogen only, through pills.  My natural T levels were low, so I am well within the female hormone levels, and I am not on any t blockers.

I have been on E for a year and a half, and on my current full dose for 9 months.  My doctor does not see this as too risky, although he does run  liver function tests.

Best,
C