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I just read a post mentioning that Bower went to Thailand for her SRS. Should have taken a note but now I cannot seem to find that post. Does anyone know who was her surgeon?

Thanks

I have not seen anything on Marci having surgery aboard, don't know for sure but would assume her mentor  Dr. Stanley Biber did the surgery but that is only a guess.

Biber is more plausible than Thailand.

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That makes sense.  I might have just misread it... So frustrating that I cannot find that post!

I have read somewhere that other doctor than Dr Biber did her surgery, even though there was no information who was the doctor. I was wondering the same a few years ago, but never found who was her doctor.

Being a very oldtimer I happen to know the answer to this. It was indeed Stanley Biber.

Dr. Biber. There was a news piece on her many years ago when Dr. Biber was still alive. Dr. Biber was my surgeon.

Thank goodness! Mystery solved haha

It's curious that it's not published anywhere. Almost like she doesn't want anyone to know.

Now I wonder who did McGinn's SRS  ;D

Found the post I mentioned: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,86130.msg612587.html#msg612587
It's OP's comment "Note he was the one the Did Dr.Marci's Surgery..." referring to Dr. Kamol.  I wonder where she got this from.

Quote from: bunny girl on May 05, 2016, 09:22:51 PM
Now I wonder who did McGinn's SRS  ;D

My guess is bowers

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Quote from: jfong on May 07, 2016, 02:47:27 AM
My guess is bowers

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Haha funny

I have read that it wasn't Dr Biber.  Dr Bowers had SRS before she ever met Dr Biber.  I suggest it was Dr. Toby Meltzer.  They both have a history in Oregon.

Her bio says she was born in 1958 and first attempted transition at age 19.  She is said to have "completed" it 20 years later.  That would place her SRS in 1997.

If she first met Dr Biber in 2000 and had SRS before that, it couldn't have been Dr Biber.

This from Dr Bower's Website:

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The Second Wave
As the transgender movement slowly ambled forward, new physicians expressed interest in the field. In the US, these surgeons included Dr. Eugene Schrang and Dr. Toby Meltzer, both plastic surgeons. Each spent time observing Dr. Biber, adopting his protocols and then modifying the technique, predicated by their own standards and experience. In Montreal, Dr. Yvan Menard and later, Dr. Pierre Brassard arrived on the scene but adopted a single stage approach to MTF vaginoplasty. Dr. Bowers, who first met Dr. Biber in may 2000, left her practice to join Dr. Biber in January 2003. Primarily on the basis of age, Dr. Biber was unable to retain malpractice insurance beyond age 80, thereby foreshortening the apprenticeship of Dr. Bowers. She realized, however, that Dr. Biber's technique, reproducible as it was, needed modernization. She approached US surgeons but was rebuffed. Fearing competition, some said, these surgeons were unwilling to educate Dr. Bowers or share their experience. Fortunately, Dr. Brassard offered gracious tutelage. Dr. Bowers has gone on to share her knowledge and techniques with many surgeons from around the world. Her training of Osteopathic Plastic Surgery Director Sherman Leis allowed residency education for a new generation of transgender surgeons including Drs. Christine McGinn, Charles Garramone and Kathy Rumer. Dr. Bowers has also carried her knowledge overseas to the country of Israel. Visitors to her practice include surgeons from Australia, China, Mexico, Brazil, Belgium and Serbia, among others.
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My question, which won't get me any popularity points, is why does it matter? Sorry if I seem rude :/ Not sure how this is helpful to anyone but then again, the history as Randi quoted, is interesting I guess  ???

- Ruby

Quote from: Randi on May 10, 2016, 02:42:17 PM
I have read that it wasn't Dr Biber.  Dr Bowers had SRS before she ever met Dr Biber.  I suggest it was Dr. Toby Meltzer.  They both have a history in Oregon.

Her bio says she was born in 1958 and first attempted transition at age 19.  She is said to have "completed" it 20 years later.  That would place her SRS in 1997.

If she first met Dr Biber in 2000 and had SRS before that, it couldn't have been Dr Biber.

This from Dr Bower's Website:

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The Second Wave
As the transgender movement slowly ambled forward, new physicians expressed interest in the field. In the US, these surgeons included Dr. Eugene Schrang and Dr. Toby Meltzer, both plastic surgeons. Each spent time observing Dr. Biber, adopting his protocols and then modifying the technique, predicated by their own standards and experience. In Montreal, Dr. Yvan Menard and later, Dr. Pierre Brassard arrived on the scene but adopted a single stage approach to MTF vaginoplasty. Dr. Bowers, who first met Dr. Biber in may 2000, left her practice to join Dr. Biber in January 2003. Primarily on the basis of age, Dr. Biber was unable to retain malpractice insurance beyond age 80, thereby foreshortening the apprenticeship of Dr. Bowers. She realized, however, that Dr. Biber's technique, reproducible as it was, needed modernization. She approached US surgeons but was rebuffed. Fearing competition, some said, these surgeons were unwilling to educate Dr. Bowers or share their experience. Fortunately, Dr. Brassard offered gracious tutelage. Dr. Bowers has gone on to share her knowledge and techniques with many surgeons from around the world. Her training of Osteopathic Plastic Surgery Director Sherman Leis allowed residency education for a new generation of transgender surgeons including Drs. Christine McGinn, Charles Garramone and Kathy Rumer. Dr. Bowers has also carried her knowledge overseas to the country of Israel. Visitors to her practice include surgeons from Australia, China, Mexico, Brazil, Belgium and Serbia, among others.
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Good point! Guess we will never find out unless Bower tells us when asked  :laugh:

She's not telling anyone, so why would that be? That kind of makes me wonder if it was a Thai surgeon.

Dr. Schrang  (passed away circa 05?) was pretty active back then-wonder if it was him?