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Title: Electrolysis and Insurance
Post by: HiddenIdentity2 on August 29, 2016, 11:18:07 PM
Post by: HiddenIdentity2 on August 29, 2016, 11:18:07 PM
Hi, please excuse me if I post this in the wrong forum, and please excuse my english, I'm not a native english speaker. A few weeks ago my doctor asked for a referral and my insurance, which is Aetna HMO basic in California, denied it on the ground that (exact quote): "hair removal or hair transplant of skin resurfacing are considered cosmetic and are not a covered benefit under your plan". Normally I wouldn't have think twice about it, but this is electrolysis for SRS that I'm asking about. I don't know what to do because I'm barely even paying my bills and can't afford to do electrolysis without coverage. Is there anyway I can appeal the case? Have anyone have similar experience?
Title: Re: Electrolysis and Insurance
Post by: TinaVane on August 29, 2016, 11:20:09 PM
Post by: TinaVane on August 29, 2016, 11:20:09 PM
Have u tried groupon ?
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Title: Re: Electrolysis and Insurance
Post by: Dena on August 29, 2016, 11:29:57 PM
Post by: Dena on August 29, 2016, 11:29:57 PM
Welcome to Susan's Place. If your policy covers GCS, the surgeon should be able to write a letter indicating that electrolysis is a required part of the surgery. This link (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,161778.0.html) will show you how a member was able to get their policy to cover FFS, something which is a bit more difficult than what you are attempting.
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Title: Re: Electrolysis and Insurance
Post by: jessical on August 29, 2016, 11:38:07 PM
Post by: jessical on August 29, 2016, 11:38:07 PM
I have had to deal with Aetna with this. I have to appeal each time. When they deny the claim, there is an address you can send the appeal to in the claim letter. I include a cover letter, the claim letter and a letter saying it is medically necessary. I have had some lucky, but it takes time. Recently the last claim I had was denied before it was a claim, and I have had to submit it more than once. In California you can file a complaint, which I hear helps significantly with:
http://www.dmhc.ca.gov/FileaComplaint/IndependentMedicalReviewComplaintForm.aspx#.V79sRIUnE0N (http://www.dmhc.ca.gov/FileaComplaint/IndependentMedicalReviewComplaintForm.aspx#.V79sRIUnE0N)
But I had not done so yet.
http://www.dmhc.ca.gov/FileaComplaint/IndependentMedicalReviewComplaintForm.aspx#.V79sRIUnE0N (http://www.dmhc.ca.gov/FileaComplaint/IndependentMedicalReviewComplaintForm.aspx#.V79sRIUnE0N)
But I had not done so yet.
Title: Re: Electrolysis and Insurance
Post by: HiddenIdentity2 on August 29, 2016, 11:51:17 PM
Post by: HiddenIdentity2 on August 29, 2016, 11:51:17 PM
Quote from: Dena on August 29, 2016, 11:29:57 PM
Welcome to Susan's Place. If your policy covers GCS, the surgeon should be able to write a letter indicating that electrolysis is a required part of the surgery. This link (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,161778.0.html) will show you how a member was able to get their policy to cover FFS, something which is a bit more difficult than what you are attempting.
I don't have a surgeon yet, the referral was referred by my primary care provider who is actually clueless about transsexualism and gender identity. I will look into that.
I know for sure Aetna does cover SRS/GRS, so I guess I will figure something out.
Quote from: jessical on August 29, 2016, 11:38:07 PM
I have had to deal with Aetna with this. I have to appeal each time. When they deny the claim, there is an address you can send the appeal to in the claim letter. I include a cover letter, the claim letter and a letter saying it is medically necessary. I have had some lucky, but it takes time. Recently the last claim I had was denied before it was a claim, and I have had to submit it more than once. In California you can file a complaint, which I hear helps significantly with:
http://www.dmhc.ca.gov/FileaComplaint/IndependentMedicalReviewComplaintForm.aspx#.V79sRIUnE0N (http://www.dmhc.ca.gov/FileaComplaint/IndependentMedicalReviewComplaintForm.aspx#.V79sRIUnE0N)
But I had not done so yet.
That what I intend to do, if possible can you send me a sample of what to write to appeal? I'm not sure what to write other than "This is medically necessary and I'm only having hair removed FOR surgery"
Title: Re: Electrolysis and Insurance
Post by: Dena on August 29, 2016, 11:58:47 PM
Post by: Dena on August 29, 2016, 11:58:47 PM
Quote from: HiddenIdentity2 on August 29, 2016, 11:51:17 PMThat complicates matters a bit because if you are having PI then you don't need electrolysis. Scrotal flap may need it depending on the surgeon. A few think scraping is sufficient and don't want Electrolysis while others want a proper clearing before surgery.
I don't have a surgeon yet, the referral was referred by my primary care provider who is actually clueless about transsexualism and gender identity. I will look into that.
I know for sure Aetna does cover SRS/GRS, so I guess I will figure something out.
Title: Re: Electrolysis and Insurance
Post by: Brooke on August 30, 2016, 07:17:13 PM
Post by: Brooke on August 30, 2016, 07:17:13 PM
I am working through this with Medicare. I went with a letter from my therapist and citations on wpath necessity for permanent hair removal. The letter states something along the lines of "permanent hair removal is medically necessary for a successful social transition and as a prerequisite for GRS.
I took an itemized receipt from my electrolysis provider and accompanying icd10 (insurance billing) codes.
Other things that were in letter was diagnosis, past treatment, current treatments, and future treatment (grs).
I am going the reimbursement route so that might change your path.
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I took an itemized receipt from my electrolysis provider and accompanying icd10 (insurance billing) codes.
Other things that were in letter was diagnosis, past treatment, current treatments, and future treatment (grs).
I am going the reimbursement route so that might change your path.
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