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Title: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Futurist on February 01, 2016, 04:07:32 PM
And my entire epididymis?

Completely serious question, for the record.
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Futurist on February 01, 2016, 05:24:58 PM
Basically, I want guaranteed permanent sterility and I also dislike both my vas deferens and my epididymis. :(
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Devlyn on February 01, 2016, 06:01:35 PM
Which surgeon are you going to?
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: TG CLare on February 01, 2016, 06:30:54 PM
When your surgeon removes your testicles, I can guarantee that you'll be sterile. No testicles, no sperm production. As for everything else, I'm afraid I can't answer that as I'm not familiar with the entire procedure. Have you asked your surgeon these questions?

Love,
Clare
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Futurist on February 01, 2016, 08:36:43 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on February 01, 2016, 06:01:35 PM
Which surgeon are you going to?
I don't know yet. After all, I am first focused on getting a therapist letter or two for this (as well as focused on completing my university studies). Indeed, I would rather take my time with this than to immediately go to Dr. Arnkoff due to the fact that I want to increase the odds that my insurance company will pay for my post-orchiectomy HRT (whichever one I will decide to take, but hopefully estrogen).
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Futurist on February 01, 2016, 08:37:27 PM
Quote from: TG CLare on February 01, 2016, 06:30:54 PM
When your surgeon removes your testicles, I can guarantee that you'll be sterile. No testicles, no sperm production. As for everything else, I'm afraid I can't answer that as I'm not familiar with the entire procedure. Have you asked your surgeon these questions?

Love,
Clare
Frankly, considering that a part of the vas deferens (that long, pesky tube :() can grow back after it is removed, I certainly don't want to take any chances with my testicles in regards to this. :( Seriously; after all, the human body's ability to heal is extremely amazing! :(
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Futurist on February 01, 2016, 11:10:36 PM
Also, how much additional money do you think that it will cost me to have a doctor do this?

Any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: itsApril on February 01, 2016, 11:53:21 PM
Quote from: Futurist on February 01, 2016, 08:37:27 PM
Frankly, considering that a part of the vas deferens (that long, pesky tube :() can grow back after it is removed, I certainly don't want to take any chances with my testicles in regards to this. :( Seriously; after all, the human body's ability to heal is extremely amazing! :(
I'm no doctor, but believe me.  Your testicles aren't going to regenerate from your vas deferens.  When testicles are gone, they are gone!
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Futurist on February 02, 2016, 12:09:25 AM
Quote from: itsApril on February 01, 2016, 11:53:21 PM
I'm no doctor, but believe me.  Your testicles aren't going to regenerate from your vas deferens.  When testicles are gone, they are gone!
I wish that I could believe you, but frankly, it would certainly be nice to be more sure about this. After all, the vas deferens has unfortunately already grown back numerous times by now! :(
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: itsApril on February 02, 2016, 12:16:04 AM
Quote from: Futurist on February 02, 2016, 12:09:25 AM
I wish that I could believe you, but frankly, it would certainly be nice to be more sure about this. After all, the vas deferens has unfortunately already grown back numerous times by now! :(
Okay!  Fair enough!  I'm not a doctor.  So go ahead and ask a doctor.  Will that convince you?
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: TG CLare on February 02, 2016, 04:02:43 PM
Once your testicles are removed, I absolutely guarantee they won't ever grow back. I'm not a doctor but that's a medical fact. Check it out yourself.

Love,
Clare
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Laura_Squirrel on February 02, 2016, 04:06:40 PM
Quote from: TG CLare on February 02, 2016, 04:02:43 PM
Once your testicles are removed, I absolutely guarantee they won't ever grow back. I'm not a doctor but that's a medical fact. Check it out yourself.

Love,
Clare

True. I had my fruits plucked in 2010 and they have not grown back.
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Futurist on February 02, 2016, 05:24:43 PM
Quote from: TG CLare on February 02, 2016, 04:02:43 PM
Once your testicles are removed, I absolutely guarantee they won't ever grow back. I'm not a doctor but that's a medical fact. Check it out yourself.

Love,
Clare
What about the possibility of extra testicles, though?
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Futurist on February 02, 2016, 05:25:46 PM
Quote from: Laura_Squirrel on February 02, 2016, 04:06:40 PM
True. I had my fruits plucked in 2010 and they have not grown back.
Well, most men's vas deferens likewise doesn't grow back if a part of it is removed, but this certainly (and unfortunately) doesn't mean that such regrowth is impossible. :(
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Devlyn on February 02, 2016, 05:31:16 PM
Quote from: Futurist on February 01, 2016, 08:36:43 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on February 01, 2016, 06:01:35 PM
Which surgeon are you going to?
I don't know yet. After all, I am first focused on getting a therapist letter or two for this (as well as focused on completing my university studies). Indeed, I would rather take my time with this than to immediately go to Dr. Arnkoff due to the fact that I want to increase the odds that my insurance company will pay for my post-orchiectomy HRT (whichever one I will decide to take, but hopefully estrogen).

The only way you'll know is to ask the surgeon you're going to. Obviously, one doctor can't speak for another, and we can't speak for any doctors. Post any updates you get so someone else can benefit from the information.

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: pyhxbp on February 03, 2016, 05:18:09 AM
The epididymus is part of the testicles and gets thrown away with the testicles.

The Vas Deferens goes from the testicle up through the body and joins near the bladder/prostate junction deep inside the body. To remove the complete Vas Deferens would be more invasive than GRS as they would have to open you up to get to it. It is certainly too invasive for an orchi.

They will remove the Vas Deferens at its lower part. Since you will have no testicles there will be no sperm and on the remote possibility that sperm might be in the Vas Deferens remember that sperm dies very quickly, ususally within five days of being produced in the testes which is why testes have to  permanently produce sperm.
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Anela on February 03, 2016, 09:14:52 AM
 I am a shaman and heal myself incredably fast and had Orchi and no testicals or sperm have ever grown back. But serious injury filled the sack with fluid taking months to go back down.  The Dr will wrap it tight so fluid does not fill the space while you heal. I was walking carfully the next day because i was in a hotel room with no money and had to beg for food. and search trash cans in Honolulu Hi.
   You will forever not have any sperm and your testicals will not grow back. if you break your pelvis it will refill the sack though as mine filled like a baseball. I told the dr to drain it but they left me and let it go away on its own. I was pissed off though. They could have drained it . its just plasma.
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: TG CLare on February 03, 2016, 01:35:30 PM
Quote from: Futurist on February 02, 2016, 05:24:43 PM
What about the possibility of extra testicles, though?

Extra testicles? You're kidding, right? I don't know of any thing that ever had more than 2. Well, there was this show dog that had 3 testicles but one was an implant because one testicle hadn't descended until suddenly one day.........

Now the chances of you having an extra is slim to none in my uneducated non-medical opinion. Check yourself out. How many can you feel?

As for regeneration of any testicles, unless you have some reptilian/amphibian DNA in you the chances are absolutely 0. You have better odds of winning 3 huge lotteries in a  row.

If you don't believe me, ask anyone on here or go online and do some research on your own or even better, ask your doctor these questions. They won't lie to you.

Love,
Clare

Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Futurist on February 03, 2016, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: TG CLare on February 03, 2016, 01:35:30 PM
Extra testicles? You're kidding, right? I don't know of any thing that ever had more than 2. Well, there was this show dog that had 3 testicles but one was an implant because one testicle hadn't descended until suddenly one day.........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyorchidism

You were saying?

QuoteNow the chances of you having an extra is slim to none in my uneducated non-medical opinion. Check yourself out. How many can you feel?

This testicle/these testicles might not be located in the scrotum, though. :(

QuoteAs for regeneration of any testicles, unless you have some reptilian/amphibian DNA in you the chances are absolutely 0.

If so, then why exactly does a part of the vas deferens sometimes grow back?

QuoteYou have better odds of winning 3 huge lotteries in a  row.

What exactly are the odds of this occurring, though?

QuoteIf you don't believe me, ask anyone on here or go online and do some research on your own or even better, ask your doctor these questions. They won't lie to you.

Love,
Clare

A doctor can occasionally be misinformed, though. :(
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: itsApril on February 03, 2016, 03:36:12 PM
With all due respect, Futurist, how many times will you pose the same question and get the same answer from everyone?  If you don't accept what everyone here is telling you, okay!  Then do your own research and see if you can find any medical reports of spontaneous regeneration of testicles.  Or ask your doctor.
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Futurist on February 03, 2016, 04:08:44 PM
Quote from: pyhxbp on February 03, 2016, 05:18:09 AM
The epididymus is part of the testicles and gets thrown away with the testicles.

The Vas Deferens goes from the testicle up through the body and joins near the bladder/prostate junction deep inside the body. To remove the complete Vas Deferens would be more invasive than GRS as they would have to open you up to get to it. It is certainly too invasive for an orchi.

They will remove the Vas Deferens at its lower part. Since you will have no testicles there will be no sperm and on the remote possibility that sperm might be in the Vas Deferens remember that sperm dies very quickly, ususally within five days of being produced in the testes which is why testes have to  permanently produce sperm.
Two questions:

1. How much additional money would removing the rest of the vas deferens cost?
2. Wouldn't eliminating all of the sperm from the vas deferens take more like 3 to 6 months as opposed to 5 days?
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: pyhxbp on February 03, 2016, 05:05:43 PM
Quote from: Futurist on February 03, 2016, 04:08:44 PM
Two questions:

1. How much additional money would removing the rest of the vas deferens cost?

Costs? Ask a surgeon, not me.


Quote from: Futurist on February 03, 2016, 04:08:44 PM
2. Wouldn't eliminating all of the sperm from the vas deferens take more like 3 to 6 months as opposed to 5 days?

Sperm dies in 5 days. That is it. That is how long they live.

The Vas Deferens is just a tube. Nothing in it produces sperm. People keep telling you this.

No testes = no sperm

What is so hard to believe about that?
Title: Re: Can the doctor who will perform my orchi also remove my *entire* vas deferens?
Post by: Cindy on February 03, 2016, 11:46:22 PM
This thread just goes in circles so I am locking.

Futurist please contact your medical people in regards to orchidectomy questions.