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Title: Girl Talk?
Post by: Ember Lewis on October 14, 2007, 06:16:46 PM
Post by: Ember Lewis on October 14, 2007, 06:16:46 PM
Recently I have bumped into conversations with other girls where periods came up. I'm not shure how to respond? I was PMSing one day and had another girl ask if I was having my period? I was so taken of guard as I am always thinking I don't pass. I hate lying but don't want to give myself away, I thought about saying I have a utiris problem and can't have kids and therefore periods too, but that would be lying, it just doesn't seem right to me. I'm stuck on this one and don't know what to do but be quiet, and I can't help but think that too will give myself away. Any one have any advice on this? ???
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: LynnER on October 14, 2007, 06:22:16 PM
Post by: LynnER on October 14, 2007, 06:22:16 PM
Good advice... no...
Personaly Id lie if I had to..... Say you dont have them due to athletics... girls who run or workout allot tend to have lighter and sometimes non existant periods... and so many other things... But thats not good advice, Its what Id do if I had to. *Ugh*
Personaly Id lie if I had to..... Say you dont have them due to athletics... girls who run or workout allot tend to have lighter and sometimes non existant periods... and so many other things... But thats not good advice, Its what Id do if I had to. *Ugh*
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Kat on October 14, 2007, 06:38:06 PM
Post by: Kat on October 14, 2007, 06:38:06 PM
I had a friend of mine ask if I was pregnant after being sick two weekends in a row :-\ I haven't had the period topic come up yet, but I always worry it will. I too am clueless as to what to say if it does come up.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Yvonne on October 14, 2007, 06:40:55 PM
Post by: Yvonne on October 14, 2007, 06:40:55 PM
Quote from: Ember LRecently I have bumped into conversations with other girls where periods came up. I'm not shure how to respond? Any one have any advice on this?
You lie through your teeth and tell them about the time you stopped having a period for a few days after sleeping with a lad, and how worried you were because you thought you were pregnant.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Kate on October 14, 2007, 06:44:02 PM
Post by: Kate on October 14, 2007, 06:44:02 PM
Quote from: Ember L on October 14, 2007, 06:16:46 PM
I was PMSing one day and had another girl ask if I was having my period?
Not to sound naive (I am!), but... is this something girl's routinely ask one another?
I mean OK, I've had girls talk to be *about* their periods in a generic sense, even BEFORE transitioning, but to just flat out ask if someone is HAVING their period seems kinda personal and rude?
~Kate~
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: LynnER on October 14, 2007, 06:51:14 PM
Post by: LynnER on October 14, 2007, 06:51:14 PM
Girls talk and ask about EVERYTHING...
You though sitting with your guy friends pre transition listing about who "banged" who was bad... Just wait till you hear the women get into it...
They will ask about intimate details you would have never given before and worse LoL, Actualy its allot of fun once she shock and horror wear off... On the period thing it seems kinda routine to know about when its going to hit yourself, and your friends... and women that spend allot of time together tend to slowly end up on the same cycle...
I do have this to say... Be VERY happy you dont have to deal with any of that physicaly... Its incredable the threshold for pain tolorance you develop...
You though sitting with your guy friends pre transition listing about who "banged" who was bad... Just wait till you hear the women get into it...
They will ask about intimate details you would have never given before and worse LoL, Actualy its allot of fun once she shock and horror wear off... On the period thing it seems kinda routine to know about when its going to hit yourself, and your friends... and women that spend allot of time together tend to slowly end up on the same cycle...
I do have this to say... Be VERY happy you dont have to deal with any of that physicaly... Its incredable the threshold for pain tolorance you develop...
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: mikke on October 14, 2007, 07:36:08 PM
Post by: mikke on October 14, 2007, 07:36:08 PM
Can't you say you had a hysto?
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Suzy on October 14, 2007, 07:43:14 PM
Post by: Suzy on October 14, 2007, 07:43:14 PM
Yep, girls talk about any and everything. Trust me, they hold NOTHING back! Best thing you can do when asked about your period is give a vague answer like:
- I had no idea it showed
- Looks like it won't be long now
- It's certainly my gripy time, know what I mean?
- Seems like that's always the case
- If not, something's got me pms-ing.
It's also not a bad idea to carry a panty liner in your purse. I actually got asked for one in a rest room. I happen to have "borrowed" an old purse that had a couple inside the pocket.
Good luck!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fganjataz.com%2F01smileys%2Fimages%2Fsmileys%2FloopyBlonde-blinking.gif&hash=4545ddf8251cf9c32ae6074d56e48bc34a755857)Kristi
- I had no idea it showed
- Looks like it won't be long now
- It's certainly my gripy time, know what I mean?
- Seems like that's always the case
- If not, something's got me pms-ing.
It's also not a bad idea to carry a panty liner in your purse. I actually got asked for one in a rest room. I happen to have "borrowed" an old purse that had a couple inside the pocket.
Good luck!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fganjataz.com%2F01smileys%2Fimages%2Fsmileys%2FloopyBlonde-blinking.gif&hash=4545ddf8251cf9c32ae6074d56e48bc34a755857)Kristi
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: saraswatidevi on October 14, 2007, 08:03:40 PM
Post by: saraswatidevi on October 14, 2007, 08:03:40 PM
QuoteI thought about saying I have a utiris problem
The obvious thing to say is "I don't have a uterus". That is honest and to the point. If she asks "What happened to it?" (and someone will) you say "I was born this way." If she asks any more personal questions and some will you say "I don't like to talk about it." And then stop talking.
I agree these questions are rude and too personal but that won't stop some people.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Hazumu on October 14, 2007, 09:48:34 PM
Post by: Hazumu on October 14, 2007, 09:48:34 PM
...and the ones who KNOW you're trans and accept you ain't shy, either. I've heard the 'you're lucky/I envy you' comments a few times, re: the monthly visitor.
Another friend confided that now that her son is in Junior High (single mom,) she's checking out eHarmony 'cause she just wants to [__________]. (I went with it and suggested a few alternatives...)
But I've always been willing to share that kind of intimate information. It just didn't work out well in the guy world. Here in the girl world, it's great!
Karen
Another friend confided that now that her son is in Junior High (single mom,) she's checking out eHarmony 'cause she just wants to [__________]. (I went with it and suggested a few alternatives...)
But I've always been willing to share that kind of intimate information. It just didn't work out well in the guy world. Here in the girl world, it's great!
Karen
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: katia on October 15, 2007, 02:08:19 AM
Post by: katia on October 15, 2007, 02:08:19 AM
Quote from: Yvonne on October 14, 2007, 06:40:55 PMQuote from: Ember LRecently I have bumped into conversations with other girls where periods came up. I'm not shure how to respond? Any one have any advice on this?
You lie through your teeth and tell them about the time you stopped having a period for a few days after sleeping with a lad, and how worried you were because you thought you were pregnant.
ha ha ha ha ha i love it :laugh:
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Nicole on October 15, 2007, 05:25:37 AM
Post by: Nicole on October 15, 2007, 05:25:37 AM
its hard to know what to say, but hey, you could just say "yeah something like that" and get on with it.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Keira on October 15, 2007, 05:35:41 AM
Post by: Keira on October 15, 2007, 05:35:41 AM
I lie.
I'm asked about my past boyfriend,
having a child, period, etc.
Almost every day. Yeah, woman
are quite open about these things.
If I didn't lie, I'd have to out myself.
All my recent new friends are women in their 20's.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: BCL on October 15, 2007, 06:29:43 AM
Post by: BCL on October 15, 2007, 06:29:43 AM
I perpetuate the eternal lie, its part of my being.
Women are very open about what they talk about, because they are more aware of their bodies and unlike men are sensible (and not silly) when it comes to talking about sex or bodily functions.
The only time I do not lie, is when I go to the doctors...
Rebecca
Women are very open about what they talk about, because they are more aware of their bodies and unlike men are sensible (and not silly) when it comes to talking about sex or bodily functions.
The only time I do not lie, is when I go to the doctors...
Rebecca
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Lori on October 15, 2007, 06:59:54 AM
Post by: Lori on October 15, 2007, 06:59:54 AM
Sounds like pretty good advice so far, but just lie. Say "I feel cramped an bloated and I'm probably going to start soon". Its a little white lie. "Soon" could be whenever or forever. Or you could say...."I'm about to start, do you have a plug?" It would be a good idea to keep a couple in your purse with a couple of panty liners as well. You never know when you are going to be asked if you have one to lend out.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: LostInTime on October 15, 2007, 01:53:05 PM
Post by: LostInTime on October 15, 2007, 01:53:05 PM
I have only been asked indirectly so I have not actually lied to anyone.
Pregnant before? Nope.
Given birth? No.
Pregnant before? Nope.
Given birth? No.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: daisybelle on October 15, 2007, 02:50:11 PM
Post by: daisybelle on October 15, 2007, 02:50:11 PM
Am I missing something... seems to me the easiest answer is a partial truth...
Look them in the eye emotionally, and say:
I would think this would stop all questions.
Who cares if they make the wrong assumption.... they already have by asking about your period.
Just a thought
Daisy
Look them in the eye emotionally, and say:
I sorry, but I recently had surgery, and the end result is I cannot have children.
( Wave your hands near your eyes like you are about to cry)
I hope you understand but I really would rather not talk about it.
( Wave your hands near your eyes like you are about to cry)
I hope you understand but I really would rather not talk about it.
I would think this would stop all questions.
Who cares if they make the wrong assumption.... they already have by asking about your period.
Just a thought
Daisy
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: shanetastic on October 15, 2007, 03:01:49 PM
Post by: shanetastic on October 15, 2007, 03:01:49 PM
Quote from: daisybelle on October 15, 2007, 02:50:11 PM
Am I missing something... seems to me the easiest answer is a partial truth...
Look them in the eye emotionally, and say:I sorry, but I recently had surgery, and the end result is I cannot have children.
( Wave your hands near your eyes like you are about to cry)
I hope you understand but I really would rather not talk about it.
I would think this would stop all questions.
Who cares if they make the wrong assumption.... they already have by asking about your period.
Just a thought
Daisy
For the most part, I believe they're just assuming your just like every other girl they know. I don't think they've ever had a girlfriend who hasn't had a period before. That's why I think they're doing the assuming anyways, which makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Lisbeth on October 15, 2007, 03:38:39 PM
Post by: Lisbeth on October 15, 2007, 03:38:39 PM
It's really not an issue for me. All I have to say is, "At my age?"
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: shanetastic on October 15, 2007, 06:04:12 PM
Post by: shanetastic on October 15, 2007, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: Lisbeth on October 15, 2007, 03:38:39 PM
It's really not an issue for me. All I have to say is, "At my age?"
:D Lisbeth. That's the right attitude!
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Alison on October 15, 2007, 06:04:46 PM
Post by: Alison on October 15, 2007, 06:04:46 PM
If you lie that much eventually you will get caught.
Yeah girls talk... a lot.. about everything...
If someone asks "So you having your period now" or something just say no..
If they ask "Do you experience this or that or this" Say no..
You don't have to really elaborate but if you start spinning lies, you'll get caught. You can't really tell when its eminent it just... starts.. I guess you do feel a little weird a few days ahead of time but it's relatively impossible to tell exactly when it'll start.. So saying things like "it's gonna start soon" to me, would sound a little odd.
If you REALLY really really are determined to elaborate -- say something like "It's due next week"
and PLEASE please please don't refer to it as "Aunt Flo" ;)
Eventually the topic fades into something else anyhow, cause noone REALLY likes talking about their periods :)
Yeah girls talk... a lot.. about everything...
If someone asks "So you having your period now" or something just say no..
If they ask "Do you experience this or that or this" Say no..
You don't have to really elaborate but if you start spinning lies, you'll get caught. You can't really tell when its eminent it just... starts.. I guess you do feel a little weird a few days ahead of time but it's relatively impossible to tell exactly when it'll start.. So saying things like "it's gonna start soon" to me, would sound a little odd.
If you REALLY really really are determined to elaborate -- say something like "It's due next week"
and PLEASE please please don't refer to it as "Aunt Flo" ;)
Eventually the topic fades into something else anyhow, cause noone REALLY likes talking about their periods :)
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: tinkerbell on October 15, 2007, 08:57:42 PM
Post by: tinkerbell on October 15, 2007, 08:57:42 PM
I will have to agree with all the liars here ;D. I mean, what can you do? Yeah, you could always say you had a hysterectomy but how many women have hysterectomies? ...and then you have to think about the reason(s) why you "had it done".....what are you going to say then? Cysts? Endometriosis? Cytotec poisoning?
I just lie too. We talk about tampax with wings and how they feel very uncomfortable. Having had some discharge/spotting myself due to SRS, I have some experience, so I just "inflate" the truth a little bit...LOL ;D :D
tink :icon_chick:
I just lie too. We talk about tampax with wings and how they feel very uncomfortable. Having had some discharge/spotting myself due to SRS, I have some experience, so I just "inflate" the truth a little bit...LOL ;D :D
tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Alison on October 15, 2007, 11:17:38 PM
Post by: Alison on October 15, 2007, 11:17:38 PM
Quote from: Tink on October 15, 2007, 08:57:42 PM
I will have to agree with all the liars here ;D. I mean, what can you do? Yeah, you could always say you had a hysterectomy but how many women have hysterectomies? ...and then you have to think about the reason(s) why you "had it done".....what are you going to say then? Cysts? Endometriosis? Cytotec poisoning?
This is what I meant Tink -- if you get into the fact you don't get a period, folks will wonder, and ask. And not necessarily to be nosy, but people care.. They'll wonder if you're sick etc.
Quote from: Tink on October 15, 2007, 08:57:42 PM
I just lie too. We talk about tampax with wings and how they feel very uncomfortable. Having had some discharge/spotting myself due to SRS, I have some experience, so I just "inflate" the truth a little bit...LOL ;D :D
If you want to talk about Tampax, don't mention wings. Tampax are tampons (http://www.tampax.com), and wings aren't an option. I think you mean Kotex (http://www.kotex.com):)
If you want to just say you have it now or something -- I doubt anyone is gonna dive into your pants and check :)
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: katia on October 16, 2007, 02:34:50 AM
Post by: katia on October 16, 2007, 02:34:50 AM
::) ::)
tink, you can always tell them "oh i meant to say always maxi pads since 'tampax' and 'always' are made by the same company P&G" but you know what? in the real world women don't give a damn if you're wearing pads with wings, with feet or with arms. it's only here [at susan's] that ppl are obsessed with 'details'. ::) >sigh<
tink, you can always tell them "oh i meant to say always maxi pads since 'tampax' and 'always' are made by the same company P&G" but you know what? in the real world women don't give a damn if you're wearing pads with wings, with feet or with arms. it's only here [at susan's] that ppl are obsessed with 'details'. ::) >sigh<
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Alison on October 16, 2007, 02:50:19 AM
Post by: Alison on October 16, 2007, 02:50:19 AM
Quote from: Katia on October 16, 2007, 02:34:50 AM
::) ::)
tink, you can always tell them "oh i meant to say always maxi pads since 'tampax' and 'always' are made by the same company P&G" but you know what? in the real world women don't give a damn if you're wearing pads with wings, with feet or with arms. it's only here [at susan's] that ppl are obsessed with 'details'. ::) >sigh<
This is why I suggest not having to cover up too much.
Details can bite you in the butt.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Lisbeth on October 16, 2007, 09:12:45 AM
Post by: Lisbeth on October 16, 2007, 09:12:45 AM
Quote from: Katia on October 16, 2007, 02:34:50 AMHave a Happy Period (http://www.armyofmom.com/2007/04/have-happy-period.html)
::) ::)
tink, you can always tell them "oh i meant to say always maxi pads since 'tampax' and 'always' are made by the same company P&G" but you know what? in the real world women don't give a damn if you're wearing pads with wings, with feet or with arms. it's only here [at susan's] that ppl are obsessed with 'details'. ::) >sigh<
Quote from: Tink on October 15, 2007, 08:57:42 PMLie? No. I can truthfully say that I'm glad I'm old enough not to worry about that. Other women can deal with it now. I can get by with just liners now, thank you. And I do. Excuse me while I go put one in....
I just lie too. We talk about tampax with wings and how they feel very uncomfortable. Having had some discharge/spotting myself due to SRS, I have some experience, so I just "inflate" the truth a little bit...LOL ;D :D
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: tinkerbell on October 16, 2007, 06:31:54 PM
Post by: tinkerbell on October 16, 2007, 06:31:54 PM
Quote from: Katia on October 16, 2007, 02:34:50 AM
::) ::)
tink, you can always tell them "oh i meant to say always maxi pads since 'tampax' and 'always' are made by the same company P&G" but you know what? in the real world women don't give a damn if you're wearing pads with wings, with feet or with arms. it's only here [at susan's] that ppl are obsessed with 'details'. ::) >sigh<
I know what you mean ;). Hey but I'm pretty sure I said "tampax with wings" and no one seemed to raise their eyebrows, show me the "voodoo" eye or give me a URL for Tampax Co., LOL ;D. It's true what you say though, nobody cares about what you are wearing down there; brand names are not mentioned at all. Everything that is said is: "I have to change my saddle"...and then you know what people are talking about.... *giggles*
"Pads with feet?" ROFL, You are funny, Katia... :D ;D
tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Ember Lewis on October 16, 2007, 07:56:21 PM
Post by: Ember Lewis on October 16, 2007, 07:56:21 PM
Thanks for all the responses, I personally would use a semi truth as I just hate lying. What I said at the time when asked if I was having my period was "It shouldn't be". It was such a shock to be asked that as I had never planed that scenario out, I'm glad it happened though, now I know how to handle it better next time. I loved reading all the responses, experiences and opinions...Thanks for everyones support :-*
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Desire on October 25, 2007, 01:03:58 PM
Post by: Desire on October 25, 2007, 01:03:58 PM
I have enough going on in my head all the time without having to remember all my little lies to keep them straight. I've found it is true that women discuss EVERYTHING (great way to learn though) but at the same time it's very easy to answer with a simple truth. Am I having my period..no...have I been pregnant...no....at least I've had a boyfriend.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Omika on October 25, 2007, 02:49:39 PM
Post by: Omika on October 25, 2007, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: Ember L on October 14, 2007, 06:16:46 PM
Recently I have bumped into conversations with other girls where periods came up. I'm not shure how to respond? I was PMSing one day and had another girl ask if I was having my period? I was so taken of guard as I am always thinking I don't pass. I hate lying but don't want to give myself away, I thought about saying I have a utiris problem and can't have kids and therefore periods too, but that would be lying, it just doesn't seem right to me. I'm stuck on this one and don't know what to do but be quiet, and I can't help but think that too will give myself away. Any one have any advice on this? ???
How is that lying? I don't understand.
I would consider not having a uteris to be a "uteris problem".
You're physically disabled, dear. Do a little research on disabilities that prevent women from having periods and kids. Pick one. It's just like naming your symptoms. How can you be lying if you actually have the symptoms of the affliction? You can't have periods or kids.
Come on, now. There's lying, and then there's telling the truth with lies.
I'm such an artist. ::)
~ BB
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Lisbeth on October 25, 2007, 03:33:47 PM
Post by: Lisbeth on October 25, 2007, 03:33:47 PM
Quote from: Blair on October 25, 2007, 02:49:39 PMLies? Having a congenital birth defect that left you without a uterus is the truth.Quote from: Ember L on October 14, 2007, 06:16:46 PM
Recently I have bumped into conversations with other girls where periods came up. I'm not shure how to respond? I was PMSing one day and had another girl ask if I was having my period? I was so taken of guard as I am always thinking I don't pass. I hate lying but don't want to give myself away, I thought about saying I have a utiris problem and can't have kids and therefore periods too, but that would be lying, it just doesn't seem right to me. I'm stuck on this one and don't know what to do but be quiet, and I can't help but think that too will give myself away. Any one have any advice on this? ???
How is that lying? I don't understand.
I would consider not having a uteris to be a "uteris problem".
You're physically disabled, dear. Do a little research on disabilities that prevent women from having periods and kids. Pick one. It's just like naming your symptoms. How can you be lying if you actually have the symptoms of the affliction? You can't have periods or kids.
Come on, now. There's lying, and then there's telling the truth with lies.
I'm such an artist. ::)
~ BB
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Omika on October 25, 2007, 04:54:24 PM
Post by: Omika on October 25, 2007, 04:54:24 PM
That's... what I said. I think. Did I say something wrong? You intimidate me. That cat looks scary. I am doubting myself now. Stop staring!
Someone help!
~ BB
Someone help!
~ BB
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: gothique11 on October 25, 2007, 05:53:17 PM
Post by: gothique11 on October 25, 2007, 05:53:17 PM
Quote from: Tink on October 16, 2007, 06:31:54 PMQuote from: Katia on October 16, 2007, 02:34:50 AM
::) ::)
tink, you can always tell them "oh i meant to say always maxi pads since 'tampax' and 'always' are made by the same company P&G" but you know what? in the real world women don't give a damn if you're wearing pads with wings, with feet or with arms. it's only here [at susan's] that ppl are obsessed with 'details'. ::) >sigh<
I know what you mean ;). Hey but I'm pretty sure I said "tampax with wings" and no one seemed to raise their eyebrows, show me the "voodoo" eye or give me a URL for Tampax Co., LOL ;D. It's true what you say though, nobody cares about what you are wearing down there; brand names are not mentioned at all. Everything that is said is: "I have to change my saddle"...and then you know what people are talking about.... *giggles*
"Pads with feet?" ROFL, You are funny, Katia... :D ;D
tink :icon_chick:
Arg, I hate tampax with wings, they alway keep flying away on me. I had to get a butterfly net just for that!
--natalie ;D
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Lisbeth on October 25, 2007, 07:22:08 PM
Post by: Lisbeth on October 25, 2007, 07:22:08 PM
Quote from: Blair on October 25, 2007, 04:54:24 PMWhat? You're intimidated by Night, my familiar? Pshaw! He wouldn't hurt a fly. Well, actually he loves to catch flies, but you're not a fly.
That's... what I said. I think. Did I say something wrong? You intimidate me. That cat looks scary. I am doubting myself now. Stop staring!
Someone help!
~ BB
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: pretty pauline on November 15, 2007, 05:14:40 PM
Post by: pretty pauline on November 15, 2007, 05:14:40 PM
I don't ''really lie'' as such, Im unable to bear children, I'v been asked heaps of times, but I just take a tissue from my purse and dab my eyes when they fill up, ''I don't want to talk about it'' they make up their own minds, yes we talk about pads and liners and most don't really care what we wear inside our panties, women are generally more understanding than men, another good reason why women are more mature than most men, and I love that reply ''at my age'' sadly I'II be using that reply more often in the future.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: NicholeW. on November 15, 2007, 07:10:22 PM
Post by: NicholeW. on November 15, 2007, 07:10:22 PM
I am always astounded that TSes become so very particular about "lying" after we begin to live as who we are. So, exactly how do you view the entire life you lived prior to transition? As The Truth? *smile*
Come on girls. Most of us are gonna swallow 16-60 years and then get squeamish about a tampon or a pad?
Either rearrange your idea of the truth or fugidaboudit!!
I have children and yes, I have talked about how painful their births were. They were, I was there for the deliveries and nearly died because it wasn't me birthing them!! THAT WAS painful.
Now where was the lie?
Come on girls. Most of us are gonna swallow 16-60 years and then get squeamish about a tampon or a pad?
Either rearrange your idea of the truth or fugidaboudit!!
I have children and yes, I have talked about how painful their births were. They were, I was there for the deliveries and nearly died because it wasn't me birthing them!! THAT WAS painful.
Now where was the lie?
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: suregirl on November 22, 2007, 09:11:52 AM
Post by: suregirl on November 22, 2007, 09:11:52 AM
Yeah it just freaked me out totally the 1st time I was asked if I was on-a short curt reply of "yes I am" was enough to end the converation!-can be tricky though as we do talk about everything!-and I mean everything :angel:
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Ms Bev on November 27, 2007, 09:17:34 PM
Post by: Ms Bev on November 27, 2007, 09:17:34 PM
Hmmm.....I transitioned on the job, so EVERYONE knows I'm ts, but yeah, even so, girls..women talk about everything! For me, the potential lies come from talking to my female customers. I get asked about my kids, and yes, I have 2 kids, and 3 grandchildren. And so comes the questions about my husband.......hmmm. How embarassing! Well, I tell them the truth, mostly. I tell them I don't have a husband, I have a partner. Then I talk about 'the' grandchildren, and let them draw the conclusion that I'm lesbian. A convoluted way to the truth!
I still get asked by the women I work with and know I'm ts if I have, umm....you know, periods? I tell them I have a monthly emotional cycle (truth). Next time one asks, maybe I should say I don't have periods, but apostrophes.
period
Bev
I still get asked by the women I work with and know I'm ts if I have, umm....you know, periods? I tell them I have a monthly emotional cycle (truth). Next time one asks, maybe I should say I don't have periods, but apostrophes.
period
Bev
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Nero on November 27, 2007, 09:46:11 PM
Post by: Nero on November 27, 2007, 09:46:11 PM
Wow. I guess I'm not as well socialized as I thought. The only time I've discussed anything to do with that 'time of the month' with girls was in jail, when expressing my disgust at the pads stuck all over the toilet seats (to prevent the prissier girls from coming in contact with the cold filthy steel seat.) ::)
My advice is just to say this: "I can't have periods'" and look like it's a sore subject. If they ask why, say you are unable to have children.
If they delve deeper than that, they're being rude and you're not obligated to talk about it. It is a very sensitive subject for women who are barren and most recognize that.
My advice is just to say this: "I can't have periods'" and look like it's a sore subject. If they ask why, say you are unable to have children.
If they delve deeper than that, they're being rude and you're not obligated to talk about it. It is a very sensitive subject for women who are barren and most recognize that.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: melissa90299 on November 29, 2007, 09:18:15 AM
Post by: melissa90299 on November 29, 2007, 09:18:15 AM
Quote from: Kate on October 14, 2007, 06:44:02 PMQuote from: Ember L on October 14, 2007, 06:16:46 PM
I was PMSing one day and had another girl ask if I was having my period?
Not to sound naive (I am!), but... is this something girl's routinely ask one another?
I mean OK, I've had girls talk to be *about* their periods in a generic sense, even BEFORE transitioning, but to just flat out ask if someone is HAVING their period seems kinda personal and rude?
~Kate~
I am post-menopausal but my best girlfriend accuses me of PMSing all the time. Girls talk about their periods all the time, it is not considered personal at all.
As far as what to say, I wouldn't obsess about because I suspect that girls figure it out eventually as I do anytime I am around someone who thinks she stealth. Of course, I base my experience in living in San Francisco, Ground Zero for trans awareness.
As I am out in some circles and out in others, I can tell you, at least here, that women treat you the same regardless except that I have had girlfriends tell me that they don't appreciate being lied to in the case of TSs making up stories about themselves.
Again, even if one is physically flawless, has a perfect voice and movement (about .1% of the trans population) most women are going to figure it out eventually. (A lot of people have the ability to read the truthfulness of other people, especially women.)
It is called intuition.
OTOH it is great living stealth because one doesn't feel marginalized as trans regardless of what the perception is but if I get really close to someone to the point that we confide in each other, I find it very difficult to lie to them.
Now men are a different story. They totally treat you different if they know. Thankfully, few men have women's intuition.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Lisbeth on November 29, 2007, 02:25:19 PM
Post by: Lisbeth on November 29, 2007, 02:25:19 PM
Quote from: melissa90299 on November 29, 2007, 09:18:15 AMI do get PMS, and one day last year I commented to one of my coworkers who knows my history, "I hate this time of month." She told me, "It comes with the territory, so suck it up."
I am post-menopausal but my best girlfriend accuses me of PMSing all the time. Girls talk about their periods all the time, it is not considered personal at all.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Wing Walker on December 02, 2007, 05:40:11 PM
Post by: Wing Walker on December 02, 2007, 05:40:11 PM
We, as a gender, talk about everything from the guys in our lives, kids, sex, money, menstruation, vaginal itches, recipes, knitting, the boss, whatever. There are far fewer barriers or limits on conversation among women than there are among males.
On my second day at work I was given a test by a woman who knew me as a good friend. She came to my office and asked if her vaginal irritation could be from using her bathtub. I asked her to sit down and I calmly told her what I thought without so much as taking a deep breath.
Whatever the question or the answer, be cool. That's the way we are.
Wing Walker
Too Old to Carry Tampons
P.S. LOL w/ Lisbeth!!!
On my second day at work I was given a test by a woman who knew me as a good friend. She came to my office and asked if her vaginal irritation could be from using her bathtub. I asked her to sit down and I calmly told her what I thought without so much as taking a deep breath.
Whatever the question or the answer, be cool. That's the way we are.
Wing Walker
Too Old to Carry Tampons
P.S. LOL w/ Lisbeth!!!
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: tao on December 12, 2007, 11:40:11 AM
Post by: tao on December 12, 2007, 11:40:11 AM
hi, y'all. julie here. i'm sorry, but this whole thing is sooo funny. First of all, under the circumstances you described, your girlfriend's question wasn't a question at all. it was rhetorical. it was a statement. She was saying you were being bitchy. The typical answer to that question if you're PMSing is usually similar to one of the following: **** OFF, GO **** YOURSELF. I raised 4 girls, been married twice,worked for 30 years with only ladies. I assure you that a response like the ones i mentioned are not only appropriate, but expected
hugs
julie
hugs
julie
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Suzy on December 12, 2007, 11:55:42 AM
Post by: Suzy on December 12, 2007, 11:55:42 AM
Quote from: tao on December 12, 2007, 11:40:11 AM
I assure you that a response like the ones i mentioned are not only appropriate, but expected
hugs
julie
Gee, Julie, maybe we have the same daughter and never knew it!
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Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: tao on December 12, 2007, 12:08:25 PM
Post by: tao on December 12, 2007, 12:08:25 PM
:icon_yes:
btw, kristi, i'm trying to put my picture here but can't find where to post it in the profile. only found the avatar menu. HELP!!!
julie
ps, sorry i'm off topic, won't do it again....
btw, kristi, i'm trying to put my picture here but can't find where to post it in the profile. only found the avatar menu. HELP!!!
julie
ps, sorry i'm off topic, won't do it again....
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Lisbeth on December 12, 2007, 12:39:07 PM
Post by: Lisbeth on December 12, 2007, 12:39:07 PM
I think you have to make 15 posts before it will let you add your picture.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Sarah on December 29, 2007, 09:11:20 PM
Post by: Sarah on December 29, 2007, 09:11:20 PM
So
Here, I thought of a way to answer this as I do not think lying is healthy.
There are ways to redirect, and be honest without showing someone your skelleton.
Skillful means.
I would probably say:
"oh, no, sorry, I have a really irregular period. I just have some hormone issues. I have been seeing a doctor about it." and to ellaborate " I've had some stuff go on for a long time."
There. That way you are not lying, you DO have an irregular (as innot regular period [it doesn't exist after all, very un-regular]) you are not on your period, but it is honest, and helps explain why it might come up again.
That way they actually feel for you, provides an honest(but not full) explaination of why you might take homones if they see you-"my doctor thinks it will help my hormone issues."
Honest, easy, redirected. No Lying, just skillful redirection. Some Verbal Aikido.
That's my suggestion
Here, I thought of a way to answer this as I do not think lying is healthy.
There are ways to redirect, and be honest without showing someone your skelleton.
Skillful means.
I would probably say:
"oh, no, sorry, I have a really irregular period. I just have some hormone issues. I have been seeing a doctor about it." and to ellaborate " I've had some stuff go on for a long time."
There. That way you are not lying, you DO have an irregular (as innot regular period [it doesn't exist after all, very un-regular]) you are not on your period, but it is honest, and helps explain why it might come up again.
That way they actually feel for you, provides an honest(but not full) explaination of why you might take homones if they see you-"my doctor thinks it will help my hormone issues."
Honest, easy, redirected. No Lying, just skillful redirection. Some Verbal Aikido.
That's my suggestion
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: SarahFaceDoom on December 29, 2007, 09:25:42 PM
Post by: SarahFaceDoom on December 29, 2007, 09:25:42 PM
Wow this really isn't a hard one.
No one is going to ask you if you have a period. Because if they think you are a girl, that question is stupid. And if they think you're a male, that question is stupid. They'll ask if you are having your period. In which case you just say "no". Because you're not. And then move on.
Telling the truth is oftentimes more effective than lying.
Plus if you infer to one girl that you have periods. And another girl reads you. And then those two women interact and chat about you. They're going to think you're a liar and not really have much compassion for you.
No one is going to ask you if you have a period. Because if they think you are a girl, that question is stupid. And if they think you're a male, that question is stupid. They'll ask if you are having your period. In which case you just say "no". Because you're not. And then move on.
Telling the truth is oftentimes more effective than lying.
Plus if you infer to one girl that you have periods. And another girl reads you. And then those two women interact and chat about you. They're going to think you're a liar and not really have much compassion for you.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Sarah on December 29, 2007, 09:44:54 PM
Post by: Sarah on December 29, 2007, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: SarahFaceDoom on December 29, 2007, 09:25:42 PMTrue.
Wow this really isn't a hard one.
No one is going to ask you if you have a period. Because if they think you are a girl, that question is stupid. And if they think you're a male, that question is stupid. They'll ask if you are having your period. In which case you just say "no". Because you're not. And then move on.
Telling the truth is oftentimes more effective than lying.
Plus if you infer to one girl that you have periods. And another girl reads you. And then those two women interact and chat about you. They're going to think you're a liar and not really have much compassion for you.
Best advice yet.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: IsabelleStPierre on December 29, 2007, 09:45:17 PM
Post by: IsabelleStPierre on December 29, 2007, 09:45:17 PM
One of the worst things in the world that you can do...in my opinion at least...is to lie. Lies have a way of coming back around to bite you in the ass...and you know what...woman expect men to lie...not other woman! I know everyone will most likely jump all over me for this one...but lying is a very 'male' way to deal with things...but that too is just my opinion
Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
who seems to be in one pissy mood tonight
Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
who seems to be in one pissy mood tonight
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Keira on December 29, 2007, 11:37:23 PM
Post by: Keira on December 29, 2007, 11:37:23 PM
Yeah, but Isabelle, are you really going to say everything about yourself to a random person, or to an acquaintance. Most people lie in part about their background to not have to go into details into things that you would not be comfortable discussing. If someone becomes a close friend, then its ok to disclose, but there is a limit to how open you want to be with someone you barely know. Better lie. They usually understand the rationale if eventually you become friends.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: IsabelleStPierre on December 30, 2007, 01:36:25 AM
Post by: IsabelleStPierre on December 30, 2007, 01:36:25 AM
Quote from: Keira on December 29, 2007, 11:37:23 PM
Yeah, but Isabelle, are you really going to say everything about yourself to a random person, or to an acquaintance. Most people lie in part about their background to not have to go into details into things that you would not be comfortable discussing. If someone becomes a close friend, then its ok to disclose, but there is a limit to how open you want to be with someone you barely know. Better lie. They usually understand the rationale if eventually you become friends.
You don't need to lie to someone about anything, I am selective in what I will tell someone and that is not lying. If someone I have just met asks something I'm not comfortable talking about I just tell them that...believe it or not most people are happy to accept that and most are actually understanding on that standpoint. I personally don't believe in lying when there isn't a really good reason to...
One thing that people either find refreshing about me or completely frustrating is my total lack of a filter and the fact that I won't lie to them...what I think just comes out. At work it wasn't uncommon for people to seek me out to run an idea past me to get an opinion...because they knew I would tell them like I saw it...now with a ton of experience in the area I would also provide constructive advice on how to improve a shaky idea...
I can understand people telling little white lies to help protect a friends feelings...but at the same time...if that dress doesn't look good on them...don't you think they really would rather hear that before they go out on that date???
I live by words and my word is something that is important to me...
But that's just me.
Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Sarah on December 30, 2007, 04:31:29 PM
Post by: Sarah on December 30, 2007, 04:31:29 PM
I think you can be honest with people without disclosing everything.
I don't think full disclosure is nessicarily being honest. It's actually kinda harmful to give out too much information.
I don't think we have to chose between lying and full details, we can just answer in a way that is truthful, and satisfies their question, yet not giving them the kitchen sink.
I mean some details are non of someones business, and we don't have to lie to avoid answering a difficult question directly. Polititians do it all the time, when they go before a congressional hearing. They don't answer yes or no, they just say "If we had 'this' we would be able to do 'that'" it's not a lie, and it does answer the question, it's just not giving a direct yes or no.
I don't think full disclosure is nessicarily being honest. It's actually kinda harmful to give out too much information.
I don't think we have to chose between lying and full details, we can just answer in a way that is truthful, and satisfies their question, yet not giving them the kitchen sink.
I mean some details are non of someones business, and we don't have to lie to avoid answering a difficult question directly. Polititians do it all the time, when they go before a congressional hearing. They don't answer yes or no, they just say "If we had 'this' we would be able to do 'that'" it's not a lie, and it does answer the question, it's just not giving a direct yes or no.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: nickie on January 06, 2008, 05:36:34 PM
Post by: nickie on January 06, 2008, 05:36:34 PM
Avoid it, until you are post menopausal, like me.
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: Lisbeth on January 08, 2008, 09:45:17 AM
Post by: Lisbeth on January 08, 2008, 09:45:17 AM
Heh. Some weeks ago I was in a BECAUSE planning meeting, and my gynocologist had upped my estradiol prescription to the point that I was getting morning sickness. In this meeting I commented that at least I wasn't too old to get morning sickness, and a woman who is a friend looked startled and said, "Are you pregnant?!" 8)
Title: Re: Girl Talk?
Post by: spx_1112 on August 05, 2016, 10:17:25 AM
Post by: spx_1112 on August 05, 2016, 10:17:25 AM
Periods pregnancies. All of that is common girl talk. Hugs Shannon