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Title: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Xirafel on August 30, 2016, 11:38:38 AM
Post by: Xirafel on August 30, 2016, 11:38:38 AM
Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-man-volunteers-for-first-human-head-transplant/
CBS News/By Ashley Welch August 29, 2016, 6:47 PM
It looks like almost certain death to me, if they actually go through with it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-man-volunteers-for-first-human-head-transplant/
CBS News/By Ashley Welch August 29, 2016, 6:47 PM
It looks like almost certain death to me, if they actually go through with it.
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: AnonyMs on August 30, 2016, 01:53:01 PM
Post by: AnonyMs on August 30, 2016, 01:53:01 PM
Yeah, I'd agree. Doesn't mean I wouldn't do it in that guy's circumstances though. Pity they didn't ask him what he thought his chances were.
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Emily R on August 30, 2016, 02:13:56 PM
Post by: Emily R on August 30, 2016, 02:13:56 PM
A thought for the day
Fast forward 20 or 50 years... Science Fiction at this time and maybe even then....
If they could transfer just the brain and not the whole head? If that were possible and cost was reasonable would you switch brain with another body of the opposite gender? it would not have to be a cadaver, just someone desiring to be of your existing gender.
Interesting proposition....
Emily
Fast forward 20 or 50 years... Science Fiction at this time and maybe even then....
If they could transfer just the brain and not the whole head? If that were possible and cost was reasonable would you switch brain with another body of the opposite gender? it would not have to be a cadaver, just someone desiring to be of your existing gender.
Interesting proposition....
Emily
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Deborah on August 30, 2016, 03:08:23 PM
Post by: Deborah on August 30, 2016, 03:08:23 PM
I would do it if they could clone me with the adjustment of changed DNA.
It seems weird going into someone else's body.
It seems weird going into someone else's body.
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Michelle_P on August 30, 2016, 04:12:12 PM
Post by: Michelle_P on August 30, 2016, 04:12:12 PM
Frankly, he's looking for medically sanctioned suicide. The odds are massively against this working, or the result even remaining alive for any length of time.
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: KathyLauren on August 30, 2016, 04:21:27 PM
Post by: KathyLauren on August 30, 2016, 04:21:27 PM
Quote from: Emily R on August 30, 2016, 02:13:56 PMThat possibility was explored by Robert Heinlein in "I Will Fear No Evil".
A though for the day
Fast forward 20 or 50 years... Science Fiction at this time and maybe even then....
If they could transfer just the brain and not the whole head? If that were possible and cost was reasonable would you switch brain with another body of the opposite gender? it would not have to be a cadaver, just someone desiring to be of your existing gender.
Interesting proposition....
Emily
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Devlyn on August 30, 2016, 05:09:12 PM
Post by: Devlyn on August 30, 2016, 05:09:12 PM
Quote from: Deborah on August 30, 2016, 03:08:23 PM
I would do it if they could clone me with the adjustment of changed DNA.
It seems weird going into someone else's body.
Must...resist...temptation...to...use...sexual...innuendo.......ah, crap, failed! :laugh:
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Xirafel on August 30, 2016, 06:31:37 PM
Post by: Xirafel on August 30, 2016, 06:31:37 PM
Quote from: Deborah on August 30, 2016, 03:08:23 PMI would go for it, if it's safe and the government doesn't decide to invent 50 ways to mess me around. They love doing that. Lovely people. Useless politicians.
I would do it if they could clone me with the adjustment of changed DNA.
It seems weird going into someone else's body.
Of course, a clone of myself would be optimal. Hopefully, they could clone it without it's own brain, or it would be extremely cruel.
Doubt it would be approved in the Western World, might have to go to China or something. Ethics and stuff.
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: stephaniec on August 30, 2016, 08:49:04 PM
Post by: stephaniec on August 30, 2016, 08:49:04 PM
Well. I'd be able to get rid of my arthritis
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Drexy/Drex on August 31, 2016, 06:51:50 AM
Post by: Drexy/Drex on August 31, 2016, 06:51:50 AM
This was explored by a doctor wnite in the 70,s he transplanted a mon keys head to a other body it worked well enough that the newly transplanted head bit him .....very ghoulish he even worked out how to keep a brain alive with out the body ...creepy
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/dr-robert-white-transplanted-first-monkey-head
So no doubt they will succeed in this latest endeavor
personally i favor using your own cells to grown a new body and downloading into it but thats a way off :(
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/dr-robert-white-transplanted-first-monkey-head
So no doubt they will succeed in this latest endeavor
personally i favor using your own cells to grown a new body and downloading into it but thats a way off :(
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Mohini on August 31, 2016, 04:35:20 PM
Post by: Mohini on August 31, 2016, 04:35:20 PM
Or he could simply die and go into another body seamlessly. No surgery required, but it would require a suicide...
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Xirafel on September 02, 2016, 04:54:57 PM
Post by: Xirafel on September 02, 2016, 04:54:57 PM
Quote from: Mohini on August 31, 2016, 04:35:20 PMDepends on the religion or the presence of one.
Or he could simply die and go into another body seamlessly. No surgery required, but it would require a suicide...
Quote from: Emily R on August 30, 2016, 02:13:56 PMHopefully, it won't cost tens of millions of dollars, although I wouldn't want them to cut corners or they'll send me on a trip to the afterlife. Maybe, I should aspire to be a billionaire.
If they could transfer just the brain and not the whole head? If that were possible and cost was reasonable would you switch brain with another body of the opposite gender? it would not have to be a cadaver, just someone desiring to be of your existing gender.
It really depends. I personally would want to look young rather than old and who knows how many surgical /hormonal modifications the other person has made to themselves in their quest to become their ideal self.
I'm sure all the billionaires would probably snatch up the young beautiful bodies.
Transplanting the head and then the face / hair could work like transplanting the brain? Maybe. I don't know how this works. Otherwise, you're severing even more nerves which you presumably have to re-attach.
Apparently, I'm not a bot anymore. Hooray. :D
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Amy1988 on September 16, 2016, 08:32:46 PM
Post by: Amy1988 on September 16, 2016, 08:32:46 PM
Quote from: Emily R on August 30, 2016, 02:13:56 PM
A thought for the day
Fast forward 20 or 50 years... Science Fiction at this time and maybe even then....
If they could transfer just the brain and not the whole head? If that were possible and cost was reasonable would you switch brain with another body of the opposite gender? it would not have to be a cadaver, just someone desiring to be of your existing gender.
Interesting proposition....
Emily
I absolutely would. Like my brain in Emily Blunt's body. Well maybe her clone because I wouldn't want anything to happen to her. I adore Emily Blunt.
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Shinnok on October 04, 2016, 09:27:03 PM
Post by: Shinnok on October 04, 2016, 09:27:03 PM
I dunno..this seems to be taking things too far as for playing God. There's just some things (I believe) maybe shouldn't be done. If a brain or head could successfully be transferred to another body then wouldn't that be a key to immortality? Unless you have brain damage of course but...does the brain age?
Sorry if this sounds dumb I'm just thinking outloud
Sorry if this sounds dumb I'm just thinking outloud
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Drexy/Drex on October 05, 2016, 07:17:04 AM
Post by: Drexy/Drex on October 05, 2016, 07:17:04 AM
Yes I would think the brain ages however it would not necessarily make one imortal
As the law of averages dictates that eventually one would either get ill or get hit by a bus or eaten by tigers or something
That might take 100 or 500 years or less or more
Scientific research has found that there is a gene which acts as a sort of switch that causes the body to gradually make inferior copies of the cells....that is what ageing is
Eventually the replicate of the cells become so bad the body ceases to function. ..its a built in self destruct mechanism ...so if through gene therapy this switch could be negated ...potential immortality ensures until the space plane crash or tigers scenario. ..so really there is no immortality for a physical body in the end
But how about this one of the rockerefellers family at 100 yrs old recently
Had his 6th heart transplant despite not meeting any of the medical qualifications you or I would have to pass ...shows what money can do so regarding immortality I think it will be the top 1% who will have access to any such technology. ...of they dont have already
As the law of averages dictates that eventually one would either get ill or get hit by a bus or eaten by tigers or something
That might take 100 or 500 years or less or more
Scientific research has found that there is a gene which acts as a sort of switch that causes the body to gradually make inferior copies of the cells....that is what ageing is
Eventually the replicate of the cells become so bad the body ceases to function. ..its a built in self destruct mechanism ...so if through gene therapy this switch could be negated ...potential immortality ensures until the space plane crash or tigers scenario. ..so really there is no immortality for a physical body in the end
But how about this one of the rockerefellers family at 100 yrs old recently
Had his 6th heart transplant despite not meeting any of the medical qualifications you or I would have to pass ...shows what money can do so regarding immortality I think it will be the top 1% who will have access to any such technology. ...of they dont have already
Title: Re: Russian man volunteers for first human head transplant
Post by: Shinnok on October 06, 2016, 07:24:37 PM
Post by: Shinnok on October 06, 2016, 07:24:37 PM
That's what I had thought. I think humanity is far from immortality imo