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Title: "transgenders"
Post by: Draculess on May 19, 2016, 01:09:32 AM
Post by: Draculess on May 19, 2016, 01:09:32 AM
anyone else profoundly sick of hearing people use transgender as a noun? sometimes people mean well, but man it has a real dehumanizing ring to it when people are on about "transgenders want this and that" and "I think transgenders should do x". like geez dude way to reduce someone to a medical condition. not as bad as ->-bleeped-<-, but it starts feeling about the same way after a while, especially after you correct someone and they keep right on doing it. I'm a transgender woman, not a transgender. it's kind of like saying "blacks" or something.
you guys feel me?
you guys feel me?
Title: Re: "transgenders"
Post by: Dena on May 19, 2016, 01:53:58 AM
Post by: Dena on May 19, 2016, 01:53:58 AM
I understand somewhat where you are coming from. I have been living under a rock for around 30 years and was stunned when I found Susan's with the banner "Transgender" across the top of each page. When I was in treatment, We knew about the word Transgender but we addressed ourself as Transsexual because that was the construct of the therapy group. People wouldn't pay to be a member of a group who's primary goal was to transition unless they were transitioning.
For us Transgender included us and something else that wasn't very well defined at the time. Not being a part of the community for all those years meant that the non binary was a complete mystery to me at first. I understand now how it all fits together and I fully admit to my transgender heritage but for me personally the word transsexual feels more descriptive of what I was.
For us Transgender included us and something else that wasn't very well defined at the time. Not being a part of the community for all those years meant that the non binary was a complete mystery to me at first. I understand now how it all fits together and I fully admit to my transgender heritage but for me personally the word transsexual feels more descriptive of what I was.
Title: Re: "transgenders"
Post by: Elis on May 19, 2016, 04:08:51 AM
Post by: Elis on May 19, 2016, 04:08:51 AM
Yeah this annoys me too. Transgenders makes us sound like we have some kind of mental issue or we're some kind of race unto ourselves. Similar to trangenderism. I guess people don't realise how inaccurate it is or offensive. I guess in time people will learn and it will be one of the bygone words like transexual or ->-bleeped-<-.
No offence if you like to describe yourself as transexual but again sounds like a medical diagnosis and not all trans people 'fully' transition.
No offence if you like to describe yourself as transexual but again sounds like a medical diagnosis and not all trans people 'fully' transition.
Title: Re: "transgenders"
Post by: Dee Marshall on May 19, 2016, 04:22:18 AM
Post by: Dee Marshall on May 19, 2016, 04:22:18 AM
"->-bleeped-<-" bothers me too, particularly as it's used in the ISO(?) Standards. My endo lists that as my official diagnosis, but it sounds more like a life choice or a philosophy than a medical conditional. It trivializes us. As to "transgenders" as a noun, I was never really offended by the use of conditions as a noun when it was from the outside, "mentally ill" as opposed to "people with a mental illness", but I was conditioned against using it in my training. Now, from the inside, I get it.
Title: Re: "transgenders"
Post by: LizK on May 19, 2016, 05:49:23 AM
Post by: LizK on May 19, 2016, 05:49:23 AM
I saw an endocrinologist a few months back at the insistence of my Dr and when I explained why I did not want Testosterone injections she said to me
"Well I guess being a transgender you won't want Testosterone, in my experience most Transgenders don't"
That is about the time you wish you had a custard pie to hurl at them...Slapstick food fight style
Liz
"Well I guess being a transgender you won't want Testosterone, in my experience most Transgenders don't"
That is about the time you wish you had a custard pie to hurl at them...Slapstick food fight style
Liz
Title: Re: "transgenders"
Post by: Elis on May 19, 2016, 05:52:27 AM
Post by: Elis on May 19, 2016, 05:52:27 AM
Quote from: ElizabethK on May 19, 2016, 05:49:23 AM
I saw an endocrinologist a few months back at the insistence of my Dr and when I explained why I did not want Testosterone injections she said to me
"Well I guess being a transgender you won't want Testosterone, in my experience most Transgenders don't"
That is about the time you wish you had a custard pie to hurl at them...Slapstick food fight style
Liz
WTH does that even mean :eusa_wall:
Title: Re: "transgenders"
Post by: suzifrommd on May 19, 2016, 06:10:02 AM
Post by: suzifrommd on May 19, 2016, 06:10:02 AM
Quote from: Draculess on May 19, 2016, 01:09:32 AM
anyone else profoundly sick of hearing people use transgender as a noun?
Me me me.
Almost as bad as when used as a verb, "transgendered".
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