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Title: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: archlord on January 09, 2016, 09:57:56 PM
Yup this just happened . I was at home and bored to have bra and warm top so I decided to take them off like I used to do before to watch A movie . My mother looked at me and said : Elodie what are you doing? You are a lady , cover them up I feel uncomfortable . I said: but mom.. I dont have much breast yet . She said : yes you do . Then she came back with my bathrobe and throwed It at me .

When and how did you realise that you have lost your male privilege and that you cant show the ladies anymore ?
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: stephaniec on January 09, 2016, 10:01:51 PM
I can't anymore I'm a 38 ddd
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Eevee on January 09, 2016, 10:02:53 PM
I never liked being topless around anyone else anyway. It never mattered that I never had breasts before. At most I'll be topless when I'm alone for the sake of comfort.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Ms Grace on January 09, 2016, 10:23:16 PM
Well with cis girls - if they weren't already covering up their pre-puberty nipples when they swam they were the second they started to bud. The very second. It's a silly social thing to treat the female breast so weirdly but it's largely because it has become hyper sexualised. As trans women we can probably get away with a bit longer since there are plenty of genetic cis men who have some degree of moob/man boob. But in non European Western culture a breast is a breast is a breast (or... a boob is a hooter is a bazoomba...)
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Lady_Oracle on January 09, 2016, 10:24:18 PM
Quote from: Eevee on January 09, 2016, 10:02:53 PM
I never liked being topless around anyone else anyway. It never mattered that I never had breasts before. At most I'll be topless when I'm alone for the sake of comfort.

this^ as a child I hated showing my chest around anyone. I think it was like a month, maybe less, when my buds started showing.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Laura_Squirrel on January 09, 2016, 10:28:36 PM
That happened to me at some point in 2011. I don't remember exactly when (It's a long story...that doesn't go in this thread). But, during one of the many late nights when I was spending the night at my parent's house, my mom and I met in the hallway. We were both on our way to the bathroom. She stared at me and whispered: "What the hell are you doing? Go put something on." Since she was headed to the bathroom as well, I decided to go back to the room where I was sleeping and put my top back on.

I didn't think that there had been that much growth. Honestly, I thought I had lost growth. Apparently, that wasn't the case. I haven't bothered to measure anything, though. But, they can't be THAT big. At least they don't seem that way to me.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Ms Grace on January 09, 2016, 10:34:00 PM
Size isn't really the issue - after all, a flat chested, AA or A cup woman is expected to cover up just as much as B, C, D, etc. cup woman is. I've seen adult women at the beach who have no breasts to speak of and yet they are still wearing a bikini top.

Like I said, as soon as it becomes a breast it is expected that it is covered in front of others, and especially in public.

Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Jessie Ann on January 09, 2016, 10:37:38 PM
The minute the judge granted my petition to change my name and gender. Which was 82 days after I started HRT.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: noleen111 on January 10, 2016, 02:47:50 AM
Its got nothing to do with your breast size, it got to do with your nipple area, as soon as your nipples begin swelling and your areola begin to expand and your nipples begin looking female, you need to cover up. This happened for me within the first two weeks of hrt.

For me, I am actually very comfortable being topless and i have been to a beach where topless sunbathing is allowed and I did sunbath topless (I even swam). At home I have a very private area, where I do sunbath topless (I hate tan lines). I do miss being able to just sit on the couch on a hot day without a top on. I now wear a bikini top on these hot days around the house.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: abd789 on January 10, 2016, 04:37:01 AM
I never felt right without a shirt, even when I was thin and basically moobless...but since they have grown (even though Im shrinking bodywise) I wouldnt try it. Also once i started de-hairing regularly they really look like boobies. Im started to have trouble hiding them in clothing now, Id surely not go shirtless, it just doesnt feel right
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Harley Quinn on January 10, 2016, 08:15:15 AM
I want to post, so let me put out a disclaimer...  **I'm a little quirky-I wear long sleeves and long pants to the beach.

I view showing more skin, male or female, as a sexual/sensual act. The only reason to show more skin is to draw more attention to your body. So unless I'm trying to turn them on I keep covered. Breasts make no difference. Pectorals are just as sexual, just more socially acceptable. I am not a prude... I condone showing skin and I will go topless on stage... Actually strip right on down to panties and heels, but again a sexual/sensual response is the goal.

Cheers!
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Sebby Michelango on January 10, 2016, 11:23:45 AM
I'm a guy, but have my story too. Pre-"puberty" and pre-discovering (I'm trans), I sometime went topless without any problem. I realized I couldn't go topless for seriously after my discovering and after I experienced gender dysphoria. I've got some comments by naughty kids before, but I wasn't topless then. In fact these didn't show. Even I played with water guns, they didn't show. The kids just wanted to tease. After estrogen poison, it's been Hell.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: RobynD on January 10, 2016, 11:30:43 AM
I've gone from a B to a 38C this year and my last toplessness was really in 2014. It felt uncomfortable at times long before that, but i would aways be stubborn about it. Early last year, my wife reminded me that i really should not be topless at home in front of others.

Having said that though i do believe top freedom is appropriate in some situations. We have topless/nude beaches not that far from home and her and i did go last summer and our yard is private enough to allow for bare sunbathing etc. In general though i have become more modest about my breasts.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Martine A. on January 10, 2016, 01:53:08 PM
It is individual thing. My example follows...

Myself, I don't want people to see my flat chest. Since full time, I use the privilege of wearing bras all the time. Before that was as much as possible.

In fact that is not a real privilege. Being oppressed for so long, a completely normal thing feels like privilege. Sigh.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: ChasingAlice on January 10, 2016, 05:38:02 PM
Quote from: archlord on January 09, 2016, 09:57:56 PM
Yup this just happened . I was at home and bored to have bra and warm top so I decided to take them off like I used to do before to watch A movie . My mother looked at me and said : Elodie what are you doing? You are a lady , cover them up I feel uncomfortable . I said: but mom.. I dont have much breast yet . She said : yes you do . Then she came back with my bathrobe and throwed It at me .

When and how did you realise that you have lost your male privilege and that you cant show the ladies anymore ?

LOL...i guess you have to have your own place to let the girls out. ;)
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Mallory on January 10, 2016, 05:47:11 PM
No idea what my size is but as soon as they started being a handful I became self conscious and started covering myself.  Maybe 2-3 months in?
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: SofiN on January 11, 2016, 03:29:52 AM
Weirdly enough when puberty first hit me I got really anxious and always covered up even though I would be able to get away with it.

Now I can't even risk that since the budding has begun and they are a little noticeable already without a thick jumper on.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: archlord on January 11, 2016, 07:21:03 AM
in my case it is probably because when i was doing bodybulding it was okay to show my muscles. Since my boobs has begun to growth it seems like they have grown exactly the way my pects were when i was muscular ( like if they took old skin to build) so they just look nothing but pects to my eyes + the buds  and areolas
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Faith Rena on January 11, 2016, 09:52:33 AM
I've asked been self conscious about being topless, but that's because I'm self conscious about my body.. after I begin and finish transitioning it will probably be different. I see myself in a really good form, in my true body, my true self. So, it depends on the occasion for me. Of course, I won't walk around with nothing on. I'll at least have a comfortable bra on, or a small tank top, of I don't want to wear clothes around the house. I can't wait... I have to, and I can, but you know.. Just the vision, confidence, and peace of mind is amazingly calming.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Faith Rena on January 11, 2016, 10:02:58 AM
Always*
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Eva Marie on January 11, 2016, 11:16:58 AM
I've never felt comfortable being topless. Ever.

Boobs are sneaky - you think you don't have any and then you find that someone is staring at your chest. This started happening to me more and more before I presented as female when I would go out braless in a guy t-shirt - I'd get the creepy stares.

Then the braless thing started causing male fails, and shortly after that I went full time  :)
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Beth Andrea on January 11, 2016, 12:02:15 PM
I was always anxious in school PE and waited to be assigned to "skins" or "shirts"... I always hoped to be on the "shirts" team.

As an adult male, I had no problem going shirtless...but about a month after getting on HRT I suddenly started feeling very self-conscious of my newly budding breasts...

I am a lady outdoors, but as soon as I get home (only me and wife reside there) my clothes (yes, all but undies) come off.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: AshleyBeech on January 11, 2016, 02:03:53 PM
Never liked being topless since puberty ( had some gyno) but certainly as Hrt started it was inappropriate as they started developing fast .

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Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: MeghanMe on January 11, 2016, 11:07:34 PM
I wonder how many trans women were uncomfortable going shirtless as children. I know I was. I always had prominent nipples and would get weird stares at times even before I was ready to admit to myself that I was trans. I even remember a conversation in school where I was talking to my (older) professor and he was talking to my chest.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: LivingTheDream on January 12, 2016, 01:57:03 AM
The only time that I would take my shirt off growing up was if I was doing something involving water, swimming for example. I did feel pretty uncomfortable doing so, idk maybe even felt kinda wrong doing it, so right after I was done and usually somewhat dry at least, I would put it back on.

I had mostly guy friends growing up and I know that they would do it if they were playing sports or just hot even. Always seemed weird to me.

I stopped doing it totally when I first decided to start trying hrt (herbals, before I had ANY trans knowledge at all..). I was totally skinny and totally flat, hardly any muscle there even, but to me, it was like, I started on this journey and instantly my mindset changed to its now inappropriate for me to go topless.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Kova V on January 12, 2016, 09:37:36 AM
Quote from: Eva Marie on January 11, 2016, 11:16:58 AM
I've never felt comfortable being topless. Ever.

Boobs are sneaky - you think you don't have any and then you find that someone is staring at your chest. This started happening to me more and more before I presented as female when I would go out braless in a guy t-shirt - I'd get the creepy stares.

Then the braless thing started causing male fails, and shortly after that I went full time  :)

For real, I know this topic is about not going topless, but how about the point you can't go braless anymore! It totally does sneak up on you, and you're like "but there's nothing there" but people look at your chest before looking at your eyes.
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Jacqueline on January 12, 2016, 12:06:21 PM
I never felt comfy topless either. I got used to it for swimming till 5-10 years ago. Then I discovered rash guards. So much more comfortable. I am still presenting male so, they are a life saver.

Joanna
Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: TG CLare on January 12, 2016, 04:47:16 PM
Couldn't do it any more right after the implant surgery. Mind you, I have become a lot more daring. I was on a cruise this winter and came out on my balcony to hang my swim suit on a chair to dry, I was wearing a robe and another ship was moored the other side of the pier.

A fellow was on his balcony with a camera and waved at me so I waved back. He held the camera up and indicated he wanted to take my picture. I pointed to me and he nodded. I made a point of pulling my robe tight around me and he shook his head no and I made out like I was going to open it and he smiled and nodded. So what the hell, not like I'm going to see him again, so I opened it and dropped the robe posed and gave him a show from the waist up because of the metal side. He took the picture, looked at his camera and nodded, blew me a kiss and gave me a thumbs up. I put my robe back on, waved and blew him a kiss and went back inside. Somewhere, someone is showing that picture around but if he only knew I wasn't cis-gender! 

At least I made his day! (lol)

Love,
Clare

Title: Re: The moment where you cant go topless anymore
Post by: Mariah on January 12, 2016, 04:56:21 PM
Once I went full time I didn't, but agree once we start to develop that is truly the point of no return. Hugs
Mariah