Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: T90 on January 16, 2016, 04:53:08 PM Return to Full Version

Title: Inspiration (and a question)
Post by: T90 on January 16, 2016, 04:53:08 PM
I'm sure everyone knows how wonderful it feels to discover someone the same as you, or at least someone who represents the way you feel inside. I was thrilled to discover the singer James Byron the other day, who seems to pass perfectly as female, while making no secret of being male. I feel he (I believe he does use male pronouns) represents where I want to be eventually, essentially a male assigned androgyne, who lives more or less as female. Check him out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phXnbZKHn7k

The question then is this: Although I'm only a couple of sessions into therapy, I feel like I want HRT at some point, even if it was just low dose. The only worry I have there, is that I don't particularly want breasts. If I were to develop them on HRT, would chest/top surgery be available and/or advisable in order to remove them? This is a purely speculative question at this moment in time, but I'd be interested to know. I live in the UK by the way. :)
Title: Re: Inspiration (and a question)
Post by: stephaniec on January 16, 2016, 05:13:37 PM
James Byron ELIMINATED AT THE KNOCKOUTS

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/24mjy4bgTsfqNZWXCV1nXb0/james-byron

BBC/The Voice
Title: Re: Inspiration (and a question)
Post by: Sharon Anne McC on January 16, 2016, 06:13:03 PM

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Correct me if I misunderstand what you are seeking.

Perhaps as an alternative to ERT and ongoing top surgery, maybe you can consider FFS while foregoing ERT and its physical results.  Or a cocktail of spironolactone and / or finasteride to suppress your T.

These are options to discuss with your counselors and physicians.

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Title: Re: Inspiration (and a question)
Post by: Myrrial32 on January 16, 2016, 06:20:15 PM
In his video for Outcry reminds me of the singer from Heart from the 80's. Also I didn't see clearly if he was trans or not, just noted his sound seems to go either way.

Myrrial
Title: Re: Inspiration (and a question)
Post by: Squircle on January 16, 2016, 06:49:20 PM
I kinda think that androgyny is something that you either have or you don't. I don't really see how it would be feasible to use surgery to remove the effects of hrt. At the end of the day, if hrt is strong enough to make any real difference then you will most likely have some breast development.

Even with someone as genetically blessed as James Byron, the point will come where he has to make a decision between transitioning or watching his androgyny fade. It's only usually women who can achieve that androgyny beyond a certain age.

Title: Re: Inspiration (and a question)
Post by: T90 on January 16, 2016, 07:16:55 PM
Quote from: Sharon Anne McC on January 16, 2016, 06:13:03 PM
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Correct me if I misunderstand what you are seeking.

Perhaps as an alternative to ERT and ongoing top surgery, maybe you can consider FFS while foregoing ERT and its physical results.  Or a cocktail of spironolactone and / or finasteride to suppress your T.

These are options to discuss with your counselors and physicians.

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Certainly suppressing my T would be a viable option, but I'm aware I would need some kind of hormone in order to prevent osteoporosis. FFS would also be an option, which would most likely help me to pass along with voice therapy. But if I was going that far then it would perhaps be as well just to not worry about any breast growth.

This is all supposition of course, and like I said, I'm only in the early days of therapy. It's perfectly possible that I may eventually decide to go for HRT and be done with it. It's highly unlikely at this point that my dysphoria is ever going to subside to the point where I'd be happy being seen as male, so I dare say the pros would outweigh the cons.
Title: Re: Inspiration (and a question)
Post by: T90 on January 16, 2016, 07:20:58 PM
Quote from: Squircle on January 16, 2016, 06:49:20 PM
I kinda think that androgyny is something that you either have or you don't. I don't really see how it would be feasible to use surgery to remove the effects of hrt. At the end of the day, if hrt is strong enough to make any real difference then you will most likely have some breast development.

Even with someone as genetically blessed as James Byron, the point will come where he has to make a decision between transitioning or watching his androgyny fade. It's only usually women who can achieve that androgyny beyond a certain age.

I do have a pretty androgynous body, in that I'm a 25 year old biological male who's only 5'5 tall, am in the female range for weight (if that's a thing? I'm slender, is what I mean) and has long hair, but I don't think I have a particularly androgynous face. Age would certainly be a worrying factor for me, as even the distant threat of male pattern baldness utterly terrifies me (or indeed the idea of any further masculinisation).

Given that, it's likely that HRT would be the best option for me, and for all I know I might end up perfectly happy with the changes it would make. Who knows? As I said, it was merely a speculative question, and I'll cross the hormone bridge if/when the time comes.  :)
Title: Re: Inspiration (and a question)
Post by: stephaniec on January 16, 2016, 07:22:02 PM
I've always wanted this, but I'm finding each day I'm on HRT the more sure and excited about the changes.
Title: Re: Inspiration (and a question)
Post by: T90 on January 16, 2016, 07:23:21 PM
Quote from: stephaniec on January 16, 2016, 07:22:02 PM
I've always wanted this, but I'm finding each day I'm on HRT the more sure and excited about the changes.

Low dose could be enough for me to begin to feel the same way. The fact that I'm terrified of becoming more masculine is probably enough of an indicator for me to go for HRT if/when it was offered.