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Title: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 09:10:27 PM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 09:10:27 PM
Can I expect anything from HRT in this regard during my mid forties (especially concerning my face) or have I left this too late in my life?
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Lyndsey on December 25, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
Post by: Lyndsey on December 25, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
Hi Roxie
Everyone reacts differently to HRT That Is something that you will want to talk to your Doctor about. There is usually a lot of changes that happen but then the age factor comes into play. Mood and comfort in your mind is the biggest thing that may help you as it did me wonders.
Hug's
Lyndsey
Everyone reacts differently to HRT That Is something that you will want to talk to your Doctor about. There is usually a lot of changes that happen but then the age factor comes into play. Mood and comfort in your mind is the biggest thing that may help you as it did me wonders.
Hug's
Lyndsey
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 09:36:43 PM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 09:36:43 PM
Thank you so much Lyndsey, I will take note of what you have passed on. I am now happier but also a bit more apprehensive about my expectations but that's okay because it adds to the excitement of what is to be the start of the most beautiful staging point of my life's journey!
Hugs Roxie.
Hugs Roxie.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Deborah on December 25, 2015, 09:38:57 PM
Post by: Deborah on December 25, 2015, 09:38:57 PM
I'm 56 and my face has changed at 11 months on HRT. My profile pic is only a couple of months old. I've lost about 35 lbs and my face is a whole lot less gaunt than it was before at this weight. Muscle loss is different in different places. My neck is 2" smaller. Arms lost over an inch. My back and lats seem to be shrinking much slower though and my legs are still about the same size, thighs at 24". A lot of that is genetic though. My daughter who is a whole lot shorter than me and is a really in shape fitness instructor has 23" thighs so I expect mine won't get any smaller there.
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Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 09:45:11 PM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 09:45:11 PM
Wow! Lyndsey and Deborah if I can look only half as soft and feminine as you two girls I will be able to live as the woman that I know myself to be!
Hugs to you.
Hugs to you.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 09:53:00 PM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 09:53:00 PM
so In answer to my question I now have a REAL hope for a REAL ANSWER from HRT. I should also mention that you girls are also gorgeous to a point that I can only hope for once I start my HRT. I just hope you can tolerate me gushing from hope and excitement while not thinking of me as just a foolish newcomer.
Title: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Deborah on December 25, 2015, 09:54:48 PM
Post by: Deborah on December 25, 2015, 09:54:48 PM
Thank you. :-). But like Lyndsey said, the mental changes are really the best and quickest. For me it lifted a nagging very long term depression/anxiety so that for the first time in many years, maybe forever, I know what it means to be happy and not always on a knife's edge of anger and cynicism. With that gone my brain seems to function more clearly allowing me to concentrate on tasks much better. Maybe coincidentally, maybe not, my ability to instantaneously recall "the right word" when speaking is improved drastically. I used to stumble over that a lot.
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Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Lyndsey on December 25, 2015, 10:12:07 PM
Post by: Lyndsey on December 25, 2015, 10:12:07 PM
Quote from: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 09:45:11 PM
Wow! Lyndsey and Deborah if I can look only half as soft and feminine as you two girls I will be able to live as the woman that I know myself to be!
Hugs to you.
Thank You Roxie
You will find your happiness and I know that I did and as Deborah said the mind set is the best part! I know that I'm a very calm and relaxed women now and very happy with how things have worked out for me. I'm 58 years young and I did not come out till 2011 so It will be 5 years sense I started and I happy Here is a link to some of my pictures that should tell you. how much change there can be. I have one brother that had not seen me sense I came out and he was standing at the deli in the local shopping plaza talking to me and didn't know who I was. Check out this link.
https://www.pinterest.com/burke1060/the-old-me-over-the-years/
Hug's Lyndsey
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 10:26:08 PM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 10:26:08 PM
You are so right Deborah and Lyndsey, I have finally made my decision to become myself after decades of confusion and struggle. While I realise that this leg of the journey will potentially be abjectly (or horribly) difficult I know that its destination will deliver me to a place of which I have dreamed of for the past 15 years. I am a traditionally classified "late onset" transgender woman because I grew up having a masculine role reinforced by my family and peers, which I ignorantly accepted, but I have always known that something has been there within me. NOW I am going for it! Thus now I will start to find peace and happiness.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 10:45:19 PM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 10:45:19 PM
Far out Lyndsey, the bodily change from June 2011 to July 2015 is no less than amazing and your face has become beautifully feminine beyond words.
Your own brother? Wow, that is an awesome tale!
Unfortunately because the endocrinologist with whom I am due to start consulting with is still on holidays I have to wait until mid February before I commence HRT but you make me want to start RIGHT NOW.
Your own brother? Wow, that is an awesome tale!
Unfortunately because the endocrinologist with whom I am due to start consulting with is still on holidays I have to wait until mid February before I commence HRT but you make me want to start RIGHT NOW.
Title: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: iKate on December 25, 2015, 11:06:11 PM
Post by: iKate on December 25, 2015, 11:06:11 PM
I barely got any mental effects from HRT but I'm 37 and HRT has been very good to me physically. Muscle mass reduction in particular has been very noticeable.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: vickym on December 25, 2015, 11:24:55 PM
Post by: vickym on December 25, 2015, 11:24:55 PM
For me it was mostly mental.I was really slim before and I'm really slim now(think boyish,endurance athlete) but more feminine.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 26, 2015, 12:40:22 AM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 26, 2015, 12:40:22 AM
Thank you both, Kate and Vicki, for between your variant takes on your changes you have given me two positive things to look forward to. At present I am in the process of losing weight and studiously remaining fit and healthy, ie not smoking, very occasionally drinking and undergoing calorie burning routines at the gym while trying to simultaneously avoid muscle building. I like your red hair too Vickym, it looks lovely in a "now I'm jealous" kind of way! As far as your stated happiness with the physical effects of HRT I'm not surprised given your dusky and feminine beauty Kate.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: MichaelaLJ1972 on December 26, 2015, 05:50:11 AM
Post by: MichaelaLJ1972 on December 26, 2015, 05:50:11 AM
I just started at 43 years old. Only a couple weeks in, but I can say that the mental changes come quickly, even on the lower dosage that I started with. I'm not sure if it's actually the HRT or the feeling of being free because I finally started my journey. Physically, my skin has already started to feel softer, which is nice and there is a lot of sensitivity in my chest, which I wasn't expecting so soon.
Reading these forums gave me a lot of courage to get started. One thing I learned is that it's never too late. That was always my major excuse. I wish you well on your own journey.
Reading these forums gave me a lot of courage to get started. One thing I learned is that it's never too late. That was always my major excuse. I wish you well on your own journey.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: allisonsteph on December 26, 2015, 06:48:13 AM
Post by: allisonsteph on December 26, 2015, 06:48:13 AM
I am 47 and have been on HRT for almost two years. I have lost 3" in my neck and 4" in my chest. I now have a visible collar bone and wear a 40C bra. The belly fat is slowly making its way to my hips and butt. As others above me have pointed out everyone is different. I will agree that the most positive impact of HRT has been an improvement in how I feel about myself.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 26, 2015, 11:46:15 AM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 26, 2015, 11:46:15 AM
Thanx Michaela and Allison Stephanie, the knowledge that I am gaining about HRT calming my emotional and psychological needs to physically change is great but to be honest I certainly don't mind the hope of gaining some hips, boobies and a butt! Together these things are overwhelming me in a good way!
I think I will have to learn to become a redhead because I love your long russet hair Allison Stephanie and thank you very, very, very much for your wonderfully kind encouragements Michaela. By the way Allison, you have a very handy grasp of Latin which is great in, and of, itself.
Additionally I must thank ALL you girls who have replied to my post/question and thus shown me examples (through your photos) of some of the feminine beauty that I can hope to realise.
I think I will have to learn to become a redhead because I love your long russet hair Allison Stephanie and thank you very, very, very much for your wonderfully kind encouragements Michaela. By the way Allison, you have a very handy grasp of Latin which is great in, and of, itself.
Additionally I must thank ALL you girls who have replied to my post/question and thus shown me examples (through your photos) of some of the feminine beauty that I can hope to realise.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Lyndsey on December 26, 2015, 11:57:26 AM
Post by: Lyndsey on December 26, 2015, 11:57:26 AM
Quote from: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 10:45:19 PM
Far out Lyndsey, the bodily change from June 2011 to July 2015 is no less than amazing and your face has become beautifully feminine beyond words.
Your own brother? Wow, that is an awesome tale!
Unfortunately because the endocrinologist with whom I am due to start consulting with is still on holidays I have to wait until mid February before I commence HRT but you make me want to start RIGHT NOW.
Hi Roxie
You will be fine and try not to let others take over with your transition as remember you are doing this for yourself and know one else. It can be a hard journey but you will need to block out the negatives and stick with the good that you are doing for you. You will always have my blessing and feel free to PM me at anytime. If I can't answer something for you I'm very sure that someone here can help you for sure. Susan's it full of wonderful people and I'm sure you will get all the support that you can use.
Big Hug's
Lyndsey
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: allisonsteph on December 27, 2015, 08:53:48 AM
Post by: allisonsteph on December 27, 2015, 08:53:48 AM
Quote from: roxie rudi on December 26, 2015, 11:46:15 AM
I think I will have to learn to become a redhead because I love your long russet hair Allison Stephanie and thank you very, very, very much for your wonderfully kind encouragements Michaela. By the way Allison, you have a very handy grasp of Latin which is great in, and of, itself.
It took two years to grow it out this long. I am a natural blonde but have wanted red hair since the first time I say Whitesnake's "Here I Go Again" video back in the 80s. Took me 30 years to get there, but I love my hair colour and wouldn't give it up for the world.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Lyndsey on December 27, 2015, 11:50:40 AM
Post by: Lyndsey on December 27, 2015, 11:50:40 AM
Quote from: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 10:45:19 PM
Far out Lyndsey, the bodily change from June 2011 to July 2015 is no less than amazing and your face has become beautifully feminine beyond words.
Your own brother? Wow, that is an awesome tale!
Unfortunately because the endocrinologist with whom I am due to start consulting with is still on holidays I have to wait until mid February before I commence HRT but you make me want to start RIGHT NOW.
Thank You Roxie
You are so sweet. It is amazing the changes that can happen over time all you need to do is be patient as it will come in time. The only surgeries that I have done at this time is VFS and I did have SRS but the SRS does not make you anymore of a women! I did it because I felt that I needed to do it for myself. I now have a boy friend who it a striate man and he doesn't care that I'm trans. He said Im a women to him because I now have the right parts and he Does't consider himself gay because of that. BUT like I said I did it for myself not him and the ones who don't have SRS are no less of a women. That is a decision that only you can make and for yourself.
Big Hugs
Lyndsey
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 27, 2015, 01:06:00 PM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 27, 2015, 01:06:00 PM
Hi again Lyndsey and Allisonsteph, you girls are the MOST encouraging women I could meet! Yep', long and lovely red hair for me so I guess further impetus to growing my hair out has been given but it will also allow time for me to learn the ways of choosing and applying hair colours/dyes alongside my hopefully developing makeup skills. Thanks!
Because I am a newcomer Lyndsey, I am still obsessing about being passable and so forgive me if I cause any offense. From what you guys have told me HRT will most likely relax my mental and emotional needs to be a woman but I am, at present, feeling the need live as the woman I know myself to be and "passability" seems, to me at least, intrinsic to this because I wish to be SEEN as this woman in order to live as her! Remembering none of us live as islands. My question is this; is FFS likely to be necessary for a 46 year old to be passable? (I don't know what VFS is Lyndsey, sorry!)
Big hugs right back at you guys,
Roxie.
Because I am a newcomer Lyndsey, I am still obsessing about being passable and so forgive me if I cause any offense. From what you guys have told me HRT will most likely relax my mental and emotional needs to be a woman but I am, at present, feeling the need live as the woman I know myself to be and "passability" seems, to me at least, intrinsic to this because I wish to be SEEN as this woman in order to live as her! Remembering none of us live as islands. My question is this; is FFS likely to be necessary for a 46 year old to be passable? (I don't know what VFS is Lyndsey, sorry!)
Big hugs right back at you guys,
Roxie.
Title: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Deborah on December 27, 2015, 01:20:19 PM
Post by: Deborah on December 27, 2015, 01:20:19 PM
You may find what I have on HRT. Before I had that drive to live as woman too. Now that drive is replaced by a mental image of myself as a woman no matter what I look like or am wearing at the moment. It is quite a liberating feeling. So, I feel very at ease just taking my time and letting things happen. It helps too that I have grown my hair for a year and it's pretty thick and unless I'm wearing a tie and present my old ID with a beard I rarely am called sir anymore and am called ma'am more often than sir. Mostly at this point though I think people are unsure. That's in jeans, a button down shirt, and no makeup, and facial hair not removed yet.
So HRT can make a pretty big difference in looks pretty quickly. FFS would help that along greatly too. For me though the primary benefit has been mental in reducing the discord and making me feel whole.
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So HRT can make a pretty big difference in looks pretty quickly. FFS would help that along greatly too. For me though the primary benefit has been mental in reducing the discord and making me feel whole.
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Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 27, 2015, 01:43:48 PM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 27, 2015, 01:43:48 PM
Thank you Deborah although I must repeat that you have a gorgeously soft and feminine face. But without any reserves I look forward to the mental and emotional freedoms granted by HRT. Luckily I am an Aussie girl so medical costs, such as domestic ones or those incurred by traveling to Thailand, are relatively lesser for me.
Hugs
Roxie.
Hugs
Roxie.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Deborah on December 27, 2015, 02:22:23 PM
Post by: Deborah on December 27, 2015, 02:22:23 PM
Here is where I started. This pic is maybe about 5 years old and 30 or so pounds heavier.
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This one is about 2 years old at my current weight.
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I'm not sure I'll leave these posted for a long time.
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This one is about 2 years old at my current weight.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff341%2Fdebbie7571%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F26ED158B-BA07-4A9F-9E65-07F5F7BD1A38_zpscfbkjhwy.jpg&hash=71725bd63d0a1caea3432ada972ca919c9197fbc) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/debbie7571/media/Mobile%20Uploads/26ED158B-BA07-4A9F-9E65-07F5F7BD1A38_zpscfbkjhwy.jpg.html)
I'm not sure I'll leave these posted for a long time.
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Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: allisonsteph on December 27, 2015, 03:47:43 PM
Post by: allisonsteph on December 27, 2015, 03:47:43 PM
Seeing Deborah shared, I thought I would too...
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June 2012
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December 2015
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June 2012
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December 2015
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Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Lyndsey on December 27, 2015, 04:13:35 PM
Post by: Lyndsey on December 27, 2015, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: Deborah on December 27, 2015, 02:22:23 PM
Here is where I started. This pic is maybe about 5 years old and 30 or so pounds heavier.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff341%2Fdebbie7571%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F22108E1B-E9D3-40AA-A667-3C928B00CBBD_zpsj59nyhdb.jpg&hash=cd2364c008f03c9bcbeaffb45059eb6d6ff65330) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/debbie7571/media/Mobile%20Uploads/22108E1B-E9D3-40AA-A667-3C928B00CBBD_zpsj59nyhdb.jpg.html)
This one is about 2 years old at my current weight.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff341%2Fdebbie7571%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F26ED158B-BA07-4A9F-9E65-07F5F7BD1A38_zpscfbkjhwy.jpg&hash=71725bd63d0a1caea3432ada972ca919c9197fbc) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/debbie7571/media/Mobile%20Uploads/26ED158B-BA07-4A9F-9E65-07F5F7BD1A38_zpscfbkjhwy.jpg.html)
I'm not sure I'll leave these posted for a long time.
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WOW Deborah
I would never no who you were from the post you just put up here. What a change! You look Great.
You look so beautiful now a very pretty women. :angel: :angel:
Hug's
Lyndsey
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Lyndsey on December 27, 2015, 04:18:24 PM
Post by: Lyndsey on December 27, 2015, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: allisonsteph on December 27, 2015, 03:47:43 PM
Seeing Deborah shared, I thought I would too...
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June 2012
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December 2015
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WOW Allison
What a change. Love the Red hair! You look sweet and Happy too. That most important part. It's funny how much things change over time when we our selfs don't realize it. Beautiful !!
Hug's
Lyndsey
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 27, 2015, 05:39:15 PM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 27, 2015, 05:39:15 PM
That is my question thoroughly answered girls. Wowee! Thanks, thanks and more thanks! I might reasonably hope for soft, beautiful and "oh-so" feminine features framed by gorgeous hair if I both remain patient and follow the instructions of the medicos (such as my endocrinologist) involved. My dreams are being given true life at last.
Hugs from Roxie/Roxanne.
Hugs from Roxie/Roxanne.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: RobynD on December 27, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
Post by: RobynD on December 27, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
At almost 11 months, i have noticed none or very little change in my face proportionally, but i have noticed it looks different because my skin has changed and my complexion is not oily anymore. My weight has remained basically constant but i have gained a cup size on my bust (i was gynecomastic before HRT) i have gained about an inch on my hips, lost an inch on my waist and gained two full inches on my butt. My spouse has notice the size and shape of my butt changing.
I started HRT at 49 (if you count messing around with herbals 47ish, but i dont count that)
Everyone is different i guess, but i have been really pleased so far.
I started HRT at 49 (if you count messing around with herbals 47ish, but i dont count that)
Everyone is different i guess, but i have been really pleased so far.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Jessie Ann on December 28, 2015, 12:14:58 AM
Post by: Jessie Ann on December 28, 2015, 12:14:58 AM
Hi Roxanne! In answer to your questions it kind of depends on a number of things. You will need to consider your starting point, the level of your current hormones, what level of HRT you start out at (low dose or transition level), HRT delivery method, how your body reacts to HRT and any number of other variables. As many of the ladies here have pointed out, mid forties should not be an obstacle to transitioning.
Like many of the ladies here I began my transition later in life. In fact, I started earlier this year when I was 53. I am 54 now. You asked if FFS is needed to be passing again it depends on a number of factors. How comfortable you are with your appearance. Your hair and makeup skills. There can be a lot of variables.
To give you an idea of how fast the changes can occur, even for a later in life transition, here are some pictures.
(For reference I began HRT on March 2nd of this year. I went full time everywhere but work in April and full time everywhere on June 15th. I had FFS and BA on August 31st.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FCE74DAB6-D652-4100-8FE6-EE0B0609BA8D_zpsnwpaq8ot.jpg&hash=281443e88adac0a4b3c675d78a1a87c95d02dc7d) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CE74DAB6-D652-4100-8FE6-EE0B0609BA8D_zpsnwpaq8ot.jpg.html)
This picture shows how I looked in March of this year when I started HRT vs how I looked last week.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FEBAE8B6C-6969-4917-8EB6-68073B9A3D26_zps5pdz3zxy.jpg&hash=15e1a9211c7da80c2f67dcc2c4867939d4ec65e4) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/EBAE8B6C-6969-4917-8EB6-68073B9A3D26_zps5pdz3zxy.jpg.html)\
A couple of years ago and July 2015 (before FFS).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FA2E3EAB7-8103-44F1-B037-BD73FEF90386_zpsfoqv0xit.jpg&hash=6ce38b88e4e3c344512b5a6ce695588ef1156dd4) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A2E3EAB7-8103-44F1-B037-BD73FEF90386_zpsfoqv0xit.jpg.html)
Eight years ago vs August (before FFS).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FB113CFA7-0C31-412A-85C0-9A87D9F4BB25_zpszmyzesdm.jpg&hash=794cf6d5573ad673754f0730f5d3f3ab78de55d0) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B113CFA7-0C31-412A-85C0-9A87D9F4BB25_zpszmyzesdm.jpg.html)
August 2014 and December 2015
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F5879A582-7944-4026-89D6-49232CF78BFC_zpsvfnte6fa.jpg&hash=ef057dc1e978e925c41872142b0b185a710a58c9) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/5879A582-7944-4026-89D6-49232CF78BFC_zpsvfnte6fa.jpg.html)
December 16th (shows the results of HRT, FFS and breast augmentation)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FBD367CBE-4733-44C3-83FB-8A693F10AC71_zpscouku33q.jpg&hash=060e3c135573f12a03f8aa5b415874d6593250a1) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/BD367CBE-4733-44C3-83FB-8A693F10AC71_zpscouku33q.jpg.html)
December 2nd Post FFS and BA
I was full time I believe I was passing ok relatively quickly. Once I got my hair colored and styled and I got my makeup skills learned I was very confident in my appearance. The other things that you will need to work on besides your physical appearance is your voice, mannerisms and walking skills. All of those things affect how you are perceived by others. Believe it or not I still get the occasional "sir" comment when someone isn't paying attention because of my size. I can be in a skirt with red lipstick and nails, large hoop earrings, full Smokey Eyes with a plunging neckline blouse showing my 38C boobs and get "sir'd". I laugh when that happens.
Good luck and get ready for the ride of your life.
Like many of the ladies here I began my transition later in life. In fact, I started earlier this year when I was 53. I am 54 now. You asked if FFS is needed to be passing again it depends on a number of factors. How comfortable you are with your appearance. Your hair and makeup skills. There can be a lot of variables.
To give you an idea of how fast the changes can occur, even for a later in life transition, here are some pictures.
(For reference I began HRT on March 2nd of this year. I went full time everywhere but work in April and full time everywhere on June 15th. I had FFS and BA on August 31st.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FCE74DAB6-D652-4100-8FE6-EE0B0609BA8D_zpsnwpaq8ot.jpg&hash=281443e88adac0a4b3c675d78a1a87c95d02dc7d) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CE74DAB6-D652-4100-8FE6-EE0B0609BA8D_zpsnwpaq8ot.jpg.html)
This picture shows how I looked in March of this year when I started HRT vs how I looked last week.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FEBAE8B6C-6969-4917-8EB6-68073B9A3D26_zps5pdz3zxy.jpg&hash=15e1a9211c7da80c2f67dcc2c4867939d4ec65e4) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/EBAE8B6C-6969-4917-8EB6-68073B9A3D26_zps5pdz3zxy.jpg.html)\
A couple of years ago and July 2015 (before FFS).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FA2E3EAB7-8103-44F1-B037-BD73FEF90386_zpsfoqv0xit.jpg&hash=6ce38b88e4e3c344512b5a6ce695588ef1156dd4) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A2E3EAB7-8103-44F1-B037-BD73FEF90386_zpsfoqv0xit.jpg.html)
Eight years ago vs August (before FFS).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FB113CFA7-0C31-412A-85C0-9A87D9F4BB25_zpszmyzesdm.jpg&hash=794cf6d5573ad673754f0730f5d3f3ab78de55d0) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B113CFA7-0C31-412A-85C0-9A87D9F4BB25_zpszmyzesdm.jpg.html)
August 2014 and December 2015
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F5879A582-7944-4026-89D6-49232CF78BFC_zpsvfnte6fa.jpg&hash=ef057dc1e978e925c41872142b0b185a710a58c9) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/5879A582-7944-4026-89D6-49232CF78BFC_zpsvfnte6fa.jpg.html)
December 16th (shows the results of HRT, FFS and breast augmentation)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FBD367CBE-4733-44C3-83FB-8A693F10AC71_zpscouku33q.jpg&hash=060e3c135573f12a03f8aa5b415874d6593250a1) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/BD367CBE-4733-44C3-83FB-8A693F10AC71_zpscouku33q.jpg.html)
December 2nd Post FFS and BA
I was full time I believe I was passing ok relatively quickly. Once I got my hair colored and styled and I got my makeup skills learned I was very confident in my appearance. The other things that you will need to work on besides your physical appearance is your voice, mannerisms and walking skills. All of those things affect how you are perceived by others. Believe it or not I still get the occasional "sir" comment when someone isn't paying attention because of my size. I can be in a skirt with red lipstick and nails, large hoop earrings, full Smokey Eyes with a plunging neckline blouse showing my 38C boobs and get "sir'd". I laugh when that happens.
Good luck and get ready for the ride of your life.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 28, 2015, 02:30:23 AM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 28, 2015, 02:30:23 AM
Jessie Anne what can I say? You are so gorgeous that I need to start ASAP which for me is mid February. Wow. But I might consider help from FFS too and luckily I have been able to save for various surgeries. Furthermore I live in Australia and Thailand is close by for these.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Lyndsey on December 28, 2015, 05:11:43 PM
Post by: Lyndsey on December 28, 2015, 05:11:43 PM
Quote from: roxie rudi on December 25, 2015, 09:53:00 PM
so In answer to my question I now have a REAL hope for a REAL ANSWER from HRT. I should also mention that you girls are also gorgeous to a point that I can only hope for once I start my HRT. I just hope you can tolerate me gushing from hope and excitement while not thinking of me as just a foolish newcomer.
Hi Roxie
Never worry you are very welcome on here as we all have a lot of questions on a lot of different things. The only one that will really feel and notice the big changes will be you. Over time It can be so rewarding. I myself haven't realized the amount of changes till I look back at my pictures of my passed and then I can see it. The biggest part for me was the calmness that came to me with HRT. I can not even began to tell you how wonderful it has been for me. Everything takes time and you must keep your patients as it does not happen over night. :angel:
Keep a picture log for yourself you will be amazed at the changes over time.
Love
Lyndsey
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Lyndsey on December 28, 2015, 05:19:22 PM
Post by: Lyndsey on December 28, 2015, 05:19:22 PM
Quote from: Jessie Ann on December 28, 2015, 12:14:58 AM
Hi Roxanne! In answer to your questions it kind of depends on a number of things. You will need to consider your starting point, the level of your current hormones, what level of HRT you start out at (low dose or transition level), HRT delivery method, how your body reacts to HRT and any number of other variables. As many of the ladies here have pointed out, mid forties should not be an obstacle to transitioning.
Like many of the ladies here I began my transition later in life. In fact, I started earlier this year when I was 53. I am 54 now. You asked if FFS is needed to be passing again it depends on a number of factors. How comfortable you are with your appearance. Your hair and makeup skills. There can be a lot of variables.
To give you an idea of how fast the changes can occur, even for a later in life transition, here are some pictures.
(For reference I began HRT on March 2nd of this year. I went full time everywhere but work in April and full time everywhere on June 15th. I had FFS and BA on August 31st.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FCE74DAB6-D652-4100-8FE6-EE0B0609BA8D_zpsnwpaq8ot.jpg&hash=281443e88adac0a4b3c675d78a1a87c95d02dc7d) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CE74DAB6-D652-4100-8FE6-EE0B0609BA8D_zpsnwpaq8ot.jpg.html)
This picture shows how I looked in March of this year when I started HRT vs how I looked last week.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FEBAE8B6C-6969-4917-8EB6-68073B9A3D26_zps5pdz3zxy.jpg&hash=15e1a9211c7da80c2f67dcc2c4867939d4ec65e4) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/EBAE8B6C-6969-4917-8EB6-68073B9A3D26_zps5pdz3zxy.jpg.html)\
A couple of years ago and July 2015 (before FFS).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FA2E3EAB7-8103-44F1-B037-BD73FEF90386_zpsfoqv0xit.jpg&hash=6ce38b88e4e3c344512b5a6ce695588ef1156dd4) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A2E3EAB7-8103-44F1-B037-BD73FEF90386_zpsfoqv0xit.jpg.html)
Eight years ago vs August (before FFS).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FB113CFA7-0C31-412A-85C0-9A87D9F4BB25_zpszmyzesdm.jpg&hash=794cf6d5573ad673754f0730f5d3f3ab78de55d0) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B113CFA7-0C31-412A-85C0-9A87D9F4BB25_zpszmyzesdm.jpg.html)
August 2014 and December 2015
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F5879A582-7944-4026-89D6-49232CF78BFC_zpsvfnte6fa.jpg&hash=ef057dc1e978e925c41872142b0b185a710a58c9) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/5879A582-7944-4026-89D6-49232CF78BFC_zpsvfnte6fa.jpg.html)
December 16th (shows the results of HRT, FFS and breast augmentation)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj142%2FJessie-Ann15%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FBD367CBE-4733-44C3-83FB-8A693F10AC71_zpscouku33q.jpg&hash=060e3c135573f12a03f8aa5b415874d6593250a1) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Jessie-Ann15/media/Mobile%20Uploads/BD367CBE-4733-44C3-83FB-8A693F10AC71_zpscouku33q.jpg.html)
December 2nd Post FFS and BA
I was full time I believe I was passing ok relatively quickly. Once I got my hair colored and styled and I got my makeup skills learned I was very confident in my appearance. The other things that you will need to work on besides your physical appearance is your voice, mannerisms and walking skills. All of those things affect how you are perceived by others. Believe it or not I still get the occasional "sir" comment when someone isn't paying attention because of my size. I can be in a skirt with red lipstick and nails, large hoop earrings, full Smokey Eyes with a plunging neckline blouse showing my 38C boobs and get "sir'd". I laugh when that happens.
Good luck and get ready for the ride of your life.
Hi Jessie
What an amazing change. You are very pretty and it show how happy you are now.
I like you have had some amazing changes. Here is a link to my years.
https://www.pinterest.com/burke1060/the-old-me-over-the-years/
Hug's
Lyndsey
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Jessie Ann on December 28, 2015, 05:29:13 PM
Post by: Jessie Ann on December 28, 2015, 05:29:13 PM
Thanks Lyndsey. I've seen your posts on your transition and it has been amazing. Keep up the good work! Am I correct in assuming that you are also an attorney?
Quote from: Lyndsey on December 28, 2015, 05:19:22 PM
Hi Jessie
What an amazing change. You are very pretty and it show how happy you are now.
I like you have had some amazing changes. Here is a link to my years.
https://www.pinterest.com/burke1060/the-old-me-over-the-years/
Hug's
Lyndsey
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: Jessie Ann on December 28, 2015, 05:36:25 PM
Post by: Jessie Ann on December 28, 2015, 05:36:25 PM
Thank you so much Roxie! I know that once we later in life girls get started there can be no stopping us. I probably could have got by just fine without the FFS but the subtle changes I got from it have been wonderful. I know that many people counsel to wait for a period of time before getting procedures done. For many, if not most, that is very good advice. Because I am a professional and have to meet with the pubic and with attorney's and judges, I did not want to wait that long to have my changes. If I made the right decision or not only time will tell. As of right now I am very glad I did not wait.
Quote from: roxie rudi on December 28, 2015, 02:30:23 AM
Jessie Anne what can I say? You are so gorgeous that I need to start ASAP which for me is mid February. Wow. But I might consider help from FFS too and luckily I have been able to save for various surgeries. Furthermore I live in Australia and Thailand is close by for these.
Title: Re: muscle mass loss and fat re-distribution from HRT in mid forties.
Post by: roxie rudi on December 28, 2015, 06:04:17 PM
Post by: roxie rudi on December 28, 2015, 06:04:17 PM
Thanks again Lyndsey you have been a wonderful fountain of both encouragement and wisdom, which a newbie like myself needs while yourself Jessie Ann is also of great encouragement. Don't worry, I fully intend to give HRT at least 10 months to work its effects on me before undergoing any FFS but no promises regarding GRS/SRS because the thought of having a vagina feels soooo right to me. Yep' SRS, ASAP for me. Given the legal realties here in the antipodes SRS is at least a year away. But I must say that your looks are VERY tempting for FFS Jessie Ann.