Community Conversation => Transitioning => Facial feminization surgery => Topic started by: Eveline on February 06, 2016, 10:54:37 AM Return to Full Version
Title: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: Eveline on February 06, 2016, 10:54:37 AM
Post by: Eveline on February 06, 2016, 10:54:37 AM
During my recent FFS with Facial Team, I was shocked by what the "before" CAT scans revealed. The amount of bone *not* removed during a previous FFS was obvious. In fact, my "before" scans looked like a typical male skull, as if no work had yet been done.
To make matters worse, holes from a previous FFS were clearly visible on my forehead.
IMHO, if all FFS surgeons were expected to routinely provide both before and after CAT scans as part of the procedure, with a review before the patient leaves, this kind of thing would be a *lot* less likely to happen.
See for yourself:
Mod edit: Sorry Eveline, the other images were way too graphic for this site.
To make matters worse, holes from a previous FFS were clearly visible on my forehead.
IMHO, if all FFS surgeons were expected to routinely provide both before and after CAT scans as part of the procedure, with a review before the patient leaves, this kind of thing would be a *lot* less likely to happen.
See for yourself:
| Front - Before | Front - After |
| (https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B1qK1QDKjDX4TDRpaENDZjJqLXc) | (https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B1qK1QDKjDX4SDJJUXBzTTR1TGc) |
| Side - Before | Side - After |
| (https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B1qK1QDKjDX4VmpmNFl3YjNwWGs) | (https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B1qK1QDKjDX4RGNGOE1uZ2tqTTQ) |
Mod edit: Sorry Eveline, the other images were way too graphic for this site.
Title: Re: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: Paula1 on February 06, 2016, 06:10:30 PM
Post by: Paula1 on February 06, 2016, 06:10:30 PM
Hi Eveline,
Thanks for sharing these fotos.
I am in to gore ... ;D so don't mind one bit .. ;)
But I am not sure if I could have been a surgeon as that's a totally different ball game ... :-\
Anyway it's awful how some surgeons mess up.
It's going to be interesting to see my after surgery fotos and CT scans, having had a rest on the gurney for a few hours down in Marbella this April ... :o
I will now post up the fotos on my FFS thread tomorrow that were taken during my revision surgery in October 2014 at London's Chelsea & Westminster Hospital. Like your's they too are a bit gory !!!
It shows the inappropriate PEEK implants that were inserted which are being removed in April as well as the left frontal sinus problem etc.
Take care and happy healing.
Hugs
Paula
PS. Because Eveline's gory fotos were removed which is kinda understandable ( but I am so glad I saw them), I will not post mine tomorrow.
Thanks for sharing these fotos.
I am in to gore ... ;D so don't mind one bit .. ;)
But I am not sure if I could have been a surgeon as that's a totally different ball game ... :-\
Anyway it's awful how some surgeons mess up.
It's going to be interesting to see my after surgery fotos and CT scans, having had a rest on the gurney for a few hours down in Marbella this April ... :o
I will now post up the fotos on my FFS thread tomorrow that were taken during my revision surgery in October 2014 at London's Chelsea & Westminster Hospital. Like your's they too are a bit gory !!!
It shows the inappropriate PEEK implants that were inserted which are being removed in April as well as the left frontal sinus problem etc.
Take care and happy healing.
Hugs
Paula
PS. Because Eveline's gory fotos were removed which is kinda understandable ( but I am so glad I saw them), I will not post mine tomorrow.
Title: Re: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: Rachel on February 06, 2016, 06:19:50 PM
Post by: Rachel on February 06, 2016, 06:19:50 PM
Thanks for sharing. Your post was very insightful. I remember who you went to for FFS and I will scratch them from my list. I was going to get a quote from them.
Title: Re: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: Paula1 on February 06, 2016, 06:57:12 PM
Post by: Paula1 on February 06, 2016, 06:57:12 PM
Just a quick question moderators, can members pm gory surgery fotos among themselves ?
Of course, if a member goes on to Eveline's photo hosting site (which I can't identify), they can still be seen ... :)
Of course, if a member goes on to Eveline's photo hosting site (which I can't identify), they can still be seen ... :)
Title: Re: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: Eveline on February 06, 2016, 07:10:19 PM
Post by: Eveline on February 06, 2016, 07:10:19 PM
OK, for those who want to see the surgery photos, you can use the links below.
Caution - these are surgical photos, and were considered too graphic for this site. View at your own risk:
* 1st surprise - forehead skin drawn into long, open notch in forehead (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1qK1QDKjDX4QlNmRU85Nld4Njg)
* 2nd surprise - three holes in my forehead (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1qK1QDKjDX4enhuVnVaNFJjQ00)
* Forehead bone removed and refashioned (Type 3) (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1qK1QDKjDX4TC00b2JlTnlYZkU)
* The final result from Facial Team (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1qK1QDKjDX4Y2Y4eWVQZ1FHWnM)
Caution - these are surgical photos, and were considered too graphic for this site. View at your own risk:
* 1st surprise - forehead skin drawn into long, open notch in forehead (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1qK1QDKjDX4QlNmRU85Nld4Njg)
* 2nd surprise - three holes in my forehead (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1qK1QDKjDX4enhuVnVaNFJjQ00)
* Forehead bone removed and refashioned (Type 3) (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1qK1QDKjDX4TC00b2JlTnlYZkU)
* The final result from Facial Team (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1qK1QDKjDX4Y2Y4eWVQZ1FHWnM)
Title: Re: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: Paula1 on February 06, 2016, 07:23:51 PM
Post by: Paula1 on February 06, 2016, 07:23:51 PM
Thanks Eveline ... :)
Title: Re: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: RubyAliza on February 06, 2016, 09:52:42 PM
Post by: RubyAliza on February 06, 2016, 09:52:42 PM
Wow! This is quite incredible. Who did your previous FFS? :( It's okay if you don't or can't mention it on these boards. I'm so happy that you were able to get it fixed.
- Ruby
- Ruby
Title: Re: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: Eveline on February 07, 2016, 06:35:44 AM
Post by: Eveline on February 07, 2016, 06:35:44 AM
Quote from: RubyAliza on February 06, 2016, 09:52:42 PM
Wow! This is quite incredible. Who did your previous FFS? :( It's okay if you don't or can't mention it on these boards. I'm so happy that you were able to get it fixed.
- Ruby
RubyAliza (or anyone), please feel free to PM me if you want to talk more about this...
Title: Re: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: Wednesday on February 07, 2016, 07:59:10 AM
Post by: Wednesday on February 07, 2016, 07:59:10 AM
Thank you so much Eveline for this interesting thread!
Really enjoyed the surgical photos :) They did quite a fix.
Really enjoyed the surgical photos :) They did quite a fix.
Title: Re: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: Paula1 on February 17, 2016, 04:35:47 AM
Post by: Paula1 on February 17, 2016, 04:35:47 AM
Hi Eveline.
How's the healing going?
Hugs
Paula
How's the healing going?
Hugs
Paula
Title: Re: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: jhulyglow on February 17, 2016, 02:47:04 PM
Post by: jhulyglow on February 17, 2016, 02:47:04 PM
I did not understand. You can not talk or do not want to mention the doctor's name? Is there any judicial process? Just a curiosity. I regret the run. I desire to be fully realized now with the correction. Doctors can not coerce patients. There is medical secrecy laws and records. To be a discussion about it in the forum, we are free to report our experiences - provided we can prove. Mistakes and successes of our surgeries. Or am I wrong? Sorry my bad English.
Mod Edit- bashing anyone regardless of their intent is against TOS 10.
Mod Edit- bashing anyone regardless of their intent is against TOS 10.
Title: Re: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: Dena on February 17, 2016, 03:02:51 PM
Post by: Dena on February 17, 2016, 03:02:51 PM
:police: Topic locked for review. Discussion of site policy in open forum is a TOS 2 violation :police:
Title: Re: Why before & after FFS CAT scans are a good thing (TW: moderately gory photos)
Post by: Mariah on February 17, 2016, 03:23:24 PM
Post by: Mariah on February 17, 2016, 03:23:24 PM
:police:
Considering the long history of issues in this thread and TOS violations including TOS 2 and 10. Thread remains locked.
Considering the long history of issues in this thread and TOS violations including TOS 2 and 10. Thread remains locked.