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Title: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: archlord on January 17, 2016, 06:12:58 PM
Post by: archlord on January 17, 2016, 06:12:58 PM
Damnnnn! i was sorting folders and pictures on my computer as it looks like a mess then i came accross a folder where i had pictures of my full body with only panties 1 week before HRT.
OMG!!! i just cant believe it!? 3 month?! WTF seriously this is crazy.
i am not going to share here because it is not allowed and it is very personnal but... there is hope and things are really happening!
Keep believing girls you will be amazed and you wont recognize yourself later, believe me.
my hips, my boobs, the size of my areolas, my muscles, my butt , my FACE . like.. i cant recognize this guy on picture , it looks like if i had a brother
just woww.
OMG!!! i just cant believe it!? 3 month?! WTF seriously this is crazy.
i am not going to share here because it is not allowed and it is very personnal but... there is hope and things are really happening!
Keep believing girls you will be amazed and you wont recognize yourself later, believe me.
my hips, my boobs, the size of my areolas, my muscles, my butt , my FACE . like.. i cant recognize this guy on picture , it looks like if i had a brother
just woww.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: stephaniec on January 17, 2016, 06:18:05 PM
Post by: stephaniec on January 17, 2016, 06:18:05 PM
congrats
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: archlord on January 17, 2016, 09:05:07 PM
Post by: archlord on January 17, 2016, 09:05:07 PM
Yep, we dont see the changes because we see always see ourself and they are happening gradually but THEY ARE HAPPENING. like.... i am stunned :icon_walk:
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: Mallory on January 18, 2016, 12:18:25 AM
Post by: Mallory on January 18, 2016, 12:18:25 AM
YMMV. :) I'm a little bit further in, but I lack a clean diet, I have a way higher body fat percentage, and I use tobacco (not for long). And I'm older! Ugh.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: sparrow on January 18, 2016, 12:27:04 AM
Post by: sparrow on January 18, 2016, 12:27:04 AM
I kinda wanted to take a picture of my naked body daily, since I've always appreciated that kind of long-term art project. Ultimately, I didn't for lack of a good camera. Now, I really wish I had -- when I see my old face, with exception of my gnarly facial hair, I look like the same guy. :/
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: rikki88 on January 18, 2016, 12:28:49 AM
Post by: rikki88 on January 18, 2016, 12:28:49 AM
Congrats! I did the same I took some pre hrt pictures just so I can see how much has changed once I'm down the road a bit. I can't wait!
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: Jalynn on January 18, 2016, 03:12:23 AM
Post by: Jalynn on January 18, 2016, 03:12:23 AM
I am so happy for you and it has to be a really good boost for your confidence. It makes things so much easier. Since starting hrt I made so many positive changes. Cut right down on sugar besides apples, fruits etc. I forgot to read the label when I bought some slim fast shakes last week and they are full of sugar. They were like a desert treat. No more bread type foods. Not sure how long I can last but I really want it to. I want a super slim tummy. Found a GPS walking app for the cell phone. Walked 14km/8.7miles is 2 hours and that is a somewhat typical walk in the city. Sad part is I am not really losing any weight at all. The belly weight seems to be coming off from the top of the ribs working its way down. I think I have more weight on my chest now. Sometimes I even can feel hitting it with the side of my arm and can cup them with my hands where I can feel weight. I am also thinking that the very sides of the bum are filling out.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: archlord on January 18, 2016, 09:13:13 AM
Post by: archlord on January 18, 2016, 09:13:13 AM
Yeah i however did contrary about weight haha. I dropped my weight and fat to like 148 lbs/ 8% 1 week before HRT ( i looked uber skinny compared to last may oh my god) then once i started hormones i couldnt refrain myself from the heavy cravings. I went up to 21.5% bodyfat in like 2 month. The before/after picture is impressive . I am currently trying to condition me to eat right and follow my diet
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: Jenna Marie on January 18, 2016, 10:53:52 AM
Post by: Jenna Marie on January 18, 2016, 10:53:52 AM
I took those sorts of pictures weekly for the first year. It was awful in the beginning (and I still flinch seeing the earliest photos), but it was a huge help whenever I felt like nothing was happening. :)
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: RobynD on January 18, 2016, 11:24:27 AM
Post by: RobynD on January 18, 2016, 11:24:27 AM
It really is amazing to me too. i was doing similar comparisons the other day. All of this from a couple of pills every day :)
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: Deborah on January 18, 2016, 11:58:24 AM
Post by: Deborah on January 18, 2016, 11:58:24 AM
Here is me after a year. I still need to lose about 20 more lbs but things are coming along more than I realized before I took the picture.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff341%2Fdebbie7571%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FB80132EA-0075-484B-AEF0-D518A6E8DE4C_zpss7hfwpjn.jpg&hash=29f88f970c681c883a84be0cd03fe4837b734d72) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/debbie7571/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B80132EA-0075-484B-AEF0-D518A6E8DE4C_zpss7hfwpjn.jpg.html)
The thing about losing weight and diet now is that I'm in unknown territory. Before HRT I knew my body well and how to tune it with diet and exercise. It's all working differently now so is like a big experiment.
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff341%2Fdebbie7571%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FB80132EA-0075-484B-AEF0-D518A6E8DE4C_zpss7hfwpjn.jpg&hash=29f88f970c681c883a84be0cd03fe4837b734d72) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/debbie7571/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B80132EA-0075-484B-AEF0-D518A6E8DE4C_zpss7hfwpjn.jpg.html)
The thing about losing weight and diet now is that I'm in unknown territory. Before HRT I knew my body well and how to tune it with diet and exercise. It's all working differently now so is like a big experiment.
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Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: itsApril on January 18, 2016, 06:52:09 PM
Post by: itsApril on January 18, 2016, 06:52:09 PM
Quote from: archlord on January 17, 2016, 06:12:58 PM
my hips, my boobs, the size of my areolas, my muscles, my butt , my FACE . like.. i cant recognize this guy on picture , it looks like if i had a brother
just woww.
HRT kinda sneaks up on you, huh?
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: ChasingAlice on January 18, 2016, 09:06:54 PM
Post by: ChasingAlice on January 18, 2016, 09:06:54 PM
Quote from: archlord on January 17, 2016, 06:12:58 PM
Damnnnn! i was sorting folders and pictures on my computer as it looks like a mess then i came accross a folder where i had pictures of my full body with only panties 1 week before HRT.
OMG!!! i just cant believe it!? 3 month?! WTF seriously this is crazy.
i am not going to share here because it is not allowed and it is very personnal but... there is hope and things are really happening!
Keep believing girls you will be amazed and you wont recognize yourself later, believe me.
my hips, my boobs, the size of my areolas, my muscles, my butt , my FACE . like.. i cant recognize this guy on picture , it looks like if i had a brother
just woww.
I took a photo in my bikinis after a shower last week to compare for later. I also took many measurements of various areas. I thought it would come in handy and it seems that it will be. I will be doing monthly shots. I think that it will be super neat to compare later.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: MichaelaLJ1972 on January 19, 2016, 07:48:29 AM
Post by: MichaelaLJ1972 on January 19, 2016, 07:48:29 AM
I have to agree that figuring out proper diet and exercise since starting HRT has been difficult. I definitely can't get away with my old eating habits, but the problem is, the damn cravings! I try to exercise at least 60 minutes each day. That USED to be fine. I could maintain my weight and be somewhat happy with how I looked. Maybe I'm still too early in, but it seems too much of my fat or weight is settling in the "pooch" area. I've never had that problem before. But a lot of people have been telling me that they noticed my butt getting bigger and more jiggly ;) It's all so gradual that it's hard for me to really notice I guess. I think other people can be much better judges of our progress.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: Kova V on January 19, 2016, 08:55:41 AM
Post by: Kova V on January 19, 2016, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: archlord on January 18, 2016, 09:13:13 AM
Yeah i however did contrary about weight haha. I dropped my weight and fat to like 148 lbs/ 8% 1 week before HRT ( i looked uber skinny compared to last may oh my god) then once i started hormones i couldnt refrain myself from the heavy cravings. I went up to 21.5% bodyfat in like 2 month. The before/after picture is impressive . I am currently trying to condition me to eat right and follow my diet
Yes, the cravings were/are the one thing I didn't expect. I'm addicted to milk, olives and pickles. My ex (now house-mate) says its like I'm pregnant. I'm always hungry.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: sparrow on January 19, 2016, 10:06:55 PM
Post by: sparrow on January 19, 2016, 10:06:55 PM
I've recently gotten back into the habit of eating three squares a day. I can't tell if my appetite is bigger because of the hormones (I always hope that it's the girls growing!) or because I'm actually eating right and my stomach isn't all cranky all the time.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: Jalynn on January 20, 2016, 03:05:10 AM
Post by: Jalynn on January 20, 2016, 03:05:10 AM
I have always luvd dill pickles still wont touch the other sweet ones though. A jar of baby dills doesn't even last a couple days now. I don't think there is any downside, they don't have any fat or many calories. Have had invisalign braces for a couple weeks now and they have majorly changed what I eat drink also.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: archlord on January 21, 2016, 05:08:32 PM
Post by: archlord on January 21, 2016, 05:08:32 PM
Ok so.... I took my new measurements . Woww this confirmed what I saw on my comparison pictures.
I am now 37/28/39 !
My chest went from 42( muscles ) to 35 then to 37 with breast tissues . My waist went from 27.5 to 28 and my hips went from 36 to 39 !!! Wow
I am now 37/28/39 !
My chest went from 42( muscles ) to 35 then to 37 with breast tissues . My waist went from 27.5 to 28 and my hips went from 36 to 39 !!! Wow
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: Jalynn on January 22, 2016, 01:44:12 AM
Post by: Jalynn on January 22, 2016, 01:44:12 AM
I jut copied this from a website. It says it is the calculation for the ideal female body. I was elated when I did it. Just have to lose tummy.
The 3 step process to measuring your body
To calculate your ideal proportions, follow the 3 step proccess below:
Step 1) Determine your ideal waist circumference
Ideal waist circumference = height x 0.382 "Height in total inches"
Note: Taken at most narrow point below ribs.
Step 2) Determine your ideal shoulder circumference
Ideal shoulder circumference = ideal waist circumference x 1.618
Note: Taken at widest point in shoulders.
Step 3) Determine your ideal hip circumference
Ideal hip circumference = ideal waist circumference x 1.42
Note: Taken at widest point where butt sticks out.
The 3 step process to measuring your body
To calculate your ideal proportions, follow the 3 step proccess below:
Step 1) Determine your ideal waist circumference
Ideal waist circumference = height x 0.382 "Height in total inches"
Note: Taken at most narrow point below ribs.
Step 2) Determine your ideal shoulder circumference
Ideal shoulder circumference = ideal waist circumference x 1.618
Note: Taken at widest point in shoulders.
Step 3) Determine your ideal hip circumference
Ideal hip circumference = ideal waist circumference x 1.42
Note: Taken at widest point where butt sticks out.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: archlord on January 22, 2016, 07:48:21 AM
Post by: archlord on January 22, 2016, 07:48:21 AM
I tried it Jalynn and this is real science :icon_yes:
according to this
-my ideal waist should be height 5.58ft / 67 inch , 67x 0,382 = 25.59 inch waist . ( i am 28inch and fat) I was planning to drop my waist to 26 inch so this proves me my goal is possible .
- ideal shoulder circumference : 26inch x 1.618 = 42 inch ( i am 44 inch but my shoulders are still to muscular.. oh well i was a bodybuilder)
- ideal hip circumferance = 26inch x 1.42 = 37 inch ( unsure about this one, my hips doesnt look that wide at 39 inch .. maybe if i drop the waist it will look better?) still it is balanced with my shoulders
according to this
-my ideal waist should be height 5.58ft / 67 inch , 67x 0,382 = 25.59 inch waist . ( i am 28inch and fat) I was planning to drop my waist to 26 inch so this proves me my goal is possible .
- ideal shoulder circumference : 26inch x 1.618 = 42 inch ( i am 44 inch but my shoulders are still to muscular.. oh well i was a bodybuilder)
- ideal hip circumferance = 26inch x 1.42 = 37 inch ( unsure about this one, my hips doesnt look that wide at 39 inch .. maybe if i drop the waist it will look better?) still it is balanced with my shoulders
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: Deborah on January 22, 2016, 08:44:48 AM
Post by: Deborah on January 22, 2016, 08:44:48 AM
According to that my ideal waist is under 27". I think demons will be having snowball fights in hell before I can get that small.
But it is a target to work towards. :-)
Sapere Aude
But it is a target to work towards. :-)
Sapere Aude
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: Jalynn on January 23, 2016, 02:50:46 AM
Post by: Jalynn on January 23, 2016, 02:50:46 AM
You probably know this but female waist line is measured up around belly button except low rise jeans I think. Guys waist line is measured lower. It told me I should be 28.25in around the waist. That is impossible around the pelvis for me. I think 32in is close to the minimum for me. Up near the belly button I think 28.25in is possible. I will try hard to get there. I walked/jogged 20 miles today in 5hr45 min. I don't think looking emaciated is a good look or healthy. Would rather an extra inch or 2 and look more mildly athletic. Long way to go. The shoulder measurement made me the happiest. Thought I would be too wide but am an inch under so far.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: archlord on January 23, 2016, 06:24:47 AM
Post by: archlord on January 23, 2016, 06:24:47 AM
Exactly the reason why I always was inconfortable in men jeans. I always wore jogging pants . My "male " waist Line is 33.5 while my female waist Line is 28. I actually never measured my waist at the standard male location because I dont have one . It felt natural to take it higher then the belly even before HRT . The only pants I could wear was jeans from Guess/ black bull but my GF was complaining It made my lower body feminine
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: Briezy on January 23, 2016, 07:57:51 AM
Post by: Briezy on January 23, 2016, 07:57:51 AM
It's exciting to hear such results. I am finally beginning HRT in a couple of weeks and I am very excited. 42 years old and I feel like I'm just being born.
First post. Hi all!
First post. Hi all!
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: RavenMoon on January 24, 2016, 06:08:09 PM
Post by: RavenMoon on January 24, 2016, 06:08:09 PM
Don't forget that a cis female has a wider pelvis and longer torso. So it's hard for most of us to match "ideal" measurements.
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Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: RavenMoon on January 24, 2016, 06:11:12 PM
Post by: RavenMoon on January 24, 2016, 06:11:12 PM
Quote from: Kova V on January 19, 2016, 08:55:41 AM
Yes, the cravings were/are the one thing I didn't expect. I'm addicted to milk, olives and pickles. My ex (now house-mate) says its like I'm pregnant. I'm always hungry.
You know, milk causes inflammation. Milk, by design, encourages rapid growth in animals through the naturally occurring presence of hormones, which suggests it could be deleterious to humans over the course of their life span.
D-galactose in milk is known to induce aging in animals, and is linked to increased oxidative stress and inflammation.
Even cows stop drinking milk after a certain age. Same with breast fed humans.
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Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: Jalynn on January 24, 2016, 07:06:35 PM
Post by: Jalynn on January 24, 2016, 07:06:35 PM
What is your opinion of a good trans diet? I take it that a lot of milk products is a no no. I tried Greek yogurt yesterday fat free low sugar. Wasn't the biggest fan of it but was okay mixing berries in. I am not in a place where I cook much at the moment so I keep it simple. Iceberg salad with zesty Italian, pickles,cucumbers, mini carrots with light ranch. Not so much carrots lately because I can taste the plastic bag they come in. Apples, black berries, raspberries, oranges, pineapple,mini watermelon . I usually go with whats on sale for the week. Lean ham, store cooked chicken, smoked fish, mixed nuts. Fast food I order Chinese, chicken chop suey, beef and broccoli, rice. I get a 40g protein shake to skip a meal on long walks. Drink water and sugar free energy drinks. I bought a small block of Havarti cheese the other day. Must be a bad thing because it didn't last long and tasted as good as candy. This has been my entire diet for about a month now besides one shameful cheat day and supplements. Am avoiding any bread or pasta type foods. I am trying hard to lose weight and have a super lean tummy. Any advice is so appreciated.
P.S Arch you new avatar pic is very pretty. I think the best pic of yours so far. Wish you had a nicer sounding name than Archlord though lol
P.S Arch you new avatar pic is very pretty. I think the best pic of yours so far. Wish you had a nicer sounding name than Archlord though lol
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: archlord on January 24, 2016, 07:20:04 PM
Post by: archlord on January 24, 2016, 07:20:04 PM
Haha . My name is Elodie if you prefer It to Archlord . Archlord used to be my favorite MMORPG younger when I was using games to cope ;p
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: KayXo on January 25, 2016, 08:53:51 AM
Post by: KayXo on January 25, 2016, 08:53:51 AM
I think it's critical to include fat in one's diet. We have unfortunately been told lies about saturated fat being bad, you need just examine in details the studies and you will see for yourself. Fat is required for many functions in the body, cholesterol is also critical for cells. Fat is also satiating and contrary to popular belief, more fat, less carbs = weight loss not weight gain. The documentation on that is extensive and VERY convincing.
Check out Gary Taubes, Jeff Volek, Mary Enig, Sally Fallon, Peter Attia, Stephen Phinney, Zoe Harcombe, Anthony Colpo, Nina Teicholz, Cholesterol Skeptics site, Vilhjalmur Stefansson, Robert Atkins.
Check out Gary Taubes, Jeff Volek, Mary Enig, Sally Fallon, Peter Attia, Stephen Phinney, Zoe Harcombe, Anthony Colpo, Nina Teicholz, Cholesterol Skeptics site, Vilhjalmur Stefansson, Robert Atkins.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: BellaAntigone on January 25, 2016, 09:01:53 AM
Post by: BellaAntigone on January 25, 2016, 09:01:53 AM
This prompted me to look at some pre-HRT pictures (started a year ago), holy cow! Now I just have to eliminate every previous picture of me....
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: Kova V on January 25, 2016, 01:49:25 PM
Post by: Kova V on January 25, 2016, 01:49:25 PM
Quote from: RavenMoon on January 24, 2016, 06:11:12 PM
You know, milk causes inflammation. Milk, by design, encourages rapid growth in animals through the naturally occurring presence of hormones, which suggests it could be deleterious to humans over the course of their life span.
D-galactose in milk is known to induce aging in animals, and is linked to increased oxidative stress and inflammation.
Even cows stop drinking milk after a certain age. Same with breast fed humans.
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I litterally drink about a gallon of milk a day, no joke. But I also have the genes to process it.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: KarynMcD on January 25, 2016, 02:14:07 PM
Post by: KarynMcD on January 25, 2016, 02:14:07 PM
Quote from: RavenMoon on January 24, 2016, 06:08:09 PMFor a given height, on average, they will have a shorter torso and longer legs
Don't forget that a cis female has a wider pelvis and longer torso.
Title: Re: damn! HRT is a crazy thing. I cant believe what ive seen.
Post by: WallabyWallop on January 25, 2016, 02:46:08 PM
Post by: WallabyWallop on January 25, 2016, 02:46:08 PM
Wow, that's really amazing Archlord! I'm so glad you've had such success with the therapy!