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Title: SRS on the NHS pictures and questions?
Post by: vanessa.oreilly on September 06, 2016, 06:45:56 AM
Post by: vanessa.oreilly on September 06, 2016, 06:45:56 AM
I'm 17, soon to be 18 and i to be referred to the GIC. I am so suprised for the little amount of information provided about the UK surgeons funded by the NHS, for SRS. There are no pictures, techniques or anything. I've heard really bad results, but that's just the bad and i'm sure there is more good as it's surgery not a factory. I'm looking at private SRS in Thailand for around 6,000 pounds by Dr Saran, but i just have some queeries for the UK surgeons.
1. Does anyone have any pictures of the results by a UK doctor?
2. The pictures i have seen of the UK surgeons often leave the Vagina with really fat flabby and loose libs (labia majora?), i know natal vaginas all come differently but i dont want a lump in my udnerwear and i want it to be completelty flat and tight, like the results in thailand, it's a preference. Has anyone had this?
3. The UK surgeons use the penile inversion techinique, is there any on the NHS that use the same as the Thailand surgeons and with the same/ added bonuses like g spot and special glans preservation?
Thank you
1. Does anyone have any pictures of the results by a UK doctor?
2. The pictures i have seen of the UK surgeons often leave the Vagina with really fat flabby and loose libs (labia majora?), i know natal vaginas all come differently but i dont want a lump in my udnerwear and i want it to be completelty flat and tight, like the results in thailand, it's a preference. Has anyone had this?
3. The UK surgeons use the penile inversion techinique, is there any on the NHS that use the same as the Thailand surgeons and with the same/ added bonuses like g spot and special glans preservation?
Thank you
Title: Re: SRS on the NHS pictures and questions?
Post by: FTMDiaries on September 06, 2016, 11:52:18 AM
Post by: FTMDiaries on September 06, 2016, 11:52:18 AM
Hi, and welcome! :)
Hopefully someone from your side of the fence will come along with more relevant information (especially about the dreaded v-word), but perhaps one of the reasons why you haven't yet had any replies is simply this: there isn't a great deal of patient choice in the NHS. With fewer than 10 surgeons performing M2F GRS in the entire country, you don't have a wealth of surgeons to choose from. At least, not if you want it done on the NHS.
This is simply the way the NHS operates (pun intended). They don't generally publish names of surgeons, or photos of results, or details of techniques... in any field of the NHS. That's because we don't have a consumer's market like the one in the US. Perhaps that might explain some of the confusion? If you tend to get info from US-centric websites (like this one), you can easily get the wrong impression about what's possible in the UK. Our system is completely different: Americans often go to Thailand for their surgery because they have to pay for it out of their own pockets and Thai surgeons can do it for a lot less money than they'd have to pay in the States (and they're very skilled, too)... but that's not a problem we have here in the UK.
When you eventually get your referral to an NHS surgeon (which will probably be in a couple of years' time), you'll be able to discuss your preferences with them and they'll do their best to accommodate you. You can also discuss your preferences with your GIC and ask them to refer you to the most appropriate person. Whilst in theory we have a choice of surgeons available to us, in actual fact most of us wind up going to whoever is recommended by our GIC. My GIC recommends Phil Thomas in Brighton; others are available. If you like, you could contact him directly and ask him any questions you might have. If you email his office they will come back to you - and he can also operate privately rather than on the NHS if you don't want to wait. Most surgeons (or at least, their teams) will be happy to answer your questions in advance and they'll be happy to show you examples of their work.
This brings up an important point: please bear in mind that if you're not even with the GIC yet, you're likely to be in for quite a wait before you can get surgery. Most GICs have a waiting list of at least 1 year before your first appointment (some are even longer than that); and after that, most GICs require at least 1 year's RLE under their care - usually including HRT - before they'll refer you for genital surgery. So we're talking (probably) something like 2 years before you can get genital surgery... and with old surgeons retiring & new surgeons being trained, who knows what'll be available in 2 years' time?
You might also want to post your questions in the Male to Female forum - here's a link (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,51.0.html) - where you might get a better response.
Hopefully someone from your side of the fence will come along with more relevant information (especially about the dreaded v-word), but perhaps one of the reasons why you haven't yet had any replies is simply this: there isn't a great deal of patient choice in the NHS. With fewer than 10 surgeons performing M2F GRS in the entire country, you don't have a wealth of surgeons to choose from. At least, not if you want it done on the NHS.
This is simply the way the NHS operates (pun intended). They don't generally publish names of surgeons, or photos of results, or details of techniques... in any field of the NHS. That's because we don't have a consumer's market like the one in the US. Perhaps that might explain some of the confusion? If you tend to get info from US-centric websites (like this one), you can easily get the wrong impression about what's possible in the UK. Our system is completely different: Americans often go to Thailand for their surgery because they have to pay for it out of their own pockets and Thai surgeons can do it for a lot less money than they'd have to pay in the States (and they're very skilled, too)... but that's not a problem we have here in the UK.
When you eventually get your referral to an NHS surgeon (which will probably be in a couple of years' time), you'll be able to discuss your preferences with them and they'll do their best to accommodate you. You can also discuss your preferences with your GIC and ask them to refer you to the most appropriate person. Whilst in theory we have a choice of surgeons available to us, in actual fact most of us wind up going to whoever is recommended by our GIC. My GIC recommends Phil Thomas in Brighton; others are available. If you like, you could contact him directly and ask him any questions you might have. If you email his office they will come back to you - and he can also operate privately rather than on the NHS if you don't want to wait. Most surgeons (or at least, their teams) will be happy to answer your questions in advance and they'll be happy to show you examples of their work.
This brings up an important point: please bear in mind that if you're not even with the GIC yet, you're likely to be in for quite a wait before you can get surgery. Most GICs have a waiting list of at least 1 year before your first appointment (some are even longer than that); and after that, most GICs require at least 1 year's RLE under their care - usually including HRT - before they'll refer you for genital surgery. So we're talking (probably) something like 2 years before you can get genital surgery... and with old surgeons retiring & new surgeons being trained, who knows what'll be available in 2 years' time?
You might also want to post your questions in the Male to Female forum - here's a link (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,51.0.html) - where you might get a better response.
Title: Re: SRS on the NHS pictures and questions?
Post by: Dena on September 06, 2016, 04:42:56 PM
Post by: Dena on September 06, 2016, 04:42:56 PM
Welcome to Susan's Place. I don't know much about the medical system in the UK but in a discussion with a MTF who is a medical student, she said there were two top revision surgeons on her list. One is within 30 miles of me and the other is located in the UK so I am sure that quality work is available to you. I am going to move this thread to GCS where you will be more likely to receive responses. If there is anything I can help you with, let me know.
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Title: Re: SRS on the NHS pictures and questions?
Post by: Willowicious on October 02, 2016, 04:41:10 AM
Post by: Willowicious on October 02, 2016, 04:41:10 AM
Following/ bumping as I'd quite like to know too ^_^