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Hey guy's I am almost 7 months on hrt and I am experiencing hip and joint pain in my pelvis area and where the joints of my pelvis.

It is sort of a faint pain constantly but it gets uncomfortable and sometimes a bit more painful.

is my hips growing or what can it be who had the same thing and experienced hip growth.

Are these muscles cramps, pain in the bones or just body aches? Cramps can be due to spiro and can be prevented by drinking enough water and eating enough salt. Aches can be a symptoms of too little sex hormones in the body. Pain in the bones can mean cancer which is not good at all.

If you are past puberty (16-18+), then you are likely not growing bones anymore.

I have a lot of cramp & muscle joint pain. Been on HRT 26 years but I think it's age (58)

Quote from: big kim on March 22, 2016, 08:22:34 AM
I have a lot of cramp & muscle joint pain. Been on HRT 26 years but I think it's age (58)

What does your HRT consist of? When did this pain begin? Were there any other changes around that time?

Depending on what you are doing, muscle pain can become more common because the muscles don't have the strength they once had so pulling them becomes a bit easer. If you had abnormal activity and the pain goes away in a few days, the odds are you pulled something. If the pain lasts, you need to talk with your doctor.

As for cramps, I found that potassium added to my diet stops them (bananas, orange juice) but I am not on a blocker that retains potassium. If you are on a blocker, a lack of sodium in your diet could be the cause as well. Check with your doctor on this one because the cramps might indicate a problem.

Quote from: KayXo on March 22, 2016, 07:48:57 AM
Are these muscles cramps, pain in the bones or just body aches? Cramps can be due to spiro and can be prevented by drinking enough water and eating enough salt. Aches can be a symptoms of too little sex hormones in the body. Pain in the bones can mean cancer which is not good at all.

If you are past puberty (16-18+), then you are likely not growing bones anymore.

I would have to respectfully disagree. I actually just visited my doctor last week. Her and I were talking and she asked what changes I've noticed. I told her I've been having slight pains in my hips since November. She asked if it was muscle I told her no. It was in the bone kind of like growing pains I experienced with that male puberty. I feel it in the wings of my hips. Even as I sit here typing this I feel it. Slight discomfort not shooting pains or anything. She told me it was absolutely possible that my hips could be widening. She said she's not fully convinced that the bones just completely stop growing. Mainly because there are sutdies that have shown that as males and females get older the hips do widen. Slowly but it does happen. Same thing happens when a woman is pregnant. Her hips widen further to help with an easier delivery. Not every woman goes thru it but it does happen. So saying that it's impossible I can not totally agree with saying it will never happen. I myself started hrt shortly after turning 27. My hips have widened for sure because I need new pants as they don't fit. It's not fat moving to my hips I know that for sure because if anything the bone is more pronounced now than ever! Sorry for reviving an old thread I just wanted to throw my experience out there.

Rikke,

If your hips are widening, in your late 20's, then you are very lucky. This does not happen very often. Everybody is different and pain is a sign that something may need professional attention.

Amore'

How old are you? Have you had any injuries to your hips or legs? Pain from HRT is not very common. See your doctor for any such symptoms.

Before I dive in, I need to mention I am XX intersex, so what happened to me may just be me. That said, being XX or XY or XXY does not in any way tell the whole story, there are many, many ways that sexual differentiation occurs with respect to genetics. Hence the reality that there are XY females, etc, and the fact is also that hormones themselves cause sexual differentiation in utero, hence the reality that those exposed to super-estrogens or any other unusual hormonal wash can have unexpected physical manifestations.

Ok, so enough Genetics 101, lol..

I had a LOT of hip and pelvis pain once I was on estrogen. The angle of my pelvis shifted, and my hips widened a little bit, and lo, a very nice thigh gap opened up and let the sun shine through, lol.

When I asserted these facts within the trans community, some attacked me as a liar, which was becoming a regular event in those days, lol. I laugh now, but it was devastatingly invalidating at the time.

Yes, also, spiro can mess up your sodium/potassium balance, and can also give you leg cramps and muscle pains that feel similar. Best to have that checked out. I was advised to eat more salt, the iodized kind, because an iodine deficiency can also cause the same sort of pains, and is a potentially serious health risk, as is too much potassium.

So, yes, in my opinion, and I am not a doctor, it is possible that you are having growth, or at least a shifting of bones in that region.

Ask your doctor about it, though. Be sure.

Hope this helps.

Missy

I had the same issue and today I have noticed my hips have become more Pronounced.

Quote from: Dani on January 17, 2017, 03:28:02 PM
Rikke,

If your hips are widening, in your late 20's, then you are very lucky. This does not happen very often. Everybody is different and pain is a sign that something may need professional attention.

Amore'

How old are you? Have you had any injuries to your hips or legs? Pain from HRT is not very common. See your doctor for any such symptoms.

I was seeing my doctor for my 1 year check up. I asked her if I should be alarmed or if I needed to get X-rays or anything. She said no she checked where the pain was (mind you it is not painful bad just a numb pain associated with bone growth) and told me that not to worry because she said it wasn't arthritis or anything. She believes that it's just growing pains. I have also shrunk a couple inches. My feet have shrunk I went from men's 10.5 to a men's 7.5 shoe size. My posture is completely different now. And my men's jeans won't fit anymore due to the risk of me blowing the butt out of them if I bend over. Not to mention the fact my jeans are tighter now and it's not fat around my hips that's for sure. It's almost like they stick out more now than ever!

It could be actual bone growth. From my personal experience, I have had some hip growth in the 10 months of my transition. Pretransition my hips were about 42 inches around, and now they are at 46 inches around. My posture, the pelvic tilt, etc is all different now it's quite nice, though it takes some getting used to lol. But if you're in your late teens, early 20's it can easily be hip bone growth because the hip bones don't fuse until 23 - 25 years old generally.

Do yoga, it helps.

It's possible that you are experiencing pelvic bone growth. The 3 bones forming the outer pelvis meet at the hip socket itself. If you bones are not fully fused then the growth plates will react to the estrogen. There is also some evidence that certain isuline like enzymes that women produce all their life but kick into high production to loosen the pelvic joints during pregnancy is also present during bone repair and Reformation. So there may be a link between that enzyme and the ability of even fused bones to change by amping up ostioblast and ostioclast activity.

Quote from: link5019 on January 18, 2017, 03:27:54 AM
It could be actual bone growth. From my personal experience, I have had some hip growth in the 10 months of my transition. Pretransition my hips were about 42 inches around, and now they are at 46 inches around. My posture, the pelvic tilt, etc is all different now it's quite nice, though it takes some getting used to lol. But if you're in your late teens, early 20's it can easily be hip bone growth because the hip bones don't fuse until 23 - 25 years old generally.

Yea mine have grown 3 inches I know for sure. But I started transitioning after i turned 27. Which is why I brought it up on my check up. I thought something was wrong. My doctor said that she could do some x-rays if I wanted but she assured me that she doesn't see a full reason to do x rays because with the hrt we all go thru a second puberty. She said she's not convinced that the bones fully fuse before your 30's.

Quote from: josie76 on January 18, 2017, 07:33:07 AM
It's possible that you are experiencing pelvic bone growth. The 3 bones forming the outer pelvis meet at the hip socket itself. If you bones are not fully fused then the growth plates will react to the estrogen. There is also some evidence that certain isuline like enzymes that women produce all their life but kick into high production to loosen the pelvic joints is also present during bone repair and Reformation. So there may be a link between that enzyme and the ability of even fused bones to change by amping up ostioblast and ostioblast activity.

That's very interesting. Mainly because that's pretty much right we're the pain is on the wing of my hip and a dull pain in the socket.

Quote from: rikki88 on January 17, 2017, 01:56:35 PM
Same thing happens when a woman is pregnant. Her hips widen further to help with an easier delivery.

I don't think it's because the hips widen, it's because the muscles relax due to the effect of progesterone and other hormones. Ligaments stretch easier.

If there are any studies showing that hip bone fusion does not completely cease until the 30's, then I would be interested in reading them. Until then, I'm personally not convinced. Just my thoughts. Please don't take this as an attack, it is just my opinion.

Quote from: KayXo on February 01, 2017, 01:59:31 PM
I don't think it's because the hips widen, it's because the muscles relax due to the effect of progesterone and other hormones. Ligaments stretch easier.

If there are any studies showing that hip bone fusion does not completely cease until the 30's, then I would be interested in reading them. Until then, I'm personally not convinced. Just my thoughts. Please don't take this as an attack, it is just my opinion.

No I don't take it as an attack no worries lol. I was just going by what my doctor had told me a month ago at my visit. I brought it to her attention that I had some discomfort in my hips. She was telling me she's not completely convinced that your bones stop and cap so quickly. I did stumble across some reasearch a couple months back that said that hips wid n as you get older in males and females. I wish I remembered the site I found it on..... oh well a girl can still dream! Lol