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Title: The harrassment continues
Post by: Susan on September 04, 2016, 12:47:06 AM
Since I don't hide claims like these, I am posting this utter drivel here in public for your perusal. My full response is included. That's all the consideration this message gets from me.

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From: Brangelina Pitt-Jolie
To: "susan@susans.org" <susan@susans.org>
Subject: Reporting you to the IRS
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:49:59 +0000

I have decided to report you to the IRS.
You steal money from people for your own use without using it for your site. You make money from misleading trans people to believe that you are transitioning. Your pictures obviously show that you are just a crossdresser and that you steal money ( donations  as you call them ) from weak people to fund your own lifestyle.

Let's see what the IRS and the Police will think about this.


This is pure theft since no one ever has seen a receipt and since you need so much money each month which goes into a secret account.

For everyone's sake, let's report you to the IRS. I will do it with pleasure. They will also report you to the police and you might face a trial for fraude and theft.

That's what you disearve after all for abusing people like this.


Let's see how fast they will take your fetishistic '' true trans '' site down. I think very very fast.

You can play a hun behind bars when the IRS will get to know this.


Regards ,

an honest person who wants to save the rest from your disguesting activities.

This is my response. If anyone has any questions please let me know.

QuoteThe site is not a non-profit, never has been, and I have never claimed it to be. What the monthly goal is used for is fully documented on the site.

My medical record, Therapist Letter (May 2000), California Birth Certificate, Tennessee Drivers License, and my entire facebook account proves you wrong on the transition part, as you well know. 

I look forward to talking with the IRS and/or police, I will be sure to show them this email, and the others sent by you and the others to prove a campaign of harassment (TCA 39-17-308), stalking (18 U.S. Code § 2261A, TCA 39-17-315), and what will be clearly false reports and claims (18 U.S. Code § 1001, TCA 39-16-502) by you in violation of the law.

Once contacted by either them I will be talking to my lawyer about coming after you personally both legally and financially. My attorney is Joe Weyant, He handled my name change for me. I am certain that he will enjoy taking this case.

Please feel free to contact him in the future with your threats.

Joe Weyant
Federal Building
116 North Second Street
Clarksville, TN 37040
(931) 503-9089

Be sure to have a wonderful life.

I am not afraid, because I have absolutely nothing to hide.

If you like what you get from this website, then donations are appreciated, if not don't donate. If you don't believe this site to be 100% reputable and above board don't donate. No one is looked down upon, is forced to donate, or is denied access to the site and its resources because they can't or won't help to financially support it. It's that simple. Your donations are a visible and much needed gift saying thank you; nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Dena on September 04, 2016, 02:59:12 AM
I really get tired of all the uninformed judgements that take place against Susan. I will admit that I have had very little direct contact with her but she is so much a part of this site that it's hard not to know her through her work. Running this site isn't a simple operation. For every user on the site there are often 10 guest who don't contribute to the operation of the site. This places a heavy load on the server and require a rather large pipe to the internet to handle the traffic. Susan rents a very small house and the server occupies about half of her front room leaving little room for furniture.

You only need to read Susan's story (https://www.susans.org/susan-larsons-bio/) to know she is transgender and has lived with the same discomfort that we live with. While Susan has run a serve for 20 years, approaching half her life time, there is a story (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,15.msg11.html#msg11) why you will find only 10 years of posting history on this site. Much of that time she paid for the operation of the server out of her own pocket leaving her with little that she could call her own. She had so little that she went for years without HRT because she couldn't even afford that. Yes she may be pushing donations a bit more but there is a reason for that (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,180997.0.html) as well if you take the time to look for it.

While I don't know Susan, I have come to know my boss on the site Cindy. There is a close bond of friendship between Cindy and Susan and that's because Susan has never given Cindy a reason not to trust her integrity. Because of what I have seen, I continue to contribute money and time to the site. You are free to look at my profile and my stats to see how much I believe that the site is being operated fairly and with the interest of the user in mind. If I felt differently, I wouldn't contribute to the site and I wouldn't put in the extra effort required of me as a moderator.

You are not required to contribute to the site if you don't have the desire or money to do so however it would be best to learn the truth about Susan before giving false accusations.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: V M on September 04, 2016, 04:37:17 AM
Wow, who is this person? I sincerely doubt that they are actually Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie

Maybe they should be reported for trying to impersonate celebrities and using that guise to threaten people

The only problem I have with the donation thing is that I wish I was able to donate, unfortunately I often don't even know how I'm going make it through each month

Definitely if my luck should ever change some how I will happily throw my bit in the kitty

Sorry you are having to deal with this kinda stuff

All the best

Hugs

V M
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Dee Marshall on September 04, 2016, 06:56:30 AM
V M many, if not most of us are in the same boat you are. I long for the day when my personal income is such that I can donate. Mostly these days I balance what services are going to be cut off this month so that I don't get evicted. A simple visit to my sister becomes a major undertaking. All that I can do at this time, and especially in light of an attack like this, is express, again, my love and adoration for Susan and Susan's Place. Being here has literally save my life, probably more than once.

Susan, Cindy and all who do keep, or have kept, this place running will always be like family to me.


(Yes, yes, I know. Why don't I volunteer then? I can't give you good reasons. Or maybe I just haven't found my niche.)
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: becky.rw on September 04, 2016, 08:02:24 AM
"no one has ever seen a receipt" ??   Paypal sends out the receipts just fine.
I got mine.
Maybe the guy doesn't know how to use email?
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Paige33455 on September 04, 2016, 08:10:05 AM
Why dignify this blather with a response??  Simply block the sender and voila!  Problem solved.

Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Alice-jones on September 04, 2016, 08:43:56 AM
These internet troll really annoy me, all we are trying to do is get along with our lives and gain knowledge of how we can achieve our goals
This site provides good information to all who ask, I have only been here for a short time but it seems a very friendly place to hang out.
Just block the idiot

Alice x
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Beth Andrea on September 04, 2016, 09:16:02 AM
I had a close relative who was severely paranoid schizophrenic l, and she was known to write letters to the President (of the US) and would claim to have gotten personal replies from him. This relative would also write letters to local law enforcement about imagined infractions by the neighbors, asking for investigations, arrests, and specific numbers of years of incarceration for the (alleged) ne'er-do-wells.

This letter is very much in that style.

I'm sure the Office of the POTUS as well as the police have experience with letters like this, as delusional and/or grossly misinformed people are unfortunately pretty common.

You know you're doing things right, so if the IRS develops an interest because of her letter, then fine, you'll interact with the IRS about it...but you need not reply to this person, because if they are paranoid schizophrenic or uninformed, they won't care about your response. They care about someone paying attention to them, or to acknowledge their "world."

A possible response, if you feel a need to do so, would be something short and sweet, would be:

"Thank you for taking the time to contact me about this matter. I assure you that I will give your email/letter all due consideration.

With appreciation,

(signed)"

Keep it available for a quick copy and pasted (or do one of those fancy schmancy "macro" things I've heard about) and voilá!, a short and sweet "now bugger off" reply.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Lady Sarah on September 04, 2016, 09:57:24 AM
On a completely different type of website I have been moderator / content creator on, I have received various threats. The site owner eventually shut it down, just due the stress from the threats she received.

I am positive that celebrities would not bother with behavior such as is represented by the letter in this case.

If it were not for my low income, and medical expenses, I would contribute.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: DawnOday on September 04, 2016, 10:28:37 AM
I am well satisfied sending in my monthly donation and don't really care what Susan spends it on. Why last month she even went out to dinner. Gasp. Sometimes people just want to be an ass. Is that your goal? Then you have succeeded.  Since I don't need your approval on how and where I spend my money, I will continue to send her money. I am proud to support such a site as this as both the Administration and the site users that make it so vital a resource. We come here with a mind full of mush. And leave as informed human beings.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Hikari on September 04, 2016, 03:41:16 PM
I hardly see where it even matters if Susan were misleading us, and is really the devil incarnate. This site has been deemed by subscribers to be a useful service that deserves funding and they fund it. Susan presumably uses the money to fund the site (and possibly her labor, I mean no one deserves to work for free) and no one is putting a gun to anyone's head telling them to donate. People are free to leave or commit no resources into the website.

It is as simple as this, if someone thinks that Susan is so bad, or is "stealing" from the members of this site, then I think they should put their money where their mouth is and make an alternative and fund it themselves and never ask for the community to contribute their own resources, I hope they enjoy working for free.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: BeverlyAnn on September 04, 2016, 04:06:52 PM
I've been a member of this site off and on since 1997.  I even spent some time in the late 90s as a moderator back in the days when we had individual boards we moderated.  At the time, I had the Crossdressing and Religion boards.  Now, I've never met Susan IRL but I have interacted with her for a long time.  If I didn't think this site was worth it, there is no way I would be a subscriber and no way I would donate when I can.  But I know this site has helped a LOT of transgender people and I know for a fact this site has saved a LOT of lives.  So subscribing and donating doesn't just help Susan or yourself, you're keeping people alive.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Michelle_P on September 04, 2016, 04:57:34 PM
I believe that this letter to Susan may have come from what I believe is technically called a "crackpot".   The IRS gets thousands of these bogus fraud reports every year.  They frown on it.  Technically, it is providing false information to a government agent, a Federal offense.

I bet nothing actually happens.  (I've been on the receiving end.)
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: LizK on September 04, 2016, 05:51:50 PM
Do we have any "disguesting activities"...is that kind of like being a non guest? LOL

This Einstein can't evan use a spillcheckar....and they are right I am a weak person, which is why I support Susan in her obvious attempt at world wide Trans Domination muwhahahah(think scarey 1920's vampire sound)  :icon_censored: :icon_boxing: :icon_boxing:...I mean, come on we "know" what the real agenda of this web site is...muwhahahah

You don't actually provide thousands of genuine lost souls with a light in a very dark place, you don't help prevent the terrible loss to suicide we as a community experience, you don't of course provide a safe place from morons like this one...Oh yeah!!!!! World Wide Trans Domination I say!!!

Seriously though, the haters gonna hate. You do a fine job and provide a great site. If I CHOOSE to donate it is because I support the aims and goals of this site. I for one understand that this is not a non-profit organisation. I think from memory Susan's has actually said I need money for X this month. You have been open and transparent.
   
Yours in weakness LOL
Liz

Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Susan on September 04, 2016, 11:46:05 PM
I received another message, one of the things they claimed was I was self medicating since "No normal doctor would prescribe a crossdresser with fetishistic intentions a course of hormones. That's why you have to self-medicate."

This is my response...

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160905%2F8fd965d4b96d56aa05d4e035592e1b99.jpg&hash=e5e64c276f5617fd5b9d3f597323cf0735c7084e)

I pixelated the last part of my prescription number...

Wanna know why i was off hormones so long? I refused to have a policy against self medicating, and then go and do so my self; even though several people I trust and respect suggested I do so.

The rest was simply a rehash of the first message.

Love you all!
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: LizK on September 05, 2016, 12:18:39 AM
Quote from: Susan on September 04, 2016, 11:46:05 PM
I received another message, one of the things they claimed was I was self medicating since "No normal doctor would prescribe a crossdresser with fetishistic intentions a course of hormones. That's why you have to self-medicate."

This is my response...

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160905%2F8fd965d4b96d56aa05d4e035592e1b99.jpg&hash=e5e64c276f5617fd5b9d3f597323cf0735c7084e)

I pixelated the last part of my prescription number...

Wanna know why i was off hormones so long? I refused to have a policy against self medicating, and then go and do so my self; even though several people I trust and respect suggested I do so.

The rest was simply a rehash of the first message.

Love you all!

You have nothing that needs explaining as far as I am concerned...I must admire you for taking the stand you did..to "give in" (not really a good description) and self medicate would have been a much easier thing to do.

Liz
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: SiobhánF on September 05, 2016, 12:35:16 AM
My admiration for you has only increased after reading your story. You can count yourself as one of my heroes. :)
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: V M on September 05, 2016, 12:43:22 AM
Yeesh, This person's farty attitude knows no bounds

I'm guessing that they are a banned member who is out for revenge and may have rejoined under a guise and may even be monitoring this topic to view people's replies

Give 'em enough rope, eventually they'll hang themselves with it
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: KathyLauren on September 05, 2016, 01:03:56 PM
Susan, I am sorry you have to put up with this crap.  Susan's Place has been a godsend to me in figuring out who I am and where I want to go.  I couldn't have done it without this site.

I understand how the site finances work and that part of the revenue goes to support you.  You have earned it after putting off your transition for 20 years to run the site!  Knowing this, I am happy to subscribe, and to donate a bit when I can.  You can quote me on that if you want.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Lady Sarah on September 05, 2016, 05:51:39 PM
Internet trolls are around a dozen. They love hiding behind the anonymity of their disguise. If I were you, I'd stop giving them information. If they think they have legal support, let your attorney handle it. You probably have enough on your plate, without having to digest what the trolls are serving up.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: SueNZ on September 06, 2016, 04:35:29 AM
Susan, you do not deserve these uninformed, illiterate responses. I do hope they are posted here as information.
You know your heart is huge, your sacrifice is applauded by many.
I think you do not get enough from what you do, have built, have sacrificed, have lost. You are an exceptional leader and it's a shame the very minor percentage who are here cannot see you for who you are.
A beautiful person doing the absolute best they can with the minimum of resources.
You are, and will always, be loved by those that care.
Hugs and love
Sue.


Cheers Sue.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: BeverlyAnn on September 06, 2016, 04:43:15 PM
Susan, are these messages you're receiving e-mail or by PM here on the site?  I seem to remember back in the wilder days when flame wars were common, we used to have the capability of banning an IP address or am I remembering incorrectly?  I'm thinking of a particular person who ended up banned.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: LizK on September 06, 2016, 06:00:57 PM
I used to be a Moderator of a Pancreatitis support site. All the people who used to post on this site were very very sick. But every now and then some random would come into the group and target someone...vulnerable people bit like here. I never understood it then and I don't now. You have to wonder at the mentality of someone who attacks like this, allegations that no one with half a brain would or could take seriously...I think we all know with whom/where the issues really lie and it is not here.

Liz
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: jentay1367 on September 06, 2016, 06:14:31 PM
My goodness! Idle threats under the veil of total illiteracy and poor diction to boot. Really drives the point home....L.O.L.
     Don't let the silly trolls get you down, Susan. And certainly, never, ever, never feed them by answering them. It just emboldens them to engage in further nonsense. That ridiculous missive should have went straight into the trash without another thought. Your Reply does however prove what a sincere, conscientious woman you are. I like that!
                     Thank you!!
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Susan on September 06, 2016, 07:52:37 PM
Quote from: BeverlyAnn on September 06, 2016, 04:43:15 PM
Susan, are these messages you're receiving e-mail or by PM here on the site?  I seem to remember back in the wilder days when flame wars were common, we used to have the capability of banning an IP address or am I remembering incorrectly?  I'm thinking of a particular person who ended up banned.

Email, but the ip is masked by their using a third party email service which does not properly report the originating ip.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Sinclair on September 06, 2016, 08:55:54 PM
Well, new here and I have no bias pro or con to anyone here. But, I can say one of the reasons I like this forum is because it is so inclusive of the entire LGBTQ community. The money thing, who cares. If you got extra and want to give, great. If not, Susan is not kicking you out. I don't have the extra money to donate but I still feel welcomed here.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Susan on September 06, 2016, 09:47:17 PM
Quote from: Sinclair on September 06, 2016, 08:55:54 PM
Well, new here and I have no bias pro or con to anyone here. But, I can say one of the reasons I like this forum is because it is so inclusive of the entire LGBTQ community. The money thing, who cares. If you got extra and want to give, great. If not, Susan is not kicking you out. I don't have the extra money to donate but I still feel welcomed here.

If you ever do not feel welcome here please let me know via forum pm so I can fix it!
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: SiobhánF on September 07, 2016, 09:05:30 AM
Quote from: Sinclair on September 06, 2016, 08:55:54 PM
Well, new here and I have no bias pro or con to anyone here. But, I can say one of the reasons I like this forum is because it is so inclusive of the entire LGBTQ community. The money thing, who cares. If you got extra and want to give, great. If not, Susan is not kicking you out. I don't have the extra money to donate but I still feel welcomed here.

I definitely feel the same way. This community is very receptive and understanding. Even if I weren't transgender, I'd feel welcomed to learn more from all the friendly interaction that goes on, here. Unless you're a troll, you'd be hard pressed to find any type of exclusion.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Arch on September 16, 2016, 05:45:34 AM
Other people derive income from their blogs and sites while providing a service (sometimes nothing more than pure entertainment) to others. I see no reason that Susan cannot do the same, especially after she has delayed her own transition and lived on a shoestring for so long. Sounds like just deserts and good ol' American capitalism to me.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Alexa08 on September 29, 2016, 06:20:44 PM
another keyboard warrior who has nothing better to do with there time other than course grievance and hatred, i don't really know about the laws in other countries but here in the UK a case without viable evidence classed as hear say would be thrown out the court room. i like this forum and have no issue with it at all. The admin, moderators and members have all been helpful and nice to me, i haven't spoken to Susan my self but I'm not one to judge i have no reasons to, i really hope it bites him in the A**, what hes done is rude, self centered and a complete disregard to ones feelings. 
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Susan on September 29, 2016, 06:26:33 PM
One person objected to me asking members for financial help saying, "Seriously???? Asking for money???
She can open her legs Like the rest of us can't she??   Stop messaging me...  I'm in the same predicament"

But as the message clearly stated, "For those who are unable to help out, we understand totally! Many people are in tight financial situations, something Susan understands quite well. This message directed to those who are able and willing to step up and contribute! Anything at all will help!"
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Michelle_P on September 29, 2016, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: Susan on September 29, 2016, 06:26:33 PM
One person objected to me asking members for financial help saying, "Seriously???? Asking for money???
She can open her legs Like the rest of us can't she??   Stop messaging me...  I'm in the same predicament"

But as the message clearly stated, "For those who are unable to help out, we understand totally! Many people are in tight financial situations, something Susan understands quite well. This message directed to those who are able and willing to step up and contribute! Anything at all will help!"

Gah!  I hate it when people make THAT suggestion. It's horrible and demeaning, and I wish that nobody ever has to resort to that.  I know, I know, but what a nasty suggestion!

And Susan, your message is perfectly clear.  Alas, reading comprehension is not a requirement for access to the Internet.  Some folks have Write-Only Minds, and can't comprehend written content longer than three words.

OK, maybe that's a little harsh, but I really wish people would try a little harder rather than living their online lives in Hypersensitive Outrage Mode.  ::)
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: kaitylynn on September 29, 2016, 10:07:14 PM
How strange.  This site is 100% voluntary donation based.  How can one be upset when they are not required in any way to contribute to the site and your well being?

I love this site.  Thank you Susan
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Veronica J on September 30, 2016, 02:21:41 AM
ah man people need to grow up.

give my 60 days i will def be in a position to help out a little, every little bit helps.. you do amazing work and have a huge heart.

this is the best site i have found out there.

Title: Donations
Post by: Susan on October 02, 2016, 05:01:57 AM
I had someone yesterday breathlessly post to my facebook, "Do they know you take member donations for personal use?" I just deleted it, but so you all know this is 100% true.

This web site isn't a non-profit, and I have never claimed for it to be.

After the bills for the site are are paid donations are used for three purpose, establish an operational buffer something that was worn down recently, pay for unbudgeted expenses, and $1400 per month is used to allow me to pay my bills.

$1400 a month works out to a grand total of $8.75 per hour with a 40 hour week, (I work way more than that), and is the absolute minimum I can receive and still pay the bills, and eat.  I could make as much working a whole lot less hours at a convenience store. 

The web site's bills are always paid before anything else. There have been months I wasn't paid through the site at all due to shortfalls in reaching the monthly goal, like for 5 straight months in 2015. 

They also asked how they get in on such a lucrative scheme like that, well here's that answer. First you come up with a idea to provide a service that people need but which doesn't exist. Then you invest over $175,000 of your own money in direct cash, and lost wages and other benefits.

You do so for 18 years without asking for a dime of help from anyone, members cannot even donate during that time if they wanted to. You even put your life on hold to ensure that this resource remains available to the community. When you start accepting member donations it's strictly voluntary, no one is forced to contribute, and no one is denied access because they are unable or unwilling to do so.

Once you finally start being compensated when you lose the job that paid the bills for the web site for 19 years you take the bare minimum you need to survive, then for the next 2 years you don't get any cost of living increases, health insurance, or other benefits.

Now that I work on the site full time, I spend around 12-18 hours per day 7 days a week working on the web site or things directly related to it. That's an average of 105 hours a week (5,460 hours a year) with no overtime pay. If I was given a straight hourly paycheck even without overtime I should be making roughly $47,775 a year at $8.75 per hour, I receive around $16,800.

Really a lucrative deal isn't it?
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Veronica J on October 02, 2016, 05:33:44 AM
yes you are amazing  and have a huge heart, i have split from my partner for 16years and just in a new place by myself... soo waiting on expenses to settle before i can do anything.. and thats heartbreaking, so i know how it feels to not spend money on yourself. i expect to be up to date on bills and CS payments in under 60days, and then i will def donate to this site and to help you. many zen hugs V
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Michelle_P on October 02, 2016, 01:24:41 PM
Some people are so darn dim.

Of course we're paying Susan to keep this running.  What do they think, that Susan is some trust fund baby who just puts in 60 hour weeks for a hobby for the fun of it?  Running a web site with so many moving parts, database back ends, multiple front ends, forums that need editorial supervision, content curation, and teams of volunteers helping isn't going to be a fun spare time activity.

It's a full time job.  Oh, it can be fun, or have fun parts.  I certainly hope that's true for Susan.  It can be incredibly fulfilling to do something like this that has a positive impact on so many lives. But, expecting someone to do this much, for this long, without some form of compensation beyond the odd "Attagirl!" isn't really reasonable.

She deserves to get a living wage.

We're all hiring her to help us by keeping this 24/7 floating support group up and running.  That's why we get subscriptions, and make contributions.  Oh, it may not be an official tax deduction, but come on!  Most of us aren't in a high income situation where we even can do itemized tax deductions that have a net effect.  Instead, we all do it for the spiritual "Attagirl!", "Attaboy!", and "Attathey!"

Good job, well done, and thank you, contributors and subscribers, for helping Susan with what is looking like her life's work!  And thank you, Susan, for giving us a safe place.

I wish we could collectively pay you more!  (Hint, hint!)
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: islandgirl on October 02, 2016, 01:50:44 PM
Well said Michelle! They are many people out there that are just ignorant, angry or just plain small minded. They have no clue what the needs and or interests are in the community. Susan you have done a great service to our community. I know that when I came out, I did not know where to get information or support. It was just fortunate that I came across 'Susan's
Place'!.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: jentay1367 on October 02, 2016, 03:37:39 PM
Quote from: Michelle_P on October 02, 2016, 01:24:41 PM
Some people are so darn dim.

Of course we're paying Susan to keep this running.  What do they think, that Susan is some trust fund baby who just puts in 60 hour weeks for a hobby for the fun of it?  Running a web site with so many moving parts, database back ends, multiple front ends, forums that need editorial supervision, content curation, and teams of volunteers helping isn't going to be a fun spare time activity.

It's a full time job.  Oh, it can be fun, or have fun parts.  I certainly hope that's true for Susan.  It can be incredibly fulfilling to do something like this that has a positive impact on so many lives. But, expecting someone to do this much, for this long, without some form of compensation beyond the odd "Attagirl!" isn't really reasonable.

She deserves to get a living wage.

We're all hiring her to help us by keeping this 24/7 floating support group up and running.  That's why we get subscriptions, and make contributions.  Oh, it may not be an official tax deduction, but come on!  Most of us aren't in a high income situation where we even can do itemized tax deductions that have a net effect.  Instead, we all do it for the spiritual "Attagirl!", "Attaboy!", and "Attathey!"

Good job, well done, and thank you, contributors and subscribers, for helping Susan with what is looking like her life's work!  And thank you, Susan, for giving us a safe place.

I wish we could collectively pay you more!  (Hint, hint!)
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Gosh Michelle, How dare you make so damned much sense. This is the interwebs. Good job Girl! Elucidation is a difficult task. If you have to take up the mantle, your adversary will inevitably beat you with their cunningly slow minded arguments that are the sole property of the hebetude.  I wish Susan would quit entertaining their nonsense with her ethics and caring. It's like feeding the trolls. Those that matter....will carry on and those that don't, will fall by the wayside where they belong. But I am impressed with her altruism and single mindedness of purpose.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: V M on October 02, 2016, 08:11:11 PM
It's your website Susan, how you use your donations is your prerogative

Possibly some folks don't quite understand why this site is called Susan's Place and the years of sacrifice you have endured to keep your site running

Maybe they should learn to appreciate the fact that such a premier website even exists

Many transgender people including myself would have no support and would be totally lost without somewhere to find the support provided by the members and staff here at Susan's Place

Thank you for providing such a place

Hugs

V M
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Sinclair on October 03, 2016, 08:22:06 PM
I don't get why this is even an issue. The website is "Susan's Place." It's clear that Susan is seeking financial support from the info at the top of the page. Do you want to provide financial support? Yes, no, or indifferent, you can still be part of this community. We're all essentially hanging out in Susan's virtual apartment and if you can help pay the bills, that's your choice. There are some in the LGB community that don't like the addition of the "TQ". Frankly, I consider this site a safe place for transgendered, cross dressers, queer, etc. I love this community!  :icon_flower:
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Susan on September 08, 2017, 02:18:38 AM
The Latest...

(https://i.gyazo.com/6deeb640a32b6c1ce10ab7888dbd19a8.png)

It only resulted in them being banned in both of the channels I am regularly on, and I reported their attempt to web site in question.

I have made no attempt to keep the fact that I am trans secret either online or off. So feel free to blab it to the world, it's never gonna bother me.

After all the years making these attempts to get to me, and not one single one working, aren't you getting tired of trying yet? You simply don't have what it takes...
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Cindy on September 08, 2017, 02:31:26 AM
Sounds like a particularly well educated and read person. I'm amazed that they managed to crawl from under their pebble.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: V M on September 08, 2017, 03:06:11 AM
Ugh, I can't believe some of these goons  :P
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: rmaddy on September 08, 2017, 04:19:32 AM
I got a receipt from you via PayPal, and though you pitch for contributions, you have never forced anyone to do so, nor denied access to those who don't.

Nothing to see here.  Rock on.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Laurie on September 08, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
  It is a shame some feel the need to unduly harass others for no apparent reason. I suspect a deep seated unfounded hatred on their immature part. But there is a lot of that every where you look. I'd say more but there is this item we need to live by here called "Terms of Service" and now more than ever I must live by it.

  Though I do not "know" Susan and have only had cursory brushes with her, I have nothing but respect for what she does for this community and her openness in all her dealings concerning this site and it's operation. It is my pleasure to participate in the forums and to help with moderation. I hope I can live up to the fine job the moderators and administrators do for this site. Thank you, Susan for everything you do.

  I freely donate to this site's operations and am thankful that this site continues to operate as it has helped me personally so many times and in so many ways. I have been know to urge donating of my own volition because I hate to see how every month is a struggle to raise the funds that are needed each month to keep the site operational and frequently falling short of the goals. In fact I urge anyone  reading this now to consider donating as it is much needed.

  This harassment is uncalled for and I hope somehow it can be stopped.

Laurie
Global Moderator
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: DawnOday on September 08, 2017, 03:04:03 PM
From: Brangelina Pitt-Jolie
To: "susan@susans.org" <susan@susans.org>
Subject: Reporting you to the IRS
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:49:59 +0000
an honest person who wants to save the rest from your disguesting activities.

So honest you can't even post your own name. Probably would have misspelled it anyway.

I have never been forced to donate. I am asked to and I find the information, and sisterhood on this site is worth the measly amount i donate. I feel my donation is put to better use than the 10% the sheep are willing to give their local church.No Susan does not live in a $10 million mansion. She does not own an amusement park depicting a fairy tale. But if she decided to buy a bag of Frito's with my money, buy an outfit, shoes, medical care it would not matter as she deserves it. I can assure you it's not a fetish, a reason to be perverse, or even any of your business. For I and 1.5 million others it is not a decision we made. but one that was predetermined by medical malpractice. It would be a waste of strength to try and explain it to an ignoramus. Many in this group like myself have, while tainted by something outside our control have been living misgendered and in hiding. In my case over half a century. Susan's Place is where we come to seek the light and she has delivered.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: bethanyz on September 15, 2017, 06:41:27 PM
shakes my head.  it amazes me that people like that exist.  i think what this site does for the transgender community and the people that love them is priceless.  i wish i could afford to donate more, but i will continue to donate.
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Rowena_Ellenweorc on September 15, 2017, 07:11:45 PM
Is it bad that I am just laughing at these idiots?  I mean really, what kind of cowardice is it to hide behind your computer and attack perfectly good people for doing perfectly good things?

Quite frankly, they act like whiney teenagers (no offense to the teenagers on this site) who haven't got their way.  And heaven forbid a teenager not get their way! (Again no offense to the teenagers.  I'm sure this doesn't describe you.) I can't stand people like that and they need their a-- err hindquarters kicked.  Which, btw, I'm fair game for doing. Just point me in the direction of the cyberbullies. I'm really good at getting them to shut up.  *smirk*
Title: Re: The harrassment continues
Post by: Sinclair on September 15, 2017, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: Susan on September 08, 2017, 02:18:38 AM
The Latest...

(https://i.gyazo.com/6deeb640a32b6c1ce10ab7888dbd19a8.png)

It only resulted in them being banned in both of the channels I am regularly on, and I reported their attempt to web site in question.

I have made no attempt to keep the fact that I am trans secret either online or off. So feel free to blab it to the world, it's never gonna bother me.

After all the years making these attempts to get to me, and not one single one working, aren't you getting tired of trying yet? You simply don't have what it takes...

They are just internet trolls. People who in RL -- face to face -- could never be bullies, but feel emboldened by the net to be ->-bleeped-<-s.

I love this place. I feel comfortable and at home here. I thank Susan for providing this "home" for all of us to talk about our journey.