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I know the common answer when talking about "natural" breast growth is your mileage may vary, but I'm curious how many women on here have personally experienced, or know other women that have exceeded the 1 cup size smaller than your mom/sister belief?

The women in my family are average size C/D cup, but I've read some on here that say they got their breast growth gene from their dad's side of the family.

Also, I'm curious what life with larger breasts is like? What are some of the difficulties that you have experienced if you have larger than expected breasts?

I can only really speak to the obvious; bras and shirts will be harder to come by. You'll also dwarf your hips/booty (as most of us have narrow hips to begin with). An inverted triangle body type will be more pronounced having a large ribcage and large breasts. You will also be attracting a lot more attention on the streets.

Before a modest BA, I topped out at one cup size larger than any of my cis relatives.  There was a final growth spurt when I added P to my cocktail of pills.

How would you ladies describe having breasts? Does it feel the way you imagined it would? Better? Worse? Do you find yourself getting aroused by having your breasts played with?

For those who are a C cup or larger, what was the biggest shock to you with having larger breasts? stress on your back? clumsy bumping your boobs into things?

Quote from: Adchop on February 01, 2016, 11:04:59 PM
How would you ladies describe having breasts? Does it feel the way you imagined it would? Better? Worse? Do you find yourself getting aroused by having your breasts played with?

For those who are a C cup or larger, what was the biggest shock to you with having larger breasts? stress on your back? clumsy bumping your boobs into things?

Having bewbs is whatever. They just hang there. Don't even think about them half the time. Tbqh, I really didn't care much about bewb growth before, just wanted the other effects from hrt. Had you asked me last month, I would have said I felt worst, because I still live as a boy,and it's become quite an inconvenience to have to hide them everyday;I truly don't know how I will survive the summer, because recently they started rounding out at the bottom. Whats changed my mind is that just recently, I discovered that if I touch my nipples, despite how sensitive they feel, that I can easily get aroused. Tried it this past weekend for about 10 minutes, bewbs felt numb and weird, nipples felt super warm, laid on my stomach after, probably the most pleasurable feeling I've had in my upper body, ever. Just the way the numb fat feels under the nipple, OMG.  :laugh:

I must admit I love my breasts. I love taking a shower and soaping up my body and feeling these mounds protruding from my chest. they truly are a dream come true. I love the need for a bra an actual need. I love seeing my body inside a dress the way it's meant to fit. I love holding and messaging them with soreness and all. My older sister had quite ample breasts and my younger sister not so ample so I'll probable end up inbween the way things have turned out. I'm at a DDD.

Mine don't really feel any different than they did before.  They do look different but 90+ percent of the time I don't notice or think about them at all.


Sapere Aude

Quote from: Dankster on February 02, 2016, 01:39:27 AM
Having bewbs is whatever. They just hang there. Don't even think about them half the time. Tbqh, I really didn't care much about bewb growth before, just wanted the other effects from hrt. Had you asked me last month, I would have said I felt worst, because I still live as a boy,and it's become quite an inconvenience to have to hide them everyday;I truly don't know how I will survive the summer, because recently they started rounding out at the bottom. Whats changed my mind is that just recently, I discovered that if I touch my nipples, despite how sensitive they feel, that I can easily get aroused. Tried it this past weekend for about 10 minutes, bewbs felt numb and weird, nipples felt super warm, laid on my stomach after, probably the most pleasurable feeling I've had in my upper body, ever. Just the way the numb fat feels under the nipple, OMG.  :laugh:

Hi, thanks for replying.

I'm planning to still present myself as man as well. What did you find was the most difficult about it? How much growth have you had so far(If it's ok that I ask)? Do you use a sports bra? Compression shirt? The arousal part you mentioned is super interesting to me. I really hope to get a large set of breasts (Though the cautious side of me screams NO!). I know from what I have seen, some cis women prefer boob play, but some could care less. Just curious if the arousal that I have imagined in my dreams is as nice in real life.

Dana

I have 36D cup breasts. when you have larger breasts, a good bra is very important. A good bra gives you the necessary support and you then little back issues. I love my breasts and I am very happy how they turned out. I still love wearing bra and I love the fact that I must a wear a bra and my flesh fill the cups. I love to wear outfits that show off my cleavage. Also important (and not just women with big breasts), wear the right bra size. you will be surprised how many cis-women wear the incorrect bra size. Go for a professional fitting, I went and it turned out my cup and band size was wrong. A bra that fits right, its very comfortable and you barely feel its there.

All the women in my family are big breasted, DD and up, except my mother, she is also a D Cup, but she wears a 34D, so my breasts are technically bigger.

this is what is scaring me the most with transition..  Like  most transwoman wont reach more then A or small B cup but there are exceptions who get huge boobs.... Also most transwoman end with larger breast due to size of ribcage/chest , they look small and out of shape + to spaced.   This is the reason i am getting breast implants  in 13 days( for the shape not the size )  but i am worried that i may get breast growth larger then expected ( my mother was 32DD,  however my sister is A at 20 year old) .   I want to end with a good looking D/DD cup  but not with  more.  This is a risk i take and i may require to remove the implants in a couple years ...anyway it is my decision...  i take the chance

Massage and progesterone for the best results with best shape.  (contentious issues)

Mine are in B cup territory now and sometimes I wear pads to bring them into C cup territory. When I do that suddenly my tops are too short and the ones that button tend to gap across the bustline. I've got a female friend that is a D cup and she complains about bra straps cutting her and chronic back problems because of the weight of them. These are some of the problems that busty gals have to deal with all of the time.

I have known trans women that have grown larger than average but it seems to be a fairly rare occurrence.

Quote from: Deborah on February 02, 2016, 03:58:19 AM
Mine don't really feel any different than they did before.  They do look different but 90+ percent of the time I don't notice or think about them at all.


Sapere Aude

Are pre-op or post-op?

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I'm there and i did not expect such rapid results. I went from a large A to a full C cup. Even losing an inch on my band size because of working out and fat redistribution.

I'm seeing the same gaps on some of my tops. Many of my smaller bras are now uncomfortable, so I have had to buy new ones. I'm starting to wonder if they will expand more. I'm not complaining but it was not really expecting it, because at my age it was said, the results would be more modest.

Quote from: luanneph on February 02, 2016, 10:10:19 AM
Are pre-op or post-op?

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Pre-op with a year HRT.


Sapere Aude

Quote from: Deborah on February 02, 2016, 10:11:25 AM
Pre-op with a year HRT.


Sapere Aude

Just give it some time Deborah.  I have a friend who on HRT for 5 years, and begin to see the change until year 4. I think it takes some time to bringing your Testosterone levels down and bringing level estrogen up. She said it take five years and 8 month to bring her hormone under control. Now she's ready for her surgery.

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Quote from: archlord on February 02, 2016, 09:29:14 AM
i am getting breast implants  in 13 days... ...This is a risk i take and i may require to remove the implants in a couple years

Hey, I fully realize I have a better chance at Todd English asking me out than I do at changing your mind at this point, but I would be remiss if I didn't say that I really, REALLY, REALLY wish you would reconsider this decision at less than 4 months HRT.

It's not that I'm saying "you should wait because you may end up with very nice C-D cups in a couple of years!".  No, that's not it... at your size, it's almost impossible and I understand the desire/need to have larger breasts than HRT can ever truly afford.  It's that I feel a more natural result and look will be achieved if you wait.  The more breast tissue you have to begin with, the better things will look once you get them augmented... I'm just worried you'll have that two-bolted-on-grapefruits look :embarrassed:

...and please please don't take this the wrong way, but judging by all your other posts and whatnot, you're the very impatient type; that can sometimes make for rash decisions.  I'm so sorry if I seem all preachy, but I really do care Elodie.


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Quote from: luanneph on February 02, 2016, 10:24:57 AMShe said it take five years and 8 month to bring her hormone under control.

This isn't normal... it should take months, not years, much less five ???

Quote from: Ⓥ on February 02, 2016, 09:33:19 PM
Hey, I fully realize I have a better chance at Todd English asking me out than I do at changing your mind at this point, but I would be remiss if I didn't say that I really, REALLY, REALLY wish you would reconsider this decision at less than 4 months HRT.

It's not that I'm saying "you should wait because you may end up with very nice C-D cups in a couple of years!".  No, that's not it... at your size, it's almost impossible and I understand the desire/need to have larger breasts than HRT can ever truly afford.  It's that I feel a more natural result and look will be achieved if you wait.  The more breast tissue you have to begin with, the better things will look once you get them augmented... I'm just worried you'll have that two-bolted-on-grapefruits look :embarrassed:

...and please please don't take this the wrong way, but judging by all your other posts and whatnot, you're the very impatient type; that can sometimes make for rash decisions.  I'm so sorry if I seem all preachy, but I really do care Elodie.


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This isn't normal... it should take months, not years, much less five ???

May be each person body experience with Estradiol different I guess.

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My mother is 34B, my sister 36D, and I'm 38DD (which is the same cup volume as 36DDD or 34G, for direct comparison). I'm one who takes after Dad's side, I guess. :) My sister, too.

As for what it's like... just normal now, I guess. Sorry, but I don't really remember what it was like before anymore. They don't feel huge now, even though when I tried on bras and padded to 38C it seemed *enormous,* because I've had time to adjust. I also don't feel like I actually have big breasts because my wife is 36J!

Quote from: Adchop on February 01, 2016, 03:42:28 PM
...have personally experienced, or know other women that have exceeded the 1 cup size smaller than your mom/sister belief?

Yes. My mother is a 34A so by the "1 cup smaller theory" I should have no boobs.

I am a 36B which equates (apparently) to a 34C

Quote from: pyhxbp on February 03, 2016, 07:28:01 AM
Yes. My mother is a 34A so by the "1 cup smaller theory" I should have no boobs.

I am a 36B which equates (apparently) to a 34C

All my mom side female only had either A or B cup breast. I am now worry that what I will have, and I am wish I will have either C or D cup.

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Quote from: luanneph on February 03, 2016, 07:41:43 AM
All my mom side female only had either A or B cup breast. I am now worry that what I will have, and I am wish I will have either C or D cup.

The real problem is how do you measure boobs?

A 38A is bigger than a 34A but they are both A cups. In fact a 38A is a 34C or a 36B or a 40AA. This leads to all sorts of mess because an A cup like a 40A is bigger than a B cup like 36B.

My personal opinion is that it is better to be a little too small as you can always boost your size easily with padding or chicken fillets, but boobs that are too big just get in the way and cause backache. My best friend is an F-cup and she would love to be a C-cup.

Quote from: Ⓥ on February 02, 2016, 09:33:19 PM
Hey, I fully realize I have a better chance at Todd English asking me out than I do at changing your mind at this point, but I would be remiss if I didn't say that I really, REALLY, REALLY wish you would reconsider this decision at less than 4 months HRT.

It's not that I'm saying "you should wait because you may end up with very nice C-D cups in a couple of years!".  No, that's not it... at your size, it's almost impossible and I understand the desire/need to have larger breasts than HRT can ever truly afford.  It's that I feel a more natural result and look will be achieved if you wait.  The more breast tissue you have to begin with, the better things will look once you get them augmented... I'm just worried you'll have that two-bolted-on-grapefruits look :embarrassed:

...and please please don't take this the wrong way, but judging by all your other posts and whatnot, you're the very impatient type; that can sometimes make for rash decisions.  I'm so sorry if I seem all preachy, but I really do care Elodie.

Yes you may be right about this but my surgeon who is very reputated with breast augmentation said it wont make any difference if i wait or not because i already have enough glandary tissue ( wich is rare for someone at the begining of hormones therapy).  The implants are undermuscle and the breast just growth normally after.  The more it will growth after, the more it will look natural.   If i end with D from natural growth i may require to remove the implant because i dont want to have bigger then DD  however the risk is low.

( i am not getting those huge implants , just small ones that give the extra 1-2 cup you need)

Quote from: pyhxbp on February 03, 2016, 08:06:31 AM
The real problem is how do you measure boobs?

A 38A is bigger than a 34A but they are both A cups. In fact a 38A is a 34C or a 36B or a 40AA. This leads to all sorts of mess because an A cup like a 40A is bigger than a B cup like 36B.

My personal opinion is that it is better to be a little too small as you can always boost your size easily with padding or chicken fillets, but boobs that are too big just get in the way and cause backache. My best friend is an F-cup and she would love to be a C-cup.

That true. I am afraid that I will hit my breast into door or stuff, since I still try to get use to have a new boobs.

Quote from: luanneph on February 03, 2016, 08:14:14 AM
That true. I am afraid that I will hit my breast into door or stuff, since I still try to get use to have a new boobs.

;D

You will hit them on doorframes and car doors no mater what size they are. Remember that even an A cup sticks out forward by a good few inches and your brain is used to the idea that you have an insensitive, flat chest rather than a very sensitive chest that sticks out.

Imagine sticking half a large grapefruit in each bra cup - that is a fair approximation to a mid size A cup. The average boob size in the US and UK was about 34C until the obesity epidemic of recent years which has forced it up to 34DD. If you are not overweight then 34C / 36B / 38A is average

Quote from: pyhxbp on February 03, 2016, 09:10:59 AM
;D

You will hit them on doorframes and car doors no mater what size they are. Remember that even an A cup sticks out forward by a good few inches and your brain is used to the idea that you have an insensitive, flat chest rather than a very sensitive chest that sticks out.

Imagine sticking half a large grapefruit in each bra cup - that is a fair approximation to a mid size A cup. The average boob size in the US and UK was about 34C until the obesity epidemic of recent years which has forced it up to 34DD. If you are not overweight then 34C / 36B / 38A is average

I think while my curious side wants large breasts, I'm also afraid of the side effects. I'm already a bull in a china shop at times, & I'm afraid that if I do grow larger than normal breasts that I will just be in constant pain from bumping into things, & people. Also, I am currently a large guy(most of my fat is in my belly, underarms, breasts) from years of working to add body mass in the gym, which then followed a period of letting that mass turn to fat. I'm thinking I probably have a better than average chance of growing larger breasts, which terrifies, & excites me at the same time. I'm terrified because I plan to present as male for as long as possible, & I'm not really ready to fully transition anytime soon. Also, I just know the larger my breasts get the more likely it will be that I'm going to experience the same issues most women with big breasts face (backache, difficulty find bras, etc). Even with saying all of that, deep down I still hope that I do grow a nice pair of breasts. It's the woman inside me I guess :laugh:

Quote from: archlord on February 03, 2016, 08:07:02 AM
Yes you may be right about this but my surgeon who is very reputated with breast augmentation said it wont make any difference if i wait or not because i already have enough glandary tissue ( wich is rare for someone at the begining of hormones therapy).  The implants are undermuscle and the breast just growth normally after.  The more it will growth after, the more it will look natural.   If i end with D from natural growth i may require to remove the implant because i dont want to have bigger then DD  however the risk is low.

( i am not getting those huge implants , just small ones that give the extra 1-2 cup you need)

So you are saying that your "reputable" Surgeon can already predict your Hormone outcome AFTER he/She takes your money and puts implants in you? REALLY?

I agree with V, and don't take this the wrong way...

It does not matter what a Surgeon tells you, or if the Implants are under muscle or on top. You will NOT know if your Breast growth will be "normal" after the implant as you assume.
You and your Surgeon will NOT know the results until Hormones are done doing what they do to your body. That is a FACT.
If a Surgeon told me it did not matter what stage my HRT was and that he/she could make it work, I'd never talk to that Surgeon again..EVER!
The BEST Surgeons will tell you to wait and let nature take it's course and then go from there, not the other way around.
I too want BA so bad, but if HRT does the work for me without the need for it. Great! If it's not to my satisfaction at LEAST 2 yrs into HRT, I may consider BA.

You are Impatient and we don't want to see you do anything to cause harm.

I suggest more research on HRT and BA. Just trying to be helpful.

At the end of the day, it's your choice and as with all things in life, our choices define our Future.

*hugs*

I am a 30DD however due to the shallow nature of my breasts I wear a padded bra which "adds 2 cups"; bringing it up to 30F.

Quote from: Jessika on February 03, 2016, 11:16:37 AM
So you are saying that your "reputable" Surgeon can already predict your Hormone outcome AFTER he/She takes your money and puts implants in you? REALLY?

Uhh, not what i am saying .. My surgeon is actually one that isnt running away with your money...  He refused to do my jaw, forehead, orbital contouring and hairline lowering because he considered those surgeries  useless/ not worth the risk in my case.  This is exactly what he said to me :  I could take the money and do your hairline lowering but i am telling you it doesnt worth it for 1cm ..  He said this for many things i wanted.

I trust this surgeon he only suggested what i truly needed.

Then when we arrived on the breast topic . He asked me to take the shirt and bra off .  It took him less then 20 second to say  that i am not ready by visual look.  He then came closer to me,  touched my breast and said  : oh hmmm okay.. you had a lot of glandary tissue growth.  I CAN do it.

I asked him if i would be better to wait another 6 month or 1 year and this was his awnser :  Some prefer to wait to see  approximativly what they will end with but the problem with  male frame ( yes we all have male frame) is that breast are growing larger, more spaced due to the ribcage and previous pectoral muscle.  According to the size you want it is unlikely that it will change anything if you do it now or in 1 year, you will want the surgery anyway for the "SHAPE" . Your breast will continue to growth normally after. 

He tested a few size on me,  showed me and explained me the reason why it wasnt a good idea to use large implants as it would look unnatural. We agreed on the size wich isnt big at all  and the type  (sillicone) and then he  explained me the risk of doing this surgery:

possibility of Unheaven breast size on both side,  necrosis of a breast,  rejection,  leakage,  that i get to much breast development and that i want to remove them or to have revision.


The main point WHY i am doing BA so early is because i am getting FFS ( rhinoplasty, tracheal shave, chin contouring) and it will save me from having to pay again for anasthesy fees and to miss 3-4 week of job salary + the pain of having to recover from another surgery...

I understand your concern and i am happy that you care enough of people to say it   :D but i am not the only one who got implants early on..   Carmen carrera did,  Gigi gorgeous did , Jaclyn Ecklun did and some of my ts friends i know and  they ended just with nice looking breast..

**Carmen carrera removed the implants not long ago

the thing is : He is doing my breast augmentation because i have enough breast maturity for it.  It is the only reason and the YMMV thing again.


Thanks to you and V for your warnings  :)

15 months on non-continuous hormones have seen mine go to 38C and they're noticeably expanding since switching from Finasteride to Dutasteride as the T-blocker.

I will definitely go for breast augmentation / implants later when they've stopped growing in c. 2 more years as they're quite wide apart.

I know everyone's different about this but my breasts really matter to me. They're what I can see when I look down :)

Quote from: pyhxbp on February 03, 2016, 09:10:59 AM
;D

You will hit them on doorframes and car doors no mater what size they are. Remember that even an A cup sticks out forward by a good few inches and your brain is used to the idea that you have an insensitive, flat chest rather than a very sensitive chest that sticks out.

Imagine sticking half a large grapefruit in each bra cup - that is a fair approximation to a mid size A cup. The average boob size in the US and UK was about 34C until the obesity epidemic of recent years which has forced it up to 34DD. If you are not overweight then 34C / 36B / 38A is average

Excellent Post

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Quote from: Richenda on February 03, 2016, 12:28:34 PM
since switching from Finasteride to Dutasteride as the T-blocker.

Neither finasteride or dutasteride are T blockers. They do not block or reduce T. They only reduce CONVERSION of T to DHT. They cannot be a substitute for an anti-androgen.

QuoteI will definitely go for breast augmentation / implants later when they've stopped growing in c. 2 more years

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Towards optimal hormonal treatment of male to female gender identity disorder

"The breast, nipple, and areola develop just as during female puberty, taking usually three to six years. Body weight and genetic predisposition affect the final breast size."

I can tell you, based on my own experience, that my breasts have grown and shrunk  and changed several times in my 10 yrs + on HRT. What you take, how much you take, diet, exercise, weight fluctuations, psychological and situational factors will determine growth.

Even ciswomen can relate to this as their breasts grow more during pregnancy, and at different times of the cycle, shrink after menopause, etc.

"Neither finasteride or dutasteride are T blockers. They do not block or reduce T. They only reduce CONVERSION of T to DHT. They cannot be a substitute for an anti-androgen. "


Argh I know, it was a quick shorthand. Have had this convo so many times.

Of course they are anti androgens though: anyr, andros Greek for 'man or male.' Finasteride and Dutasteride block the conversion of Dihydrotestosterone which is the more potent form of testosterone in males. Others have posted on here ad nauseam the mechanism by which they do this, and the fact that Dutasteride blocks both type I and II.

Re. the great growth, my professional clinicians have both advised me that another 18-24 months will see them, for the most part, top out. That's after examining me recently.

Quote from: Richenda on February 03, 2016, 04:00:46 PM
my professional clinicians have both advised me that another 18-24 months will see them, for the most part, top out. That's after examining me recently.

I've known many professionals make mistakes. Even amongst professionals, there is disagreement. Who's to say who's right and who's wrong? Real life experiences of several ciswomen, transwomen contradict their assertions. It can sometimes takes several years until full breast growth maturation occurs.

I do however understand your impatience at having normal looking breasts that are proportional to your body frame. You've probably waited for this a loooooooooong time. Being that you are impatient, you are more likely to accept their statements. I don't blame you.

My goal is just to set things straight based on real life occurrences and science. In the end, you gotta do what you gotta do. :)

Quote from: KayXo on February 03, 2016, 04:50:54 PM
I've known many professionals make mistakes. Even amongst professionals, there is disagreement. Who's to say who's right and who's wrong? Real life experiences of several ciswomen, transwomen contradict their assertions. It can sometimes takes several years until full breast growth maturation occurs.

Richenda's clinicians - CHX - are the same as mine. They have about 3,500 trans patients / clients on their books at any time. With numbers like that I suspect that they know their business.

I've learned that...
Boob size for women is a important as peen size is for men. I have yet to meet a guy who did not want to be the biggest I've had in my life and if not then he had to be the best in bed. What's a girl to do?

I want big boobs, but I consider a C to be big.

ps
the guy who was the biggest was the worst ever. I was in tears before he was done and he thought I loved it. I know they is no technique for boobs, but still.

After consideration I've decided that I want I 8 oops I mean Ds. lol

Quote from: ChasingAlice on February 03, 2016, 05:30:56 PM
I have yet to meet a guy who did not want to be the biggest I've had in my life and if not then he had to be the best in bed.

I never had and wanted to have the biggest P but I guess I wasn't really qualified for that contest....lol

With regards to boobs, I would be more than  happy to get into the C region...time will tell...


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Quote from: JessicaSondelli on February 03, 2016, 06:10:00 PM
I never had and wanted to have the biggest P but I guess I wasn't really qualified for that contest....lol

With regards to boobs, I would be more than  happy to get into the C region...time will tell...


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Well Jessica since us girls wait this long for our transition, then all we have just time.

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Quote from: pyhxbp on February 03, 2016, 05:08:58 PM
Richenda's clinicians - CHX - are the same as mine. They have about 3,500 trans patients / clients on their books at any time. With numbers like that I suspect that they know their business.

Indeed :)

In my case the breast growth has gone far quicker than I expected so I'm not impatient but, as others have mentioned, they are slightly far apart so it would be good to pull them in and push them up further down the line.

I wish.

Almost 1.5 years of HRT for me and I'm just barely growing out of my 32B/34A right now. I don't quite fill a 34B yet. My mom is a 36C herself.

Being really underweight 130-135lbs at 5'10" probably didn't help but now that I'm up to 140 I'm hoping some of it goes to my boobs. I'm actually lucky in terms of my big hips and I need something on my chest to balance them out.

I sure wish my girls would perk up. I'm still only a B cup at best ater 2 years of HRT. Plastic surgery is so expensive however I guess it's my only alternative. My doc can do it easy so maybe a full C cup soon. Good luck girls.

Quote from: ChloëAri on February 03, 2016, 11:19:11 AM
I am a 30DD however due to the shallow nature of my breasts I wear a padded bra which "adds 2 cups"; bringing it up to 30F.

Wait... what?  DD = shallow ?  30 band?  DD?

I'm confuzzled.  I'm so confuzzled that I'll put a bunch of question marks in my post that will then turn into a substantially large family of confused looking emoticons:

Quote from: pyhxbp on February 03, 2016, 05:08:58 PM
They have about 3,500 trans patients / clients on their books at any time. With numbers like that I suspect that they know their business.

You'd be surprised. Don't assume anything beforehand. They may know or may not. Experience is no guarantee.

Well I am now just over 3 years on HRT with a full 44B/42C breasts. Last year I contemplated BA, but wider heads and my GP suggested I wait until I had been on HRT for 4-5 years as they are still growing. Then I was probably more like 42A. I still had a visit to a surgeon, but he reckoned I should also wait. My only issue is my breasts are still too tubular, but I do have a lot of tissue in my breasts.  But the areola are about the size of a 20C piece (australian) and my nipples are always very perky and erect.

Two weeks ago I went for a fitting for a new Swim suit with my corsetiere that I go to. She commented on how nice my bra was (I bought it in Marks & Spencer in the UK in Oxford Street), but  recommended I used the middle hooks. The fitting was immediately better with better projection and almost immediately better cleavage. She said.. well there don't you feel much better now. I had to agree with her. Her  other assistant said thats much better - you now have cleavage. Just shows you what a proper bra fitting can do for you.

Mind you ideally I would like to be DD. My mother was 38DD.
Judith

I've been lucky, my sister was quite large and I guess I got the genes. I'm at a 38 DDD right now after 28 months

Quote from: judithlynn on March 04, 2016, 10:55:58 PM
My only issue is my breasts are still too tubular

The addition of progesterone will round them out.

Hi KayXo,
Yes Progesterone would be the idea, but my Doctor in Melbourne (sven Strecker) doesn't believe in it and will not prescribe it
Judith

Quote from: judithlynn on March 05, 2016, 08:00:06 PM
Hi KayXo,
Yes Progesterone would be the idea, but my Doctor in Melbourne (sven Strecker) doesn't believe in it and will not prescribe it

Why not? Based on what studies? I have compiled a summary of progesterone, its effects, benefits vs risks, how it impacts cis and transwomen, etc with a ton of scientific references supporting its safety. If you want, I can send you the document, you take a look at it, understand it and then present this info to your doctor. The objection to prescribing it is easily arguable because it doesn't hold scientifically speaking. You just need to know about progesterone and how it differs from other progestogens, become familiar with the science. Your doctor won't be able to argue against it. Trust me!

Just think for a moment...ciswomen produce it in significant amounts during the second phase of the menstrual cycle, in much higher concentrations during pregnancy. Need we really be concerned with a hormone that has been produced in copious amounts by the human body for millions of years? Anyways, let me know if you want the document.

It's time we educate our doctors. :)

Quote from: Dankster on February 02, 2016, 01:39:27 AM
Having bewbs is whatever. They just hang there. Don't even think about them half the time. Tbqh, I really didn't care much about bewb growth before, just wanted the other effects from hrt. Had you asked me last month, I would have said I felt worst, because I still live as a boy,and it's become quite an inconvenience to have to hide them everyday;I truly don't know how I will survive the summer, because recently they started rounding out at the bottom. Whats changed my mind is that just recently, I discovered that if I touch my nipples, despite how sensitive they feel, that I can easily get aroused. Tried it this past weekend for about 10 minutes, bewbs felt numb and weird, nipples felt super warm, laid on my stomach after, probably the most pleasurable feeling I've had in my upper body, ever. Just the way the numb fat feels under the nipple, OMG.  :laugh:

I still live as male but probably not for much longer, but have to agree , feeling of nipples was not expected at all, never really thought that they were a real source of pleasure , yes I know, it just never occurred to me that girls can orgasm from them then so should I .
Guess I'm a bit slow sometimes. and yes, OMG really sums up the feeling

I absolutely haven't. After 8 months of HRT, I don't reach an A cup. But I haven't taken Progesterone yet. It's the part I'm most disappointed about my physical development. I started at 18, and have feminized quite a lot, my body was never that masculine to begin with, but breast area has been really disappointing.

I'd sure love to report nice full C or D cup girls but after 2.5 years of HRT mine are maybe a small B cup, ugggg. I'm just going to have implants.....this summer.

Quote from: Aurorasky on March 27, 2016, 04:55:16 PM
I absolutely haven't. After 8 months of HRT, I don't reach an A cup. But I haven't taken Progesterone yet. It's the part I'm most disappointed about my physical development. I started at 18, and have feminized quite a lot, my body was never that masculine to begin with, but breast area has been really disappointing.

Are your breasts still growing though? You've only been on HRT for 8 months, it takes more time for breasts to fully mature. If there is absolutely no growth, then you should go see your doctor and ask for HRT adjustment.

Quote from: FrancisAnn on March 27, 2016, 05:03:32 PM
I'd sure love to report nice full C or D cup girls but after 2.5 years of HRT mine are maybe a small B cup, ugggg. I'm just going to have implants.....this summer.

Have you exhausted all options with HRT?

Don't forget that at 2.5 years, your breasts are at roughly the same point in development as a 14- or 15-year-old cis girl's. There are doctors who will do implants for a 15-year-old, and also sometimes it works out fine, but...

I didn't stop developing until about 5+ years in, and my wife had a cup size growth spurt at 22 when she started developing at 12.

Quote from: judithlynn on March 05, 2016, 08:00:06 PM
Hi KayXo,
Yes Progesterone would be the idea, but my Doctor in Melbourne (sven Strecker) doesn't believe in it and will not prescribe it
Judith

My endo in Melb had me on progesterone until I had srs, still unsure if it actually did anything

Quote from: Jenna Marie on March 27, 2016, 06:17:06 PM
Don't forget that at 2.5 years, your breasts are at roughly the same point in development as a 14- or 15-year-old cis girl's. There are doctors who will do implants for a 15-year-old, and also sometimes it works out fine, but...

I didn't stop developing until about 5+ years in, and my wife had a cup size growth spurt at 22 when she started developing at 12.

Thanks Jenna Marie. I may adjust my HRT soon. I'd love 100% natural breasts if possible. I did have to stop for hrt during some surgery periods of time. I'm still on pills, I've never had a pellet implant yet so my levels may not be right.????

Hi Serenation;
Who was your Endo in Melbourne. Perhaps I should ask for a referral to him. Were you on implants on Prometrium pills?
Judith

Quote from: KayXo on March 27, 2016, 05:53:31 PM
Are your breasts still growing though? You've only been on HRT for 8 months, it takes more time for breasts to fully mature. If there is absolutely no growth, then you should go see your doctor and ask for HRT adjustment.

They grew until the 3rd month mark, now they seem completely stunted...I'm afraid it might be genetics, however my mother is a 34B and my sister has smaller breats, but has them. The rest of my body and face have feminized quite well, my thighs are thicker, my hips have filled, waist is smaller. I am and was always petitie, and had  very high voice (never dropped), so I started passing 1.5 month mark (before that, people were often confused my gender when I dressed in male clothes), but breast development has been nothing but a disappointment.

Quote from: Aurorasky on March 29, 2016, 04:59:42 AM
They grew until the 3rd month mark, now they seem completely stunted...I'm afraid it might be genetics

I'm not so sure. The stopping may be temporary or you may need a higher dose of E. All this needs to be discussed with your doctor but it's way too soon to give up based on the idea that it's genetics. It could well be that your E is too low or even androgen is too high.

I'll just second Kay's recommendation or if you are taking CPA as your AA since it is a progestin it actually helps the loboluvular development of your breast just like a bio identical progesterone it might just take longer.

April

QuoteHow many transgender women have experienced larger than expected breast growth?

Oh... about half.  ;)

Statistics FTW.

QuoteI'm planning to still present myself as man as well. What did you find was the most difficult about it? How much growth have you had so far(If it's ok that I ask)? Do you use a sports bra? Compression shirt? The arousal part you mentioned is super interesting to me. I really hope to get a large set of breasts (Though the cautious side of me screams NO!). I know from what I have seen, some cis women prefer boob play, but some could care less. Just curious if the arousal that I have imagined in my dreams is as nice in real life.

There are some forums for men who wear bras.  Many of them have fairly large breasts and wear a bra to contain them.  They are proud of what they have.  I nicely fill a 38A and wear a bra because I want to.  Today, I brought up the subject of larger breasts with my doctor and she's going to refer me to someone who can help.

I'm a lot bigger than I expected, and with developing lasting up to 5 years I can only imagine I still have a long way to go. For me I started on the pill and a AA blocker, and then 6 months later started progesterone. At 2 months I was an A cup, 3 months B cup, 5 months I hit a C cup, and at 8 - 9 months I hit a D cup. I'm currently almost a year in but if that trend is anything to go by I'll need a DD in a few months XD. I personally am wearing a 36D right now. I have decent cleavage, but that's mainly because I'm still rounding out. I'm the oldest out of my siblings and the women in my family are all around DD - E cup, so I could expect to hit somewhere between those cup sizes if not exactly the same size as them. I wouldn't get too worked up over bra sizes though because it's all relative anyways since bra size can vary from brand to brand, what the size is varies depending on where you're at in the world, and well a 36D and a 40D will be very different lol. If you worry about how they are developing and stuff, I would said do massage them because that's amazing, and take progesterone, but it might not be effective for everyone. But yeah.

   I can dream..... but time will tell.

  Hugs,
    Jeanette

It has been a year since i responded to this thread and i have continued to expand in that area. I have to believe i am reaching the final stages of it, but my doctor says "one never knows" I'm now a D cup up from a C a year ago and so that seems very rapid, given the fact HRT just started two years ago.

So i definitely was blessed genetically on that part of my feminization and actually most of the other areas as well.  Id be really cool with development stopping now. I love my breasts though. I'd love to have further facial changes and i am hopeful i will see some but i also know that surgery is probably in my future.

I've had a full C cup most of my life but I did not transition until I was 50.. That meant for most of my life I was hiding them in an uncomfortable binder, loose shirts and jackets most of the year. Of course swimming and T shirts were completely out as was undressing in front of other men. I did not have them surgically dealt with because they were even more erotic than my penis. And there were the occasional accidents where I forgot I had them. But now I just love them.

QuoteI've had a full C cup most of my life but I did not transition until I was 50.

I'm surprised it took you so long, considering the encouragement you had from your mother.  I'm sure many of us here would have liked to have a mother like yours.

I just wish I had been able to share my feelings with my mother when I was young.

BTW, I know you're non-op, but have you taken HRT?

Ladies let's not forget some of y'all were heavier pre hrt so you can't go off of being heavy and current breast growth. I'm sure if y'all was as small as some of us you wouldn't be as big as you are. I'm 5'7, 130lbs, and my breasts are a B cup.

well I guess the crossdressing was enough to satisfy me and remember SRS was not so common years ago, Christine notwithstanding. Yes mother and I were very close and I truly felt I was her daughter who had to wear mens clothed. After she died I became very friendly with a cis woman who was fascinated with my gender connumbrum and she helped fill the void.  The only surgery I've had was butt implants. For a while Mother was giving me her birth control pills and that filled me out quite a bit. Then I took progesterone for a couple years and that developed my nipples to some projection.

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on March 01, 2017, 02:50:22 PM
Ladies let's not forget some of y'all were heavier pre hrt so you can't go off of being heavy and current breast growth. I'm sure if y'all was as small as some of us you wouldn't be as big as you are. I'm 5'7, 130lbs, and my breasts are a B cup.

That definitely is a good point. I'm about 20 pounds up from my lightest weight - i was as low as 165 at one point in about 2012 and i'm 5'9"-10". Most of that gain came on in the two years prior to HRT, so that probably contributed to jump starting the breast development.

I have been gaining and losing the same 5-7 pounds since, but lately i have lost about 12 and there has been little or no shrinkage. This lends credence to my "strategic fat" theory of going up and down for weight redistribution. Most women in my family are large breasted and a bit chubby genetically, so that no doubt has something to do with it too.

I currently wear a 40 D bra. This is much larger than my mother, but about the same as my grandmother on my father's side. I was also, way over weight and I lost over 100 pounds. I needed a tummy tuck, arms and face lift to look presentable. But, I am keeping the boobs. I love them.

At 21 months on Hormones I made it to a small A. So with that equation it would take me a long time to get to where I am now with my recent BA. Happiness CAN be manipulated a little. :)

Quote from: noleen111 on February 02, 2016, 09:22:40 AM
I have 36D cup breasts. when you have larger breasts, a good bra is very important. A good bra gives you the necessary support and you then little back issues. I love my breasts and I am very happy how they turned out. I still love wearing bra and I love the fact that I must a wear a bra and my flesh fill the cups. I love to wear outfits that show off my cleavage. Also important (and not just women with big breasts), wear the right bra size. you will be surprised how many cis-women wear the incorrect bra size. Go for a professional fitting, I went and it turned out my cup and band size was wrong. A bra that fits right, its very comfortable and you barely feel its there.

All the women in my family are big breasted, DD and up, except my mother, she is also a D Cup, but she wears a 34D, so my breasts are technically bigger.

Who would do a professional bra fitting? A tailor?

I have tiny nothings.
A double AA at best, and even the probably don't fill em... Lol oh well I am happy so far that is all that matters

Quote from: RobynD on March 01, 2017, 05:01:27 PM
That definitely is a good point. I'm about 20 pounds up from my lightest weight - i was as low as 165 at one point in about 2012 and i'm 5'9"-10". Most of that gain came on in the two years prior to HRT, so that probably contributed to jump starting the breast development.

You've just made my day :) in a very nervous kind of way - I'm also 5'9, 166lbs and have a family of 4 sisters, all of whom are DD or bigger ...

Saying that, I actually kind of want a B cup - why do I think that irony is going to bestow something entirely else upon me :)

QuoteWho would do a professional bra fitting? A tailor?

Generally speaking a bra fitting is done by someone at the store.  Decent bra shops should have fitters who help find the appropriate bra.  If you can't find what you need in a store, you can also go to custom bra makers.  You can find them by searching with Google etc..

Hey ladies,

AnneK mentioned above that there are forums where men with breasts who wear bras gather and share information. I have been on those boards for a couple years due to my gynecomastia. Men come with all size breasts and not all are due to weight but some are affected by that. While I feel quite large at 40G I have exchanged information with a man in Alaska who is a 50K! Don't even hope to get in that spot. I have experienced the fast growth some others have spoke of and it can be exciting and frustrating at the same time, not to mention expensive. One thing thing I have to say about these men is that they are focused on the details and know vastly more about the technical side of wearing bras than most women. It seems that if guys are going to wear a bra they are going to do it right. My wife always got a chuckle out of that. I would have to agree that going to a good store or boutique and having a fitting is definitely worth the experience. Depending on your comfort level the fitter can be very involved or hardly involved based on your preference. At a minimum they will bring and exchange bras while you are in the changing room. I would highly suggest it as a way to really feel like a woman as well. Yu leave some boutiques quite pampered.
One of my first times to a store to try on bras I asked the fitter to come in and give her opinion. I was deciding between DD and DDD at the time and unsure as I had been having so much growth. The way she poked around I could tell she didn't know too much but she asked me if I was transitioning and I about fell over. That was the last thing I was thinking of at that point, maybe she knew more than I thought!
Not sure if any of you have ever viewed a size chart referencing sister sizes that converts cup sizes to a volume figure in cc's. One is available here http://www.upliftstl.com/blog/d-is-not-a-bra-size
It really helped me understand bra sizing much better so I thought I would share it for everyone.
After awhile you do figure out bigger is not always better and to enjoy the ones you're given!

I'm 61 and just a month on hrt.  My sister has DD cup size breasts, will it be probable that I could reach a D cup?


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I am 15 months HRT and have had steady growth from the 3rd week. I wear mostly B-cup bras and a couple C-cups, but the Bs are definitely better fitting as far as snugness. I am still growing (I can feel them) and will probably get to D-cup in a year. I will always be closeted so this is going to be a problem since I most definitely show in all my shirts now. I am skinny so they stick out and makes me conscious of them whenever I am out and about. They are heavy enough to feel bouncing all day. It's a nice sensation but keeps my mind on them a little too much sometimes! ;)

Sleeping lately has been really problematic as I have always slept on my stomach almost all my life. The big mounds can really press hard into the mattress and feels like a couple big sponges pressing into my chest. I stopped sleeping like that for a long time but I am trying to do it again as it is the most comfortable for me...

Haha... I'm probably the one with the smallest bust here. I'm not even a 32AA and you pretty much see nothing physically as well. Touching on the other hand is different.

I'm very curious about all this.  I drawing near to starting hrt, but I hadn't given this much thought before I saw this thread.  My mother is a fairly big girl in this department, while the women on my father's side weren't so much (as far as I can remember), and so I don't know where I will turn out.  I do know that I take mostly after my mother... so one can hope!