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Conservative advocate sues school board over new transgender policy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/conservative-advocate-sues-school-board-over-new-transgender-policy/2015/12/29/6ead36a4-ae50-11e5-b820-eea4d64be2a1_story.html

Washington Post/By  Moriah Balingit December 29 at 8:09 pm

"The leader of a conservative advocacy group is challenging the Fairfax school board's new policy regarding transgender students and staff. (iStock)

The leader of a conservative lobbying group has sued a Virginia school board, challenging the board's move to add protections for transgender students and staff to its nondiscrimination policies."

I don't know whether to laugh at this conservative  group or to just come out and call them a bunch of liars.  In the lawsuit they claim to have found a high school boy, presumedly CIS and straight, who is distressed at the thought of seeing a naked female form.

"In  the suit, the unnamed high school student, called "Jack Doe," described being "terrified of the thought of having to share intimate spaces with students who have the physical features of a girl, seeing such conduct as an invasion of privacy."

Yeah right!!!!!   If they are telling the truth then they need to publish in a scientific journal because they have found something new that has never before existed in nature.

The whole universe needs to collectively stand up and laugh at these conservatives until they slink away in shame.


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I have no doubt the boy would be terrified if he was raised in a conservative, evangelical church. When my son was 5, all of a sudden he was afraid of being seen naked in a locker room; he had to have absolute privacy while taking a shower and it was because of what he was taught in Sunday School. We still don't know exactly what the teacher taught them - no doubt something along the lines of it being sinful to be seen naked or to look upon nakedness. To this day he still wraps a towel around himself to change into a swimsuit at the YMCA, and heaven forbid using a public shower - even with just boys.

Sheesh, when I was in high school gym class swimming was in the buff for everybody - sorry, it was an all boys high school.  But how you satisfy the demands of a small minority in a broader minded, open world, I don't know. 

Or the boy is gay.

Quote from: Dee Marshall on December 30, 2015, 07:01:51 AM
Or the boy is gay.

Maybe.  But would a gay boy be terrified of seeing a female form?  Anyway, if he is gay that becomes the height of hilarity for a conservative advocacy group to defend the right of gay men only to have to look at other naked men.


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Quote from: Dee Marshall on December 30, 2015, 07:01:51 AM
Or the boy is gay.

The article did say the boy was straight. One can only assume he was/is telling the truth.

plus considering the relationship most transgender people have with there bodies, especially early in transision like virtually all high school students will be, I cant imagin there are a ton of trans people who will be running around showing off there bodies. I mean I Only know a half dozen or so trans men in person but not one of them is in the habit of walking into the mens locker room, tearing off there shirt and binder and showing off there bodies like that.

Serena

Quote from: Deborah on December 30, 2015, 01:28:48 AM
"In  the suit, the unnamed high school student, called "Jack Doe," described being "terrified of the thought of having to share intimate spaces with students who have the physical features of a girl, seeing such conduct as an invasion of privacy."

Smacks of the justification for segregation in the Jim Crow era, where white folks were terrified at the thought of having to share spaces with black folk.

Irrespective of the motives of the boy in question, there is a higher question that should be addressed here.

We would all love to be appriciated for whatever version of ourself we would like to portrey. Realistically, that is not always an option.

In these cases where Federal title 9 is involved, something important is being overlooked. 

In public school, we are dealing with children and adolescense, not mature sensible adults. 

If a child decides or questions his birth gender during puberty, AND then insists on being treated as such with the body of their birth.  Society should react gingerly.  Putting an adolescent into the intimate surrounding of the opposite sex DOES NOT make them, members of the opposite sex.  the reduction of anxiety for the individual would seem to be paramount.  However, there are no reliable studies as yet which quantify this.

The bigger question should be the effect on all the members of the opposite sex, who are going to be (possibly) forced to share intimate accomodation with a member of someone not their sex, but who feel they are. 

Adolescent boys and girls both have significant body image issues. Not to mention their adult psyche is just being formed.

Perhaps we need to ask where the greater good actually lies.  With the one or the many?

I am not endorsing any policy here. . .just asking the question, if the greater good is meet with this solution?

My issue is that I just don't believe that either boys or girls will be harmed, even if they see the naked body of a trans person in the locker room.

I do remember being 14 even if that was a while back and I don't remember some horrible fear of nakedness.  My entire family went to a nude beach a few times and there was absolutely no harm.  In case it matters, mine wasn't even a liberal household, it was church going, military, conservative, and Republican.  Yet there was no shame or fear of the body.

Perhaps the sociological question is what is dysfunctional in all these children's upbringings that instills this irrational fear.  I'm pretty sure I know the answer.

And anyway, that's not the common argument against trans bathroom and locker room use anyway.  They argue that we are a physical threat to women and children.  That is simply a defamatory lie and should be fought and exposed for the dishonesty that it is.


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Click on the second in-article link and read the story (the one about two words). Although I could be wrong, I think the article used the wrong pronouns.


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Evangelicals are such sad creatures.  Their lives must be really meaningless to resort to those words when talking about kids.


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it is sad , because their words are in such opposition to Christ's words.