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Title: Got gendered RIGHT on the phone... still stunned
Post by: Ms Grace on February 10, 2016, 12:37:18 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on February 10, 2016, 12:37:18 AM
I've more or less conceded defeat around being gendered correctly on the phone by strangers. Even when I ring up and say my name I inevitably get called sir/mate. In Australia the formal/informal address for men is usually sir/mate and for women it'll be madam or miss (formal) and love/dear/darlin' (informal).
Today I called up an office at the local post office in an area where they are usually very informal - every single time so far I've called up, identified myself as Grace and then been called "mate". I didn't even bother identifying myself this time, just what organisation I was from and got called "love"... I was so taken aback and flummoxed I could barely stammer out the order I had called for.
Stunned. Utterly stunned. ;D
Today I called up an office at the local post office in an area where they are usually very informal - every single time so far I've called up, identified myself as Grace and then been called "mate". I didn't even bother identifying myself this time, just what organisation I was from and got called "love"... I was so taken aback and flummoxed I could barely stammer out the order I had called for.
Stunned. Utterly stunned. ;D
Title: Re: Got gendered RIGHT on the phone... still stunned
Post by: stephaniec on February 10, 2016, 12:55:18 AM
Post by: stephaniec on February 10, 2016, 12:55:18 AM
it's only happened to me once.
Title: Re: Got gendered RIGHT on the phone... still stunned
Post by: Jessie Ann on February 10, 2016, 01:03:10 AM
Post by: Jessie Ann on February 10, 2016, 01:03:10 AM
Congrats girl.
Title: Re: Got gendered RIGHT on the phone... still stunned
Post by: Mariah on February 10, 2016, 01:16:04 AM
Post by: Mariah on February 10, 2016, 01:16:04 AM
Congrats Grace. I know it feels good when it happens. Hugs
Mariah
Mariah
Title: Re: Got gendered RIGHT on the phone... still stunned
Post by: Stella Sophia on February 10, 2016, 02:12:30 AM
Post by: Stella Sophia on February 10, 2016, 02:12:30 AM
Working at a call center for 10 hours a day and talking all of that time, my female voice developed really well. I am confident that the most passable thing about me is my voice, I never need to announce my name I am always gendered properly. Why am I here to tell you all of that? Because I wasn't always this way and struggled with the voice, but I am living proof that if you practice it non stop and don't let up that it will happen. A few tips if I may.
Stay out of your male tone if possible, try and let it become defunct through atrophy (not using it) Some trans like to toggle back and forth between boy and girl voice but its my experience that it is more successful staying in female.
Don't stop or take too long a break. Having spent half a year full time out at work and speaking with my female voice for thousands of calls, I notice the more I am doing it daily, the better I am. I had some week long vacations in this timeframe and I noticed when I stopped using the female voice it would slowly go away and I'd have to work it back up. A female voice is not natural for us unfortunately, at least until you make it natural.
Always be aware of your voice, by this I mean when you're alone and talking to yourself don't let yourself rest on your male voice, make it a habit.
Don't be afraid to experiment and find your voice, even with months of practice I am still picking up different inflections and words that I like. Don't be afraid to mix things up with your voice.
You don't have to have just one voice, you can have multiple female voices. I have my more relaxed and lower pitched leisure voice and then I have my higher pitched professional voice, and then I have my super high valley girl pitch which I use for fun. Just like a cis female you have more than just one range, so don't be afraid if you discover more than one.
Last thing, make yourself become long winded in some way shape or form. For me I want to keep my female voice worked out everyday, so when I don't have work and I tend to want to just keep to myself I have to find some ways to keep my mouth going. So I started a video blog where on my days off I will spend at least a half hour talking.
So there it is, us girl's become too hard on ourselves and think we cant sound feminine when in reality we can, it just takes unrelenting determination to where you make yourself never give up. Hope this helps.
Stay out of your male tone if possible, try and let it become defunct through atrophy (not using it) Some trans like to toggle back and forth between boy and girl voice but its my experience that it is more successful staying in female.
Don't stop or take too long a break. Having spent half a year full time out at work and speaking with my female voice for thousands of calls, I notice the more I am doing it daily, the better I am. I had some week long vacations in this timeframe and I noticed when I stopped using the female voice it would slowly go away and I'd have to work it back up. A female voice is not natural for us unfortunately, at least until you make it natural.
Always be aware of your voice, by this I mean when you're alone and talking to yourself don't let yourself rest on your male voice, make it a habit.
Don't be afraid to experiment and find your voice, even with months of practice I am still picking up different inflections and words that I like. Don't be afraid to mix things up with your voice.
You don't have to have just one voice, you can have multiple female voices. I have my more relaxed and lower pitched leisure voice and then I have my higher pitched professional voice, and then I have my super high valley girl pitch which I use for fun. Just like a cis female you have more than just one range, so don't be afraid if you discover more than one.
Last thing, make yourself become long winded in some way shape or form. For me I want to keep my female voice worked out everyday, so when I don't have work and I tend to want to just keep to myself I have to find some ways to keep my mouth going. So I started a video blog where on my days off I will spend at least a half hour talking.
So there it is, us girl's become too hard on ourselves and think we cant sound feminine when in reality we can, it just takes unrelenting determination to where you make yourself never give up. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Got gendered RIGHT on the phone... still stunned
Post by: Ms Grace on February 10, 2016, 02:15:03 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on February 10, 2016, 02:15:03 AM
Well I think my voice has improved a fair bit over the past year. The phone was always a tough one to crack so this was like a minor miracle. Mind you, it may have been a one off experience but I'll take what I can get!! ;D
Title: Re: Got gendered RIGHT on the phone... still stunned
Post by: Lcleo on February 10, 2016, 03:48:30 AM
Post by: Lcleo on February 10, 2016, 03:48:30 AM
Lucky you
Title: Re: Got gendered RIGHT on the phone... still stunned
Post by: rosinstraya on February 10, 2016, 05:27:57 AM
Post by: rosinstraya on February 10, 2016, 05:27:57 AM
Grace, I think you forgot the darl'/doll (or a mangling of the two) option. :)
Title: Re: Got gendered RIGHT on the phone... still stunned
Post by: Promethea on February 10, 2016, 08:02:21 AM
Post by: Promethea on February 10, 2016, 08:02:21 AM
What a feeling, Grace!
I'm working in a call center, and without doing any conscious effort to change or train my voice I get gendered correctly more often than not. It goes to prove that pitch isn't everything.
If you are in the right place, if you can simply let go of the previous conditioning, your voice will come out feminine (whatever that means), even if deep. I may want to work on my pitch later, after taking care of other things that require most of my focus and energy, but in the meantime I'm quite happy sounding like Bea Arthur!
I'm working in a call center, and without doing any conscious effort to change or train my voice I get gendered correctly more often than not. It goes to prove that pitch isn't everything.
If you are in the right place, if you can simply let go of the previous conditioning, your voice will come out feminine (whatever that means), even if deep. I may want to work on my pitch later, after taking care of other things that require most of my focus and energy, but in the meantime I'm quite happy sounding like Bea Arthur!
Title: Re: Got gendered RIGHT on the phone... still stunned
Post by: Ms Grace on February 10, 2016, 01:24:38 PM
Post by: Ms Grace on February 10, 2016, 01:24:38 PM
I know quite a few genetic women who I would consider to have low pitched (as opposed to deep pitched) voices. They still sound like women but they certainly aren't highly pitched. The voice is such a remarkable balancing act!