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Title: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 04:12:22 AM
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 04:12:22 AM
Has anyone transitioned after 22 and did it work out even though you where older?
I ask because I've just been thinking about somethings i don't really want to discuss or know how
but i'm just wondering if transitioning older has worked out just the same as if you did it younger.
I ask because someone once told me 23 was best bet because of bone growth stopping around that age,
and to transition as soon as possible.
I ask because I've just been thinking about somethings i don't really want to discuss or know how
but i'm just wondering if transitioning older has worked out just the same as if you did it younger.
I ask because someone once told me 23 was best bet because of bone growth stopping around that age,
and to transition as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Ms Grace on May 29, 2016, 04:30:46 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 29, 2016, 04:30:46 AM
There are many, many, many trans men who have transitioned successfully after that age and older.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 04:32:46 AM
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 04:32:46 AM
Quote from: Ms Grace on May 29, 2016, 04:30:46 AMJust curious, do you know of anyone celeb or anyone who has transitioned when they where older?
There are many, many, many trans men who have transitioned successfully after that age and older.
I'd like to look it up.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Ms Grace on May 29, 2016, 05:05:18 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 29, 2016, 05:05:18 AM
Chaz Bono (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaz_Bono) is the only celeb I know of.
A friend of mine transitioned around the age of 25 or 26 and he's doing great some 6 or so years later.
A friend of mine transitioned around the age of 25 or 26 and he's doing great some 6 or so years later.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 05:07:48 AM
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 05:07:48 AM
Quote from: Ms Grace on May 29, 2016, 05:05:18 AM
Chaz Bono (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaz_Bono) is the only celeb I know of.
A friend of mine transitioned around the age of 25 or 26 and he's doing great some 6 or so years later.
Thanks, and that's good to hear i sort of figured but i wanted to actually see because i always see people transition younger i guess. And i worry a lot.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Ms Grace on May 29, 2016, 05:55:59 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 29, 2016, 05:55:59 AM
I think you'll find, especially in the past, that the majority of people transitioned in their later 20s, 30s, 40s... many still do. Age isn't a barrier to transition, in some cases it can even work better.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Elis on May 29, 2016, 05:59:09 AM
Post by: Elis on May 29, 2016, 05:59:09 AM
I had the same worry because the media only focuses on people who transition in their teens >:(. While I'm sure most still medically transition after 20. There are 1 or 2 people on here who are much older than you and I and have begun taking T; which stops me from worrying so much. I've heard bone growth can stop around 22/23 but I think this is a rarity. Most people have their growth plates fused by 18. Because I started T at 21(even though it was late 21) I still hoped I'd grow an extra inch; but so far; no such luck ::). Although I've heard that T can do something to the muscles which might make you very slightly taller so still hoping for that.
There was a thread on here about if taking T works slower if you're older but I don't think there's much in it. Taking T at any age will produce the same effects :)
There was a thread on here about if taking T works slower if you're older but I don't think there's much in it. Taking T at any age will produce the same effects :)
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: JoanneB on May 29, 2016, 06:05:46 AM
Post by: JoanneB on May 29, 2016, 06:05:46 AM
Unless you've been living under a rock for the past year there is Caitlyn Jenner, 66, who recently transitioned.
If your focus is celebs, there will be very very few. Celebs certainly do not represent the norm. There was a day, until a decade or so ago that the far majority of transitioners were older, as in 40-50. I suspect the mean age is still up there, but that's a wild guess
If your focus is celebs, there will be very very few. Celebs certainly do not represent the norm. There was a day, until a decade or so ago that the far majority of transitioners were older, as in 40-50. I suspect the mean age is still up there, but that's a wild guess
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Ms Grace on May 29, 2016, 07:00:46 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 29, 2016, 07:00:46 AM
Although he doesn't say so specifically I presume Midnight is primarily thinking of trans men transitioning after 22. :)
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Peep on May 29, 2016, 07:29:24 AM
Post by: Peep on May 29, 2016, 07:29:24 AM
There are a quite a few trans men on youtube, I think Aydian Dowling was in his early twenties when he transitioned, and FinnTheInfincible (UK ftm on youtube) was 38, Charles Asher has been on YT for ages, though i'm not sure how old he was when he started out
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 07:36:10 AM
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 07:36:10 AM
Quote from: JoanneB on May 29, 2016, 06:05:46 AM
Unless you've been living under a rock for the past year there is Caitlyn Jenner, 66, who recently transitioned.
If your focus is celebs, there will be very very few. Celebs certainly do not represent the norm. There was a day, until a decade or so ago that the far majority of transitioners were older, as in 40-50. I suspect the mean age is still up there, but that's a wild guess
I don't really pay attention to the News or TV i know about Caitlyn jenner but i didn't know about her until last year maybe. But i didn't know how old she was either. I'm ftm though, so i often look around more for ftm who transitioned when older its something i just haven't found or heard about much. But i haven't looked around a lot either just sometimes here and there.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 07:41:46 AM
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 07:41:46 AM
Quote from: Peep on May 29, 2016, 07:29:24 AM
There are a quite a few trans men on youtube, I think Aydian Dowling was in his early twenties when he transitioned, and FinnTheInfincible (UK ftm on youtube) was 38, Charles Asher has been on YT for ages, though i'm not sure how old he was when he started out
Thanks for that information, it helps.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 07:44:35 AM
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 07:44:35 AM
Quote from: Ms Grace on May 29, 2016, 07:00:46 AMYea, pretty much sorry i didn't really put to much detail in it.
Although he doesn't say so specifically I presume Midnight is primarily thinking of trans men transitioning after 22. :)
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: FTMax on May 29, 2016, 08:34:12 AM
Post by: FTMax on May 29, 2016, 08:34:12 AM
I started transitioning at 25 and will be completely done by 28. I don't think waiting negatively impacted my masculinization at all. You can look through my Instagram if you want before/after pictures.
Testosterone is a pretty hardcore hormone. It will do it's job no matter how old you are. What you have to remember is that you're essentially inducing a second puberty in your body, so the older you are, the more strange this will appear to others. It seems plausible and understandable that at 18-22 a person is still undergoing some lingering effects of puberty. It's a little tougher for guys who are 30+ to go through that all over again at their age group. It may make passing a bit tougher initially.
You are probably past the point where you could make any different in your height. But it really isn't something to worry about. I'm 5'5" and never get comments about it.
Testosterone is a pretty hardcore hormone. It will do it's job no matter how old you are. What you have to remember is that you're essentially inducing a second puberty in your body, so the older you are, the more strange this will appear to others. It seems plausible and understandable that at 18-22 a person is still undergoing some lingering effects of puberty. It's a little tougher for guys who are 30+ to go through that all over again at their age group. It may make passing a bit tougher initially.
You are probably past the point where you could make any different in your height. But it really isn't something to worry about. I'm 5'5" and never get comments about it.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 09:08:08 AM
Post by: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 09:08:08 AM
Quote from: FTMax on May 29, 2016, 08:34:12 AM
I started transitioning at 25 and will be completely done by 28. I don't think waiting negatively impacted my masculinization at all. You can look through my Instagram if you want before/after pictures.
Testosterone is a pretty hardcore hormone. It will do it's job no matter how old you are. What you have to remember is that you're essentially inducing a second puberty in your body, so the older you are, the more strange this will appear to others. It seems plausible and understandable that at 18-22 a person is still undergoing some lingering effects of puberty. It's a little tougher for guys who are 30+ to go through that all over again at their age group. It may make passing a bit tougher initially.
You are probably past the point where you could make any different in your height. But it really isn't something to worry about. I'm 5'5" and never get comments about it.
I keep forgetting how old you are i honestly should have just asked you haha.
Anyways yea took a look and well first that food ugh, you made me hungry.
And second its nice to see that its the same effects :)
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: purplewuggybird on May 29, 2016, 11:35:08 AM
Post by: purplewuggybird on May 29, 2016, 11:35:08 AM
Something to think about if you decide to transition later is that hormones, although they still work very well, take longer to come into full function. Also, your assigned gender body will likely already he fully developed so you would have more ground to make up.
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Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: DawnOday on May 29, 2016, 12:06:19 PM
Post by: DawnOday on May 29, 2016, 12:06:19 PM
Quote from: Elis on May 29, 2016, 05:59:09 AM
I still hoped I'd grow an extra inch; but so far; no such luck ::). Although I've heard that T can do something to the muscles which might make you very slightly taller so still hoping for that.
I'm 6'3'' would like to be 5'!0" Do you want a couple of inches. I can give you bigger feet too.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: lil_red on May 30, 2016, 04:00:33 PM
Post by: lil_red on May 30, 2016, 04:00:33 PM
Quote from: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 04:32:46 AMMy favorite YouTuber is electricdade. He started his transition at 29. He's now 4 years in and had since stopped making videos, but he looks cis to me. I wouldn't be able to tell if I didn't already know. To be fair though, he looked pretty masculine before he started.
Just curious, do you know of anyone celeb or anyone who has transitioned when they where older?
I'd like to look it up.
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Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Valwen on May 30, 2016, 07:19:39 PM
Post by: Valwen on May 30, 2016, 07:19:39 PM
For a trans guy, try looking up Alexander James Adams he is a folk/filk musician who spent decades performing at ren fairs and conventions as Heather Alexander before transition. Some of his music even has mostly hidden transgender themes in it.
Serena
Serena
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: zeus33 on May 31, 2016, 05:53:08 PM
Post by: zeus33 on May 31, 2016, 05:53:08 PM
Quote from: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 07:36:10 AM
I don't really pay attention to the News or TV i know about Caitlyn jenner but i didn't know about her until last year maybe. But i didn't know how old she was either. I'm ftm though, so i often look around more for ftm who transitioned when older its something i just haven't found or heard about much. But i haven't looked around a lot either just sometimes here and there.
Thanks for the Finntheinvicable tip.
I am 33 and just in the process of finally starting to accept and like myself as I am. I Identified as a lesbian for so long I didn't know this was still possible for me, the massive gaps in memory from childhood along with what I know now has been a persistent dysphoria issue as the cause of anxiety, depression and a case of PTSD. Odd because I realize now that I was basically half transitioned for a while but not admitting it to myself. Just dipping my toes in the water and plotting this whole thing out as for how to move forward from here.
I have had the same questions about T and age, But I have read as long as your healthy and already well past your (female) puberty the results are similar as long as you take care of yourself and are compliant with the regimen.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: jennyrchic on June 01, 2016, 10:00:35 PM
Post by: jennyrchic on June 01, 2016, 10:00:35 PM
After far, far too many years of pain, I am transitioning at 69. I have never been happier or more content. Also pleased that I seem to pass most of the time, unless my voice causes a problem.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Midnightstar on June 02, 2016, 07:07:35 AM
Post by: Midnightstar on June 02, 2016, 07:07:35 AM
Quote from: lil_red on May 30, 2016, 04:00:33 PM
My favorite YouTuber is electricdade. He started his transition at 29. He's now 4 years in and had since stopped making videos, but he looks cis to me. I wouldn't be able to tell if I didn't already know. To be fair though, he looked pretty masculine before he started.
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Thanks glad i found another youtuber to watch iv'e always liked youtube videos they help sometimes
and sometimes not but i still like watching them and when it is helpful its normally very helpful :)
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Midnightstar on June 02, 2016, 07:09:17 AM
Post by: Midnightstar on June 02, 2016, 07:09:17 AM
Quote from: Ms Grace on May 29, 2016, 05:55:59 AMIv'e heard that a couple times but i think some of it is I'm skeptical and i always have to see things first
I think you'll find, especially in the past, that the majority of people transitioned in their later 20s, 30s, 40s... many still do. Age isn't a barrier to transition, in some cases it can even work better.
but once i do i tend to understand, which seeing what i did helped so thank you guys for the comments and helpful information.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Midnightstar on June 02, 2016, 07:11:52 AM
Post by: Midnightstar on June 02, 2016, 07:11:52 AM
Quote from: purplewuggybird on May 29, 2016, 11:35:08 AM
Something to think about if you decide to transition later is that hormones, although they still work very well, take longer to come into full function. Also, your assigned gender body will likely already he fully developed so you would have more ground to make up.
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From sounds of everything iv'e been hearing i think i'm at the point of that and
as long as it does what it needs i'm good :) But i get what you mean
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Midnightstar on June 02, 2016, 07:13:35 AM
Post by: Midnightstar on June 02, 2016, 07:13:35 AM
Quote from: Valwen on May 30, 2016, 07:19:39 PMAh, heather Alexander funny because even before i new about myself for some reason i loved her music
For a trans guy, try looking up Alexander James Adams he is a folk/filk musician who spent decades performing at ren fairs and conventions as Heather Alexander before transition. Some of his music even has mostly hidden transgender themes in it.
Serena
still do. And i'll take a look thanks :)
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Debra on June 02, 2016, 07:16:19 AM
Post by: Debra on June 02, 2016, 07:16:19 AM
yes lots transition after 22. I transitioned at 28 and am basically stealth.
Therefore, it is rather frustrating to watch 18-20 somethings complain about it 'being too late'. SMH
Therefore, it is rather frustrating to watch 18-20 somethings complain about it 'being too late'. SMH
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Midnightstar on June 02, 2016, 07:23:04 AM
Post by: Midnightstar on June 02, 2016, 07:23:04 AM
Quote from: Debra on June 02, 2016, 07:16:19 AMWell, people have to learn and get information so i think it takes time not to say everyone
yes lots transition after 22. I transitioned at 28 and am basically stealth.
Therefore, it is rather frustrating to watch 18-20 somethings complain about it 'being too late'. SMH
learns or eventually understands that but i know for me it took time probably because my information i have on everything around my area is very slim. But anyways thank you, and curious if you don't mind me asking
and if your'e comfortable responding. Are you stealth to everyone or everyone but trans? I ask because sometimes i think about being stealth myself and sometimes i think about being open and active about it my feelings on that for myself change sometimes.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: AnxietyDisord3r on June 02, 2016, 08:31:45 AM
Post by: AnxietyDisord3r on June 02, 2016, 08:31:45 AM
Quote from: Midnightstar on May 29, 2016, 04:12:22 AM
Has anyone transitioned after 22 and did it work out even though you where older?
I ask because I've just been thinking about somethings i don't really want to discuss or know how
but i'm just wondering if transitioning older has worked out just the same as if you did it younger.
I ask because someone once told me 23 was best bet because of bone growth stopping around that age,
and to transition as soon as possible.
Yeah, the bone thing sucks but I pass pretty well after T and top surgery (ftm) and I'm 36. Look at pics of older guys who've transitioned. T does a lot. Of course it depends on your genetics. My voice has dropped just enough that it's not a deal killer that my old voice was. The flat chest and my stress-gut make my body confirm the rest. I don't think anyone even notices my hips. I did switch to a haircut that makes my face look less round. Definitely recommend keep experimenting with hair if your 'do isn't working.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: AnxietyDisord3r on June 02, 2016, 08:33:48 AM
Post by: AnxietyDisord3r on June 02, 2016, 08:33:48 AM
Quote from: Elis on May 29, 2016, 05:59:09 AM
I had the same worry because the media only focuses on people who transition in their teens >:(. While I'm sure most still medically transition after 20. There are 1 or 2 people on here who are much older than you and I and have begun taking T; which stops me from worrying so much. I've heard bone growth can stop around 22/23 but I think this is a rarity. Most people have their growth plates fused by 18. Because I started T at 21(even though it was late 21) I still hoped I'd grow an extra inch; but so far; no such luck ::). Although I've heard that T can do something to the muscles which might make you very slightly taller so still hoping for that.
What happens is that you start standing up straighter post top surgery. My wife was astounded. "I didn't know you were that taller than me!"
Seriously, I'm going to get one of those posture corrective shirts as soon as I'm off post-op restrictions so I can keep sitting and standing up straight.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: AnxietyDisord3r on June 02, 2016, 08:36:07 AM
Post by: AnxietyDisord3r on June 02, 2016, 08:36:07 AM
Quote from: Peep on May 29, 2016, 07:29:24 AM
There are a quite a few trans men on youtube, I think Aydian Dowling was in his early twenties when he transitioned, and FinnTheInfincible (UK ftm on youtube) was 38, Charles Asher has been on YT for ages, though i'm not sure how old he was when he started out
Ryan Sallans was 26 when he started transition (seriously thought he was a lot older) and it took him several years for the T to really change his face and bod but he looks grrrrrr-reat today.
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Elis on June 02, 2016, 09:19:20 AM
Post by: Elis on June 02, 2016, 09:19:20 AM
Quote from: AnxietyDisord3r on June 02, 2016, 08:33:48 AM
What happens is that you start standing up straighter post top surgery. My wife was astounded. "I didn't know you were that taller than me!"
Seriously, I'm going to get one of those posture corrective shirts as soon as I'm off post-op restrictions so I can keep sitting and standing up straight.
Yeah; can't wait until top surgery so I can stand up straighter. I hope it'll make me seem taller too. Glad your wife was so happy about you seeming taller than her :D
Title: Re: Transitioning past after 22? question...
Post by: Debra on June 22, 2016, 08:16:43 AM
Post by: Debra on June 22, 2016, 08:16:43 AM
Quote from: Midnightstar on June 02, 2016, 07:23:04 AM
But anyways thank you, and curious if you don't mind me asking
and if your'e comfortable responding. Are you stealth to everyone or everyone but trans? I ask because sometimes i think about being stealth myself and sometimes i think about being open and active about it my feelings on that for myself change sometimes.
Not sure what the difference is really. I'm only stealth to people who never knew me before or during transition, trans and cis alike.