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Title: Pain-free permanent hair removal - SHR
Post by: JessicaSondelli on January 30, 2016, 05:33:54 PM
Post by: JessicaSondelli on January 30, 2016, 05:33:54 PM
Have u girls heard about this new method of Pain-free permanent hair removal? Anybody tried this yet?
It almost sounds too good to be true!
http://essencebodyworks.com.au/painless-laser-hair-reduction
-Jessie
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It almost sounds too good to be true!
http://essencebodyworks.com.au/painless-laser-hair-reduction
-Jessie
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Title: Re: Pain-free permanent hair removal - SHR
Post by: Maybebaby56 on January 30, 2016, 06:05:53 PM
Post by: Maybebaby56 on January 30, 2016, 06:05:53 PM
Well, I found this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4115894/. Notice it is from 2012. If it were that great, you would think it would be more common.
Comparison of SHR Mode IPL System with Alexandrite and Nd: YAG Lasers For Leg Hair Reduction
Şemsettin Karaca, Seval Doğruk Kaçar, and Pınar Ozuğuz
Multiple lasers and light sources are currently available for hair removal and many studies comparing efficacy and safety exist. SHR mode IPL is a technique that gives the total energy in divided doses with fewer side effects. We compared a SHR mode IPL system with alexandrite and Nd: YAG lasers for leg hair reduction
Material and Methods:
Twenty-five female participants with skin types II–IV, underwent treatment of unwanted hair on the cruris. Three selected areas were randomly treated with the SHR mode IPL system, Alexandrite laser and Nd: YAG laser in three sessions. Hair reduction was evaluated with digital photography by a blinded assessor every 6 weeks and 6 months after the last session. Pain severity, side effects and patient satisfaction analysis were also investigated.
Results:
Twenty-one participants completed the trial. The mean hair reductions in 6 weeks after the last treatment were 50% for the IPL system, 53% for Alexandrite and 39% for the Nd: YAG lasers. However after 6 months; 40%, 49% and 34% hair reduction was observed, respectively. The Alexandrite laser was the least painful system.
Conclusion:
Although there is no obvious advantage of the SHR mode IPL system over the others in terms of treatment outcome, the Alexandrate laser is still the most efficient and painless light source in comparison with the Nd: YAG and IPL of the SHR mode. Despite the continuous efforts for the development of new laser systems in permanent hair removal with a minimal number of session, we can state that there is as yet no developed safe and efficient light source that meets the expectations.
And this was buried in the conclusions:
Cold packs, the least effective type of cooling, are used in this study without any topical anesthesia, to objectively evaluate pain. The results were similar to literature findings, pointing to the Alexandrite laser as the most painless system, despite the contact cooling system attached to the IPL probe. Furthermore, pain scores with IPL were nearly equal to pain scores for the Nd: YAG laser. This is a conflicting result as the SHR mode IPL is thought to have the advantage of less pain and side effects.
The low number of participants and the treatment sessions can be accepted as our limitations as well as not determining the maximum tolerated dose. The usage of a device with three systems in one platform can also be regarded as a limitation.
~Terri
Comparison of SHR Mode IPL System with Alexandrite and Nd: YAG Lasers For Leg Hair Reduction
Şemsettin Karaca, Seval Doğruk Kaçar, and Pınar Ozuğuz
Multiple lasers and light sources are currently available for hair removal and many studies comparing efficacy and safety exist. SHR mode IPL is a technique that gives the total energy in divided doses with fewer side effects. We compared a SHR mode IPL system with alexandrite and Nd: YAG lasers for leg hair reduction
Material and Methods:
Twenty-five female participants with skin types II–IV, underwent treatment of unwanted hair on the cruris. Three selected areas were randomly treated with the SHR mode IPL system, Alexandrite laser and Nd: YAG laser in three sessions. Hair reduction was evaluated with digital photography by a blinded assessor every 6 weeks and 6 months after the last session. Pain severity, side effects and patient satisfaction analysis were also investigated.
Results:
Twenty-one participants completed the trial. The mean hair reductions in 6 weeks after the last treatment were 50% for the IPL system, 53% for Alexandrite and 39% for the Nd: YAG lasers. However after 6 months; 40%, 49% and 34% hair reduction was observed, respectively. The Alexandrite laser was the least painful system.
Conclusion:
Although there is no obvious advantage of the SHR mode IPL system over the others in terms of treatment outcome, the Alexandrate laser is still the most efficient and painless light source in comparison with the Nd: YAG and IPL of the SHR mode. Despite the continuous efforts for the development of new laser systems in permanent hair removal with a minimal number of session, we can state that there is as yet no developed safe and efficient light source that meets the expectations.
And this was buried in the conclusions:
Cold packs, the least effective type of cooling, are used in this study without any topical anesthesia, to objectively evaluate pain. The results were similar to literature findings, pointing to the Alexandrite laser as the most painless system, despite the contact cooling system attached to the IPL probe. Furthermore, pain scores with IPL were nearly equal to pain scores for the Nd: YAG laser. This is a conflicting result as the SHR mode IPL is thought to have the advantage of less pain and side effects.
The low number of participants and the treatment sessions can be accepted as our limitations as well as not determining the maximum tolerated dose. The usage of a device with three systems in one platform can also be regarded as a limitation.
~Terri
Title: Re: Pain-free permanent hair removal - SHR
Post by: Martine A. on January 30, 2016, 11:19:09 PM
Post by: Martine A. on January 30, 2016, 11:19:09 PM
The above article puzzled me a little, because I thought alexandrite light can also be delivered in SHR mode. I reevaluated what it is that they currently use for my facial hair. This is the machine they have got:
http://www.almalasers.com/us/harmony_xl_technologies_SHR.jsp
It is something called 'Advanced Fluorescence Technology' (AFT), which has its SHR mode (http://www.almalasers.com/sites/default/files/media/pdf/specs/harmonyxl_specs.pdf). Maybe I am just too lazy to find any comparison between alexandrite and AFT. Maybe next time I will request one alexandrite session and observe the differences. I can compare because for every session I have before-after in sharp focused full frame 36 megapixels.
The reason they switched to SHR AFT is that on my first alexandrite session I got a nasty burn. For which I actually blame and had fired the therapist, although I do know I do have an overly sensitive body in general. :angel:
With SHR AFT, face redness goes away [for me] in two hours tops. With single beam shots, it was there for about two days.
Beside that, I wrote about SHR AFT before:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,203152.msg1807540.html#msg1807540
In summary, I am currently using SHR AFT for my face and results are slow for which I blame the therapist.
Why I can vouch SHR AFT works is that initially I gave it test with my hands. It didn't really work until I found a person who knew how to use it. One single good session annihilated over half of my hand hair. Taken the previous ones were bad, that would be the first proper session ever. I still observe little hair return after 6 months, but it will inevitably return I guess. Unfortunately, I got only one shot with that person, so I stopped going to that place. If I could only have three or four more such sessions. Life sucks sometimes.
Another thing I can vouch for [per above], SHR AFT is generally worthless without good hands to operate it.
http://www.almalasers.com/us/harmony_xl_technologies_SHR.jsp
It is something called 'Advanced Fluorescence Technology' (AFT), which has its SHR mode (http://www.almalasers.com/sites/default/files/media/pdf/specs/harmonyxl_specs.pdf). Maybe I am just too lazy to find any comparison between alexandrite and AFT. Maybe next time I will request one alexandrite session and observe the differences. I can compare because for every session I have before-after in sharp focused full frame 36 megapixels.
The reason they switched to SHR AFT is that on my first alexandrite session I got a nasty burn. For which I actually blame and had fired the therapist, although I do know I do have an overly sensitive body in general. :angel:
With SHR AFT, face redness goes away [for me] in two hours tops. With single beam shots, it was there for about two days.
Beside that, I wrote about SHR AFT before:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,203152.msg1807540.html#msg1807540
In summary, I am currently using SHR AFT for my face and results are slow for which I blame the therapist.
Why I can vouch SHR AFT works is that initially I gave it test with my hands. It didn't really work until I found a person who knew how to use it. One single good session annihilated over half of my hand hair. Taken the previous ones were bad, that would be the first proper session ever. I still observe little hair return after 6 months, but it will inevitably return I guess. Unfortunately, I got only one shot with that person, so I stopped going to that place. If I could only have three or four more such sessions. Life sucks sometimes.
Another thing I can vouch for [per above], SHR AFT is generally worthless without good hands to operate it.